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@Lunatic
@Casey_Risk
@Owen_T
I targeted Luna and Owen, they have the same alignment, so that makes me totally sus Casey.
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Alright, I haven’t been as active as I should, so here’s some reads.
My top two scum reads would be either Casey or Vader, and I do mean either. Generally when two players are trying to wagon the other one I take it as a sign that it’s unlikely both are scum. Bussing at this point in the game seems like too risk of a strategy IMO.
I scumread Casey more last DP, but since then they have cleared up most of those reasons. They have been acting slightly different I think, but that’s just a gut feeling, and honestly behavioral reads shouldn’t be the only basis for a lynch. The Vanilla claim still Bugs me though.
Then there’s Vader on the other hand. I don’t give much scum thought to the lurking and little activity. It has some weight with me, but not lots. The claim bothers me a little more, but not a ton.
I haven’t read the DP in as much depth as I should, so a part of this scum read is trusting Casey and Whiteflame, but they could be scum team. If Casey is scum then I might sus WF as partner, but I’m getting ahead of myself.
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Alright, I'm going to turn in for the night. I probably won't be too active tomorrow, so I'll make my case here. I'm too exhausted to write coherently, so kudos if you can figure out what I'm trying to say.
Naturally, some of this may change after we get more full-claims, but this is why I shouldn't be lynch as of right now.
I feel pretty stupid for not getting the Theme split earlier on.
Now I get that my reasons for not using my role aren't the best, but the point is that there is a defensible reason. You may disagree with my decision, but I have reasoning for why I made it. IMO, this negates the whole thing about how I might be scum based on my night actions.
Also, I was one of the first to full claim. That's always a good reason. I've also been active-ish. That gives me a major benefit over lots of the people supposedly playing this game.
Finally, I'll ask for just one more round. If I'm not killed, I'll have some info for you, and if I am, well then I'm not scum. It's kinda like me saying I'm confirmable in a way.
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@CatholicApologetics
Are you maximizing for survival purposes, or is rescue all but guaranteed, and you are choosing who lives who dies? (who tells your story).
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@whiteflame
@Casey_Risk
Alright, I'm at my computer now, so I can be active now.
Your role is not a weak Cop, since a Cop only gives us info on one target.
But the thing is that it only gives you a little info on two people, not a lot on just one.
Your role would tell us if your targets were on the same side or not, which would at minimum reduce our PoE.
But that's not for sure. I wanted to maximize the use of it. In retrospect, yeah it's a bit risky, but I stand by my decision. The choice was to use it then and not get much, or risk not getting anything to get lots more.
If you’d gotten a clash, we would have one scum member down to a coin flip at worst. If you’d gotten both on the same side, being able to rule out two people as likely town (possible you’d pick both scum, but less likely) would still be a big deal.
Right, but if I waited, the role gets upped to a definite Cop, not a maybe cop.
Really, not even JoeBob or Pie? They were both very heavily town leaning.
Well Pie didn't really give me a lot to go on for scum or town, and Joebob was in that CC pool right?
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@whiteflame
@Casey_Risk
If it was a normal affiliation cop, I would have used it, but since it’s weakened in a certain way, I decided to wait at least 1 NP.
If I used it just right I can make it a cop really, I just need someone that is town confirmed, or at least very town likely. I didn’t see anyone who met that description I enough for me.
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@whiteflame
I’m a 1x. I didn’t use it. I claimed this back on post 51 of the last DP, so I’m not backtracking.
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@whiteflame
Can’t really talk much now, I’ll be on in an hour or two and can go for the rest of the night.
I will say that I wasn’t active last DP just because I didn’t see that stuff was happening. I have a bad habit of not checking the DP unless someone tags me. Sorry about that.
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@Greyparrot
Let's assume this obscure thing happened and is true.
Arlington said it happened, so I’d say there’s a pretty good case.
Realistically, what do you think the nation cares about more...a Leader that respects the fallen under his command, or a leader that has all the best photography staff?
Yeah, this isn’t going to sway any votes, my point was just that maybe Trump isn’t completely blameless.
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@Greyparrot
It’s playing politics on both sides. Trump wanted a good shot, and when it caused a controversy, Harris jumped on it. They’re politicians, can you blame them?
