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@WyIted
I just took it and got 134, but like I said, it's not that good of an IQ test, specifically that is can give over inflated scores. I'm not sure how to post a picture or anything, but I do have a screenshot. This Link might work also.
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@DavidAZZ
Surprisingly, the God argument is the only one that I respect the position of.
If I believed in an all knowing and all powerful creator, I would probably obey what they said.
As for the shoving of it down your throat, just ignore it! It doesn’t hurt you in any way to be around Trans and Gay people, so why do you have a problem with them expressing their beliefs?
You probably have some beliefs that you like to share, and people don’t get mad at you for that, so let them be who they want to be and say what they want to say. If they want to be flamboyant and rainbowy, then let them.
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@WyIted
I guess, it you can’t go bragging about your IQ if you still haven’t taken a real test.
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@WyIted
I meant the Mensa in person test. No online IQ test is even that good. They can approximate, but if you want a real score you should do it in person.
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@WyIted
Let me guess, the Mensa one isn’t accurate because you got a score you didn’t like on it.
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@TheUnderdog
Here a source for Australia. If you need more, I’m happy to provide.
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@TheUnderdog
Okay fine, it didn’t work in Sweden, but it did work in Austria, New Zealand, The United Kingdom, Canada, Japan etc.
The evidence shows it works more then it doesn’t. But even if there was a good chance it didn’t work, the measures can’t hurt right?
The biggest problem they could cause was making some impatient people mad, so why not try?
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@TheUnderdog
but they also had comparably low homicide rates before their strict gun laws, so it's not fair to say less guns leads to a less homicide.
But the gun homicide rates went significantly down when the measures were implemented. You can’t deny that.
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@Owen_T
To get a real one, you should take a Mensa test in person. Any of the online ones aren’t real, but there is one on the Mensa website that can closely predict your IQ.
You also might just be making fun of the people on this site who brag about their IQ, which in that case is very funny.
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@WyIted
I glanced over that, but your definition also included some other things that I would include in free speech. Willfully spreading misinformation is already banned, right? So if so, I’m still voting Nay.
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@WyIted
Gonna have to go Nay For this one. I support free speech on social media unless it is misinformation or is very extreme toxic cyber bullying. As long as no one is actively conspiring to assassinate Trump on this cite, they have freedom to criticize him.
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@TheUnderdog
@WyIted
What does this mean?
It means longer and better background checks.
Automatic weapons are already heavily regulated.
But I would prefer if they were regulated more. In my world, I would have them basically illegal for citizens expect in some situations.
So now the government is gonna go door to door to check to see if you have a safe and are using it properly.
No, there will be legal repercussions for not keeping it properly safe, and you will be legally responsible if someone in your house steals it and uses it to cause a shooting. That one is already starting to happen, which is nice.
And where is the evidence that it would actually reduce the homicide rate?
Almost every other country with better regulation has lower gun violence rates, and they significantly dropped after the policies were implemented.
Australia for example has a 28 day waiting period and much deeper background checks. They also have compulsory buybacks for full auto weapons, and best of all, they require you to be licensed to even carry a gun, especially concealed carry and bigger guns.
From 1995 to 2006 (when these laws were put into place) the gun violence rate has dropped by 59% and suicides involving guns have dropped by 65%. Also, they have had ZERO mass shootings since. This is very significant.
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@ILikePie5
The only reason why you think 0.0127% is a problem is because the media fails to recount the thousands of instances where guns have saved lives.
You’re telling me that guns have saved more than 50,000 lives per year? Because if not, then it’s a problem.
Over half of the 50k are due to suicide and gang violence. You can’t seriously be arguing that 0.0127% is significant enough to repeal the Second Amendment and ban guns
Show me these statistics. Also, gang violence gun killings can be prevented by the measures I’m proposing.
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@TheUnderdog
Maybe 3-6 days longer for background checks.
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@TheUnderdog
Be specific. "More extensive" is too general.
Just longer background checks and more resources and money towards illegal gun dealers.
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@TheUnderdog
More extensive background checks, restrictions on bigger and fully automatic weapons, and maki bug gun owners more responsible for keeping their guns locked and safe. That one especially matters now because apparently the shooter stole his dad’s gun.
Also more enforcement on illegal weapon dealers.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
So by that logic you want Clinton whacked too?
