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@Dr.Franklin
Firstly the dildo waving homosexuals are in a tiny minority and don't represent the majority of homosexuals.
Secondly again this has nothing to do with homosexuality in and of itself. By that logic I could site heterosexual men raping women and cite that meaning that heterosexuality is harmful.
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@Dr.Franklin
You very obviously aren't actually comprehending the points and are refusing to read articles that go in depth. I'm not going to sit here for an hour and explain this to the same person who so far in this forum has spread nothing but appeal to futility fallacy's and Straw man fallacy's.
I should've known before I responded that this was just going to be another brick wall forum post similar to every other post you've done.
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@PressF4Respect
omg stop bullying rm, hes a genius of strategy and his skills are a gift from the gods. u shuld show him respect
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hi, you're a genius and master of strategy who was born to be the best at debating.
How is your day?
How're you doing?
Was your cunning strategic genius a gift from God?
Just a big fan
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@Dr.Franklin
The LGBT community is irrelevant to homosexuality being evil firstly.
Secondly, ok care to elaborate?
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@Dr.Franklin
And obama doubled it
Firstly this is another red herring, we aren't discussing Obama, we're discussing Bush. Obama is irrelevant to whether or not Bush was a great president.
Considering Obama inherited the worst economy in the United States since the Great Depression, it's rather unfair to compare Bush to Obama when Bush had a surplus and Obama had a major disadvantage.
Even taking this into account, according to the previous source I cited, Bush STILL grew the debt even more than Obama did.
Healing from a hurricane is hard
It is hard, and Bush's response was pathetic for a president.
This is a rather complicated answer as to why his response was pathetic as it's a lot to take in so I'll just simply cite an article that explains everything clearly.
In short, Bush was on vacation when the entire hurricane occurred and when notified of the hurricane, refused to return back. Until the last 2 days when one of his aides showed him a video of the destruction the hurricane caused.
Explain
I've cited you an entire article detailing everything since you request me to elaborate I will.
Bush's foreign policy was horrible as it isolated our allies and increased tensions. Here's a rundown,
- Bush failed to properly recognize global warming as a threat which angered many of our allies
- Bush essentially allowed illegal arms trades to continue with no policy to punish the criminals
- Bush refused several treaties which angered our allies as the treaties " didn't put America first "
So? Middle Eastern deaths are fine
Firstly this is obviously racist.
Secondly, the statistics cited are for the United State's military personnel deaths.
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@oromagi
Quite funny honestly, I mostly posted this forum for discussion purposes only as while I do believe there is alot of evidence to believe he was a fraud, I will admit it's nothing definitive and we'll likely never discover the answer.
That being said it turns out my prediction came true as in my mind before I posted this I theorized that you would have disagreements seeing that you seem to have a vendetta against conspiracy theories. I don't particularly hate this but regardless I find it fascinating my psychological prediction was correct.
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@Dr.Franklin
My theory is that he's a real person but did not write the plays.
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@Dr.Franklin
All presidents sink us into debt
Like bush did? No, statistically Bush put in the 5th most amount of debt out of every single president.
No Hurricane is fully relieved and the Hatian Earthquake, Clinton never helped
Appeal to futility since you're basically stating that because we can't prevent all suffering, this makes it okay to not try to aid as much suffering as reasonably possible.
Besides what does clinton have to do with anything? We're discussing President Bush not Clinton.
how so?
So? IT stavalized the region
I believe you meant stabilized.
Regardless, you do understand that us sending our troops there actually fueled more hatred of the United States right?
Besides even if it did stabilize the region, it still lead to the increasement of our national debt and deaths of 4,500 and wounding around 30,000. Far more deaths and destruction than 9/11 costed us.
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@Alec
Schools just starting out so my guess is that it's due to stress. Although in ratmans case, it's just his over dramatic personality.
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Seems like a user is leaving every day at this point. Or at least is attempting to leave.
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@Fallaneze
Technically there is but only people who've died know.
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@Dr.Franklin
He was arguably one of the worst presidents, how can you like him?
- Bush sunk us deeper in debt even though he started his presidency with a vast budget
- Bush's failed to properly respond to Hurricane Katrina which devastated New Orleans
- His foreign policy isolated us from several of our allies
- Bush sent us to Iraq under false pretenses
I'm genuinely wondering why you think he was a good president when his foreign policy was a failure and he is responsible for the economic devastation that the Obama administration inherited.
I mean even as far as republicans go he was horrible.
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My argument is a rather simple one so to make it clear and precise, Ill divide my reasons up.
1. There is NO document proving that Shakespeare had any level of education, Surely a person who used around 29, 000 different words in his plays would AT LEAST have a basic education if not a college degree. To put this into perspective, 29,000 words is considered to be one of the highest levels of vocabulary in all of history. And yet apparently we're supposed to believe a man without a college education and possibly not a grammar school education is this smart.
