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@ILikePie5
@badger
@Best.Korea
The DP has started. Also best Korea is new so if everyone helps him out that will be great
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Okay there is no theme but I still consider this gay so the name remains. The following people are playing.
1. Badger
2. Best.korea
3. Pie
4. Mharman
5. Supadudz
6. Austin
7. Lunatic
8. Earth
The DP is 72 hours and it takes 5 players to lynch
Also I hope this serves as a lesson that you don't need a complicated set up to get these types of games started.
Go.......
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@Mikal
Will do or will donate. I will figure it out on payday. Thanks for getting in touch
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@K_Michael
Existential threats of AI
1. Gray goo scenario
2. Mass unemployment due to general AI replacing every conceivable job
3. Singularity creating a signal to other civilizations that we have become a threat and have them targeting Earthlings for extermination.
That's odd the top of my head. There are a ton of reasons to be concerned.
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Number 7. Almost fully legal, this is mostly so that way humans can keep superiority for a while longer, though it looks like it's becoming too late for that.
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@MeowRanger
Have fun. The game will be out tonight for anyone reading this
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@Double_R
Using the term “Free speech” in any context that doesn’t involve the government is meaningless and ultimately disingenuous.
I disagree. I think there really needs to be a cultural acceptance of free speech to actually in practice have a free market of ideals.
Maybe the government won't ban your speech but if everyone disagrees with engaging in debating your ideals, it's as good as having no free speech.
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@TWS1405_2
Correct you never used the term. Are you too low IQ to know how analogies work?
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@TWS1405_2
FACT: I never said or claimed cops were “robots” and that citizens were in “full control” of the traffic stop.
I literally quoted you
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@sadolite
I started digging into Buckminster fuller after seeing the crazy shit ebuc posts. Guy was a crackpot. He had a good way of defining his own reality and his one successful architectural design was stolen. His car designs were absolute shit etc. And and ebuc has just went mad with Fuller's stuff
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@TWS1405_2
Nope, gave full context. Not sure if you are mentally retarded or just trolling right now. Show the context if they are out of context with the words surrounding them. Give Fuller quotes and let's see if the context changes
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@Lemming
Those objections are silly.
Speciessm critique- humans are superior to animals and it is stupid to claim otherwise.
Health- veganism is unhealthy which would be much more clear without doctors and scientific advocates muddying the waters with misleading claims.
Resource intensive - true, which is why it's expensive, but I suspect it will be much less resource intensive in the future
Big businesses would dominate- the other option is factory farming, so pick your poison I guess.
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@cristo71
How do females lose power in step 1?
Yeah I need to explain that better and I have been finding it difficult.
With high prison populations you have more women than men. It's natural that you would think that means women have disproportionate power, but it doesn't pan out that way in real life, at least in terms of sexual dynamics.
So when there is like 3 fuckable women for every fuckable man, you have a situation where men can have all the power in relationships, due to the fact they can play by their sexual imperative to spread their seed as wide as possible
In a community where men and women are roughly equal in relationships, women can more effectively demand marriage, monogamy and for the man to keep a stable job. If the man has the ability to sleep around because of how much women outnumber men, it means women can't influence those civilizing effects as well. This results in destabilizing of their society. You can actually get studies on populations where a lot of males are lost to migration or war and see those same effects we see on the black community of men lost to prison or worse
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@TheUnderdog
Pointless if it is for ethical reasons. Lab grown meat is becoming more affordable by the year.
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I would also like to state that I don't have access to the admin panel and have no clue who reports what. I am just having fun speculating .
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Those are your quotes though. Lol
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My dad may have been an abusive, alcoholic piece of shit, but he was also incredibly smart.
I remember one time he punished me by making me solve a crime. The Susan Smith case had just went into the news. I worked that case for like 12 hours a day.
Like 7 days after I was working on it, he comes to me and asks
"Boy you solve that case yet"
I respond
"I mean it sounds like some random black guys kidnapped her kids"
He responds to me
"That's what you get from 12 hours of work a day, are you some kind of retard?"
I stayed silent so he wouldn't punch me.
