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@secularmerlin
If you are questioning the existence of The Truth, you have doubts. If you have doubts, you at least know one thing is true... that you have doubts.

There are no truths without The Truth.

What are the benefits of loving The Truth? What are the consequences of embracing delusion? 

You are better off making peace with the way things are than pointing at the world and demanding that it conform to your fantasies. Loving The Truth is beneficial in every way. It leads to real peace and happiness. Those who receive not a love for The Truth are cursed with strong delusion and they suffer for it.


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@secularmerlin
God is One, complete, with out any division or equal. Incomparable with anything. Always the same, never changing, and perfect.

Omnipotent, meaning all influence comes from God. Everything that is done is done by God.

Omnipresent, meaning everywhere at once. If it exists, it is because God is there giving it existence.

Omniscient, meaning that everything that is known is contained within God

Omnibenevolent, meaning that God derltermines what is good, and everything God does is good.


God is certainly immeasurable. God is not simply background energy, God is the source of ALL energy. 


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@secularmerlin
There is only One Eternal Truth.

The Supreme and Ultimate Reality.

It is not a needless representation, it's divine simplicity.




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@secularmerlin
Humans were not always here, and humans will not be here forever. My faith is not in humanity.
There is no "truth" that can undermine The Truth, because there are no truths without The Truth.

The universe exists because of The Truth. The Truth is not contingent on the universe, the universe is contingent on The Truth.
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@secularmerlin
Not at all.

It is truth that is is the year 2018. Last year, this was not true. Next year this will not be true.

The Truth I believe in is The Eternal Teuth. What always was. Always is, and always will be true.

So this is the difference between a truth and The Truth




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@secularmerlin
If children occasionally get bone cancer, it by your own admission is not Eternal Truth.


I love The Truth. The Ultimate Reality.

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@Outplayz
I only see witchcraft, so I'm not interested.
The Truth is God. You'd be better off keeping it real.
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@secularmerlin

Thats how you put it.

I would say that I believe The Truth and my religion is worship of The Truth through love of The Truth. This naturally reconfigures a person.

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Requiring IDs to vote is racist. 
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@secularmerlin
I'm saying it is what it is and that I can not say it is or is not a conscious entity. That is not really intrinsic to what I said.


It can look like a conscious entity.

It can look like it isn't.


This shouldn't get in the way of accepting the concept.

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@secularmerlin
Yahweh means "I AM THAT I AM"

It's another way of saying "The Ultimate Reality".

If you don't believe me, talk to some rabbis.

Simply accept what I'm saying, and there will be no mystery. The Truth is my God. I never claimed to know The Truth, in fact I don't believe anyone can know The Truth entirely. That isn't the point. Loving The Teurh is clearly better than embracing delusion.




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It's bad education. That's the real reason. I used to be right there too. 


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@secularmerlin
You could certainly ascribe consciousness to The Truth by saying whatever happens in truth was done because The Truth determined it to be.

Does The Truth have a consciousness like you or me? Does an ant have consciousness like we do?

If The Truth is conscious, it would likely be in a form that is alien to our consciousness.

I would say that if something happens, it happened by God's will. This is another way of saying that something happened in truth. There is no truth unless The Truth is in  it.

Facts or factual accuracy is not the same thing as The Truth. Facts are contingent on The Truth. The Truth is not contingent on facts. Facts are accurate relativistically. The Truth is always The Truth.

I don't worship what is factually accurate. I worship what makes facts accurate. The Truth. Not truths, The Truth. Not realities, The Ultimate Reality.
The Ultimate Reality is God with a capital G.



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@mustardness

Your explanations are not clear to me, I don't understand what you are saying.

You don't understand what I'm saying, so you make these godly declarations of fact that what I'm saying is dribble.

Notice the difference?

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@secularmerlin
That name literally means what I am saying.

So you are mistaken, when I say "The Truth" that is what I mean. Exactly what I am saying. I am not saying The Truth is this that I say about The Truth.

