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@Swagnarok
Gay men are 12x more likely than straight men to use amphetamines, 9.5x more likely to use heroin, and solid 25% of gay and transgender Americans are alcoholic.
This statistic doesn’t necessarily support your position. First of all, being Gay is completely Independent of using substances. You can be can and not so drugs or drink alcohol. Therefore, you shouldn’t be opposed to all LGBTQ people, you should be opposed to LGBTQ people who do drugs and are alcoholic. Second, there isn’t only one explanation for these stats. Many LGBTQ people go through hard times not being accepted by their loved ones and families, and many suffer from depression and anxiety. These often lead to drugs and alcohol to cope. You should be opposed to drugs, not LGBTQ people if you look at the statistics.
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@sadolite
I asked you to elaborate because you didn’t actually provide any reasoning. You can’t defend a position if your only reason is “common sense”. I want to debate you a little about this, so please provide something can debate with.
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@sadolite
I think the reason some if not the majority of people hate the LGBTQ community is so self evident in so many ways one would have to choose to be willfully intellectually dishonest and blind to not see why.
could you elaborate?
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I just don’t really get it. Why do some people have a problem with other people changing their gender, or being gay? It’s not your business. I’m genuinely curious if there is a half-decent explanation other than just “they’re retarded”.
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@Double_R
You assumed that the average American cares about real issues.
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@ILikePie5
Majority of it was real, I don’t deny that. She was just calling out a few rare ones that actually were fake, and now everyone thinks she says that all of them are fake.
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@ILikePie5
She called out a few that actually we're fakes, and never said or implied anything about a conspiracy. Most of her rhetoric has been about people taking cheap-shots at Biden by talking about personal issues, and not matters of substance.
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@ILikePie5
But but I thought it was a right wing conspiracy theory and a bunch of cheapfakes
Who was even saying this? I never heard anyone say this.
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@Double_R
You have more confidence in the intelligence of the average American voter than I do.
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@Owen_T
This is getting ridiculous. I’m starting to change my mind about him. There is not way this guy is winning the election.
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@prefix
My best attempt at a definition is that it is a system by which the government extinguishes the personal sense of self for a greater sense of community. They also get rid of any people who don’t fit that sense of community, aka Jews.
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@Savant
I think I might keep the first bomb. I would exhaust all other options first though, like I would make absolutely sure that the Japanese knew that we were going to drop it, and that it was real, and give them time to surrender. If they still say no, then it’s dropping the bomb, or launching a ground invasion which both would have killed about the same amount of people.
The second bomb was a definitely un called for though.
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@Casey_Risk
I might not be super active for the first DP, but otherwise I’m /in.
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@Tidycraft
The other party always want to remove their enemy in power. The problem is that lots of democrats want Biden to not be the nominee for their party.
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@Best.Korea
Okay, I think I understand your argument now, but it still doesn't actually PROVE anything, and you're not really understanding anything I say, so I guess I give up.
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@Best.Korea
If I go and steal something from the store, I’m not motivated by the feeling it gives me, (if so even get that feeling) I’m motivated by wanting that thing.
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@Best.Korea
That’s where the circular reasoning comes in. There are many counter premises to that, but you use the circular reasoning to say that there are not.
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@Best.Korea
Explain premise 2 please?
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@Best.Korea
Explain to me how it’s a strawman. I fell like your just trying to dodge me.
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@Best.Korea
Let’s take a closer look at your argument. My best attempt to steel man it goes something like this:
Premise 1: All pleasure comes from Satan
Premise 2: People fell good doing bad things sometimes
Conclusion: Satan makes people feel good doing bad things, and thus is real.
It looks okay on the surface, but if you dissect it, you find that Premise 1 relies on another premise to be true, so your argument really goes something like this
Premise 0: Satan is real
Premise 1: All pleasure comes from Satan
Premise 2: People fell good doing bad things sometimes
Conclusion: Satan makes people feel good doing bad things, and thus is real.
As you can see, it’s circular reasoning. Satan jar real because Satan is real.
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@Best.Korea
But that's circular reasoning. Your saying Satan is real because Satan is real. If Satan isn't real, then It is possible to get pleasure from elsewhere.
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@Best.Korea
Getting pleasure for doing bad things is a proof that Satan exists and rewards people for sin.
People can get pleasure from things that aren’t Satan too. This proves nothing.
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@WyIted
Only as big as needed to subvert leftism
That’s just about the most stereotypical WyIted thing to say.
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@Best.Korea
I follow the pleasure given to me by Satan. I dont care about whats right or wrong.
