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Mikal

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@Speedrace
I'm not confirmed scum you doofus, that profile, claim, and everything up to this point was a reaction test to see how people would react.


luna is town 
and gp is town

I wanted to see who would jump on the wagon first if I claimed something off drafters list. I would be saying this from the elmin profile but I logged out and forgot the password to log back into it lol

Wanted to see how people reacted to a new player and gauge reads off that

im hard vanilla , drafter prob didnt randomize. Its also why I buy luna. Drafter maybe still mad at him and wanted to fuck with him
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We - pick

So the recruiter just started participating again 

Interesting how this will play out 




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Riddle Mafia - Day Phase 2
Back to deactivating my account again 

Someone tell ragnar to ban me again again 

@supa





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@SirAnonymous
Cheers. 
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Riddle Mafia - Day Phase 2
I will flip town 

Magic is likely scum 


Ty for getting me out of this hell hole 

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@SirAnonymous
I need to die by poe, and don't feel like talking in circles anymore. 

I didn't want to play this before I joined. Now regret it. 

Use me for poe 

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Riddle Mafia - Day Phase 2
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@Danielle
How can I mod kill myself without pissing you off ?
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Riddle Mafia - Day Phase 2
I always have to do a mafia game a year to realize why this site is dead. 

Will stay on mafia scum 
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@Lunatic
Lynch away. 

Vtl mikal

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@Lunatic
Bro the original read was not contrived for ffs 

You basically have 2 diff things town confirming you. When you only had 1 before (the mod riddle. Which I didn't actually buy fully until I re read the dp when I was doing the isos)

What you are saying now is someone else can confirm you. 

So yes either you tie hands with your scum partner to the end of the game. In which case the riddle was wrong, and the vig kill was to farm cred. This is still possible but unlikely. It's another feature that is making me concede my read on you. I can't just keep pushing if there is thing after thing saying you are town. If you are scum at this point, the game is probably over. 

I legit don't mind being lynched. Shit stresses me to much 

If you want to lynch me for poe , I'm perfectly fine with it. Didn't even want to play this. Played because you asked 


Perfectly fine with going back to not playing again lmao 

Or you listen to me and have the dude target me. Then I'm alive basically to the end of the game as a confirmed townie that forces mafia to waste a nk if they want to kill (and I'll still be around )

If you want to lynch me that's on you 


Keep tapping distos. 




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@Lunatic
If I'm lying about being town at the end of this game. I'll pen roulette my gear and you can copy paste this 
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@Lunatic
How am I suppose to believe.

Someone in the game can confirm you 


If you are scum , it's either your partner who will or no one will. If no one will, you get lynched.  

This would either lock you and your partner together for the rest of the game 

Or you are basically confirmed. 

The only way you pull this off as scum is bullshit now and name your partner as the next recruit target

If that happens the game is already over if your scum. Mixed with riddle shit and the vig , you would have literally beyond town confirmed yourself. 

So based off what you are saying , I have to buy it 



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@Lunatic
If I really need to be lynched I'll eat it for poe. I wish you would have them visit me. You have to out who they are going to visit. 

From my poe that is bad, cus I know I'm town. You are more likely to hit scum that way. 


Keeping me alive after I'm dead is huge during the last day phases if I'm confirmed. 

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Riddle Mafia - Day Phase 2
So I think the solve is as follows.

1) luna is lying. (sorry have to say it)

If he's telling the truth. I will get a message saying I'm recruited

This confirms him, the recruit, and me. I don't get a message. There is no recruit and it's a gambit. 


If luna is town , he knows there is a recruit and he's Truthfull

Recruit is reading this. He visits me. 


Town confirms 3 people. 

After that if I'm town confirm. And I'm targeted. I'm still around to vote 

If recruit does , then you have to lynch me. 


Makes mafia 

1)pick between luna who If telling the truth is confirmed 
2) yolo try to kill the recruit to force a mislynch on me. 








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Or maybe supa was hinting at BP and I read it wrong entirely 
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@Lunatic
Just killed , if it was my lynched I would volunteer myself. 

I think supas works as lynched.  That would be my bet

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Even better the recruiter will be dead. 

Just make sure I'm the target. 

It forces mafia to pick between 

1) you as the kill 
2) hope they yolo and hit the recruit 

If recruit is hit , I get mislynched but odds are in our favor 

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@Lunatic
Game is over if all of this is true. 

Openly say you are going to recruit me. 

Dont say who the recruiter is. 

If we have a random death, I'm scum confirmed. 

(That won't happen.  Recruit can confirm me next dp)

Then If I'm the target of a nk , I stay around to vote regardless
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@SirAnonymous
I had a suspc of what he was. His likely works after lynched as well. 

Could be wrong 

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Riddle Mafia - Day Phase 2
Based on supas soft claim. I suspect there is a lot of "staying around after death"
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Riddle Mafia - Day Phase 2
F also missed the odd night compulsory.

