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Scum joat is exactly what I'm thinking. May have shit like stalker or something but is scared to claim watcher or tracker in case he gets cc'ed
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@whiteflame
Yes. You get what I'm saying though. The ability to stagger this claim is big if he's scum. It's a perfect way to get out of pressure and then once he sees what's in the game. He can make his joat off that.
That's what worries me.
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Also allows him to stagger his claims to others claim so he can make joat abilities around what comes out
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@Mharman
Yes. Joat means nothing. Based on what he has shows game balance and people can make a mental note of his claims and if there is a hard cc.
If he's a joat with protective roles and there is a doctor
If he has watcher tracker and there's a watcher tracker in game.
Joat is a easy way to get out of pressure , it's the roles that can get him cc'ed and make him slip
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@Earth
You really should claim at this point. You are l1 and dayphase ends tomorrow. If you refuse it , you are likely going to be the target.
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Doesn't mean we are going to lynch him. Means he claims or we lynch
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@Earth
Go ahead and full roll claim or we are going to pressure. Basically if you say no. We go for you this dp
Pls and ty
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@Mharman
I think we just need to quickly pressure some players.
this is objectively correct and until we do, im staying on gp because hes the best lynch
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If I was giving a rough shot read on what I think right now, tldr version
1. Me - drool
2. iLikePie5 - slight scum
3. Supadudz - drool
4. Badger - town
5. DD - slight scum
6. Earth - null
7. ComputerNerd - null
8. Suigeneris - null to slight town
9. Mharman - drool
10. Whiteflame - null to slight town
11. Greyparrot - dead
12. Airmax122 - null
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vtl gp
unless something else comes up my vote is staying here. It's literally what I said at the start of the game. Have the people are pepe brain or not posting so past the people that are actively contributing there is not much else to be gained from this. Not even enough people online to put pressure on someone properly. TBH parrot is the right choice here and we can at least go ahead and get to dp2 so there are results and shit to go off of and hopefully max and computer are back around. At this point, this dp is a waste of time. Just please end this so we can move on
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@ILikePie5
I don't think earth is scum. I'm saying out of all the players in the game, he is probably the best target for pressure since he is likely wet behind the ears more than most. Targeting someone like that typically yields the best result as they are the most likely to slip under pressure
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@whiteflame
@badger
WF - Toned down primarily because there is not another option. Me bitching at people and being pissed never does anything in forum games so even when I'm right I just get policy lynched. That being said I am fuming inside because the lack of activity actually irks me into no end and makes me regret signing up
Badger - This is not "defending sui" , just applying what i saw in life mafia last night as that was my first major interaction with him in mafia that I can recall. I've played with him before , but not where he was basically town locked in my mind and had to help carry. WF can attest to this, he is very weird as town. I am not defending him and don't mind having pressure there at some point. I'm saying it's easier to put pressure on someone that is not aware of the theme because they are likely to slip when pressure on him would likely yield nothing.
1) because he is not posting so has unlimited time to just think if he's scum and his meta is inactive so everyone puts it to null
2) because he is aware of theme so he can wing this better than others
theme knowledge does a lot when no one knows what to look for if that makes sense. Don't mistake me wanting to pick a better target as me "defending him"
i just honestly think that direction yields nothing because theme knowledge + inactivity is a bad direction when others are likely to fuck up more than someone with ways to squirm around. I think looking at roles / night actions is where you will catch him if hes scum because he then has to think on his feet
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Pending If max and nerd reply , I may change my vote as well. I legitimately have no idea how to handle inactives and it's partially why I rage so much and hate playing on dart. People that dont participate are impossible to read and could be town or Mafia. The pressure is likely best there if they don't respond soon. I would really like to see earth claim for the reasons I mentioned before but If we have people who are going to ghost we almost have to push tag direction
Bases on how utterly useless this dp has been. We likely end on gp no matter how what
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“And if I want to put all $7,945,400 into a hot tub get buck naked and play Scrooge McDuck, that is 100% my business. Now, where’s my money?”
