Mikal

Basically he confirmed a scum on accident and was saying don’t think to hard about mod pych etc. seems very similar. 

Trying not to focus on this that much cus it can either win a game against the spirit of it or just go down the wrong path entirely. Just was notating when he has did this in the past. The game was in jeopardy 

A mod doesn’t jump in and give game advice unless the game is about to end. He lets it play out naturally. The last time he did this was got mafia live where he had someones role at the bottom of another role  pm and tried to correct it mid game. At least the last time I played with him that he did it. 

He jumped in clarifying some shit. I forget where and told us not to get bogged down on the 8/9 thing. 

I have a way more important reason to sus him that I can’t say get either and it’s annoying -.-  

I think there is a high chance results are not perfect this game almost 100 percent more so if he flips town. Which is also why I don’t buy it 

Luna just didn’t let the cc happen and resolve itself. He felt compelled to jump in which means it was about to fuck up the game in his mind. 

I agree with which is why I said all this after behavior. This is additive to that and turned into all that. But I am in full agreement with you. I think wylted just bit the bullet 

With him being in bottom 3 and also serving to give validity to what Ana is saying. It just makes sense to Poe 

I will have a fuck ton of Poe tomorrow or I’ll be dead and scum are fucked. 

Am I making sense to you? Or am I crazy 

I feel like I’m still retarted.  You could have claimed the character and your role is JOAT or your role is not what you are saying it is. 

Your role and you admitting that a fake role claim like that would be bastard is exactly why I don’t think it’s your role. Or at least your role if you were town 

But yea a large part of this is the utility aspect and we can poe like crazy tomorrow if your claim about Anna is true. So I don’t think we go wrong cus I think you two are still the best. You make the most sense behaviorly and everything I’m saying about the role and character claims makes perfect sense to me but maybe I’m poorly explaining it 

I’m lost as to how I’m not making sense and I’m wondering if this is scum deflecting and if someone else reads this back and tells me I’m retarted. I’ll concede and reconsider but this makes perfect sense in my head 

Or maybe you are both scum and you wanted to set her up.

I think it’s way more likely it’s town scum 

Or you both are town but using you as utility gets rid of a possible mislynch later, gets rid of one of my strongest scum read , gives us info on her and if she is scum. We will know tomorrow 

If you are worried about being lynched and trying to come up with a role. It’s not about town reading her. It’s about trying to validate yourself as a role and push a lynch on Mharm because he was also in the bottom 3 

Which you did if I recall. 

All this is assuming the claims are split which is r need Luna to confirm. 

I don’t think wylted used either. Why would he twist a fake role claim into whatever the fuck he said lol 

I think if he used either. The claim would have made more sense. 

So I think you or earth used the fake character claim 

The role claim Could have been JOAT and you tied it with that to make it work or JOAT is your role and you wanted to force it to work. 

I think with all the items there is likely some way to counter them which a JOAT makes sense for. I think you prob literally are called JOAT and just twisted your claim aroind it lol 

As for why not use Casey 

I have no idea. Maybe it was obvious to claim that. It’s possible you are town and banana is using it. in some fucked up dimension it’s possible you both are scum and she used it and you are using the character. 

To much shit going in to know for sure. I just know I have. It liked your behavior and when I called you out you started trying a lot harder. Was almost like you conceded cus you were going down then I made you feel bad for not trying. 

And JOAT makes sense as scum to counter all the items that are floating around 

Yes 

I can Poe most of the others tonight and have a backup plan for if I’m targeted 

It will make sense tomorrow 

I think it’s wf or Anna and wf just gives us a solid pool. If it’s Ana it will be glaring obvious tomorrow 

What no….. I’m saying as scum you just watched her claim she went to savant and claimed a role to match that. I hope I’m making more sense than this to others. If not I really need to evaluate how I am saying things. 

No im not saying that last part as all and it’s probably because I’m on my phone 

I’m saying I do think wylted used anything 

So I think it’s plausible the character claim is you or earth and you are more likely. I think you could be a JOAT as scum to balance the items that are all over the game and twisted the JOAT to match the fake character claim 

If there is a role claim, it’s very hard to tell if it’s been used or not. 

Again going off his wording and will adjust this thought If there is just one fake claim but don’t see why he would seperate those two sentences if not. He would just say scum got a fake claim 

I explained why I think you over Ana below that. 

I hate not having a computer near me I can log on to sometime cus trying to explain logic on a small iPhone is awful lol 

I need to wait to hear from Luna but the way I interpret that text is two separate claims or he would have just said fake claim. 

But if he says these are two separate claims, I don’t know how income off you. For utility and claiming to verify banana almost right after she said her night action 

Yes I’m glad you see the utility though. On some off chance you are telling the truth and the game is wonky. You flipping town confirms what banana did. And if savant didn’t have something happen to him, it puts a lot of cred toward her being town.

Lets say you flip town , it’s likely she is town and we stop 2 milsynches. Where as if we lynch her and she flips town , assuming you are town, you still prob get lynched. We get two milsynchs or you are left alive as a milsynch. 

Lynching you confirms her statements and we can stop a potential mislynch. Both of you are everyones top scum reads. 

I think it’s likely you both are town

And it’s way more likely that it’s scum town 

And after tonight I will have a very hard Poe pool so I’m not worried about Ana 

If you are saying you would not claim that because it’s cced by the mod himself are you saying Luna js lying or bad at game design if that is your actual role?

