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@Discipulus_Didicit
Namely the obsession with IQ. It's creepy.
Thank you! This obsession with measuring your self worth by IQ is getting ridiculous.
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@FLRW
In this day and age only Atheists should be Judges. If they are not an Atheist they have poor reasoning ability.
Okay, that’s a poor reasoning fallacy.
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@WyIted
You might ask why this is evil. It is because it hurts my side.
Dude, you need to wake up! You have yet to even explain how this will hurt republicans and help democrats. These apply to everybody and all they do is prevent super majorities from either side. Sure, they are in response to Trump’s super majority, but they prevent one from either side. This is like saying taking away trampolines from your side in basketball only helps the other side. Well yeah, but you were the ones cheating with the trampolines. Honestly, any other congress that wasn’t so politically divided would have past this.
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@ILikePie5
I do kinda want to do that now. Which one, I’ve read a couple?
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@WyIted
Term limits would mean the passions of idiots do get taken more into account with the judges being selected
No, it’s the opposite. If an idiot appoints someone who sucks at the job, well then you can’t get rid of them for life. This way it gets cycled out more often.
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@WyIted
No, still too busy. I’ll be ready for next game though.
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@WyIted
Why are term limits so bad? Besides, that’s not the big one. The two main things are the enforced code of ethics, and the requirement that each president appoints two justices two years apart. This way, super majorities can only happen if one party has the reigns of power for a long time, which makes the court much more representative of what the American people feel.
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I just realized that I accidentally posted this in forum games. Sorry.
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@Savant
Also:
“Of the three main schools of western moral Philosophy, which do you like the most?”
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@Savant
You said he was well known for moral philosophy, so my question is:
“Do you believe that it is possible for there to be a universal set of ethics, a right and wrong without god existing, and if so, what would do you think it might look like?”
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@WyIted
Yeah, please elaborate. You realize that these restrictions would apply to everybody, so how does it only help dems?
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I know that there is 0 chance that these pass, but in theory, are you in support of them or not?
This is probably going to fall along ideological lines here, it just in case, I’m kinda curious.
I like them. I think they will help prevent this super-majority that Trump has made from happening again with either side.
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@TheUnderdog
My opinion has not really changed on this.
Imagine that you punched your sister. You are in the wrong, but what if you punched your sister because she stole your favorite toy and broke it. Well you still shouldn’t have reacted with violence, but it was provoked, and so is more understandable. If your mom came in right at that time and saw you guys fighting, she would say, “I don’t care who started it, just stop fighting!”
Israel has a right to defend itself, but not a right to be committing horrible human rights violations. Instead of attacking directly, they should take a step back and attack the root of the problem. Neither side is in the right.
In the words of my mother, “please, just stop fighting!”.
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Current Mafia:
Time Travel
Signups:
Pie - Heroic Heroes
In the Hopper:
Moozer - Middle School Mafia
On Hold:
Mharman - Gunplay Mafia
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I’m in for future games. Pretty busy now, but it does sound fun.
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@Mall
If they want to they can. I don't think most people will need it, but maybe if they were a kid and got excessively bullied or something then it might be beneficial.
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@Mall
Should therapy be tried rigorously before accepting gender transitioning?
I don’t think so, unless the trans person wants to get gender affirming care.
I had a second cousin once who’s dad was a trans man. One summer she decide that she wanted to be trans and changed her name to griffin. About a few months later, she decided to change back.
There’s no harm done in experimenting, and if the kid realizes that they made mistake, they can just change back.
If they want to get a surgery to change their sex, then that’s a much bigger commitment, so I think parental approval should be required for that, and at least a 13 age limit. If the parents want to do therapy before making the decision, that’s fine, but I don’t think it will really do anything. The only way to tell if you are really trans or not is to just try it and see how it feels.
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@WyIted
That's what every civilization for the last 10,000 years has decided and it's unreasonable and actually very arrogant to think we are the civilization that got things right and everyone for the last 10,000 years were significantly dumber than us.
Well lots of civilizations in the past supported slavery. That’s kind of a bandwagon/false appeal to authority fallacy. Just because something was done a certain way in the past doesn’t mean that it’s correct, that’s why we have something called progress. If we kept everything exactly how it was in the past then we would still just be cavemen, but we are not because we are continually trying to improve our world compared to the world we had yesterday.
That wouldn't make them inferior. The fact they are better suited for it, actually makes them superior.
I would agree that some women are better suited to being housewives and some men are better suited to be the bread earners, but it’s not fair to generalize the whole sex based on some examples. There are many women who are better suited to working, and many men better suited to staying home, and that’s why we should let them decide. Because their sex doesn’t perfectly determine what they are made for, so we should believe them when they say that they are better suited for something else.