- Martin ‘Marty’ Byrde (Ozark 2017)
- Martin ‘Marty’ Byrde (Ozark 2017)
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@airmax1227
Knock knock.
You going to play this game or say you are going to play and post twice
Post hoe
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@badger
I agree with that totally. I just think because he knows the theme, it's just as dangerous now. Anyone who knows theme can dictate a game. But we have waited so long to pressure that if he is Mafia it's likely pointless now.
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@badger
I think any mafia is going to attempt to look at theme or behavior in an attempt to emulate town behavior.
The issue with with the 2 choices.
1) sui knows theme. We push him as town and he's town. We lose our only source of game knowledge. If he's scum, he's the most likely to not fuck up or come up with something believable because he knows theme
2) earth is newer and does not know theme. He's way more likely to fuck up imo
I just think we get no solid information out of a sui pressure. Maybe if we go all the way and get his full claim but I think we could cause slips on other people who are more likely to fuck up because of lack of knowledge
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Either that or it's some obscure role like pie and pacifist last night.
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That's why I want to push someone and I'd prefer earth since I think he's the most likely to slip. Someone is likely not going to slip with a character claim because there is no one to catch it (other than sui which I am leaning town towards but it's a very early read). I think locking someone into a roll is a better way to catch something off. Chances of cc are high if it's the first person to claim and we land on Mafia.
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@badger
That's likely why it won't matter. At this point he's had time to work on stuff. It's like 2 days in. Dude could probably claim the most obscure character in the show and none of us would recognize it. That's the rough part about a game where literally no one knows theme except for like 1 person.
Judging from what people have said no one knows this. Also incentive for mafia to just claim their real characters because no one else would pick up on split. (also happened last night when bullish did a stock theme game)
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@badger
Tbh I was right with you on the thought process to this. It's actually a higher tier read. It seemed inflated and not organic. Like he was posting what *should happen* and not *not was*. Also the fact that he seemed like he was trying to set himself to guide the game by saying he has theme knowledge at a decent level.
Then I played live Mafia with him last night and he's just as nervous and stuttery in how he talks. I had a massive town read on him one game and I was objectively right and almost went back on the read because he was stuttering and nervous and wanted to lynch me as confirmed cop. I think when he gets in situations where he does not know what to do. He almost over commits and that is typically a Mafia tell because it's like he is posting fluff in ways but after last night it may be his personality
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@airmax1227
I've heard you and seen you defend the holocaust
saying "it was great for Jews because of what it did for them societally"
should be follow the lead of Hitler and send you to the gas chamber
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@Earth
he does this ever game, I would probably say every game for the past 3 years. No matter what he is. He also does it as mafia and lies about his role. The issue is, he would not lie and claim survivor as mafia because hes a 100 percent lynch at some point and he would not say this as town. So 100 percent telling the truth
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@badger
Playing to your win con is not winning. If there is a better target I agree. Otherwise regardless of how you view it, he is unfortunately a utility lynch. If I ensure not sure or have no solid reads because of it being both dp1 and the lack of activity that is bound to happen in every dart game then lynching him prevents us from being wrong. It also is better than a no lynch.
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@sui_generis
You have to tag someone and when you tag them, you type a different brand of popcorn.
Tag
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Going back over and the one thing pie sad that was not fluff was also an option. There are so many inactive Pepe's in these games that you can't really get behavior reads
You have supa who is basically a perma Miller irl
Mharm who drools half the time
Sui who doesn't post
Max who posts like once a day
Computer nerd who had like 5 posts the entire last game
And grey Parrot who wants to kill himself every game (love you )
Literally half the people playing are keyboard drooling inactives. So we may actually have to look at a way to force activity from them before we are trying to get reads late game and people post once a day to type some dumbass fluff post and it's to late / impossible. You need activity to form some type of behavior reads and dart is dead with activity
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Should use this dp to get some info and pressure and then lynch gp sadly. From his statement he doesn't win with town or Mafia but wins if he doesn't die.