The Truth is God. If you didn't know that, believe and you will have some good news. That is the identity of my God. If you attach anything else to God, it is likely superstition that will go away once you accept that God is what God is... The Supreme and Ultimate Reality.

If that seems obnoxious to you, I would say it would probably be better if you didn't presume to understand theology. However, I am not talking about what other people believe. I am not talking about scriptures or how other people interpret religion. I am telling you MY religion and what I believe which is very simple.

The God I believe is the One True God, The Supreme and Ultimate Reality. My religion is worship of this God by loving The Truth. Naturally, anyone who does this will naturally become a more honest, sincere , healthy, and effectual person. There are a multitude of benefits that come from loving The Truth, but if you love The Truth because of these benefits, you are making miracles your idol before God.

There are plenty of people who love truth to the degree that it gets them what they want, and I would say this is a perverse form of Truth worship. I love God for who God is, and my circumstance has very little to do with it. If I was in a hellish situation, making peace with reality is the only way to get a peace that surpasses understanding.

The Truth alone is worthy of worship. The vanities and baubles of this world will vanish one day, but The Truth is eternal.



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@secularmerlin
I think believing in anything else really demands more explanation.

The Truth is True. That's reason enough.

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@mustardness
The Ultimate Reality.

The One Eternal Reality that all other realities are contingent on, but is itself not contingent.

You calling what I am saying meaningless dribble. It is only saying that you understand it as meaningless dribble. That does not makie it true, and certainly it is not.



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@secularmerlin
There is nothing greater than The Truth.

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@secularmerlin
To you that is a meaningless pronouncement of syllables. It is easy to argue against created things like scriptures, traditions, and the letter that kills.

What I am trying to tell you is that I admit I am wrong, and it isn't my righteousness, or being right and true that I am trying to communicate to you. 

There is One that is True, One among us, and I am certainly not wrong about this One, because I do not testify on my own, it testifies of itself. The Truth. You can disagree with me about everything, but if your argument is against The Truth, you are wrong.


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@secularmerlin
"let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged."
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@secularmerlin
Have you ever been surprised? Have you ever been wrong? Have you ever learned anything?

These are all proofs that reality isn't as it seems.
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@secularmerlin
If you do something, it is true that you did that something, so how can you do anything to undermine the authority of The Truth?
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unlimited paradox: can an unlimited entity, limit itself?
Can God create a rock so heavy that not even God could move it?

That's what this question sounds like.


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@secularmerlin
The Ultimate Ultimate is my God, your God.

It means exactly what it means.

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@mustardness
Without showing me charity, you will simply be hammering at me, name calling at me, and rebuking me for something you don't understand.

Without showing me charity, you have shown that you have judged me or my position without actually taking the tims to understand it. Beside that, I am going to see this and not reappect your rebuke as legitmate.

Without charity, all we have is a shouting match between you and  brick wall.

So quit assuming I am up to no good. It is my sincere desire to edify, not mystify.


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@secularmerlin
Because if consciousness exists, it must be reality. If reality exists, their must be ultimate reality. The Ultimate Reality is God.
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@mustardness
You have a great deal of faith in your own understanding.

Maybe you'd be better off to place your faith in The Truth.

Which is all I'm saying, and this is purely rational common sense.

You say I'm playing mind games. I think that is unfortunate. A little more charity would likely give you more clarity.



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@Outplayz
My religion is relationship with God. As everyone is wrong, how am I disagreeing with you on this point?

You don't  know my religion because you think you are God.

 
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@Paul
Psalm 22.

He's singing a psalm of David.

"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.
I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.
Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
I may tell all my bones: they look andstare upon me.
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.
All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.



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@mustardness
You say that God is the universe. 

I would say that God is The Ultimate Reality.


The universe is contingent on The Ultimate Reality.
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@mustardness
If it is true that "there can only exist five regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra of Universe.", this is because of The Truth. I wouldn't call this The Truth because the Truth is The Truth. It Is What It Is. 

