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@disgusted
I'm just saying....
...you have literally made being a hater your identity.
You really shouldn't be that shocked.
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@disgusted
You just called me a wanker and insulted what you think are my holy books.
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@SkepticalOne
Since you are so brave to admit this...
I was homeless for 8 years.
I never would have gotten out of it without help. I didn't really know any different either. I just figured that was where I was going to be until I died. I did not have the benefit of a disciplined upbringing that gave me life skills.
I am very grateful to be given a chance to integrate with society when before it was very alien to me.
Thankfully I cared about what was right, and that helped me grow out of the habits and ways of thinking that didn't really serve me.
Now I am in a very different situation, and don't make use of government assistance.
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@disgusted
Definition of disgust courtesy of Merriam-webster
"To provoke to loathing, repugnance, or aversion : be offensive to"
As you are disgusted, you can alter this from "to provoke" to "provoked"
Being a hater is literally built into your identity.
But whatever, I love you anyway.
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@disgusted
Yeah doood, you are totally a hater.
I love you anyway.
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What is worse, Trump's rhetoric or the media's version of Trump's rhetoric?
Really though, even though the media really does twist and pervert everything Trump says, I have to admit that he still may be the greatest shit talker to take office in my lifetime. Truly the WWE candidate.
When he was running, I said "Now this guy should get in office, he will single handidly revitalize the satire industry."
I was wrong though, Donald Trump is way more entertaining than the people who make fun of him. In fact, the satire industry is worse now than it ever has been.
*sniffles*
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"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."
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@BrutalTruth
I only accept The Truth as being God.
This is my God.
Also, your God, whether or not you believe it.
But if you are saying that you believe The Truth exists, but deny that it is God you fulfil the scripture that reads...
"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things."
So integral is this understanding that God is The Truth that it is even written...
"they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
God is literally The Truth, doood
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The entirety of what Christians call The Old Testament was not written after the Babylonian exhile.
What are these scriptures used for today? They are used for education. They were certainly used for this purpose back in the day as well.
The Jews were intended to be a nation of priests. The Persians recognized this enough to send them back after womping the Babylonians, and even under Greek and Roman occupation the land of Israel was pretty much a temple state/clericocracy.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that some atheists might be looking for TRUE RELIGION.
Unfortunately, they are going to get a lot of mixed messages because... as St. Symeon the Theologian once said, you hear the name "Jesus" everywhere.
It must be pretty difficult trying to find out what it is all about.
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Trying to convince people that you are a real Christian is not a very Christian thing to do.
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@BrutalTruth
Atheists don't believe in Truth.
You don't know that because you don't know what God is.
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@BrutalTruth
The One True God is The Supreme and Ultimate Reality.
It makes every bit of good sense to believe this exists. It is nonsensical to believe that this God doesn't exist, and really just as nonsensical to be on the fence about it.
The truth of the matter is that most atheists don't really understand what their position means because they don't really understand what God means. An atheist nearly universally has a superstitious conception of God, which is why they can't accept God's existence.
But believing that God exists is simply a matter ofnaccepting God for being God, and this is done with The Spirit of Truth tgat activates it.
The Ultimate Reality, God the Father
The Most Perfect Image of God, The Word of God, God The Son
And
The Spirit of Truth, The Holy Ghost, The Holy Spirit.
And that is one of the purposes of The Trinity.
To believe God, you have to accept it as true that God is what God is.
The Truth.
If your God is anything other than The Truth, it is not God, but a god, and believers of The True God have been refuting gods for thousands of years now.
Atheism towards God is actually the denial of Truth and reality, which is why it is an indefensible position.
There is nothing reasonable about denying God, and it is my hope that you eventually come to see that and feel confident about getting off the fence.
Your name is Brutal Truth. Well, here is your good new... The Truth is God.
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@Stephen
I'm not interested in arguing scripture with you. You don't respect it.
I charge before the Lord that you...
"strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers."
The scriptures also instruct me...
"foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will."
And truly, you oppose yourself. You are captive in the snare of the devil.
So what can I do? I pray that God lead you into repentance and acknowledgment of The Truth so that you my be liberated from these bonds.