A standard tp survivor role basically
Which probably means it's 3-1-8
2-1-8 is so heavy skewed to town it's not viable
Could be 2-1-1-8 or some crazy shit like that so more likely 3-1-8 as the simpler balance solve.
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Not much to really comment on so far
Gp is doing gp and is likely telling the truth . As Mafia he would not do his standard claim thing and claim third party.
DD is hard town for me already. From behavior I like everything he has said. His entire process reads as scum hunting.
Pie is typing fluff and is likely my target after we get earth to claim. When someone is just typing to fill space it's usually a scum tell
Gp is doing gp and is likely telling the truth . As Mafia he would not do his standard claim thing and claim third party.
DD is hard town for me already. From behavior I like everything he has said. His entire process reads as scum hunting.
Pie is typing fluff and is likely my target after we get earth to claim. When someone is just typing to fill space it's usually a scum tell
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@whiteflame
Not particularly tbh. Mainly just because of RVS and also because he's one of the "newer" players. He's not an og. I would push mharm but having played with him before, I think it would be similar to a supa complex where you could put pressure and the interactions are so awkward with how they play sometime, it probably would just lead me to scum reading him off the rip
I think earth is a good rvs Target and likely a good spot to put initial pressure because he's likely the newest player to have a meaningful impact on the game . Tbh I kinda want to push a claim asap. Mainly because it locks him into it and he won't have time to react
Dp1 typically just ends with a random guess on who to lynch or you put a lot of pressure off the bat and try to catch a slip. Someone has to be the target if initial pressure and I think we could gain a lot from him just because of the aforementioned reasons.
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Heyo disclaimer. Started a new job so typically at work from like 7-6 est for the next few weeks. That includes travel times. I can't type that much during the day but will catch up at night / check on break
Vtl earth
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Earth
Sakura Haruno - Growing up and being apart of team 7 you did not really blossom in strength until later in the series. It was not until one of the legendary sanin and future hokage Lady Tsunade started to train you did you really start to grow. Through her tutelage you picked up an aptitude for raw strength and power, but more importantly a knack for medicine and healing. The medical ninjutsu you have is a life saver for you group to the point tsunade even commented that her aptitude for healing is beyond rare.
Skill -medical ninjutsu - target 1 person and heal/protect them from death (doctor)
Max
Asuna Yuuki - On of the strongest characters in Aincrad. You are both gorgeous and fierce. You are prone to fight for those who are in trouble and protect those around you. You hate seeing others die around you, and you want to defend people so bad the source of your strength is protecting those near you. Your fierce resolve is what makes you a force to not be trifled with and this has always kept you ahead of the pack in terms of both level and power.
Skill - Star Splash - A series of quick strikes to whom you are fighting consisting of jabs and slashes to find weak spots on the target (1x Revealer)
Target one person on dayphase 1 and any actions or skills used against that person will be posted the following dayphase upon their death
Luna
Yuno Gasai - You are certainly unique, and have your moments when you are borderline insane. You have an unhealthy obsession with Yukiteru. All the issues you have stem back from abuse at the hands of your mother and father. Yukiteru functions as a pillar and a reason for you to live, he is your rock. You will stop at nothing to protect him.