No reason not to out anyway. I won't be the target of a nk cus I'm the easy mislynch 



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I want to poe this game down 

I'm adrenaline junkie. If I die at night , I stay around for one extra day 

And die during the next np


I'm going to get pushed as a mislynch , would rather get shot to self confirm. 

Confirms us both and you can recruit someone else 

(Say who you go for )

Game is over poe wise 


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Riddle Mafia - Day Phase 2
Fuck it. 

Can we vtnl and have you vig me tonight?

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@Lunatic
1) this has to be true (mason thing )

2) mafia had a recruit with judas ,  so I buy it 

3) why in the fuck would they recruit you as town if everyone other than me thought of you as confirmed 
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@Lunatic
I didn't fully iso and missed a lot. Said I was skimming. 
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For clarity it's not contrived.

Luna will agree with this because he's called you out on the same thing. You have a habbit of just being indecisive as mafia. 

I'm giving reads because luna said I hadn't which was a valid critique. 


I'm also not off luna. There is just no way to get a lynch or build a case. What do I do. Keep tunneling him to have no one listen to just get myself lynched for being stubborn 

Also reading this in iso moved him to null. Danielle had posted something I missed (I never read the op, bad habbit ) that said the "mod would post" 

If I take that literally then the riddle does likely town confirm him

Or she's bastard modding. 


So me beating my ahead against a wall to get nowhere is not helpful 






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@Lunatic
First dp only 

Not this dp


Re read her initial stance and watch how it changes when she agrees with me 

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@Lunatic
You don't find her post that I quoted weird at all?

That sticks out to me like a sore thumb. 


I could buy annon as newb town. 


He's either newb town or coasting. One or the other 

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@SirAnonymous
I did read it. Maybe hard is a stretch but you geninuly thought avoiding him was a good idea

Then we're swayed very easily. 

It's almost like coasting. 

Magic also has that habbit where she just rides the waves as scum 

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Want to look back Into the exact wording of Danielle's post as far as "mod will post riddles" 

If it says that , I likely have to concede my case. Bothers me magic did read that and went with it. 

If it says that and mafia posted it somehow it's bastard modding. 


Lynch pool is likely

Magic 
Anon 
Parrot 




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Chris reads null af
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@SirAnonymous
Sure but I'm game there is hardly no justification from you as to why. 

You went from a hard don't lynch to a sure with little to no explanation. 

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Intelligence bleeds noob town to me.
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Also has been coasting. Maybe new ?


So far 


Scum lean in order

Magic 
Anon 

Null 

Gp
Luna (this went from scum to null. Speed posted something where the mod said. "she would post the riddles. I entirely missed this dp1.). Will read wording to this later 

Town 
Speed 
Supa 








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Riddle Mafia - Day Phase 2
From around post 30 

Then at around post 90

Anon went from not wanting to lynch to being willing nearly out of no where 



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I don't know if I actually need to iso supa. Only supa would basically claim some role on his second post as town and hint at death utility?

I can't see him doing it as scum. He usually is quiet 

Supa as town is a vocal tp and doesn't think before he writes. So this is right up his meta as town 


Enough that I feel I don't need to really read to much more into him unless something really sticks out to me. He tried to call speed scum with bad logic but that's because he can't read. 

What do you expect from a trump lover 


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The quote below really really bothers me. I never really realized how much until I read it in iso

1) magic was really willing to vtl pie to test prior to this 
2) went from that to being willing to vtnl
3) and completely 180ed on her logic prior to this 

This sticks out to me because it was a super hard 180






I would really hate to say this, but Mikal is making sense. I think it is very bastard to have a misinformation riddle, but at this point my thoughts are we should either lynch Luna or not lynch this DP.  Comment #12 bothered me too, when I read it but it was just a gut check. In hindsight I think Luna embraced the riddle too willingly. I feel like Luna is usually more inclined to point out that nothing is certain and no information is guaranteed as town. Also, lynching Luna has the benefit of informing us whether we can rely on the riddles and will provide retrospective reads on a bunch of players. But I am also okay with VTNLing. 

If everyone disagrees on whether lynching Pie and him not dying this DP proves anything affiliation-wise, then this shouldn't be on the table anymore. 

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Riddle Mafia - Day Phase 2
Town lean speed for his response to supa*
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Grey parrots mostly seems okay , other than his role claim which was weird af


I lean town on speed. Most mafia won't be consistent with their reads. Him pointing out to supa dp1 that he read magic as town (this wasnt instant, he remembered his reads) implies that he actually had developed reads and was consistent with them. His reaction dp1 to the mod riddle seemed geniuine 

The only thing that half bothered me was the fact of him saying role madness. I didn't get that at all and I read it as trying to set up the lack of trust in roles but I think he piggybacked this off magic 





Going to iso but just post reads instead of how I did it there. Will take far to much work compared to mafia scum. 

