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I don’t think I’m going to get my way but again 

Wf 
Ultra 
Rm
Luna 
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@Ultracrepidarian
Need to read this back but if you just openly claimed, I think that’s worse than pressure claim. Granted I do see the role as a sop claim. Didn’t see you make that case and still don’t think super is in the game with hated 
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Luna wf 
Ultra wf 
Rm wf 


I buy ultra wf more than rm wf 
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@Ultracrepidarian
No substance is fine. Just seems borrowed. 


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@Lunatic
I don’t fully disagree but if I read ultra harder I’d be throwing not going him first. RM is at the top of my list and don’t want to reward him for playing poorly but I feel like ultra is scum and someone gave him that claim. It was RMs pressure that made him claim if I recall so I think it’s either or. I’d rather go home dp1 and just Roll the dice on whether rm can confirm himself dp2 like he said. 
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@Ultracrepidarian
I feel like you just copy pasted Casey’s argument 

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Like I said I don’t want to mod pyche to hard but his pm structure is also fundamentally diff than mine 
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@Lunatic
I don’t see this as risky tbh. I think it’s extremely safe and surprised more people aren’t questioning it. 
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I know I’m not getting WF but he’s my pick 

I’d rather do ultra next 

In a perfect world rm needs to hammer ultra 
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Current order for me is 

WF
Ultra 
RM
Luna 



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@Lunatic
I’m still okay with RM. But I can’t shake he’s just being dumb. 


Eveyrthing ultra has said just hits me wrong. 
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@Lunatic
I agree with this to an extent but it’s why I read it as scummy.  RM is also opportunistic but it’s also a way for someone to steer it away from Ultra while saying scum would want to kill him cus if he is super saint. He takes someone with him. 

I think you are good enough to see this and going for RM would be better for you if you are scum. 
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the above makes me scum read him more. I think WF typed up a fake claim for him 

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My gut is telling me it’s wf and ultra 
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You're Joan of Arc. You defied gender norms and led an army and cross dressed. You were made Patron Saint of France. So, you're the Super saint.


I don’t want to lean to much into mod pyche but there is a lot of very noticeable and Distinct differences with this and mine. 
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I’m going to say his pm Structure does not match mine at all 
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In a perfect world we need RM to hammer ultra and I think we get scum one way or the other. 
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I also want to point out this is the first game I’ve been in that ultra has not been replaced or actually tried in. His normally activist is absent or town. 
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@Casey_Risk
This is going to sound harsh. I just think RM is that bad of a player and thinks he’s that good that he will Mentally justify whatever gambit he’s trying 
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Also could be Luna wf. Mainly looking slightly at Luna because he is really wanting to push the rm lynch so hard 
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@Casey_Risk
No I think is likely one or the other with wf 
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I’m stuck on WF but looking for second scum 

Sitting on 

Luna 
rm
Ultra 


Luna just pings me behaviorally odd as some of his pushes seem Opportunistic.

Rm- town or not. He’s anti town town to keep around and is a mislynch waiting to happen.  His behavior is totally spastic

Ultra - don’t buy anything about his claim or role.  
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There is no world where you take a person who said. I hope men die from Covid and compare it to Joan as far as being brave lmao 
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I don’t buy the argument that he just would not claim that. Super saint is vague and not often used and even he prefaced it by saying it’s scummy and the fact Joan is likely not to be in the game makes it more likely he won’t get cced. You can spin anyone as a feminist if you try hard enough.  Don’t see a split with that and my character and don’t see a hated and a super saint in the same game without some type of major balance. 
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RM - can we bam savant and Michael for refusing to claim dp1  No one has the balls to ban them. Does the same thing but says it’s different because it makes sense to him and only him 
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@Savant
I saw it after I posted. I wanted to compare prompts to see if he asked it to explain why she isn’t one. 
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God damnit 
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Want to compare something


Prompt - was Joan of adc a feminist. 