"She obviously killed her own kids, get your shit together"
Of course a few days later the country was shocked to find out Susan Smith murdered her own children and just tried to make up some bullshit kidnapping story.
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@TWS1405_2
You state things and go back on them. You are the clown. For example you stated all cracked windows impair vision. Look below
Cracks in the windshield also fall under the same category, and one can be cited for a damaged windshield due to said obstructions.
I pointed out that there is a situation where a crack would not obstruct view such as a tiny pebble that leaves a small dent in the windshield with micr cracks. You back pedaled. Here is that exchange
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See bifocal vision. It doesn't obstruct driving because some rock left a tiny crack in your windshield
You back pedaled with the following statements to change it from any possible crack to specific types.
"Outright breakage" means glass which is severely cracked or shattered to the extent that air passes through it or, if by running a fingertip over the cracked area, the glass moves or sharp edges can be felt;4. "Star break or shot damage" means a vented break with cracks radiating from the point of impact; and5. "Stress or hairline crack" means a crack which has no visible point of impact.”
Notice how your last statement is dramatically different than the first where you mentioned any possible crack. You did a similar back pedaling below when you stated a police interactions was not influenced to any degree by an officer but only by the person they are interacting with.
Irrelevant. Everything that has the potential to happen (or not happen) during a traffic stop is predicated on how the citizen stopped and contacted reacts to and treats the cop. The cop alters their position/stance based on that initial encounter.
I correctly point out that police are not robots and then you walk this back by stating the following.
Again, we are all human and can change our behavior, demeanor and attitude based on how we are treated by another despite all efforts to be kind
So which is it? Is the first statement true that the cop is a slave to the actions of the citizen encountered or the second statement that each have some responsibility for how an interaction plays out?
Here is another place you walk things back. You state
You don’t know the traffic laws, they do
I playing that every single cop knows laws better than every single citizen. You then back pedaled and tried to claim all traffic laws.
When it comes to the routine basic traffic laws, yes, they do know the traffic laws better than the average Jane and John Doe.
Then you add the qualifier, better than the average. However you didn't say better than average before. The first statement means all cops know more about traffic laws than all non cops.
We can define all traffic laws as every law that in any way shape or form has to do with traffic, traffic stops, regulations around traffic including road engineering policies etc. So I mentioned one area where lawyers may know more than cops and here is your response where you walk it back from every traffic laws to traffic laws cops are more likely to interact with on a daily basis
Shifting the goal posts from knowing the traffic laws to duration of a traffic stop I see
So what is it, you changed your claim from every cop knowing more than every citizen to then making a more general claim and then when that is challenged getting even more specific.
Yet despite you changing your responses, you accuse me of being the one to move goal posts.
At most you can accuse me of being pedantic, but moving goal posts, no that's you. Which is why you will ignore what a wrote above and refuse to acknowledge you wrote in a less than precise way
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@TWS1405_2
you would be the type to argue with a cop about it when pulled over.
Not really. It doesn't accomplish much. I will tell my lawyer how retarded the cop is though, so they can handle him
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@TWS1405_2
Don’t need to read it. I know how to execute proper interpersonal communications. I was so good at it when I was conducting background investigations for a county Sheriff of new candidates, that many felt so comfortable talking to me they divulged information that got their application tossed into the bin.
I guess that is better than doing polygraph tests which have too many false negatives and false positives to be even a tiny bit useful.
You: I made no such claim. You clearly know not of anything regarding psychology and human interactions that go in any direction based on the behavior, attitude, demeanor and word choice of one party directed at another.
Also you: Irrelevant. Everything that has the potential to happen (or not happen) during a traffic stop is predicated on how the citizen stopped and contacted reacts to and treats the cop. The cop alters their position/stance based on that initial encounter.
Guess all those legislators who wrote the law prohibiting fuzzy dive and air fresheners hanging from the rear view mirror are all retards then, according to your (Ill)logic. 🤦🏼♂️
Dropped my argument about bifocal vision proving a graduation tassel on a mirror has neve once been the recorded cause of an accident. Drop my argument that if we go by how you defined things previously, the bar connecting the rearview mirror to the windshield qualifies as an obstruction.