Sure, but my point was that your argument hinged on people feeling good doing bad things. People can be motivated by the devil to do bad things when they know they are wrong, but people can be motivated by other things that make them do bad things they know are wrong. This doesn’t prove anything.
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@Best.Korea
People are motivated by much more than just doing the right thing.
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@TheUnderdog
Doctors have differing opinions. The problem with your correlation is that a sleeping person is alive. They are living and breathing, and they have had consciousness previously. A Zygote is not alive. It will become alive, and become a human, but it’s not there yet. It’s just a jumble of cells that you claim has more rights than a living breathing human woman.
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@Best.Korea
Gee, maybe this is all pointing in the direction that maybe Satan isn’t real?
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@TheUnderdog
I guess that I just kinda assumed that most people didn’t use that argument because of its complete lack of evidence.
A zygote does not have consciousness, or any of the traits that make a human a human, so it is not living.
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@TheUnderdog
But that’s besides the point. You are still depriving a possible human being of life. The logic follows that if women can’t have abortion, then men have to make sure that every time they cum it’s into a women for the purpose of making a baby.
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@WyIted
This just in, some democrats have said limited immunity means full immunity and have misinterpreted an easy to answer supreme court decision.
There are stupid democrats and there are stupid republicans. You can’t judge either side by it’s worst.
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@MarkWebberFan2
I think you should stand up for yourself a little. Healthy relationships stem from both people involved being equal, and being open. Your partner may not know that you need something. I know it sounds so sappy, but communication really is key.
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@IlDiavolo
However, Biden having dementia is undeniable. Everyone saw it live, and the whole media recognized it. You're the only fool that can't see it.
Some people just aren't good at public speaking. Biden is one of them. This has nothing to do with him being demented or not. If there is actual medical evidence that he's not at 100% I'll take a look at it, but so far all I see are anecdotal things that people are taking as proof.
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@IlDiavolo
You can’t just make claims like that based on what a seer said. This is so stupid. Im not saying that you’re objectively wrong, I just can’t believe it until I see sufficient evidence, and I think you should do the same.
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@IlDiavolo
Do you have any actual evidence to back this up? I'm not dismissing your opinion, but I can't believe it if there isn't enough evidence other than "he can't possibly do it himself!".
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@Tidycraft
But the stuff being taken down wasn’t anti government. It was advocating for ways to treat COVID that did not work and would absolutely harm you if you tried them. Impressionable people often see that and take it as fact. I don’t agree with the government intervention, but it’s not as bad as you make it out to be.
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@Tidycraft
I don’t think they should have done that, it their actions are being made mountains out of molehills.
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@Tidycraft
This is blowing the smallest thing way out of proportion. We don’t live in the USSR just because the Biden administration recommended that misinformation be taken down from social media cites. The posts were not against their political views, they were just not true and recommended that people do harmful medical treatments to cure things. They didn’t actually censor anything, and it was all for the public good.
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@Tidycraft
Where are the proven facts that Biden has censored information. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, I just haven’t seen it yet.
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@Sidewalker
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@Tidycraft
I see it a different way. Why do you think Americans are okay with a Racist, Sexist, Liar and possible Rapist who thinks he can do whatever he wants?
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@Tidycraft
Because A: Biden has proven that he can do the job. If he wasn’t the incumbent, then I might be worried, but he’s proven that he’s mentally fit to do the job.
And B: Biden isn’t censoring anything. He has nothing to do with social media companies blocking people.
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@WyIted
I think both of our past presidents haven’t done great jobs with the economy, but that’s also not my number 1 issue. They both suck when it comes to the economy, but Trump is for almost everything I’m against, and Biden is a good not-Trump candidate. I’ll take anyone besides Trump, and Biden is good at that.
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@ILikePie5
That is true, but his COVID response was horrible in my opinion, so I hold him accountable for some of that, but not all. I do blame Biden for some of the inflation in his term, but Trump takes a role in that too. Plus, Biden has gotten Inflation down with the soft landing that the fed wanted. It was beyond that even, a beautiful landing in my opinion, so he gets some points for that in my tally. Really, it’s both of their faults.
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@Tidycraft
You kinda missed the point of my hypothetical. The state of the economy is up to some debate, but generally you can differentiate between a good one and a bad one, and especially a best one.
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@Tidycraft
I don’t dispute that both people lied, it’s just that Trump lied more often, and more deliberately. Many of the times Biden did it he had if figures wrong and corrected himself later. The inflation one was pretty bad though. The really villain here is CNN for not having any fact-checking.
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