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@3RU7AL
We believe that human beings are made in God's image and we consider marriage a sacred mystery. I'd say we are prohuman and profamily.
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@3RU7AL
Blaming God does you absolutely no benefit.
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@Harikrish
You woulld probably be a lot more effective if you didn't pretend to be an expert. You can't fool me, all I ever read is scripture and writings of the Church, in particular the church fathers and saints. I didn't stop resding because I feltbI had read enough to "get it". I am renewed by these wriyings daily, and can tell very easily that you have a very superficial understanding of Christianity.
If you want to learn, I would be glad to assist. If not, that is fine too.
I would rather hear what you have to say about your faith than what you have to say about mine.
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@Harikrish
Being likable is neither a goal of our faith, neither is it guaranteed.
But prejudice is never righteous judgement. There are plenty of likable Christians. Maybe what makes them unlikable to you is that you fancy yourself some kind of spiritual leader, and Christians don't tend to respect that.
But I againn would like to point out, engaging in polemics rarely makes you a likable person.
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@Harikrish
I can easily accept that swimming in the Ganges is a true test of resistence to infections and diseases.
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@Harikrish
Yeah, polemics doesn't tend to make you likable.
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@Harikrish
Likability is in the heart of the one who likes.
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@zedvictor4
I dunno man, I think there is a big difference between sharing the same spoon and bathing in the nastiest corpse filled sewer on the planet.
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@Harikrish
Are you suggesting that all the Jews, Christians, and Muslims abandon their traditions and baptize themselves in the sewer Ganges?
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@3RU7AL
That isn't what the faith is about. You will likely find many psychopaths who appear to have peace, stability, and contentment.
Charity work isn't solely the domain of Christians either, but many who are wrong reduce Christianity to a type of moral pietism. It isn't that either.
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@3RU7AL
To maybe teach the error-slave humility, because as long as error slave is in denial of free will, error-slave is not only blaming God for their own actions, but is even accusing God of being error prone.
Error-slave is supposed to learn to blame themselves and repent, not pridefully declare themselves the righteousness of God.
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@3RU7AL
Error slave is blaming God for their actions, and is thus not taking responsibility for what they have done and what they can do to change course. To repent is meaningless to the error slave who denies free will, because their actions are the actions of God alone.
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@Stephen
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The true meaning of scripture can only be revealed in Christ Jesus. In God becoming man, all of creation has been united to God. In dying, the last enemy, death, was faced, and in rising from the dead into eternity, even all things alive and dead have been united to that risen flesh of Christ. For God so loved the world that he came into the world as The Truth and The Light that reveals all things. So God is here, with us. Closer than our breath, and all things, past, present, and future have been united to divinity through the flesh of the very Word of God, by and through whom all things have been made and subsist in.
And we have a choice. To follow The Way, The Truth, and The Life. To live a life of repentance toward The Truth, and to abide in that Doctrine of Truth. Or to crucify Jesus Christ as we compromise what we ought to do in preference to the momentary and fleeting fulfillment of some base passion or convenience.
And we have a choice. To follow The Way, The Truth, and The Life. To live a life of repentance toward The Truth, and to abide in that Doctrine of Truth. Or to crucify Jesus Christ as we compromise what we ought to do in preference to the momentary and fleeting fulfillment of some base passion or convenience.
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@zedvictor4
If you were to communicate a way of life to another, the use of brain held noumenon or the conceptual might prove to be an invaluable instrument in the directing of another soul to the path of illumination. As its utility has been attested to in the common witness of humankind from ages past even into the present age, it can be reasonably discerned that we are speaking of physical entities. If these noumenon have influence on the physical world, that is, they have an effect in the realm of causality, it can be reasonably declared that they are physical entities.
Noumenon certainly are physical, because physics is the science of causality, and everyone can witness for themselves that noumenon have a causal relationship to the physical world.
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@zedvictor4
It is more like choosing between paying the rent and smoking crack. It is better to submit to the reality that one of these decisions leads to ruin and the other is the right thing to do.
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@billbatard
Well, there is such a thing as a reserve.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Well, if I make sense at all to you, that in itself might be some kind of witness to the "religious group" as you say, that I am affiliated with.
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@billbatard
No, I am not ignoring. I thought that was an informative article. Maybe the 2nd amendment wasn't intended to be a recognition of the common anybody to have a firearm.
But you might be able to make a case that anyone who has ever been in the armed forces, federal or state militia, that even when not serving those individuals should be allowed and even maybe encouraged to keep and bear arms.
What do you think about requiring proper training before being allowed to keep and bear arms?
What do you think about swords and such?
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@RationalMadman
Nonsense. I was not kidnapped, I came in of my own free will.
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@3RU7AL
A slave obeys their master out of fear of punishment.
I obey out of love, not fear.
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@3RU7AL
Do you really find it strange that people who share the same interests, even faith, would meet up together for various reasons? But we are a community, and we look out for eachother like family. It is good for the church to have fellowship.
If you are talking about our liturgy, no, that isn't so much for socializing as it is worship in common.