If you think or agree the mod is cc’ing you. 

Why would he balance a game that way after saying both teams are not that powerful (I’m going off this from memory. I don’t remember seeing it but I remember someone saying it. Correct me if I’m wrong). He’s giving items, you have items, I have an item, other people could have items. Mafia would have to have somrthing to counter that. 

JOAT makes sense if it’s a scum role to counter some of the items. What I’m saying is you could possibly be claiming your actual role and used the fake character claim. Saying that hasn’t been used is even more wild. Everyone has claimed lol and wylted claimed a bunch of stupid shit. I think it’s likely you or earth that used it and it makes more sense with you 

  

@luna - is there a split with this. I’m reading this as they are different claims. Can you confirm if this is one fake claim or a fake claim for each 

@whiteflame - the way I interpret this is you used the character claim and had to come up with a role that made sense. So yeah JOAT again wildly after last game is wild. But he is giving out items, you get three items, I have an item, and didn’t he also say the game is unpowered overall?

I don’t buy the JOAT. Nor do I like your behavior 

If you flip scum then it tells us if the fake claim was used. If you flip town , it validates what banana said and you likely to be left alive regardless because everyone is scum reading you 

you are a utility lynch that has a high chance of flipping scum

We can’t even get Austin to vote moozer to confirm him lol. The game is largely inactive 

Havnt played with her enough to know what she does. It did go to the week. May have a job. I was struggling yesterday to lol. She was active over most of the weekend ?

Austin and moozer are also very in active. Even earth. Trying to chop it up to work week and not read into it with anyone 

That’s my point. I can narrow down shit and I just do buy the claim. Luna said the game could be swingy but it want broke. So a JOAT with this many items in the game. I just don’t buy it. Not to mention all the behavior stuff. 

If hes scum, Ana is prob town and because he just literally copied a role to match what she said 

If he’s town , then it at least verified she is telling the truth. 

I am not worried about Ana. If she’s scum it will a abundantly obvious tomorrow 

I am going to go along with the group but I much prefer whiteflame. 

The initial ima vote myself and rage 

Then backtracking on it after he was called out 

He has a cop on top of other cops that were given (I have a reason to be sus of this. I have an item) 

And he saw Ana visit you. So if he is town, you didn’t die, and you didn’t have something interfere with your action , it verifies her 

He’s more scummy so a better lynch and if he happens to flip town it gives credence to her saying she went to to you. 

Bottom 2 won’t matter as long as I am 1. But other 2 I am comfortable with. 

Lack of activity now. Friday it ends so we have today and tomorrow to narrow down who the target is and vote 

I vote for 

That is fine. 

Results always vary anyway but I think we can use them for Poe. can’t promise there isnt shit that fucks with them 

But I can promise I am the safest person to have it and I can justify that with no doubt. 

But depending on certain things. There is very good chance of a solve. 

If he wants it he can have it. I’m not going to try and argue with pie. He’s to stubborn and it’s annoying. I’ve softed a shit ton to him already 

And there is no world where I’m lying and it makes sense.  It’s dp2 and we got scum dp1. I can tell you with 10000 percent certainty. That item is safe with me and I know how to solve the game assuming mafia don’t have a werid role which I doubt they do for balance. 

Yes. I can’t promise with certainty it works because roles always exist that alter it but I at a bare minimum can promise you I am 100 percent the safest person to have that item. 

With a very high chance I can narrow down the game

With it outside of fuckery. Assuming i don’t get yeeted which I have a plan for 

I’m going to stop begging for it and yes I’m asking you to blindly trust me because I can Poe the game down and explain why I’m asking for it. If don’t make sense tomorrow you can kill me. I would not be saying this as scum because I’m offering myself up tomorrow 

I’ve all bit spoken to pie in Spanish at this point. He should be able to decipher what I’m saying and why I’m asking. 

Again when I claim tomorrow it will make sense 

There is a very clear path of claims and logic that can all validate each other and I’m the safest person to have that item.

You can have it if you insist I’m just telling you I can solve the game and if I don’t bring back consistent logic tomorrow auto kill me. That would not be good for town for other reasons but I understand if it happens. I would not be bullshiting a big suggestion if I didn’t have a good idea this early as scum. 

I am telling you shit without openly saying it. Lock in and think. 

Moozer I have a reason for that I’ll say tomorrow 

And I like wf less than ana but regardless of his flip flip we get info 

Most of this will make sense tomorrow but I can Poe this down I’m pretty sure. 

And if not I have a backup plan that you will notice if I die. 

We can kill wf and verify Austin 

I can’t say it until tomorrow because I don’t want to get fucked over but I will say a premise of this is I want Austin to use his role to end the dp on wf 

I dont know why I’m trying to defend myself to Mharm but it’s obvious. 

If someone gets vanilled. I just get auto killed but I’ve worked somrthing up. My head is so fat 

I’m pretty sure I have a solve. Or at least it gets us 90 percent of the way there and yes if I ever use it. You know I’m scum. 

Oh dear god shut up And deal with me tomorrow if I’m lying. We hit scum on dp1. If Im scum and use it, it’s glaring fucking obvious you dipshit 

Like I’m actually near positive this is over lmao. 

I think I have a game solve 

Promise. 

Trust me. I want it and if I’m not dead tomorrow ill

Full claim and you will get why I asked. 

I’m okay with this