Skill - Yukiteru Diary - This tells you everything about Yukiteru and when combined with his power that predicts his surroundings, you can effectively track or find anything (tracker)
Pie
Caitlyn Kirraman - The sheriff of piltover as you are formally known later in your life. It was not always like that though. Growing up you were a recruit in the force who always had a strong sense of justice even if it meant defying your superiors. You would never let a lead get past you and always follow up on it to make sure proper action was taken even if it meant getting you in trouble. Eventually people learned you had a good shot, and that you were very good at your job and the promotion came your way
Skill - 90 Caliber net - The recoil from this is so strong it knocks you back, but it does slow down and tie up your target giving you time to investigate them (cop)
Supa
Lucy Heartfila - One of animes sweethearts. You practice Celestial Spirit Magic which allows you to summon Celestial Spirits to aid you. You are confident and strong and are also not afraid to use your looks to get what you want. So many people underestimated you but with time you grew in strength and power and now you are respected
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Summon Leo - Leo uses the power of regulus to fight those around him. Light emerges from him and his melee prowess is improved (1x stun, you can stop someone from using a role for the night)
Summon Aries - Aries embraces the power of the sheep and uses wool to attack / defend. Her wool can suffocate and prevent others from moving while protecting them (1x Jailkeeper)
Summon Virgo - Virto utilizes earth magic to her advantage. She can dig under ground and hide from her adversaries (1x hide)
Summon Aquarius - Skilled in the art of water magic she can literally become water using water body making her immune to attacks (1x bullet proof) (edited)
Grey Parrot
Lucy (Kaede) - Anyone watching you would think you are the bad guy. You are violent, you are strong, and you are ruthless. No one would guess that by looking at you. You are ironically a protagonist but are also the living embodiment of what it means to be a anti hero. One of the first Diclonius and having psychokinetic abilities that gives you powers that far surpass normal humans, you are terrifying. They hurt you and used you for experiments and even though you finally escaped by murdering everyone around you in the process you were injured invoking a child like personality. Your past personality bleeds through but in your new life, you are gentle and kind but you will kill anyone who comes to take you back to where you once were
skill - suppression of kaede - Through your past injury you think of yourself as a child and you can harm no one but to others you will always appear violent (suspect)
If investigated you appear guilty, and if you die this pm will not be displayed. The only thing that will appear in the thread is you are guilty and the pm will edited to make it reflect you were Mafia when it posts on your flip
If someone votes to lynch you, the suppression is released and you invoke the powers of the diclonius killing someone who targeted you.
(1x hunter, you can target someone who participated in your lynch and only your lynch and kill them)
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Congrats Town Wins, and Holy Shit Did they win
MVP is objectively pie. I have seen pie do some stupid stuff in mafia, but this game may actually have been one of the best reads / town games I have ever seen and not just from him but anyone I have ever played with. He literally nailed every mechanic in the game and broke the game down to the point that he figured out the passive frozen solid skill came from jana which was nearly impossible to find. Mega mega mega mvp. The cop on whiteflame ended the game basically
Overall thoughts
Game was balanced around frozen solid being able to bypass almost all the protective rolls once applied. Wylted had a 1x PGO which also could have helped mafia. Warren was a lost mafia with the skills that he had to boot. I actually think this game was balanced in favor of mafia with town having some counter measures such as aerith being able to prevent all nks (this took effect over frozen solid) and max having a skill that listed off every action done to him. Would have been a lot more fun but the np1 basically ended this. Super unfortunate that mafia targeted waren, and also super unfortunate pie hit the nail on the head before he could use beguiling speech
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Mafia
Welcome to Mafia PM
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Wylted - DVA - What more can be said, you are a sexy as hell professional gamer girl. You are the stereotype for an ideal waifu. In your past life you were Hana Song and dominated star craft. Because of your skills and how well you performed online, when omnics attacked the nation the government turned to professional gamers for help. And you being rank#1, were first on the list
Skill - Game Over - Set your mecha to self destruct and wipe out anyone around you (1x Bomb)
One night phase you can choose to detonate your mecha and kill anyone who visited you.
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Whiteflame -
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Jaina Proudmoore - You are one of the strongest mages in all of azeroth and daughter of Daelin and Katherine Proudmoore. Your exploits are so numerous that it is hard to count. You helped defeat the burning legion, stood up against Arthas and took a moral stance against him murdering the people of stratholme before they were corrupted, helped found theramore, and stood against sylvanas windrunner and the horde. Your power is beyond measure and when thermamore was destroyed the strength you found inside yourself gave you the will to grow even stronger
Heart of Frost - (Passive Skill) When a player visits you they are affected with (frozen solid)
Shattering Lance - (Passive Skill) When you kill someone with a mafia night kill if they are effected with (frozen solid) they will still die even if protected this bypasses things like (doctor, bulletproof, bodyguard, etc) there are some things that still will still prevent the kill from going through. Once Heart of frost is applied, any nk attempt used that included both you and your partners, will gain this effect.