The Truth is One



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@secularmerlin
All consciousness surely comes from God. Consciousness could not exist apart from God.
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I believe in The Truth.

Not my conception of The Truth. Not my understanding of The Truth. Not what I believe about The Truth, but The Truth.
I believe that this is the highest good, the source of all things, unchanging and eternal. The Truth is my God, and indeed everyone's God whether they acknowledge God as being so or not.

My life here in this world is my relationship with The Truth. Love The Truth with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. Show charity and love towards others. To love others is to bring them into knowing relationship with The Truth, forgiving offenses with the patience of a father toward a child as God is my father and I am a child of God, and this is the example I was shown. Forgiven of my sins against The Truth, wicked as I am, this is how I must treat others; As one forgiven their debt, I must not go forward and break the knees of those who owe me.














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@Paul
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."

"Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures."

"Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."



Truth woship. To accept Jesus as Lord is to believe on The Name of Jesus. The name of Jesus means "God is Salvation"


The Ultimate Reality is God. The Truth is The Son, who is God. The Spirt of Truth is The Holy Ghost, who is God. These three are of the same essence and being, they are One God, indivisible. Not 3 gods, not 3 parts of one God. As you can see, The Truth is what ties it together. One God.


Real Christianity is Truth worship. It is not the worship of created things or culture. It is the worship of God.

The religion is relationship with God. The religion is Jesus. Abide in The Truth, and live with charity.

This is the fulfillment of the law and the prophets. The meaning of scripture. JESUS.


















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@Stronn
The Truth is God.


It's very simple. 

You really don't understand theology, so you shouldn't judge it based on the superstitions of ignorant people. You have a superstitious ynderstanding of God.

What is the cure to your superstition?

Accepting the real meaning of the concept, and stop leaning on your own understanding.

The Truth is God. The Ultimate Reality.


The Truth has no parts. It is indivisible, complete, and whole. There are no parts of The Truth. The Truth is not shifting. It is eternal. A truth is not the same thing as Eternal Truth. A truth is relative. Eternal Truth is not contingent on anything else. It is incomparible. All truths are contingent on Eternal Truth. 

This is why God is called The Necessary Existence, because God means The Ultimate Reality. These are not meaningless words or exaggerations. God Is That God Is.


It's really simple matter of accepting The Truth. Can you think of anything greater than The Ultimate Reality? With more authority? Of course you can't. This clearly is the power over your life.

And you of course know this to be true, and yet you deny that this is your God? Come on now, quit trying to turn God into something else.


Lest you be another who fulfills the scripture,

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things."


There is no argument against God. If you argue against God, you already lost. Repent. Don't be counted among the losers.

 


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@Mister_Man
What we are seeing is the product of an entire cold war worth of KGB meddling coming to fruition.

It might be too late to do anything about it. People are going on facts that were fabricated by the very people who are trying to overthrow the government. It's nearly impossible to sort through it. 

They'll single out Alex Jones as being full of it while consuming and believing the news that other compulsive liars ram down their throats. A lot of these reporters on the television? Even when they are trying to deliver something straight faced you can
see them struggling to hold back laughter. They know they are lying. 



What's the big difference?


It really is the politics.

Alex Jones is on the wrong side.






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@drafterman
The plausibility of this scenario is not the question.


Lets say internet inc owns the entire internet now and they decide that people are not allowed to say anything that contradicts their politics. 

You say that upholding the first amendment doesn't apply to them as a private corporation. Correct?







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@Outplayz
I'm not talking about what I think is true, I am talking about The Truth.

I am not calling something the truth. That is what you are doing. I am literally talking about The Truth.

And yes, that is what the bible teaches. It doesn't teach idolatry of books or priests or traditions.


You don't understand the faith. I am describing you the faith.

It is Truth worship.

So I am making as plain the mystery as I can, but if your heart is unable to receive it, it will be a testament as to why the faith you mock looks the way it does. Because when you tell people to believe in The Truth, they tend to interpret that as believe in what they understand to be The Truth rather than The Truth. This perverts everything.