Ever wear the uniform? Put the badge on? Conduct traffic stops?
No, I have read over 100 studies on policing, many of the studies used to create policy for police department in general and typically I am the biggest defender of police on the site. You just make terrible pro police arguments, which make the libtards look correct, which offends me.
3. "Outright breakage" means glass which is severely cracked or shattered to the extent that air passes through it or, if by running a fingertip over the cracked area, the glass moves or sharp edges can be felt;4. "Star break or shot damage" means a vented break with cracks radiating from the point of impact; and5. "Stress or hairline crack" means a crack which has no visible point of impact.”
You merely said crack before, if you had a more nuanced view, you should have written the above out to start with.
No, Right! You jumped from baselessly claiming cops know very little about the routine traffic laws that they enforce to the courts determining how long a traffic stop should and shouldn’t be. That’s shifting the goal posts (i.e. a non sequitur argument
I didn't claim they know very little. I assume they know a lot. Look over my claim again. I stated sometimes the people they are pulling over know more about traffic laws. Obviously that would be a tiny minority, but it is different than your claim that zero people know the law better than your average idiot beat cop. Seriously I think the latest study has their average IQ at 106.
Nothing to brag about. If you removed retards and blacks out of the population than the average IQ of your normal person would be around 115.
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@AustinL0926
I was merely using an analogue of previous precedent in order to show how bribery in a democratic process is generally a negative thing.
The majority literally elects people based on their promises to rob the minority. Meaning they offer voters free shit.
Vote me for free education
Vote me for free healthcare
Vote me for free Britney
Democracy is bribery and I will end it on Dart if I am able with the exception of the presidential election
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Claiming a lack of black fathers harms the black family is in no way shape or form blaming black males. These people have to be retarded to take it that way
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@cristo71
The claim is that this allegedly pernicious myth arose out of racist inclinations to scapegoat black fathers for shortcomings in black communities.
The race pimps always make stupid claims like this.
The black community is disproportionately female because of deaths from stupid shit and from disproportionate black incarceration rates.
There are studies that show the effects of heavy migration of males in a community and how their absence effects communities and we can see those similar results occurring in black communities.
Here is essentially what happens.
1. Females lose power in sexual dynamics, this means they have to submit to the male reproductive inclinations. meaning that men have all the power in these relationships. This causes too much promiscuity as can be seen by the high STD rates in these communities. On another note it also means women can't get as close to men and several studies have shown that women have a civilizing affect on males. For example a study on male politicians with daughters showed these politicians after having a daughter pushed for more liberal policies. We also see less risk taking in married men, less criminality etc.
2. Children without fathers and women grow up less wealthy more. Poor. This can result in more hardship for a family
3. Single mother homes result in more criminality.
So this is a cycle and I believe the only way to realistically get through it, is to stamp out the hillbilly culture passed onto African Americans through slavery and maybe easing up on drug laws
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Traffic stop I would include with traffic laws and another interesting ruling is a supreme court ruling deciding cops do not need to understand the law in order to be law enforcement
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@TWS1405_2
Shifting the goal posts from knowing the traffic laws to duration of a traffic stop I see
Wrong
Another court has ruled that it should be less than 15 minutes generally speaking.
There is a reason why dice don’t hang from the mirror anymore, state legislators have outlawed it because it was determined to be something that has the potential to obstruct the driver’s full view out of the windshield.
It doesn't obstruct the view though, nice try. We have bifocal vision so as long as each eye has a different angle, you should be able to see any traffic behind it.
Cracks in the windshield also fall under the same category, and one can be cited for a damaged windshield due to said obstructions
See bifocal vision. It doesn't obstruct driving because some rock left a tiny crack in your windshield.
So again cops being like "well technically it is In their vision so it obstructs view" is not following the spirit of the law. On top of that if we actually took what you said seriously then the bar that connects the rearview mirror to the windshield technically obstructs the view also.
You would have to be a complete retard to thing somebody hanging an air freshener is risking a car crash because of it.
stopped using that stupid phrase “the book of verbal jujitsu,” it’s not making your position sound anymore factually accurate when it so clearly is not.