Glacial Ray - (Active Skill 1x) targets a player and effects them with (frozen solid) , this skill is a ranged skill and is not trackable.
Crystaline Dust - (Active Skill 1x) All those who visit you when this action is used will auto fail on any action used on you
Beguiling Speech - (Active Skill 1x) Target someone and that person will always appear innocent if they are guilty or guilty if they are innocent until the end of the game
Howling Winds - (Active Skill 1x) Targets the field to make vision restricted, anyone performing a Nk cannot be tracked or watched that night (1x ninja)
Warren
Sarah Kerrigan - Incredibily gifted and incredibly strong you were once a member of the renowned confederate ghosts and worked your way up in the ranks to become a main leader in the sons of korhal. Eventually this would not last and you were captured and infected by the zerg swarm and evolved into the zerg queen and named yourself the queen of blades. Nothing would stop you and your lust for power would ultimately allow you to ascend to a more powerful species, a xel'naga. Nothing would rival your power again
Skill - Infected - If you are killed, votes the next dayphase will have to be submitted to the mod via dm, and once submitted you cannot change the vote for the rest of the dayphase. Votes will not be displayed in the main thread nor will a final vote count be posted in the dayphase. The dayphase will simply end with someone's lynch once the majority is reached via dm
Skill - Silence of Ascension - (1x) Target one player at night, that player cannot type the next dayphase. He can only respond with gifs, videos, and such. (edited)
You win with the mafia. If your partners die, you will assume the role of night killing. (edited)
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Sui
Zero 2 - Pink hair and sexy af, you feel in love with hiro and would stop at nothing to protect him. You were his pistill in Strelizia. Together nothing could stop you. Eventually you even chose to defend him and the rest of the world by taking Strelizia into it's final golden form to be able to fight off the VIRM. You and Hiro both died but you ended up defending humanity with your sacrifice.
Skill - True Apus - Convert into your final form and and protect everyone dear to you (1x bodyguard) (edited)
DD / Comptuer
Aerith Gainsborough - You are probably one of the first major waifus in gaming. Loving, kind, caring and loyal you have all the qualities someone looks for. You were also beloved by the fan base so that made your death that much harder to handle. You were one of the first major characters in a FF to die in the way that you did and it twisted the story on it's head. Fans mourned you and still to do this day, your death scene is one of the most heart wrenching moments in jrpg history. But through your death you protected the entire world from meteor and sephiroth
Skill - Holy - When you are lynched the following nightphase will result in no kills occurring (1x virgin)
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1) Grey Parrot
Lucy (Kaede) - Anyone watching you would think you are the bad guy. You are violent, you are strong, and you are ruthless. No one would guess that by looking at you. You are ironically a protagonist but are also the living embodiment of what it means to be a anti hero. One of the first Diclonius and having psychokinetic abilities that gives you powers that far surpass normal humans, you are terrifying. They hurt you and used you for experiments and even though you finally escaped by murdering everyone around you in the process you were injured invoking a child like personality. Your past personality bleeds through but in your new life, you are gentle and kind but you will kill anyone who comes to take you back to where you once were
Skill - suppression - If someone votes to lynch you, the suppression is released and you invoke the powers of the diclonius killing someone who targeted you.