Joan of Arc is often viewed today as a feminist icon, but calling her a feminist in the modern sense can be misleading. Here’s why — and what we can say:

⚖️ Historically Accurate View
Context matters: Joan lived in 15th-century France (1412–1431), a deeply patriarchal society with rigid gender roles. The concept of feminism as we know it didn’t exist.
Religious motivation: Joan saw herself as acting under divine guidance, not as a challenge to male authority or in pursuit of gender equality.
Support of monarchy: She wasn’t advocating for systemic change or women’s rights, but rather fighting to restore Charles VII to the French throne during the Hundred Years' War.
🛡️ Why She's Seen as a Feminist Icon Today
Military leadership: She wore male armor and led troops in battle — unheard of for a woman of her time.
Defied gender norms: Her cross-dressing and refusal to adhere to traditional female roles were revolutionary gestures, even if unintentional.
Martyrdom and legacy: She was executed in part for defying gender roles (heresy charges included wearing men’s clothes), and later canonized as a saint.
✅ Conclusion
Joan of Arc wasn't a feminist in intention, but she is celebrated as a proto-feminist symbol because her actions challenged gender expectations. Modern feminism often looks to her as proof that women have always resisted limits placed on them — even if they didn't call it that at the time.

Would you like a quote from Joan or her trial to illustrate her views in her own words?

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@Ultracrepidarian
Why o think focusing on the split is useless. Way to broad and anyone could be a feminist if you shift it that way. 
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I think RM WF 
Or Luna WF

Moar plausible now 
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Savant has told me I can’t explain my thoughts more. Read back for reference if needed. If I die. It’s likely also that and because I’m town read. vote is prob not moving. 
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@Lunatic
I’m not allowed to go into detail but I can’t reset What I saw lol. So vote is staying there. 
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I’ll drop it but I’m using that as a pretense for the vote. Can’t pretend I didn’t see it 
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I don’t think anyone fears me.  Nor should they. Just been around for 12 years and friends with everyone. 
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I can’t unsee it now. He’s one of the only people shit don’t perma set hide. So I’ve had his chat open on my phone and Computer and it’s constantly closing online and offline
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I don’t think I’m coming odd whiteflame. Been literally counting everytime he comes active. 
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Actually I think scum is whiteflame. He’s pretty active on discord for the past 2 hours and going off and on. Assuming checking messages for mafia. I was waiting to see if this changes but it’s been constant all day and he’s not posting. Has been roughly active around 25 times the past 2 hours and not engaging here. He only uses discord for mod chat or this. And tends to
Use it more on mafia. It was a very similar activity pattern to when he was modding when Luna and I were scum

Unvote 
VTL whiteflame
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You have actively said you were lying and said there is no reason to never not claim your full role at l1. I can go pull posts but you were actively asking for me to be blacklisted for saying this is what I would do if pressured. I would not do it on this way ever lol. It’s just a bit hypocritical is all 
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You were literally asking for savant and I to be blacklisted over this last game. Just claim man 
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Mason isn’t Dp2 confirmable if they role block you. Low-key dying. 
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I’m good with killing him. RM last chance, what is your actual role. If not I think you are hammering ultra. 

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Even as town. It’s anti utility this point. If he’s vig, he’s prob going to get mislynched as scum for how he’s playing. He softed pgo and innocent child this far  and none of these fit any of that. Mason would be dp2 confirmable. Pgo is not confirmable at all. 
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Yeah he has to Die. This is dumb lol 
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Meaning if he’s alive dp3 we yeet him then. I missed if he said he was lying tbh 
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@Lunatic
I’m not falling for it. I think he’s floundering but if he’s lying. Im happy to leave it alone for now. I still don’t buy ultra as town. 
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Agreeing with Mharm. After that last exchange I feel werid about Luna Wylted and Ultra. 

Prob one scum there. 


RM has to be confirmed or he dies. I’m good with leaving him alone under the context of he is lying. I I auto kill 
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I largely get the feeling is floundering as scum. Be heavily implied he was innocent child at the start, then pgo, then back to innocent child. Pgo would make 0 sense if all this anti town utility is actually real and if he’s not confined on dp3 we kill him. By confirm I mean innocent child. Don’t care what he claims. If it’s not that he dies 
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RM if you are lying , I suggest you claim honestly. If you are anything else but innocent child, you are throwing. Once chance to be honest 
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RM I will leave you alive but if you don’t show up as innocent child, I’m death tunneling you. 
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Unvote 

Anyone pushing him now is sus. He could be scum but don’t matter. If hea. It confirmed dp3 we auto kill. Regardless of his role 

He could come out as cop and we kill him. If he’s innocent child , we leave him alive. 
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