Mikal

The fact that he won’t confirm it when asked and said he won’t answer. When he confirms he did not alter that I’ll leave you alone and go for Casey 

The only reason I’m giving Wylted any town cred is because he said they don’t exist in signups and outright typed it and people linked it to me 

Past that Wylted has a custom role 

Was put in a pm With pie when earth was not even active or around. He would magically have to see and respond within 5 mins when it’s more likely they were already in a discord pm. I checked his status when they claimed this 

The only thing in Wylteds favor is he claimed cop and mason off the right without a cc. Which is amazing town points if there are no fake claims and means nothing if there are 

So yes my read on him depends on the mods answer 

It’s not holding our hands. It changes the game dynamic. If he said there are no fake claims , role or character. It completely alters how you view someone willing to early claim 

You operate under his word. None where given and it’s massive town cred 

Or you don’t and it means nothing because fake claims exist. 

If you post that info and change it without saying. He’s that is definitely bastard modding 

I’ll drop it but I want an answer 

I think rm or Wylted has a fake claim and that’s why he won’t publicly acknowledge that the rules are the same as in the op 

When I asked him did he give fake claims 

Actually I won’t screen shot and ruin the game. I’ll copy paste what he said. Not shit about my role 

I’m not chilling on shit. 

He said in the op he did not do it and I’m making assumptions off that. If he changes it without saying that is bastard modding and I actually will mod kill myself to ss the answer he gave me. 

You don’t say you aren’t doing something them revert. Cus we are all operating on their are no fake claims 

And is 1x which is why I buy rm more than Wylted. 

It’s not worded as 1x. Worded as once per game 

I know I loled. 

I think it’s slightly diff cus I get all results someone has gotten and thematically it makes sense 

Did you fucking give fake claims. I’m giving you two hours or im screenshotting the response you gave me. 

This is bastard modding 

I think it’s you or RM. but I want to verify he gave fake claims first as that would confirm my thoughts. 

That’s what I meant by balance. 

I hinted at this and said I can see how your role makes sense dp1 as it balances you adding mafia to a pm. I just don’t think earth added you both to a pl within 5 mins if you claiming. Earth can’t keep track of his own vote count or respond to basic questions. I don’t think he instantly made and stuck you both in a discord chat 

Once during the game target a dead player and get all mod information that was given. 

It’s called forensic but yes. 

Serena makes more sense as town and wylted was way to willing to claim his character off the rip. 

My assumption is earth gave out game info and we should all be pressuring him to answer if the changed this because it’s outright bastard modding if he did. 

Always I knew what Casey’s character was dp1. It’s why I said bite me. Cus vampire. 

Target a dead olayer and learn all the results they have gotten. 

Thought it made sense to balance Your role. Hinted at this last day phase. Cus if you picked scum to add I could verify the results etc but the more I think about the more I just think you are bullshitting. Especially how fast the pm thing happened after your claimed. Earth was not even online around that time 

I don’t buy it 

I lost last game for not trusting my gut

I am kinda ignoring RM. Spent all last day phase saying he is amazing and death tunneled a vanilla. I think he’s likely to be town over Wylted as I don’t seem scum doing that. Wylted is also doing what he did in my scum game. Basically not playing and having pie play for him 

But the fact it’s one of us three (if rm is town) means fake claims were given and I want an answer from earth. 

This is now bastard missing. You said in the OP you did not give fake claims or roles and it’s 7/2. We are asking you to confirm that did not change. 

Stop being a bitch and answer 

Elenwen forensic 

Theme is not cut and dry. Was saying this last dp but think it’s possible to solve. My character works with thalamor in the game and is not to friendly with the main protagonist. It’s either everyone vs Alduin (doubt to basic) or likely something to do with the empire. 

I think it still could be Wylted and Pie 

Reason I kept sussing it a bit last day phase was a forensic, a dreamer, and a mason cop just seemed busted. 

Thought about this a lot last night and even how fast they got added to a pm during mid conversation is not earth like. He’s never on and like almost as soon as Wylted claimed pie said he was added to a pm with Wylted and I don’t see earthy responding or doing it that quickly. Plus it would have to be in discord 

Earth also refuses to directly answer me about whether fake claims or roles were given said he would abstain. Which makes it likely that one of the two who claimed early could be fake if he went back on this 

Dope 

Earth told me he could not confirm if he gave fake claims. He would abstain. That’s very important. 

Can we talk?

Please confirm this total. I think you may be wrong 

Scum

Assuming you are on a team and can blow up and they know it. 

That town is dumb for policy lynching. 

But you not self voting and saying like 3 diff claims. Right or wrong it’s utility now. If you are town you are a mislynch. If you are scum, it’s good for town 

Sucks but kinda has to be done now 

In principle I agree with him but so much chaos that it’s now a net negative and I don’t know if We’d believe him as a power role. 

It suck’s but that last exchange just kinda forces us to to utility lynch. 

I’m all for not claiming but I’d just vote myself in his position to prove a point. It is now low-key kinda scummy. I’m good with ending it. 

Unvote 

I’ll vote. 

You hammer 

Thoughts ?

Off theory Casey is watching the game. Sees RM unvote votes at that point and now it forces town to eat a bomb ?

If we lynch him and he is a bomb. Low-key could be Casey. Have a lot to process 

Casey 

It’s 4/5 I think 

I think he’s right 4/5

It’s twilight.  Were you actually town doc?

Okay he actually was prob scum 

Have Luna hammer. 

Could be hunter mafia , bomb , anything. Also could be lynch proof mafia. 

Was waiting to see when Luna was around if a fake claim would pop up. Luna knows this theme (he’s played the game)  and is good at building those. 

Also why I think he’s willing to go along with the fake claim. Not saying he’s scum but was actually curious if he folded when they were online at the same time 

Needs to self hammer 

no 

Could be baiting as bomb 

The fact he just folded is weird as shit 

Wanted to see when he actually gave a justification because Luna actually was afk all weekend and coudnt post. 

Was curious if he would throw something out when Luna started actively posting and they both were around at the same time 

Okay goal accomplished. 

If savant is scum. Luna is his partner 

Just fake claim. Easier solution and then it’s their fault if they keep doing it 

I made the same case when it happened to me and trolled them till I got bored. Policing how people play is dumb. 

I do agree if someone is behaving anti town. You just kill them and move on. 

He thinks it’s anti town 

I don’t 

It’s all perception 

I agree with your points. 

He won’t lol 

Luna isn’t bluffing. He will hammer you cus he’s always got this policy lynch mindset. He did it to me for like 3 months and we both were stubborn and refused to stop. 

I’d kill him or target him and vice versa. People get invested in the spirit of the game or teaching people a lesson type shi. Granted I don’t disagree with what you are doing, others will etc 

He’s saying spirit of the game shit. Which he believes goes against your win con, which I fully disagree with. People lie all the time under pressure or just refuse to cooperate and it’s no diff than just saying you aren’t claiming because it hurts town. I can’t tell you how many times people have made up fake roles, fake characters, pretended they can’t type, blah blah to avoid claiming under pressure. It’s all the same shit. 

It’s all game theory but whether people lie, claim, don’t claim, it’s all a moving bar.