Mikal

No. 

I think the best way to frame this is we each present a direction for the site and the most desired wins. Because other wise it will be hard to draw a line on what entails “strict” moderation. 

Unblock me and I’ll send it and we can work on the details. 

Would essentially be open voting. 

If you lobby you get a dq 

Argue in the spirit of the topic and no semantics 

Resolved : DART would benefit more from lax moderation compared to stricter moderation. 

Amazing 

I have unblocked you.  Nothing to do with either one of us. Just the best direction for the sight. We can work on framing it 

Sure but it’s also common sense 

I either suck at explaining my thought process or savant didn’t read what I posted at all. 

Did the last post make sense to you or did I not explain it properly 

I don’t think you read my post very wel 

I said the first post seemed town like heavy town and the follow up posts seemed scummy. Her response to the wagon seems like general annoyance and not like a “I got caught annoyance” but a “this shit happens every game annoyance”

We were doing theatre in our scum game but she was pretty laid back and not aggressive toward anyone other than me mostly. Even in chat her default personality is and was “don’t tell me I can’t do this, I’ll do it”. She was annoyed at I had to bus her and almost wanted to 1v1 me as scum as a pride thing. Her doing this to everyone who is reading her pings me as annoyance and Genuine frustration 

So town to me is 

Owen 

Her 

Wylted - I think Connor actually answering this threw me a bit because he heavily implied he would stay out of the game unless it was about roles in the game. This has almost mod locked wylted to me but I could be wrong and overthinking this 

That being said I don’t think scum is strictly just earth and supa 

so I think one of my other town reads are wrong. Riz reverse engineering the hard town reads and working backwards from that. There is also free pressure on her now. If I were going in order between the 3 of you. 

It’s prob 

Pie 

Casey 

You

Town to least 

Updated town 

Wylted 

Owen 

Banana 

Poe (1 scum)

Pie

Savant 

Casey

Earth and Super. Possibly the other here. 

One of the people on the banana train is prob scum. 

I think it’s possible be 1 there and an inactive. 

Which makes me think im wrong on one of my reads 

I’m pretty town locked on Owen 

Which makes me think 1 is between savant, pie, and Casey 

Town reads are on her *

Which bothers me because most of my town reads on her. 

If I was mafia with her, we’d be distancing and I would not be defending her. I just think she is an easy target because she’s new and people are fabricating reads a bit. 

I think we are up the wrong tree with Anna. I’m telling you it feels different than when I was mafia with her. 

Would you answer a question about a hypothetical role that did not exist 

This makes me think wylted is town locked. 

I’m okay with it ending the DP. It would effectively be the same as a mislynch. Luna said he would not confirm anything in signups I believe. 

Can you confirm a role would work this way 

Town Pile 

Casey 

Pie 

Anna 

Owen

Null 

Rest 

Scum pile 

Wylted. 

Wylted would absolutely offer to kill himself as scum. Any good scum player would. Because you are banking on someone town reading that and no follow through. I don’t think in my 10 years of playing with Connor, I ever recall him making a role that results on a mod kill other than once and it was a you can’t type in the dayphase role. 

The voting early and killing yourself makes no sense. He would have the vote not count and if anything would go as far to make it scum sided to show affiliation and role confirmation don’t coordinate. I may be barking up the wrong tree but I do not buy the mod kill portion 

Sorry bro ski. Nothing you are doing wrong I just don’t believe the mod kill part 

Unvote 

It’s odd I behavior read wylted. I don’t buy the mod kill portion of his pm at all. Luna would not design a game that way. 

Just curious if he’s bullshitting. Accomplishes the same thing and if he’s not dead. You really press 

Are you okay with having Wylted use his vote to test this 

Yeah it’s hard for me to tell. In our game you enjoyed some of the arguing or sparring but that could be true for town you or scum you. But I think this is town because it came off as if you are offended you are being scum read vs just attacking to attack 

Town reading Anna more granted its very hard to tell. But feel like omgus from Her is prob a town tell 

Im Okay with testing wylted claim. I don’t buy the mod kill part. I think it would just not count. I say make him vote. 

Reiterating this is not meant to bully you or attack you or whatever you think. With David taking over, I think it’s a good Topic to explore and highlight as both directions are the logical paths. I’m a huge proponent for free speech and you are for making things tighter. So let’s touch gloves and box it out and have the mods boost it so everyone can read and form an opinion. 

We can frame it over which direction is best for the site as it’s not about your character. Judges or open voting doesn’t matter to me. If it’s open , we will put in a clause that you can’t message anyone about it or voting or it’s a ff and we can have the mods highlight or vision. 

I figured and maybe im wrong this has been tested? I’m not going to lie, I am not reading back much and going off memory cus work. But have we tested this to confirm he is at least role confirmed. If so, again okay with leaving it alone 

We have a pretty hard soft claim 

And a full claim 

Going for much more (we need one more and I’d rather it be someone who is not typically active). Is where I want to stop 

I’m not sure I do either but I’m okay with leaving it for now and going to earth. 

Posted on the other thread. Would you do a debate over the best direction for the site 

RM

Would you do a debate over the best direction for site?

Inin

No I think her style of posting and how she attacked you is similar to her scum game with me. It’s a weak read but I think the posting style and direct attack is meant to deflect. 

The first post, again is towny. It’s just the stuff after seems odd and I can’t put my finger on exactly why other than it feels similar 

We largely have the same block other than Owen

Except for ultra. I just hard see him as town 

I don’t disagree with this 

Anna is very good at mimicking town behavior and I feel like is consistent with her metas. She is very active in mafia PMS and plans pretty well. I think a very underated player. 

I am getting scum vibes from most of her posts other than the first one. The first seemed pretty town and genuinely surprised her character had autism. It was the way she laid out. Like oh yeah I just did some looking and mine does it. Just felt innocent but all the posts after that feel off 

It’s not animals rights then. It’s autism Themed. 

Which makes sense with the a typical thing 

Town block 

Savant 

Anna

Pie 

Casey 

No I def called it a reaction test. I acknowledged that. I’m just saying it was not a real reaction test. No one would believe that and react to it lol. Was meant to just get me town read and spam with fluff a bit 

Yep same name granted max had banned him for a majority of the life of ddo because he was 10x worse there. 

Who’s that