That applies to men as well though, so it can't be sexist.
Alright, maybe it’s not sexist, but we should still let people choose what they want, right? Sometimes they are wrong about what they are made for, but this system gets it right more than just assigning roles based on gender.
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@TheUnderdog
So when it comes to moral ethics, you both take the same evidence and draw different conclusions. Interesting.
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@Best.Korea
Genuinely asking, how have you not been banned from this site yet?
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@WyIted
So women are not 2nd class citizens. They have a different role than men. It doesn’t make them lesser. I actually thing it's exist to see female roles as inferior.
I’ve heard this said a lot. I think the problem is that these roles have been “mandated” and so cannot be chose. I have an aunt who is a stay-at-home mom, and she is a feminist like any other. A man should also be able to choose to be a stay-at-home dad, and that’s fine. The point is that the people get to choose, and that’s what the church doesn’t allow.
For example. A woman staying at home and raising her kids is thought of as inferior and looked down upon by a lot of feminists.
A woman being forced to stay at home and raise her kids is thought of as inferior. The whole point of feminism is a woman’s right to choose her own life, whether that be career or home, or neither.
A homosexual has a sinful nature just like I do, but I just struggle with different things. They struggle to not look at men lustfully and I struggle with being a dick.
So you’re saying that being gay is a choice, not something you’re born as? I’ve never understood this. I was born straight, why can’t someone else be born gay? It’s in my DNA to be attracted to women, so why can’t it be in the DNA of someone else to be attracted to men?
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@Stephen
There are some women in the Old Testamant that appear to have served prominent roles as leaders and prophets. Indeed women play a significant part in the story in all periods. Miriam springs to mind as does Deborah who appears as prophet and a judge.In Corinthians Paul though seems to relegate women to second class citizens that "should take their teachings from their husbands and be silent in church", saying it is "disgraceful" for them to do otherwise
This is the kind of contradiction that makes me skeptical of Christianity. I don’t think it’s right to say “no, women can be equal in the Bible. Look at Marian for example.” When it also clearly says in Paul that women are made to be servants. You can’t really pick and choose with the word of god, you have to take it as a whole.
The bible CLEARLY states that homosexuals should be put to death, are you suggesting that Christians should throw them off a high rise building with gods blessing and put it all down to simply doing "the lords work" as does that barbaric , vile 7th century ideology known to us as Islam still does to this day?
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard that this was in the Bible, so a cite would be nice, but I believe you. In that case, then Ideally this leads the Christians to see that their god can’t be all-loving and sanction this, but once people dig in their heels it’s very hard to get them to change.
If I did see any Christian fundamentalist doing this, I would obviously call 911 and try to stop it, and I would be very mad at them, (almost to the point of hate), but I would still understand their logic and respect it more than a liberal church.
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@zedvictor4
Who wrote the Bible.Is the modern Bible likely to be the word of an all knowing GOD?Of course not.
Well yeah, at some point they should take all of this to mean that maybe their god doesn’t exist, but for this thread I’m assuming that I can’t change anyone’s mind.
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@Swagnarok
The term "gay person" only exists within the context of homosexual actions. It's not analogous to ethnicity or sex, as you are, say, black or a woman irrespective of your actions.
I still don’t get Christian’s that defend homosexuality, because the Bible pretty clearly states that being gay is a sin.
Also, why would you say that being gay is not a trait that you are born with. You were born straight I presume, so then why can’t someone be born gay? That’s how I’m interpreting what you said, correct me if I’m wrong.
But in any case, unequal roles for a temporary span do not suggest or imply the eternal souls of men and women are of unequal value.
Okay, but you can’t deny that there are some Christians who teach that women can be any role that they want. This is strictly against the Bible, which according to them is the word of god, so I just can’t understand these people.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Not really. You did assume that Tidy Craft did something out of a reasoning you just came up with. I didn’t assume that, I saw you do that.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Yes, I give people the benifet of the doubt rather than make snap judgments just because they have different political ideologies than me.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
My full quote was “For all we know Tidy just put “woman” there for no reason”.
I just said that it was a possibility.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Tidycraft is one of those women who did very little with her life so she despises women who have careers and try to participate in events outside the home.
Dude, even I think that this is ridiculous. For all we know Tidy just put “woman” there for no reason. You’ve got to stop making snap judgements about people who are on the other side of the political spectrum from you.
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In short, If I believed that there was an all powerful being that created absolute moral truths, then I would do exactly as the being said to the best of my ability.