For now I town lean supa 

With a wtf ???? On top of grey parrot 


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@Danielle
Is that allowed. Re : above post. 
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It just flusters me when people buy into a town confirmation so easily in a theme riddle game for gods sake. 

His motivation to kill pie definitely can exist as scum. Again I point back to last night. 


But that's it about this subject. If I get a break at work or before I play bdo today , I'm going to take the time to iso every player and take notes. Don't know how to work this site on my phone well so probably will write them on a piece of paper and then upload to imgur and post the link 

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@SirAnonymous
Also it's not anti town. Not letting him walk buy as town confirmed should be a norm. I'm just having to defend myself from saying that non stop which is why I want to move on. Its clogging the game

If you want to think he's town confirmed as perma thing. Then do it. 

If you want to need advice and at least keep in your mind that he's not. Then do it. 


I will not successfully push it and no one wants to even second guess it. You are only as good as mafia as much as you can convince people. I have no way to convince people to even entertain the idea so it's a lost cause to keep on about it at this point other than answering questions directed at me 

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@SirAnonymous
Iso is a term in mafia that means you take each player (or a specific player ) and read their posts and only their posts to form reads. It allows you to see breaches in logic or sudden flips in posting style to help develop reads. 

I usually iso the entire game and do it for each player. 

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If you want to vote me , vote me. But I actually want to move on past this. I fos you. I can't lead the lynch, and I am letting mafia win at this point by cluster fucking the page by arguing.  

Which is probably your intention 

But if I can't get you. I want to go back and actually iso this to focus on other people


With the amount of people here. The judas lynch was likely the (tp type roll). So prob 2 mafia 



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@Lunatic
How would town be eating itself alive right now? You are implying inside information, I would like to know what your talking about.
That's not information. No one plays on this site because town Is autistic. You never stop complaining about how bad people are as town. It's literally why we went to mafia scum 

So instead of letting people third imposter. I take an impossible position (as scum you are saying ) and try to double down and lead a mislynch that no one is on board with 


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1) you would be insanely skeptical and you would not read this as town confirmation. You are willing to run with it because you are town and people would accept it. Even as a town luna , I think you would bring the point up that it's not town confirmation.  

1A) you mean take down a role you as mafia would think or know that existed in the game.  Just so you can ride the town confirmation. 

The exact same thing max did last night , in a game that you modded.  No it would never happen 

The only thing you have added to your favor is that riddle 



2) we will see , when your alive the last dp as a "confirmed" townie , I'm going to lel 

3) right..... Because as scum I would leave you alive to try and mislynch you when literally no one on the game is remotely buying my case 

4) my gut would have had me lynch max. Me going along with people and thinking I'm the crazy one , is why I didn't. 

I'm not saying you are scum. 

I am willing to lynch you for a variety of reasons. 

1) to test the riddles. Which now we are down a dayphase so this is no where near as useful when we can afford it dp1

2) your entire overall playstyle. Not remotely second guessing that you could be town confirmed. Now suggesting that I'm pressured enough to try and tunnel lynch you as scum when I'm clearly in the minority when literally no one else agrees. Because that's a smart scum thing to do. 


Let's pretend I'm backed into a corner. So instead of posting very little , making excuse for my friend visiting , and saying I play bdo at night and letting town kill itself .(literally read every game prior to this, mafia doesn't need to win. You let town win for you ) Instead I'm causing this fus as scum 


Lmfao 













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Also that read makes no sense. If I was "backed" into a corner I would literally just go along with the town and not cause a fus

Do you think I'm going to rofl tunnel you as scum when I can just ride the dp and let town eat itself alive 

Lmao



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Insofar as the other reads. I have not had a chance to sit down and do an iso of the game. I was at work when I started posting and then we did live mafia all last night. If I get a chance today after bdo , I'm going to try to iso the entire game 


As for now it's dealing with my tldrs because I am not trying that on my phone 


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That's what bothers me even more about you and it's why I'm willing to bite down. If you flipped this with any other person, there is not a chance in hell you would willingly accept it.

And you will continue to be alive every dp 

If you outed your roll. Why no nk on you , why no role block , why nothing to attempt to stop you when everyone read you as town. 

They aren't leaving you alive to try and lead a mislynch on you. 

Yes I will triple down on my stance. Not that it's worth pursuing , but everything about how you have played this game bothers me. 

I didn't trust my gut last night, I'm 100 percent going to trust it now 


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@Lunatic
It's okay. Your read accuracy is as good as your gambling luck 

And no I'm not backing down and the fact you aren't willing to even acknowledge it after how last night played out is a joke 

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I absolutely do not think we should town confirm luna and we should prob move past that for the same reasons in live mafia. There is no way to prove it and if he is scum , he's set this up so we'll it will be near impossible to build a case against him 

We should not insta town confirm him and keep that thought in our mind

If anything use last night as precident

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