Purify your heart, and see that God Is.



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@drafterman
Banning Alex Jones only adds to credibility to the idea that he is saying things they don't want you to hear. Besides that, I don't believe the accusations against him are substantiated. I think banning Alex Jones only helps his case, and will backfire on those trying to censor him.



So hypothetically speaking, what if every form of communication was monopolized by private companies, and they all agreed with eachother to censor and limit free speech. Wouldn't this be a way of getting around something pesky like the 1st amendment without actually abolishing it?
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@Outplayz
Your faith is in a sandcastle, and it will all be washed away by the tide.


The time will come, this is a certainty.

You don't know what I believe though, you think you do. Youare threatened by it because it isn't pleasing to your own sense of aesthetics which is fundamentally, andd even as you admitted, arbitrary in nature.


You are going to be let down, because your faith isn't in The Truth, your faith is in fantasy. I am not damning you. It is my hope that all are saved. It is written...

"we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe."


I am warning you, out of a sincere desire that you come to a knowledge of The Truth... that if you do not abide in The Truth, you are abiding in death. It would be better for you to abide in life, and that is abiding in The Truth.







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@ethang5
Yet even if the medium was electronic, people can still spend themselves into poverty or even at the expense of everything else, trade these currencies in for drugs, hookers, scratch offs, a twinkie fort, etc. Then they are back at being in poverty again.

There is more that goes into poverty than simply money, or even an education. The smartest person in the world who has everything can throw it all away and find themselves in the alley simply by making their life about satisfying an insatiable addiction.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but compassion for those who live in poverty. I do my best to help a lot of them. My heart in particular goes out to the homeless. But as someone who is very familiar with this sort of thing, I know better than to think money and material things can override the strong influences of a culture of self destruction.

One od the hardest things for me to do as a youth was to walk away from a culture of self destruction. People who you care for who are still trapped in that will look at you like a traitor to leave that culture. It is even easy to believe. It is not easy to walk away from an old life in order to doo what is right.

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@drafterman
Well, do you have a problem with him having his own platform?

What if all the social media people use starts to block anything linking to that platform?

What about e-mail? Do you think that e-mail should be cleansed of those not worthy to have a platform? A private business owns the e-mail service, do they have a right to censor private communications? 

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@secularmerlin
I used to be a human garbage disposal, sure. Ever eat pigs feet? That ain't kosher.
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@drafterman
There are a lot of people who can be considered dangerous and crazy that not only are given a bullhorn, but are even propped up and celebrated by culture at large. 
So why is Alex Jones a special case?


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@Imabench
Yet here you are calling people, myself included, stupid. How is this not abusive and or cyberbullying?

Selling a product that people are willing to buy does not make said person worthy of censure.


So how is Alex Jones abusive? What did he say that crossed the line?

If Alex Jones fosters false conspiracy theories, why should that matter? People do that all the time. Heck, they even do it on the television. How is this a problem? Why should Alex Jones be blamed if crazy people do crazy things because of information they heard from him?

He is not doing anything different than what I see everytime I watch these 24 7 news networks on tv. They all lie, they all distort facts, they all say things that could influence crazy people, and they all look crazy and dangerous from a certain perspective.

Just ignore the guy. Most people ignore what they don't want to hear anyway. 



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@Imabench
What does my alleged stupidity have to with anything?

So why the hate for Alex Jones? Is selling masculinity pills to people really a reason to silence him?





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If money could fix poverty, I have a feeling that the problem would have been solved by now.



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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Seems awfully intolerant too. I wonder where this crusader for the gullible idiots gets his opinion from.
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@Greyparrot
You don't need to know The Truth to know that The Truth exists.

There is no doubt about the existence of God.


Magicians are more concerned with shaping and contorting reality than actually accepting it. If they seek any truth at all it is for the aim of honing their art.

Magic is fundamentally based on deception. It is after all, the utilization of belief as a tool.

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@secularmerlin
Well, I don't eat animals or animal products so I guess that means I am not an omnivore.
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