2. Shakespeare's signatures are sloppy and inconsistent, I mean surely a man who wrote many plays and sonnets would at least have decent hand writing right?
3. Shakespeare's settings in his plays are normally centered around royal families or nobles however as we know Shakespeare was very poor and most likely knew little to nothing about royal life.
4. Shakespeare's will mentions nothing about his plays, Poems, Or sonnets. I mean surely a man wrote that many plays and poems would at least mention what he wanted to do with his 18 unfinished plays right? Guess not apparently.
I would also like to say for the record that I am not normally a conspiracy theorist believer in fact I despise many conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones. However this is the first conspiracy theory ive seen that has sufficient evidence and shear facts to back it up.
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Interested in possibly starting a debate on this subject and want to see if anyone genuinely believes that homosexuality is harmful to society.
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@Cogent_Cognizer
Damn sorry to see you go. I actually enjoyed a lot of your debates.
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Trying to get into anime so I bought a subscription to crunchyroll and I want to hear if there are any good shows to watch.
For reference some animes I've already watched are,
1. Sword Art Online
2. Death Note
3. The Blue Exorcist
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@billbatard
Yeah, I agree, as a socialist the social democracy module in which we gradually adopt more socialist policies slowly but surely is, in my opinion, the best way to enact socialism.
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@Ramshutu
omg stop ramshutu ha ha more like gayshutu ha ha. ur just a hater whos trying to destroy RM's legacy. after all he was born to be the best at debating and is a strategy genius. ur just salty meanie!
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@Ramshutu
omg stop bullying RM u hater. ur just salty that hes a genius and ur just a bonehead
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@Dr.Franklin
What a waste of my time, you still have yet to comprehend that this is a hypothetical scenario to highlight your moral systems failures.
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@Dr.Franklin
You call liberals retarded for so-called reasons, and when those reasons are refuted, you say this is all a joke. Pathetic.I won't make a general statement about the hundreds of millions of conservatives, but you personally calling liberals retarded is like a flat earther calling someone naive.
This sums up this entire argument between me and you.
When cornered you result to the trolling card.
At this point, you aren't actually providing any good counter and are instead resorting to the " oh I was just trolling you the entire time," argument.
Because of this, you're going to be ignored on this forum from now on since you have no argument.
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@Dr.Franklin
Alright well I believe all conservatives are stupid and when you ask me why, I'll just state
" Cuzisaidso"
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@Dr.Franklin
Because in this hypothetical the aliens would have different DNA.
What do you think the Aliens would have the same DNA than us even though they're from a different planet?
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@Dr.Franklin
That's not an argument.
Very obviously you have no substantial counter-argument.
I'd like to ask for you to not call liberals " stupid " when you can't even provide to me a clear trait that defines what gives life moral consideration and has yet to provide a substantial counter.
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@Dr.Franklin
Ok but this makes your moral system logically inconsistent as the aliens have different DNA than us.
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@Dr.Franklin
Also really how is the definition " bull shit," ?
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@Dr.Franklin
Ok, so we're back to DNA.
You'd be against the genocide of an intelligent and sentient alien species.
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@Dr.Franklin
Look at the definition, does it state that poisonous plants aren't edible?
Yes it does.
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@Dr.Franklin
And what about the mentally disabled, they have no hope of ever becoming intelligent.
And what does Alec have to do with anything?
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@Dr.Franklin
Aright at this point, you're just completely ignoring my argument and definition.
What more do you want, I cited you the definition of edible which stated that poisonous plants AREN'T edible.
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@Dr.Franklin
Ok, so your trait is on the potentiality of intelligence.
Alright, so you'd be fine with the genocide of the mentally disabled as they have no potential to intelligence.
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@Dr.Franklin
Also no you can't.
If you can that I'd ask of you to record yourself eating a poisonous plant without dieing.
After all edible is defined as,
fit to be eaten (often used to contrast with unpalatable or poisonous examples).
I'm trying not to sound like a huge dick but you can't call liberals stupid when you're incapable of a quick google search.
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@Dr.Franklin
Ok, so you do in fact care about intelligence as a valuable trait given that's how you put the aliens above plants.
Ok so why are you considering a nonintelligent fetus as valuable?
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@Dr.Franklin
Ok, how are these plants edible when they're poisonous.
And moreover how are these plants any more edible than the alien meat.
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As we all know Rational Madman quit the site around 2 weeks ago and proclaimed that he was quitting forever.
However knowing Rational Madman I was a bit skeptical of him " quitting," as he's quit almost 50 times and eventually came back within a week.