Ha, so you haven't read it. It's absolutely retarded to think how you stay stuff has no effect on how others respond to you. If you want we can debate whether choosing words differently effects the behavior of others, we can also have a debate on whether command presence is more likely to get favorable outcomes for police than those who do not use command presence.
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Again, we are all human and can change our behavior, demeanor and attitude based on how we are treated by another despite all efforts to be kind.
One hell of an admission. Prior to that you claimed cops were all robots and the citizen being stopped was in full control of an officers behavior.
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@TWS1405_2
When it comes to the routine basic traffic laws, yes, they do
Without googling it, how long is considered reasonable for a reasonable stop?
The supreme court has given the exact time to the minute.
I mention that one because cops get it wrong all of the time.
We also have many cops who are either stupid and don't understand they are violating the spirit of the law many times or they are smart and pretending to be stupid so they can violate the spirit of the law. For example pulling people over for dice in the mirror.
The cop alters their position/stance based on that initial encounter
Not true at all that it is completely dependent on the person stopped, otherwise you wouldn't have the best cops using the book verbal jujitsu. You also wouldn't have studies, like the studies which show command presence keeps cops safer. Those studies wouldn't even be relevant if all cops behaved exactly identical like robots.
Like it or not, police officers are not robots and each one has a separate personality as well as a variety of policing skills
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@Stephen
Why do you think that is?
It's because, what to blame is easier if you can blame the government or cops or racism.
It's a much bigger and easier boogie man, than to admit their are socioeconomic and cultural factors feeding into this problem, and that the solutions involve some dramatic shifts in these structures
By it's very nature the establishment likes to maintain power, so suggesting radical changes causes them to lose their grip on it.
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@AustinL0926
Nope, typically we do 72 hr days 48 hr nights. They are used to it. I was willing to reconsider if you suggested something different though
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@TheUnderdog
@Double_R
I am aware of no studies concluding that people would be less likely to commit crimes if they were slashed as opposed to jailed indefinitely, and certainly not of anything concluding that they would “learn their lesson”.
It’s because lashings isn’t tried anywhere, you might not find such evidence.
They actually do have various forms of judicial corporal punishment in many areas and those areas seem to have low crime rates. I think that it is a good deterrent, and the ethical implications can be worked around by making in voluntary in liu of serving actual time
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@Double_R
And then… let them go? Doesn’t seem like a great way to ensure public safety
I actually think for non violent crimes they should be given the option. A lot of the social problems we see in marginalized communities would be fixed by this. Fathers who fucked up can minimize the time they spend away from their children and away from working and be punished for their crimes without hurting their families. They can avoid making friends with and interacting with criminals they meet in prison and they have less gaps in their resume to have to explain to employers.
Violent crimes, different story but non violent ones we can reduce their impact with corporal punishment.
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You thinking it's only half the population tells me something about your intelligence as well
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Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
Thank you. I knew if I just made some bullshit claim like that, somebody would go through the trouble of doing the research for me
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If I see any more similarities between what he raps and what I rap, I will alert you guys so he can be unmasked
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Bruh as soon as they end the Petro dollar we are fucked. They can challenge it
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@Sir.Lancelot
I just noticed he plagiarized me. WTF
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Are you saying that we have negative rights against other individuals/institutions? Is this to be enforced by the state? If someone comes in my home and says something I dislike, am I unable to tell them to stop since it is my property? What about my business? What about my online platform?
Yes you mentioned John Locke earlier so I think I am telling you stuff you already know, but they would be enforced by the state. Locke said that the states role was only to protect negative rights.
Yes to all those questions.
This is because conservatives are much more likely to be controversial on online spaces that is more likely dominated by young people, which leads to them having more interactions, which leads to greater amplification.
Do me a favor. Go on reddit and make 5 clearly right wing posts followed by 5 clearly left posts. You will legitimately be banned on R/politics for example for being a conservative, very downvoted so your opinion is hidden and the echo chamber can stay.
My experience seems to be very bad on all these big tech platforms. I don't post my opinion usually on them but I certainly see more liberal views in my feed than conservative ones whether that is reddit, Twitter, Facebook or YouTube. I just don't see conservative opinions as much.