Also, Trump’s aids did verbally abuse a Arlington employee, but that wasn’t Trump himself, though I doubt he punished anyone.
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Sorry, accidentally pressed the send button. Earth didn’t give my role a name, but I can compare the alignment of two players once per game. For example, Earth would tell me that they have the same or different alignments.
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@Casey_Risk
Alright, I suppose I’ll go. I’m 80 AD, the year the colosseum was built. Many Gladiators were pitted against each other in the there, so I am a 1x
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@Casey_Risk
To be honest, this makes me sus you more than Joebob. He CCed last, so that leaves me or you, and I know I’m not scum.
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60-70 AD
You have got to be kidding me. That’s three years within 30 years of each other.
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@Best.Korea
No offense, but you are a walking contradiction to that sentence.
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@Best.Korea
The Sophists beat people in debates all the time, but does that make them smart?
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@Casey_Risk
Well the chances of Earth making two years that are only 30 years apart max are seem pretty slim to me.
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@Casey_Risk
For a second there I thought this whole DP was going to be over real quick. Never mind then.
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@Casey_Risk
Okay, because there’s a CC I’ll say my exact year, but before that I’ll call your attention to this post:
If scum get counterclaimed in this game, that's just going to be downright hilarious. They have literally thousands of choices.Anyway, I don't think I've seen Moozer as scum yet. He must be due for it. Let's lynch him now, gambler's fallacy be damned.VTL Moozer
I’m 80 AD BTW. probably gonna get counter claimed now.
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@ILikePie5
I think 10 year might be too specific. I'll say I'm in between 50-80 AD.
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@whiteflame
That seems like a good idea. I’ll go next, I’m in the 1st century AD.
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@Casey_Risk
Technically I was scum in that game you modded.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Well truth social does exist…
I’m just kidding.
I think it’s a little far fetched that he’s actually controlled by a liberal. Just because he’s dumb doesn’t mean I think all conservatives are dumb. MAGA morons do exist, but not really on this site.
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@Mall
No, no police officer is so called racist.A so called racist can impersonate an officer.As soon as you act not in the name of the law, you're no longer a law enforcer albeit being mislabeled as one .
I don’t understand. That has nothing to do with what I said.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Alright, but still you have got to see that Mall is not a serious person. Probably, as I said a sock puppet; potentially run by an algorithm.
I don’t think he’s a public, he’s probably just dumb or gets his media from one place.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I’m gonna be honest, I did not see that you responded to me. I thought you were the one who wasn’t responding. Lol.
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@Mall
That’s just short-sighted in my opinion. To be racist, you just have to have a racial bias in judgment, you don’t even have to act on it. Are you telling me that out of the roughly 700,000 police officers, not a single one has a slight racial bias? Every person is biased in some way.
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@Mall
I agree with that. I would add that all people always have a right to their body, but other factors in play may matter more than the right to you body. If someone tackled you to the ground, that would be a violation of your body but if they did that to save you from a shooter or something, then you still have that right, it was just better for to be tackled than to die and keep the right to your body.
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@Mall
I think that a low percentage of police officers are racist, and that an even lower percent act on that bias when enforcing the law.
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@Earth
It would probably work better for me if we started now, but yeah, I can also play then.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Sorry if that came off as rude, I was genuinely asking.
That's a video of a man dying of a drug overdose while another person happens to be kneeling on his upper spinal column.
Seems a little improbable that he died of an OD at the exact moment when he appeared to be getting suffocated, but I’ll hear you out.
The spinal column is firmly attached to the rib cage and skull and it is all but impossible to compress the windpipe with dorsal force against a flat surface. Not without breaking bones, and if you break the vertebrae or ribs that's kind of the main issue.
Can I get a source for this? Not that I don’t believe you, but I think it’s understandable that I want to hear this from a doctor or something.
Oh yes you do, Floyd asked to get out of the car and to be put on the street and any honest journalist would have watched the full array of recordings before making a mini documentary. Therefore we can conclude that either this narrator isn't a journalist or isn't honest.
I wasn’t able to find a good source for the full video, can you point me to one?