Now, this has happened again, however, this time is different since this time him "quitting" garnered the attention of the entire community to the point where we aided him in achieving his last medal, people changed their profile pictures, and several memorial forms were created.
To put things bluntly, face it Rational Madman, you'll NEVER quit this site.
So stop pretending as if you are going to because at this point nobody is going to believe you and will just assume you'll return in a week.
Also in case anyone didn't see this, Ramshutu in RM's "Goodbye" forum post recently posted an update of Rm's original goodbye message.
On the forum, it reads,
To those who wronged me, I forgive you. To those I wronged, I wish you well and understand your dislike for me.For those, I didn't wrong but you still detest me, I couldn't care less. For those who do not detest me, want you to understand that my [LEAVING FOR TEN DAYS] is to do with seeking a more private life. One where I don't need to worry about bullies, authorities or any of that [for 1.5 weeks]. I am becoming a more cowardly person at a first glance but a happier, stronger one in the long run who actually will do things with my life.I decided to not do the moon landing debate [even though I am now back before the first round expired], it may be so good or so bad and controversial, regardless, that I end up famous for it and that's not the kind of heat I want. Believe the Earth is round, that we landed on the moon, that everything is fine or that everything is not. Make your own mind up, I'm not your guardian or guide in this life.I wish you all the best [from now until labour day], seriously, but I will never ever be returning to this website [this month]. This time it's real, this time I have truly and utterly decided to do it and not felt pressured into it by anyone other than myself [the rest of August can suck it]. I love the time I spent debating, I love that I'm quitting it now [for 240 whole hours], the two are not mutually exclusive.If you feel like I trolled by accepting debates just to quit [and then come back with only forfeiting one single round], that's fine. I am whatever you say I am, to you as an individual at the very least.I had an addiction to online debating, a real genuine addiction. It made me toxic, adversarial and a real cunt even to the admin and if I am to change into a person who cares for others and doesn't just 'fight against them to prove them wrong' I needed the losses, I needed the Ramshutus [who is smarter, more handsome and just plain all-round better than me], the bsh1's and everyone involved from the Castins to the bench's to show me along the way just how wrong it all was.I was completely incorrect about my role in the world and in life and I have finally understood it all. I have issues, I am angry, unhappy and never really got over a depression that I thought I'd gotten over years ago. I need to finally seek a different path in life and this is the time to fully pursue it, no more 'on and off' I know for a fact what my life was and was not meant to be now. I really wish you all the best and hope this becomes one of the best online debating sites [in the 1/3rd of a month I will be gone]I genuinely am sorry for what a cunt I've been even just yesterday on the website, I keep being passive-aggressive, aggressive and the cycle continues and it makes everything a lose-lose situations for me and the people I interact with over time as even those I grow close to want to distance themselves from me. I may end up seeking professional help but I doubt it, I think that finally fully dedicating myself to going on a path of agreement and healing will help me. This is not me denouncing debating itself as a bad thing but I do think once you get too into it, it can begin to alter you as a person and make you fight against everyone around you when all they wanted to do was help you.I am not saying that I regret all my rivalries to be clear, I'm saying I should have been empathetic to my enemies and their victims instead of deciding my role was the one to 'prove them wrong' and 'bring them down'. I am a healer and lover, that was my role all along but what I've been doing in life so far is anything but that. I don't think I will ever fully change now, I've finished developing my personality pretty much and my core being antagonistic and avoidant will never truly change into being passive and agreeable but I do think I can channel it far, far better and become the best at whatever it is I do without needing to fight everyone while doing it.I hope you all genuinely forget about me over [the 10 days I will be gone] but given my place on the forum leaderboards and how much people talk about me, I'm sure it will take a few [days] to fully eradicate my relevance to the site as the rap battling 'raaaaaah I'm the best' guy who really clearly wasn't actually meant to be that great of a debater but I hope eventually you all fully forgive, forget and move on with your lives here and IRL never thinking twice about me [until I come back in less than two weeks{
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@Dr.Franklin
So you're saying that all of these plants are somehow edible? Even though some are poisonous?
Even if you're arguing they're edible, ok the aliens can be edible too what's your point?
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@Dr.Franklin
So your entire point fails since plants aren't made for eating. Ok then do you have any other counters?
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@Swagnarok
Sorry I found someone else :-(
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@PressF4Respect
Alright I'll be happy to debate you, Let's talk via PM from now on. Looking at a few of your debates you seem like a good debater so I'd be happy to debate you.
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@Dr.Franklin
And edible plants do not equal to plants?
What about poisonous plants or plants not meant for eating like thorn bushes or briar patches?
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@Dr.Franklin
Plants aren't meant for eating.
It isn't as if they evolved specifically for eating.
I could argue they're for producing the necessary gases for humans.
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