As long as you are in the meat suit, suffering is a fact of life. God can certainly grant peace, stability, and contentment in times of suffering, such that one can be transcended of one's own sufferings.
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@3RU7AL
As much a slave as a child is to their parent.
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So why do people participate in social activities at Church/Temple/Synagogue/Mosque?
To socialize of course.
So what about Proverbs 10:28, "The prospect of the righteous is joy, but the hopes of the wicked come to nothing."so it's all worth it in the end, ammiright?Like ripping off a bandage, you feel much better afterward?
Of course, delusion very naturally leads to suffering, and fighting delusion with delusion or medication can only do so much to mask the problem.
With God there is a certain peace that surpasses understanding, a real spiritual joy that transcends the suffering of this life. Joy is certainly a fruit of the spirit.
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@3RU7AL
What do you think my claim is?
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@zedvictor4
The Ultimate Reality can not be a reality contingent on my brain. Neither can there ever be a tine when The Ultimste Reality is not The Ultimate Reality.
The data in my brain is not The Ultimate Reality.
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@Stephen
Are you not wrestling a man when in striving for the purity of heart to see God you take the ascetic path of subduing the passions? For when you see God, you see that your soul is saved.
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@Vader
I am facetiously convinced that the invention of triggered drums and synth drums is what caused John Bonham to drink himself to death.
I anti-vote the 1980s.
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@Greyparrot
It is at the top of the forum. As of right before this post...
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@Deb-8-a-bull
The Uncreated Church that is the body of Christ existed before time, and death will not overcome it. The Church is Eternal and has always been, always is, and will forever be.
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@3RU7AL
Social activities tend to make people happy. Social activities have very little to do with one's spiritual development. That is a personal relationship with God. True spirituality does not always involve being happy, indeed if it did, it would not be referred to as the path of sorrows. It is never an easy thing to purge oneself of corrupt influence, addiction, and the passions. This is even harder if you make these things a matter of your own personal identity. It is not always a pleasant thing, and it is often very painful to overcome one's delusions. This can only be done by that helper, the comforter, that Holy Spirit of Truth. God gives grace to those that strive for Him with a pure and humble heart.
I can say in my own life, as someone who has had to do an awful lot of repenting... there have been many times where change was not easy, particularly things that I built my identity around. For those things, change was accompanied by an awful lot of kicking and screaming.
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What am I saying? There is one God, The Truth. Abide in The Truth. Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. Love your neighbor as yourself.
My personal sanctity is not what is important. This is pure and sound doctrine that everyone should be able to recognize as beneficial to not only one's personal spiritual development, but the well being of all of humanity.
If my witness isn't enough, God is a witness to the veracity of this doctrine. Truth and love will make the world a better place.
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@3RU7AL
Because serotonin levels, as I stated, has nothing to do with spirituality.
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@3RU7AL
Well, I guess that means youu will be forever stuck, because leaning on your own understanding won't get you out of the epistemological black hole. In fact, it is what got you there. What will keep you there.
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@3RU7AL
I am sure you have your theories, but as you do not have the.mind of the church I am certain that they amount to little more than plausible sounding explanations that are off the mark.
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@3RU7AL
Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify stultifying your development.
It is not possible for you to approach God with sincere humility and a repentant heart if you blame God for making you sin.
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@3RU7AL
I'm sure smoking dope will boost your serotonin levels.
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@3RU7AL
You can always choose to not do what you know you ought not to do that you are currently doing.
If you are honest, I am sure you'll be able to find something.
It is s good start.
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@3RU7AL
Except I am not claiming that serotonin has anything to do with spirituality. You are the one doing this, and I absolutely reject this claim.
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@3RU7AL
If it was necessary for us to be truly perfect, no one could be saved. There is a lot of room for grace. What matters is that we are trying.
Blaming God does not profit you.
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@3RU7AL
I am pretty sure the right drugs will float your serotonin levels in perpetual happy land.
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@3RU7AL
Blaming God for your faults is not helpful to growing spiritully. God must be approached with humility.
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@3RU7AL
I kindly ask you to stop sending me youtube links, I cannot watch videos.
In otherwords, you think that spiritual wellbeing is simply a matter of being on the right drugs.
I would say you are very off the mark on this one.
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@3RU7AL
In a great way, people become slaves by choice.
It might be hard, but you can always put the bottle down, you know.
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The only people who get hurt are the ones who put all that time, effort, and money to produce the books, music, movies, etc.
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@3RU7AL
I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that you pirate intellectual property.
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@billbatard
You are repeating yourself.
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@billbatard
You can't say they are wrong and then tell me they meant something else at the same time unless you are trying to say they were even wrong about what you say they were really saying.
Cuz that is just confusin'
Interesting article though.
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@3RU7AL
God's judgement is always righteous because God is The Truth. The Truth is righteousness.
The Truth is what sets you free. Those who forsake The Truth have chosen torment for themselves. It is no strange thing.
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@3RU7AL
Food, shelter, and procreation alone can only do so much for spiritual wellbeing.
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