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@ethang5
IF YOU WANT TO STOP ABORTION, BECOME LIBERALS
Bwahahahaha!
There is only one solution....
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Maybe politics is death.
Kill these people over these people.
No! Kill these people over THESE people!
Decisions decisions.
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@Stephen
I can believe you don't know what you are doing. It would be better for you if you accepted rebuke.
"Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."
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@Stephen
"And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
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@Stephen
Why didn't Jesus simply eradicate leprosy instead of just curing a few lepers?
Because that isn't what happened.
Why didn't Jesus simply turn the Earth into a cotton candy gumdrop land where bullets make people giggle, and there are puppies and kitties in every cloud?
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"At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, and said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses."
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@Stephen
You reject anything contrary to your conclusions, so I have determined that answering your questions serves no purpose but to stir up fruitless argumentation.
You, after all, already know.
You, after all, already know.
So what can I say? What you believe is not what the church teaches.
And what you are doing may overthrow the faith of some, even children, who don't know better.
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@3RU7AL
The word "noumenon" implies that God exists as a mental construct.
I am not talking about god, I am talking about God. They are distinct concepts.
The Ultimate Reality is not contingent on thought. It is The Truth. This is God.
You admit that reality exists by definition. Very good. You already know then that God exists by definition, and you can know that without knowing God.
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"I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and thatyour joy might be full. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and thatyour fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. These things I command you, that ye love one another.
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. He that hateth me hateth my Father also. If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning."
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There should not be any doubt that Abraham was about to sacrifice his son.
But he didn't.
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@Stephen
You hate the scriptures, you hate Jesus, you hate Christianity, you hate Christians.
Well, I still love you, and wish for you to come to repentance and acknowledgment of The Truth.
Well, I still love you, and wish for you to come to repentance and acknowledgment of The Truth.
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@secularmerlin
Some reality likely exists?
If there is some reality, There must be Ultimate Reality.
You can be more sure of God's existing than anything.
But you can't even say t gr at reality exists, yet here you are, an existent being. How ridiculous.
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@secularmerlin
You can't even admit that reality as it truly is exists.
You can't do it because for you to say that exists is to say God exists.
I understand that if you admitted The Truth, you couldn't play your character anymore.
Well, God is a wizard slayer, oh fool of fools.
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When I hear socialism I think National Socialist and Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
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Texas is the only state in the union that has its act together.
Or as Texans call The United States... Texas and its 49 bitches.
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MSNBC is as far to the left as Alex Jones is to the right.
And on that note, political activism isn't news. Maybe it's all fake news.
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@secularmerlin
Here is an accurate statement you can make about it...
GOD EXISTS
You can at least admit that...
...unless you're a fool.
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Will DART forever be in the shadow of DDO?
Or will it forge its own destiny?
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@secularmerlin
If I make accurate statements about it you will just dismiss it in your invincible ignorance.
See, you can't even admit The Ultimate Reality exists. You can't even confess the one God that absolutely must exist.
Reality As it Truly Is.
And this pride will be your downfall, because you have adopted an indefensible position. It would be better for you to repent from your wickedness and admit The Truth.
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@Stephen
Really? Report me? All these times you called me a clown and I never reported you.
Still won't.
I didn't say anything reportable though.
The way you crusade though, you might as well be consenting to us Christians being put into mental hospitals and tortured to death while sadists say things like..
"I thank God, who I do not believe, for allowing me to execute every kind of evil in my heart that I desire."
Which is the kind of things Soviet torturers used to say to the millions who were killed in the campaign against the church.
And they do this kind of thing in every single country that is oppressed by godless commies.
You are working for them even if you don't know it.
And I sincerely wish that you repent and confess The Truth, because I love you, and don't wish hell on you.
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@secularmerlin
Reality as it appears to be
Vs
Reality as it actually is
The Ultimate Reality.
I don't need to prove this exists, your an idiot if you say it doesn't.
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@secularmerlin
You can't even admit that The Ultimate Reality exists when it by the nature of its being is not only existent, but the realest there is.