I think the point you’re trying to make is about the drugs he had in his system at the time. While the report does list the drugs he was on, and his preexisting heart condition, it actually comes to the conclusion that it was because of the police officer, “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.“
Floyd’s heart condition did probably contribute some to his death because it was larger than normal and thus needed more oxygen. However the medical examiner testified that the biggest cause of death was the police officer leaning on his neck.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
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@Mall
We have videos of this stuff. I’m not saying that the media hasn’t blown it a little out of proportion, but it has and still does happen. George Floyd and Briana Taylor did die from police brutality. You can argue that it isn’t common all you want, but don’t say that these people didn’t actually die.
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@Mall
So if I were to cut off your arm and steal it, you would be fine with it, right? You don’t have a right to your body, so this is fine.
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@WyIted
Okay, sounds decent enough. I'm in.
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@WyIted
Can you elaborate more on this? It sounds interesting but I'm still not really clear on the whole purpose.
Like, are we going after BK's Troll posts, or maybe IWRAs posts, or something different entirely.
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@Casey_Risk
Wow, that was over fast. Anyways, fun theme and fun game, thanks for hosting!
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@whiteflame
Given that you're in the PoE pool, I wanted some idea of who you think beyond you is likeliest to be scum, which I guess you don't have an answer to. So it's between Barney, Catholic and me for your pool, then?
I know that to not be lynched, I’m gonna have to point in some other direction, but I just can’t do that. If I don’t have a good scapegoat, then fine, lynch me. I’ve made my case.
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...excuse me? What words did I twist? What gaslighting did I do? Please, specifics
Well nothing really. I just think that you’ve been taking some smaller things and making them seem bigger, like with me clarifying what my role meant, and not saying it was 1x. Also you saying that it’s weird for a commuter and a bus driver to be in the game. I don’t get that.
For all I know, those are big things for you, but I would consider them smaller than you made them be.
So... you have a PoE pool, presumably with more people than just me? Who's in it and why are they there? If I'm in there, is there a reason beyond your just not liking how I'm responding to your claim?
I meant the PoE pool that we all established. Me, Barney and Catholic, I might add you for my personal one, IDK.
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@whiteflame
If anyone, you a little bit. Maybe it’s a subconscious OMGUS, but I feel kinda like your doing a bit of gaslighting and twisting my words.
That said, it’s not enough to make me VTL you, and I don’t really sus anyone else. I understand the wagon on me right now, I would probably be on it if I was on the other side.
I think it’s only fair that I at least get some time to cross examine the other people in the PoE pool first.
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@whiteflame
I don’t see too much of a problem with there being a commuter and a bus driver. It just makes you untargetable by me, but that’s not that bad.
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@whiteflame
I thought it went without saying that since it was a 1x role I hadn’t used it yet, but just to clarify, I did not use my role last round.
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I just noticed that chat GPT ended up saying this:
One night, we swap ourselves, yess, and all the actions, they miss us, go to the other player, yess!
Just wanted to clarify that it goes both ways. The person I target has the night actions used on them redirected to me and my night actions are redirected to them.
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
Sorry, forgot to clarify, I’m a 1x Self Bus Driver. One night I can switch the night actions that are done to me and one other person.
Here’s my role PM as it would have been said by Golum:
Yesss, preciousss, we remembers it well! The election of 1972, yess, Nixon, the tricksy one, he wins, oh yes, defeats poor McGovern, he does. Desegregation busing, oh, itsss a nasty business, precious, sending students to different schools to mix them up, yes, and Nixon, he hates it, calls it 'forced busing,' he does. It’s part of his cunning plan, yesss, to win over the southern folk, oh yess, those who don't like desegregation, no, no. We are the 1x Self-Bus Driver, precious! One night, we swap ourselves, yess, and all the actions, they miss us, go to the other player, yess! We must use it wisely, yess, yesss! We win with the Town, precious, we do!
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@WyIted
This stuff seems pretty on-par for you, so I don’t really sus you for it.
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@WyIted
You don't see how God allowing somebody to choose to become a serial killer would impact the happiness of others?
I think you misunderstand my argument. God has the power to make us humans feel what we want. Happiness is a chemical in the brain which god can control. If god was truly all loving, he could just make us all-happy all the time.
I know how dystopian that sounds, but like I said, happiness is happiness. God can control how much happiness we receive, so all he has to do is give us an individual space and we will always be perfectly happy irregardless of other people’s actions.
Happiness is happiness.
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