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@Tidycraft
Look, I never said that those issues didn’t matter. They all matter. I’m in favor of action to combat any issues that are killing people. They’re not really mutually exclusive.
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@Tidycraft
No one thinks it’s possible to get to zero gun violence. That’s plain impossible. The point is that we are trying to reach something better. I’ll sleep better at night when I know that we are at least working toward better gun violence.
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@Tidycraft
How many people would you say is acceptable to die in America every year where you can sleep at night? Last I checked there were around 350 million Americans and millions of Americans die every year from non gun sources.
You’re basically saying that just because lots of people die, that means we shouldn’t try to do anything about it.
The point is, this is a solvable problem, and so we should set out to solve it. I don’t see any problem with that.
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@ILikePie5
I already mentioned that it’s 50k people annually
Listen to that. 50,000 people are killed by gun violence each year! For context, about 30,000 to 60,000 people died in the American Revolutionary War. I know the times were different, and a lot less people were alive, but that number is still way to big. This is a huge problem that we need to solve.
It’s also noteworthy that you didn’t answer my question. What restrictions? Or are you just going to be vague like all the politicians
I didn’t think I needed to clarify, but I will. It’s pretty simple. Longer background checks, and limits on fully automatic weapons.
You mentioned illegal guns by saying that those are a problem that can’t be fixed, but that’s actually one of my biggest things. A crack-down on illegal gun dealers would be the best thing that can be done really.
I know that guns can be used for good things, but the problem is that they can be so easily used for bad things also.
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@ILikePie5
First of all, where did you see that he stole the gun, because I haven’t seen that yet. Second of all, it’s a problem that it affects anyone really. It only affects a fraction of a percent, but when we have so many people living in America, that’s too much. Some of it is unavoidable, but most of it is a problem that can be solved.
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@ILikePie5
Of course not, that ridiculous! The restrictions will be made much stricter, and anyone who doesn’t meet those requirements will be able to keep their guns. It’s just for getting new guns.
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@WyIted
You might think they are rioters, but Trump sure doesn’t.
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@WyIted
Have you even watched a Trump rally?
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@FLRW
I though that was Kanye lol.
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Okay, this is dumb, but isn’t it a little weird that Lincoln’s assassin, Kennedy’s assassin, and Trump’s would be assassin all went by their middle name too?
John Wilkes Booth
Lee Harvey Oswald
Thomas Mathew Crooks
I can’t remember who shot Garfield and McKinnley, but either way, I think that’s kinda interesting.
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I hear a lot of people saying that he was stopping a dictator, and that he was a patriot.
I’ll remind you, that is exactly what republicans are saying about the January 6th rioters.
You are not different just because “I’m right”.
We are no better than them if we do this stuff and say it was to protect democracy.
If anything, this should be a wake-up call about how much we have invested in this election, and how much we have blown things way out of proportion.
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@WyIted
Even as he was escorted to safety behind the bulletproof glass of the limousine, Trump made one final defiant gesture. He pumped his fists in the air once more, choosing to prioritize the reassurance of the public over his own safety, symbolizing his unwavering commitment to the nation’s values and the fight for our way of life.
It’s so brave of him to risk his life by standing once the shooter was dead.
Anyways, yeah I don’t disagree. It sure doesn’t make me want to vote for him though. I don’t really think he’s a hero for pumping his fist though.
A little brave, yes. Someone who knows the importance of a good look, yes. A hero? Hell no. He took a bullet that barely touched him. I’m not saying that he should have been killed, but it doesn’t mean anything to me what he did in the aftermath of the shooting.
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@SocraticGregarian96
"Maybe Republicans are right. We need more guns in America, especially at Trump rallies.” Glad the Dems are FINALLY waking up. We as Americans need to protect ourselves from looneys like this!
This is what you’re taking away from the shooting? If anything, this says there should be more gun control. If we give everyone a gun, then even if you defend yourself, everyone gets hurt, or is in danger. Less guns = less shootings. The math isn’t that hard.
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I still wouldn’t rule out just some random crackpot who didn’t care about politics though. If what we are told about the JFK assassination is true, it was mostly just because Oswald wasn’t super right in the head.
Not likely, but possible.
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Turn out they identified the gunman, and now I’m confused.
He was a registered republican named Thomas Mathew Crooks, but he donated 15$ to a democrat PAC on the day Biden was sworn in.
I’d say it Isn’t a stretch to say this was still politically motivated, but not a fringe leftist as I thought.