What more can be said? You condemn yourself. I think this is really stupid.
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@secularmerlin
The Truth is closer than your breath. Than your blood.
If something is true, it is because The Truth is in it.
If The Truth is not in something, it doesn't exist. It is unreality.
The Ultimate Reality. That which is ultimately real.
How is it that you don't understand?
Maybe you don't want to. Maybe you prefer the darkness to the light. Maybe you have been bribed away by the lusts of your mind and flesh. We have talked at great length over a long time now, there is no amount of me explaining things further that will help you.
You need to realize, otherwise we aren't even talking about the same thing. I grow weary of you playing stupid.
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@EtrnlVw
Ultimate reality means a great deal to atheists until they make the connection between this and God, because after that, theophobia takes hold and they have to fight it on principle. After that, they tend to play stupid. Unless they are honest, and in that case they repent.
Believe me, if an atheist thought they could use ultimate reality as an argument against God, they would.
Rather than defend people for using straw men, why don't you correct them? If you are really trying to help, why are you arguing with me in front of them instead of PMing me?
The atheist professes the position that they don't believe in truth. If they are offended at this reality, it is because even they know this is stupid, and they should abandon this superstitious identity.
There is at least One God we should all be able to agree on. The Truth. If you can't accept this God, you condemn yourself.
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@3RU7AL
Russia is not communist any more either.
And I would rather live in The Unites States than damn near anywhere else on this planet. Especially over a so called communist country.
I disagree that governments are by definition oppressive. I think anarchy can be awfully oppressive to those who are at the mercy of those who opportunistically prey on the defenseless.
Government tends to be oppressive to people who are up to no good...
Or in the case of a tyranny, anyone who obeys God, because a tyrannical government sets itself up as god in the place of God.
And the Soviet Union isn't worth defending, it was a tyrannical government, there is no way getting around that. It fell for good reason. Good riddance.
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@3RU7AL
The Soviets also killed millions of Orthodox Christians, decimated the priesthood, and made sure that no clergy could do their work unless cooperating with the kgb.
The Soviets did everything they could do to destroy the church without causing a revolt, and when they found they couldn't they infiltrated it.
But the soviet union and indeed all "communist" countries are in fact socialist. In fact, socialist is usually in their name. Socialism is...
"a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done"
But they certainly did treat people as if they were slaves to the state.
And as long as I am holding something, it is defacto my private property. There is a certain level of unenforceability that goes with abolishing private property.
If you think it is desirable to live under a soviet union type government, you are VERY DECEIVED. You also might as welll be signing my execution papers. Just fyi.
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@EtrnlVw
@keithprosser
It is simply a matter of accepting that The Ultimate Reality refers to exactly what the meaning of those words refer to. What makes it difficult is taking it to mean anything but that. The problem has nothing to do with my inability to explain it, it has everything to do with not accepting what it means.
There is only one Ultimate Reality, it is Reality in the truest sense of the word. A theory of everything would at best be an image of this. A theory is a created thing, it is an understanding. God is not an understanding, God is The Supreme Being. The Truth.
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@EtrnlVw
That is what God is, and that is how the concept is understood in theology.
The reason I can't compromise on this is because any type of compromise on this literally undermines all of theology.
No, The Ultimate Reality is what God means. It doesn't exist in God, because that doesn't make sense, and God doesn't exist in it because then there would be an existence greater than God.
And what I am asserting here is Orthodox Theology. It is correct and true.
All atheiist arguments against God are contingent on making God something else. That is why compromise only serves to aide in reinforcing the atheists superstitions.
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@secularmerlin
I'm talking about what gives truth to true things.
THE TRUTH.
So if you deny THE TRUTH you are denying all truths.
Not a truth, THE TRUTH.
The way things actually are.
Not
The way things are in relation to something else... like, the way things appear to be.
Absolute Truth.
That is what God is.
The Supreme and Ultimate Reality.
Realize it now.
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@secularmerlin
There is nothing logical about denying The Truth. Don't kid yourself.
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@EtrnlVw
It isn't my intention to be anything other than vague.
I'm not trying to get in your way.
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