Mikal

i got you baby

It is through a long hard meaty thick period of deliberation that I came to the idea that I want to vote for askbob. Since the user is not present on this site, I will sadly vote for airmax

you arent voting for me luckily 

Inside every troubled soul, there is a good person. Let us remember this day, when he returned to us

are you #freethenipple

do you embrace RMS renewed support?

Interview with RM

Same one that gave you a blowie on the airplane ?

It's not even dislike. It's irrational disdain and borderline obsession. It's very unhealthy. He thinks he has some deep understanding of Max and what type of person he is and he is protecting the site from him. It's humourous

Can verify he will actually do this. He had something similar on DDO with voting efforts. 

But yes. I interpreted this as a meme. I will continue as is, until whiteflame addresses me. I actually am not taking this seriously. 

Allow me to direct quote him 

For context max never has treated anyone poorly. I encourage you to review his posts directed at rm even when rm is blatantly attacking him non stop. He's nothing but cordial. 

RMD entire take is based 

RM is just mad he was banned 

This is prob seventh or bossy. Shabs account was shut down so he has a multi up atm. Prob trolling

A good example of this is the Mafia game. You are tripping out because max did not condemn that game from happening? You are so upset that Luna made a freaking game around your quotes lol? We have had the same games made about Max and I. No one cares, it's all in jest. The issue is you get so offended when you perceive that someone is attacking you or disagreeing with you that you have no idea how to react normally to a situation like that. When that game was made with "the personalities of mikal" which was way worse than what you got. I laughed because it was humorous

So yes I think you are fully unable to accept when you are wrong and are also unable to read social situations in a way that allow you to react how most normal people would react to stuff like that 

Again , it's nothing you can help so I can't fault you from that. Just telling you how I see it from the outside looking in. If I thought Luna was in the wrong I would be all over him. We are not bias towards each other at all and have probably fought 10x more than you and him have. I can just call him stupid or vise versa and we get it over it after talking it out. You both give ground to come to a mutual understanding, that's how any disagreement typically works. In his brain he is defending max and his reputation from you, that is why is he chapping your asshole right now

I'm the first to admit I'm bias. I don't think I'm bias toward lunatic at all. Has he been extremely harsh on you? Yes absolutely, but do you deserve it (from his perspective)? Also yes, he thinks you certainly deserve it. 

I have not even talked to Luna about this and I can tell you what he sees from it. He sees you attacking airmax and making ridiculous remarks about him as a person. He knows those remarks are false so he engages with you and defends him. You engage back and say more things that are just quantifiably wrong. He engages back. You think because he is disagreeing with you in a heated manner, he is attacking you. So you want him to stop attacking you, while you continue to lob passive aggressive remarks at max or him. This is what he thinks you went to moderation for. 

Can almost promise you this is his thought process , because it's how I've read the entire situation myself. It's also obviously how moderation read it since they have not stepped in. So it's not just him reading it this way, of me reading it this way and being bias. It's also moderation and most people who are watching this unfold have the same opinion of it and all are telling you the same thing. And again you are either unable or unwilling to admit when you are wrong. 

You hardly mention him at all?

The man is living rent free in your brain lol 

That's not lying at all. 

I can still want the site to die and be around. I've been around here off and on for a while myself. Yes I think he is the key to fixing it, if he loses I am 100 percent sure it will continue down the same path it has been and eventually just die. And in ways I certainly hope that happens because it opens up the possibility for a new site or new options to come up that can be structured better from the ground up. 

No one has said vote or we leave. Luna has been around since day 1 lol. You are the one saying that. But do you expect max to want to stay around to participate and help moderate a site where some random person (you) spends there entire day berating and attacking him to the point it's not enjoyable. 

Engaging with you, being friends with you, having conversations with you is not enjoyable to anyone. It's why you don't have many friends. You are their friend until they disagree with you, then you block them and don't want to talk to them. You literally took the time to message me on discord to try to get me to understand your side and then when I disagreed. You literally ended the PM with. 

"Then you are wrong!"

Or some shit and reblocked me again. You are not capable of having a conversation where you have to admit you are in the wrong or a conversation that goes against your confirmation bias or opinion of someone (what you think of max for example)

So I'm sure Connor will be around. Will max 

be around if he loses? I have no idea. If I had to read the cesspool of vomit you produce everyday and you spent your entire existence attacking me, it would not be fun for me either. 

Also to clarify that is my opinion, not one of airmax. I have no idea what he thinks of you other than he probably is annoyed that you literally spend your entire day berating him and trying to smear his name with facts that are so far from the truth it's laughable. 