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@Tidycraft
Lol, if American's idea of preserving democracy includes assassinations, then it has already lost it.
Exactly what I’m saying. I hate him, but he deserves a democratic process, or we’re not better than him.
If he goes further then that, then we have a problem, but I don’t think that’s happened yet.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Sorry, responding to this:
You are not conceding that Trump told a BIG LIE in an attempt to steal the last election. That’s problematic and indicates a lack of credibility because you won’t acknowledge reality.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Oh, it totally is, but that’s not enough for me to say he’ll be the next hitler or something.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Maybe I’m too optimistic, and I formally give you “I told you so” rights if this whole thing goes down the tube, but I have faith in our government system. I’m not saying it’s not a possibility, but until it becomes at least clear-ish that we have a revolution on our hands, I don’t think anyone should be killed.
Will Trump expand the powers of the president, yes. Will he throw an even bigger hissy fit if he loses, yes. Will he at least try legally to get a third term, probably. But undermine democracy? There is a chance he’ll try, but a much lower one that he will succeed.
That’s my opinion anyways.
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@TheUnderdog
The problem here is that we don’t have complete proof of anything. If I was 80% sure that he would be a dictator, then fine, shoot him. But I don’t have that much confidence.
But to compare someone everyone likes (Lincoln) to someone only some people like (Trump) is bad arguing.
John Wilkes Booth didn’t like Lincoln. The entire south didn’t like Lincoln. He even had critics in the north. The point is, you can’t take justice into your own hands.
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@sadolite
If you cant see it, you never will.
But I could if you just showed me!
Look, I can tell what is happening, because I used to be in your situation. I was afraid of what is different from me, and so I hated it. I couldn’t quantify me hatred into words, because if I did it would be so obvious to everyone else, including me, that there was no good reason for my hatred.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think I am.
If you have just one or two minutes to spare, I ask you to please just think on this for a little. You don’t have to change your mind or anything, but just think about it for a little. Please.
Also, I could be totally wrong and you do have a good reason, so if that is the case, please just share it?!
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@WyIted
It was probably down fringe leftist. Most people on the left are going to come out and say this was horrible, including me.
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@TheUnderdog
First of all, Trump has been trying very hard to distance himself from the project. That is probably just smart politics, but I don’t think he will go all the way.
Second, John Wilkes Booth thought that he was taking down a dictator also. But Lincoln was a democratically elected president who was going to step down.
Point is, it’s not one persons job to decide who gets to rule. It’s the majorities job, and that’s what is going to happen this November. No matter what Trump decides to do with his four years (and maybe more), he will have been democratically elected. If he does attempt to become a dictator, we have safeguards in place for this, but we have a duty to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Otherwise, we become the dictators taking democracy into our own hands.
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@TheUnderdog
@IwantRooseveltagain
I don’t think Trump will end up being that bad. He will try to hold on to power, but the end of our democracy? No.
If I could have killed Hitler, yes easy choice, but I know the outcome in that scenario. I don’t think Trump is going to be that bad when he wins.
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@sadolite
Okay, sorry about that one. You seriously gave off vibes that made me think you were a bigot, but you never said that, so sorry for the misunderstanding.
Let’s humor you for a second and say that I am a big idiot and I can’t see the obvious reasons. In that case, could you tell them to me? I’m genuinely curious. I like to hear what everyone has to say.
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Obviously this is horrible. I truly despise Trump but by no means does he deserve to die. If anyone is saying that they wish he had died then they are just too wrapped up in politics to realize that this is a human life on the line.
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@WyIted
How did you have a near death experience?
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@sadolite
Everyone else in this thread actually provides reasoning and stuff, yet you are just a complete bigot. You have nothing to defend yourself, and you couldn’t come up with any if your life depended on it. You need to re-examine your beliefs.
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@WyIted
It increases your chances of suicide, aids, unhappiness and being in an abusive relationship
First of all, I kinda want to see where you got the last one. Second, those are taken out of context. Just being trans increases your risk of depression and by extension suicide, but these are because so many people are bigoted towards the community, and sometimes eve. Their own family won’t accept them. It’s all taken out of context. This is a problem that can be solved, and not one that is inherent to being LGBTQ+.
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@WyIted
Yes, which is why we ban children from doing it.
Ridding in a car is just a dangerous, and children aren’t banned from that.
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@WyIted
How is changing your sex harmful?
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