Yeah, but is there any evidence that they are intentionally trying to kill out the white race and replace them, writ large, or just that they're pro immigration because of progressive politics and trying to win on that voting bloc.
I wouldn't think it was intentional no. Not in that way anyway. That doesn't remove blame
The difference is Jewish cabal or a mostly progressive identity group being progressive. Without a specific example of Jewish writers who are pushing for this, I have no reason to buy there is a global conspiracy.
I don't see large Jewish publications that lean very conservative or don't feel passionate about being pro immigration. I don't think right wing people are alleging some secret Jewish plot. It's more like just pointing out a particular group is more likely to engage in the particular actions they find harmful to society.
I mean I am pretty right wing and I don't believe that there is some secret Jewish cabal, but I do see that if you look at the top selling pro immigration books on Amazon, there are a lot of burgs, and witz's and stein's. I don't see white or black academics pushing immigration.
I spend a lot of time listening to lectures by Rabbis and going on Jewish websites because they often off great commentary on the Christian old testament. It is a popular belief in Jewish communities that they are safer in more diverse countries. I disagree that they are safer, as many are targeted for crimes because they are seen as weak, but they disagree apparently.
My counterpoint that would be a more accurate answer would be colonization and racialized foreign policy.
I guess I would have to learn about those effects to respond. I think South Africa kicked all the white farmers out at some point and all of a sudden the farmers that replaced them were terrible and people were starving and they had to beg white farmers to come back, and it made the news. This is something that sounds simple. You plant seeds and water then, but their culture seems to not be adapted to doing well as farmers or something.
Again, I would have to see how colonization effected these areas. It would seem to me that there is a lot of evidence that low trust societies just do worse than high trust societies and that these people just don't want to be ethical so they can trust each other and make big things happen.
I would be interested to explore your theory that colonization caused a lot of this if I could be recommended books, documentarues etc. That can get me up to speed
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It's a dangerous thing because if you work against these dirty tactics in general the side not protected by the establishment will be the only one they come down on, which is very dangerous.
It's the same thing with election tampering. There for example was evidence that there was propaganda efforts by foreign nations to have Hillary Clinton elected, but only the propaganda efforts to get Trump elected were ever mentioned by the press (mouth piece of the establishment).
In reality any work against these types of dirty tricks is one step closer to a one party state
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I meant to say de paramilitarize
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@AleutianTexan
I think working towards it in general would only paramilitarize the right. I think the left have an advantage and fighting against their tactics won't work because the establishment supports them.
I also don't necessarily see a problem with militias in general, whether left wing or right wing. They help to somewhat balance the power of government vs citizens. If a tyrannical regime ever takes over, they have one more group of people to contend with.
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@K_Michael
Wouldn't a moderate candidate that steals Democrat votes be more successful? There's a reason Biden won the Democrat ballot over an extremist like Bernie Sanders
This is legitimately a shame as well. I would have had a tough decision to make if Bernie Sanders won the nomination. It was easy voting against Biden.
Worst case scenario than electing Sanders is accelerationist. Beat case scenario he uses the position to go after big businesses
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So as far as the statement about non democratic means to ensure good results. I would lean more towards things like for example how Steve Bannon has discreetly put activists in a lot of voting official roles around the country.
I don't believe the left will ever play fair so I believe it is necessary for the right to fight dirty to avoid becoming Venezuela.
Now I have changed since I made the statements in this thread and am really reconsidering my philosophy in this regard for a variety of reasons.
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@AleutianTexan
I guess it depends on the group. If they are being violent in any way, than no. If the groups are just a bunch of rednecks who get together once a week and talk shit, maybe do some target practice and have some beers with each other, I don't see the harm.
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@TheUnderdog
If you punish them in ANY prison, your tax dollars pay for it. Lash them instead.
I have done a debate on judicial corporal punishment and it is tough to argue against
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Legit my ID EXPIRED and because liberals created this national ID bullshit, I am struggling to get a new one.
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Put them in men's prisons so I feel less gay about prison sex when I inevitably go.
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@Stephen
But does it matter?
Nobody cares about black on black crime :(
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