(1x hunter, you can target someone who participated in your lynch and only your lynch and kill them)
You win the Mafia
2) Supa
Lucy Heartfila - One of animes sweethearts. You practice Celestial Spirit Magic which allows you to summon Celestial Spirits to aid you. You are confident and strong and are also not afraid to use your looks to get what you want. So many people underestimated you but with time you grew in strength and power and now you are respected
Skill
Summon Leo - Leo uses the power of regulus to fight those around him. Light emerges from him and his melee prowess is improved (1x stun, you can stop someone from using a role for the night)
Summon Aries - Aries embraces the power of the sheep and uses wool to attack / defend. Her wool can suffocate and prevent others from moving while protecting them (1x Jailkeeper)
Summon Virgo - Virto utilizes earth magic to her advantage. She can dig under ground and hide from her adversaries (1x hide)
Summon Aquarius - Skilled in the art of water magic she can literally become water using water body making her immune to attacks (1x bullet proof)
You win with the town
3) Warren
Sarah Kerrigan - Incredibily gifted and incredibly strong you were once a member of the renowned confederate ghosts and worked your way up in the ranks to become a main leader in the sons of korhal. Eventually this would not last and you were captured and infected by the zerg swarm and evolved into the zerg queen and named yourself the queen of blades. Nothing would stop you and your lust for power would ultimately allow you to ascend to a more powerful species, a xel'naga. Nothing would rival your power again
Skill - Infected - If you are killed, votes the next dayphase will have to be submitted to the mod via dm, and once submitted you cannot change the vote for the rest of the dayphase. Votes will not be displayed in the main thread nor will a final vote count be posted in the dayphase. The dayphase will simply end with someone's lynch once the majority is reached via dm
Skill - Silence of Ascension - (1x) Target one player at night, that player cannot type the next dayphase. He can only respond with gifs, videos, and such. You win with the mafia. If your partners die, you will assume the role of night killing.
4) Whiteflame
Jaina Proudmoore - You are one of the strongest mages in all of azeroth and daughter of Daelin and Katherine Proudmoore. Your exploits are so numerous that it is hard to count. You helped defeat the burning legion, stood up against Arthas and took a moral stance against him murdering the people of stratholme before they were corrupted, helped found theramore, and stood against sylvanas windrunner and the horde. Your power is beyond measure and when thermamore was destroyed the strength you found inside yourself gave you the will to grow even stronger
Heart of Frost - (Passive Skill) When a player visits you they are affected with (frozen solid)
Shattering Lance - (Passive Skill) When you kill someone with a mafia night kill if they are effected with (frozen solid) they will still die even if protected this bypasses things like (doctor, bulletproof, bodyguard, etc) there are some things that still will still prevent the kill from going through. Once Heart of frost is applied, any nk attempt used that included both you and your partners, will gain this effect.
Glacial Ray - (Active Skill 1x) targets a player and effects them with (frozen solid) , this skill is a ranged skill and is not trackable.
Crystaline Dust - (Active Skill 1x) All those who visit you when this action is used will auto fail on any action used on you
Beguiling Speech - (Active Skill 1x) Target someone and that person will always appear innocent if they are guilty or guilty if they are innocent until the end of the game
Howling Winds - (Active Skill 1x) Targets the field to make vision restricted, anyone performing a Nk cannot be tracked or watched that night (1x ninja)
you win with the mafia
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5) max
Asuna Yuuki - On of the strongest characters in Aincrad. You are both gorgeous and fierce. You are prone to fight for those who are in trouble and protect those around you. You hate seeing others die around you, and you want to defend people so bad the source of your strength is protecting those near you. Your fierce resolve is what makes you a force to not be trifled with and this has always kept you ahead of the pack in terms of both level and power.
Skill - Star Splash - A series of quick strikes to whom you are fighting consisting of jabs and slashes to find weak spots on the target (1x Revealer)
Target one person on dayphase 1 and any actions or skills used against that person will be posted the following dayphase upon their death
you win with the town
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Asuna lets out a scream, you may have killed me but not my friends. A series of strikes flows across the battle field and all is made clear as time slows down
Actions used on asuna
asuna was tracked
asuna was killed
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there are 6 living players, and it takes 4 to lynch
Pie
Earth
DD/ Computer
Wylted
Lunatic
Sui
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