This is why I don’t understand Christian churches that accept gay people and treat women as equals. Not that those are bad things, but if you believe that the Bible is the word of god, then you should follow its teachings.
I hate Christian’s who demean women and gays, but I respect them more than I do liberal Christians.
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Well it’s pretty clear by now to anyone watching this speech that he has not changed one bit.
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@Best.Korea
I get that you’re trolling, but please stop. You’re creating a straw man that people are going to point to and use against the rest of us.
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@IlDiavolo
I haven’t been watching the RNC so far, but I really hope that you’re right.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So does murder, and when people arrest you for reporting murder rather than investigating murder reports that means there is something very wrong with the system.
My point was that it’s not actually election fraud happening, and so even though it looks like it, it doesn’t affect the election, because falsely registered voters don’t end up voting in their state.
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I know you said that you’re done with this conversation, but you said a few things that I wanted to respond to, so I’ll keep it short.
The other said that there were 9 mil as opposed to 4 mil, but this is not what is going on.
No, it’s 4 mil as opposed to 9 mil. The 9,000,000 number wasn’t even a real number, it was a Facebook poll about how many people said they were registered voters in Arizona. The real number is closer to 4 mil with a total pop of 7 mil.
Yes, this does NOT prove voter fraud or even that Biden won due to it, BUT it does show inconsistencies with the voter rolls and the law needs to be followed or amended. This stuff is what gives people hesitation to say the election was real.
These inconsistencies are actually very common in elections. Many people move or die and don’t report it. This stuff happens all the time and you are taking it out of context to support your claim.
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@DavidAZZ
That’s not even true, and if it was, there would still be no guarantee that it was democrats. You took untrue stats and misrepresented them to support your untrue claim.
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@DavidAZZ
I agree, but the moderation that took it seriously was involved in the report. I think the best course of action is just to wait for Whiteflame to get off of work and look at it then.
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@whiteflame
He’s trolling, dude.
Yeah, but there was a real report of doxing, so I think that should be taken at least somewhat seriously.
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@Barney
@whiteflame
isn't Doxing against the rules here?Reported.I am the elected president of this site. There is no greater authority than me. I have decided to investigate your report and have found it to be baseless and consider this a warning as I will do everything in my authority as site president to punish you, should you continue to make false reports
There is no way this should be allowed. He can't have authority over a doxing claim reported at him, right?
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@Mall
Yeah, legally Minors shouldn't be able to get a sex changing surgery without parental permission. They can change their gender all they want, and I'm a-ok with that, but sex changing surgery is a big decision. I don't really agree with all the people who say you are homophobic just for not letting minors get gender affirming care. It's a position I don't agree with, but I understand it.
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@SocraticGregarian96
That is the one reason that makes me respect the position of anyone who doesn’t like LGBTQ people.
If I believed in an all powerful creator who set right and wrong, I would do what he said.
Your definitely wrong, but I see how you think you’re right.
As for the “shoving it in my face” thing, everyone likes to express their beliefs and say it to everyone. You probably have lots of things that you feel strongly about, so you tell other people and you make your opinions heard. That’s what LGBTQ people are doing.
You can’t get mad at them just for saying what they believe in loudly. Everyone does this and you are singling out tithe voices you don’t like and calling them out.
I will make one final mention as to the religious argument though. Your Christian god is supposed to love everyone equally, right? So then why does he seem to hate being gay? If he hates homosexuality, then by extension he hates gay people too. It’s like saying I hate that some people are black, but I don’t hate black people.
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@WyIted
Vance literally used "white trash" in the book. Also, Roosevelt wasn't even critizinging him for that.
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@SocraticGregarian96
So what do they stand for?
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@WyIted
How did he say anything against poor people? I do agree with him about the weasel thing but that’s basically required if you’re going to be a politician these days.
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As I interpret it, the constitutional role of the VP is to stand behind the president and win over some group that they identify with.
As our countries first, John Adams once famously said, "[it is] the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived."
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In case you haven’t heard yet he picked Sen. J.D. Vance of Ohio. I don’t have much of an opinion on this, but I thought some people might. Honestly, I have barely heard of this guy before.
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@DavidAZZ
Well obviously they need parental permission too. Minors can legally do lots of bad things for them, but they need parental permission, so that brings the numbers way down.
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@Mall
I think they can set their own gender. If they want to biologically change it, I think maybe a 13-16 age limit is okay. They are kids who sometimes make bad choices, so I'm not completely against some sort of age restriction.
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@WyIted
I actually haven't taken a real IQ test in person. I haven't seen a lot of studies about the queendom one, but I have seens lots about how online IQ tests in general are not as accurate as in person ones, so I'm naturally a little sceptical of online tests.
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