As far as I'm aware he's never had an issue with you.  Luna is just way more outspoken and doesn't let bullshit fly 

Your welcome to find screenshots, I know what I posted and those two things were it lol.  I think your hate from him stems from 2 things 

1) Being on the spectrum and being unable to socially connect with people. So you still have a grudge against him because of that perma ban because of how unjustified it felt to you. The fact that everyone disagrees with you and agrees with him is something you literally cannot mentally accept because you are not capable of processing it properly. I don't fault you for it, it is what it is. 

2) You hate everyone who disagrees with you for much of the same reason. Your brain cannot allow you to be wrong. So you message, look for, and try to feign the victim and manipulate people into thinking you are always in the right. 

 The difference in between Luna and I, is he gets annoyed by you and is not scared to call you out. I just find it cute and understand your brain is wired in a way that prevents you from changing it or making connections with people. 

No one hates you, if anything I would throw it to pity at worst. 

He's accusing you of using me and Luna to campaign for you. And I think the only thing even I've posted on other platforms is 

1) Max is running , make dart great again. Trump 2022 

Once in discord and once in Facebook. RM is just mentally challenged

If I get other people from other websites to vote for brutal, he is disqualified?

You and him as contenders need to decide the judges. And just as you have a say in it, he should as well

That's for you and Luna to work out. 

That's why I'm agreeing with Wylted. Him and whiteflame are both suited for it 

I'm saying those 3 judges should not be a  question. If you two want to agree on it that's fine. You will never land on people you agree with because you are going to try to find people that sympathize with you only instead of people who can think objectively. The fact you are saying wf is not capable of judging a debate objectively shows this 

Whiteflame is the most objective judge in the history of ddo and dart. Literally factual. 

You Cant fully select a panel by yourself because you are never going to agree on anyone. 

Whiteflame and Wylted are both qualified to judge it and that should be fine.  

It's not about who has been more justified. It should be about, if he justified in acting in the way he has. 

Thats the entire point. Not who has been acting worse but if his actions are justified. You can change it morally , doesn't change anything about the debate 

Can we make this enforceable by a moderator. Loser has an enforced RO to not type to the other one or about the other one if they lose since they both will consent by debating 

RM as pro

Lunatic as con 

Loser has to not type anything to the other one or about the other one for two weeks. 

If either refuses. You are a pussy and have no right to open your mouth. No backing out, man up and debate or no one will take you serious. If either says no, I will always refer to you as a clown from now until this site dies. 

That I'm fully down for. 

I'm all for doing it for fun, but not to appease RM. 

We don't need to do another one to prove a point. They have already been done and are there. Like everyone including moderation has told RM how to handle this situation. I'm pretty sure he's unstable. You can't mention his name in any way without him going off the handle. He lacks the the social cognition to realize when people are meming him or when people are actually attacking him. I wasn't even there for the game but the lack of thin skin is mind blowing. It's literally sjw full on snowflake. 

Literally you two should debate and hash it out. 

Resolved - "RM is undeserving of Lunatics recent actions toward him"

RM you actually have issues. They have did Mafia games on quotes from everyone. Quotes from me, quotes from yyw, quotes from airmax, etc. We all make games and roast each other. There is literal logs of it in discord. 

Stop being a snowflake ffs. You are literally poison to stuff around you. Both the mods and multiple people have told you to stop responding and stop making a fus for them to take you seriously and prevent "Luna" from bullying you. 

You have proven this 100x over now. You are not capable of stopping. You want to be able to attack max , attack anyone who disagrees with you, all while calling people a bully when confronts you. 

All you have to do to prove the mods and him right is stop posting and show that it's one sided. You are not capable of it. 

Do you remember that conversation we had in discord. Where you accused luna of lying about you and borderline defamation, and I said people are allowed to have opinions. This is literally what I was saying, and this is proof of it. You keep saying stupid stuff about max because you dislike him, just as luna says stupid stuff about you as he dislikes you. But you want luna to stop, yet you want to be able to do it yourself. This is why moderation will never take any request you ask them for seriously 

I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with supa 100 percent 

I could agree with most of this as long as it was clearly defined and aired toward lenient instead of harsh 

My vote would go to entirely subjective at adherent to white flame as head mod 

Or fully and clearly defined 

You do realize you possess the capability to defend yourself without mudslinging back. It's akin to someone hitting you and instead of retreating you opt to immediately start trying to harm them back. If you stopped trying to attack back and making passive insults (I'm not going to quote you, you can read your own posts), it would make you look better. At that point it would seem as if he is the one attacking you when you have removed yourself from the conversation. If he continued at that point, you would have a case for an RO

At the moment you are consistently proving him right. I honestly think you feel like you have to have the last word , or you have to get a quip in instead of dropping the conversation. It fully reinforces the idea that you want to be able to punch but not be punched at