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@Mopac
You don't get it, the problem is you people can't do it justice no matter how much magic dust you sprinkle on it.
Your god is but a single book and you simply can not jam everything we know into a single book.
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@Mopac
That can't happen to me.
Once I understood a little bit about how things work in our universe, your God became very small and inconsequential in every respect.
By comparison with the grandeur of the universe that singular thought that you keep in your head is a very very small thing indeed.
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@Mopac
Okay sorry, I'll answer your question directly.
Once I began to understand a little bit about how things work I became awestruck by the deeply profound nature of everything. That level of awe becomes even stronger the more I understand and that gives me a hunger to learn more. We have amassed so much information that I literally cannot run out of new things to learn even if I had a hundred lifetimes to learn it in.
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@Mopac
I'm interested in physics, quantum mechanics, string theory, biology, cosmology, relativity, aircraft, space craft, computers, software and technology, that kind of stuff.
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@Mopac
I'm not religious. The reason I'm not religious is that it's just not something that I am interested in.
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@Mopac
I don't think it's a stretch, everybody is born with some predisposition towards religion and religious thinking. You have to have the structure in place to give you the capability to be religious, if you didn't you wouldn't be able to understand it. It would be just like quantum mechanics.
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@Mopac
Yes I am aware of that definition of faith.
Why don't you answer my question? What happened that made you become a religious person?
You have nothing to fear from me, I'm not going to use your response to attack you.
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@Mopac
But what happened that made you become a religious person? Your response did not seem to address that question.
There is no cause, principle, or system of beliefs I hold with ardor and faith.
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@Mopac
I posted that video in the wrong thread, I should have posted it in the “Jesus is Lord?” thread where you said that you don't believe in free will.
What happened that made you become a religious person?
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@Mopac
You should listen to this guy.
He makes a pretty good argument against free will.
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@Mopac
But free will is a cornerstone of religion! How can you be religious and NOT believe that you have free will?
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Because if it means you won't talk to me then I will NOT mock you mercilessly.
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@Mopac
So you have come to believe what you do because God has planed your life in advance?
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@EtrnlVw
I haven't been to the forums for a while, got kind of burned out on it.
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@Mopac
The Truth is life. The Truth is eternal.
So, you have been reduced to this? Have you rendered yourself mentally retarded with your Bible? I am very concerned with this because what you believe has an effect on me. For example, did you vote for Trump? The thing that non rich trump supporters all have in common is the inability to recognize a con man when they see one. If you can't watch trump talk for five minuets and not clearly see that he is a phony then you and me have a big problem.
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@mustardness
Black holes may be the best bet for a creator of all biologic life coding? Can you explain how black holes do that? As far as I know a black hole scoops up everything near it and the only thing that comes back out of it is radiation.
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@EtrnlVw
Can you explain what you mean when you use the word spiritual? Do your spiritual beliefs include the Bible?
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@Mopac
You ARE trying to sell me something, you are trying to sell me on your beliefs. You want me to buy into your beliefs and start believing what you believe so that you can save me from the fiery pits of hell. You care about me and everybody else like me and you don't want to see any of us tortured in hell for all eternity.
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@Mopac
Well yeah, but the only people that go out of their way to say the word truth are normally recognized as likely to be frauds. You are just perpetuating that stereotype.
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@Mopac
Predestination? Sounds interesting. How does predestination fit in to it?
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@Mopac
You sound like you are trying to sell me something.
Your use of the word truth is excessive, why do you think that is?
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@Mopac
Dead people are not alive so how can anybody “live” in hell? Wouldn't it be more accurate to say you are dead in hell?
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@Mopac
Why do you keep saying that over and over? You need only say it once, I heard you the first time.
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@Castin
That would require a long answer, but something along the lines of the structure of the brain, our evolutionary past, our psychology, the false positive, etc. People like to anthropomorphise things so they tend to wish to see things as being alive, they do it a lot in story telling which is what the bible is, stories.
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@EtrnlVw
Your comment makes no sense at all. Are you religious or something?
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@Mopac
No I don't know anything about it, I'm just not interested in it.
Is religion fun?
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@EtrnlVw
I don't know about the purpose part, but yes when stairs explode they make the atoms that make people and dirt and all the other stuff in the universe.
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This thing is mashing my words together for example, “but I’mretired now” was “but I’m retired now” when I put it in, this common?
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@mustardness
I don't understand much of what you wrote, frankly I just gave up. Can you explain your position more concisely and in layman's terms?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Yes it's the universe.
Let me be clear here, the universe has no intelligent agency, just the laws of physics. A flowing river can create a canyon, but the river has no intelligent agency either. Many people wrongly assume that when they see the word creator it implies an intelligent agency, it does not.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Yes, your creator and my creator also. It's not me, but I am a very very small part of it.
That racecar thing is interesting, it's impossible to spell it backwards!
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@Mopac
Christianity is not truth worship, it rejects truth at every turn.
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@mustardness
I'm sorry to disappoint you but I am NOT a religious person.
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@drafterman
Everything? If only there were a word that means everything.
Your username, drafterman, is that because you make technical drawings or do you race cars?
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My creator has the advantage of being visible.
What am I talking about?
(My father and mother are wrong answers.)
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@Mopac
Wow! Really? And you learned all that with just one book? Impressive.
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@Mopac
Wow! Really? And youlearned all that with just one book?
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