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@TheRealNihilist
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@Speedrace
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@blamonkey
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@Alec
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@Barney
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@oromagi
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@Ramshutu
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@DebateArt.com
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@David
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@RationalMadman
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Greetings I am Pink Freud, a relatively new user to DART.
In the time I've been here I've experienced and learned about a very intriguing and wonderful community full of fellow intellectuals trying to understand the world just as I am. And believe the best way to advance is to debate about subjects in the hope of learning something new or sharpening their intelligence.
Earlier, I was looking at a top user on DDO ( Mikal ) and I discovered he had an entire wiki dedicated to him and several other DDO members.
Quite frankly I was surprised what I thought to be a niche site actually had dedicated wiki entries to several key members.
It was very enriching to read about events and the history of DDO ( a dead and broken site ) and shed new light of what the website once was
I take history very seriously and I believe that the community of DART should have a dedicated wiki that people actively edit to document the history of the site.
Imagine in 7 years or so new moderators and debaters looking at the wiki and finding out enriching information and past events similar to the experience I had with the DDO wiki. Or old debaters and moderators returning to relive the golden age of the site.
Link to wiki down below, I hope we can preserve as much history as we can so that the site can live forever and be preserved for future generations.
DISCLAIMER, I am new to editing wiki and don't exactly know a lot.
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http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/most-obese-countries/
https://www.americashealthrankings.org/learn/reports/2016-annual-report/comparison-with-other-nations
https://doc-research.org/2018/06/mortality-life-expectancy-post-communist/
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-rankings
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/libertarian
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/11/03/trumps-false-claim-that-the-murder-rate-is-the-highest-its-been-in-45-years/?ut
https://time.com/5464607/us-life-expectancy-2017/
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Does_mental_health_insurance_exist_in_your_country
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK225306/
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2018/09/who-are-the-uninsured.html
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-22/us-healthcare-snapshot-most-expensive-yet-worst-developed-world
https://www.thebalance.com/medical-bankruptcy-statistics-4154729
https://www.statista.com/chart/15390/global-suicide-rates/
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@zedvictor4
Exactly who cares about the leaderboard?
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@Snoopy
Pretty sure that's the definition.
Social democrats are in favor of a mixture while democratic socialists as you said see a slow transition from capitalism to socialism which is what I'm advocating for.
Personally, I believe that's one ( of the many ) reasons why communist revolutions failed, a radical change such as communism can't just happen that quickly overnight, it needs time.
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@zedvictor4
Ok, you do understand that I am advocating for a social democracy right?
Which is a mixture between capitalism and socialism favoring socialism.
We'd be providing the basic necessities for survival such as socialized medicine, education, and redistribution of resources.
Eventually, with the rise of AI intelligence, more and more people are unable to work which is why at some point we'll transition to a fully socialist system with seizing the means of production and universal basic income.
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@Tejretics
Most academics would consider that “social democracy,” not “socialism,” and even then, only when coupled with strong unions.The US has a minimum wage. So it already meets one of those three criteria.
Firstly, social democracies and socialism are essentially the same concepts just worded differently.
A social democracy according to Britannica.com a social democracy is defined as,
Social democracy, political ideology that originally advocated a peaceful evolutionary transition of society from capitalism to socialism
Therefore from this, we can assume a social democracy is essentially a mixed market economy with gradually higher levels of socialization which is what I'm advocating for.
Secondly, the US does have a minimum wage which is one of the factors that make it a mixed market.
However, the US doesn't have a high enough minimum wage to protect native wages in some states.
Also, I am not exactly in favor of a national minimum wage, the ultimate goal is to be like the Scandinavian model and have very powerful unions so that they have more room to bargain with the capital owners.
Granted this will take a long time so for now I'm in favor of a national minimum wage until unions become more powerful and frequent.
Switzerland doesn’t have socialized medicine—all health insurance is private (i.e., there’s no state-run insurance—even the US has a more socialized system in that respect than Switzerland), but signing up for health insurance is mandatory. K–12 education in Switzerland, as far as the level of state ownership goes, isn’t that different than the United States.
You can argue that this is a form of socialized medicine since it guarantees healthcare for all on a government regulation level.
Even if we brush aside Switzerland there are still many more countries such as Norway, Spain, Japan, Australia, Denmark, Sweden, and the united kingdom with successful socialized medicine.
For example, the Nordic countries don’t have higher “regulation.”
They have state-run medicine which is a form of regulation since you're preventing private insurers from letting people die and charging 4,000 dollars for a life-saving drug which only costs 40 dollars to make, and preventing capita owners from exploiting workers.
You also have Nordic Countries such as Denmark and more socialized countries such as Singapore which rank higher in terms of regulatory efficiency than the US.
As another example, the UK doesn’t have “socialized education”—just like America, it has public and private universities. Even Oxbridge are private universities.
Socialized is still socialized.
Even if you brush aside the United Kingdom what about Norway, Denmark, and especially Finland which is ranked as the highest and most successful education system in the world?
Socialized” means predominantly owned and operated by the government. But I would contend that unless industry, to a significant degree, is owned and operated by the government—and not just goods that have positive externalities that need to be internalized and treated as public goods—it’s not a socialist
From the definition I cited which I assume you agree with considering you've had no objections, these countries do meet the criteria.
Besides I am not calling these countries 100 % socialist, just social democracies with mixed markets favoring higher levels of socialization.
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@Tejretics
This is my definition of socialism.
I personally am not in favor of a 100 % socialist system just 70 % socialist and 30 % capitalist.
Not against the abolition of ALL private property however just some like medical services and education.
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@Tejretics
What do you mean by "socialization"?
More socialistic policies whether it be to enact a minimum wage, socialized healthcare, or socialized education.
Certainly, the UK, Australia, Switzerland, and Germany are dominated by the private sector.
Ok, elaborate these countries have higher levels of socialization with socialized medicine, education, powerful unions, minimum wages, regulation, and the redistribution of wealth.
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@Alec
" Capitalism helps increase our GDP per capita and our GDP compared to socialist countries. The US has a higher GDP per capita than almost every European country."
- This is changing, China is steadily catching up to the US which is a more socialized economy.
Not to mention other socialist countries which I mentioned which have high levels of socialization with higher GDPs per capita.
And again why are you supporting the capitalists who have been supporting illegal immigration since they believe it will shrink wages thus increasing their profits.
" I'm a conservative more concerned about the economy then illegal immigration. Illegals ought to follow a process to get here. They ought to fulfill all the requirements on the document I showed you in the link.
Capitalists, don't care about your immigration reform.
Their interests are opposing your own, capitalists are supporting mass illegal immigration regardless of who these people are as they believe it will shrink native wages.
We need some taxes, but the taxes should be just a sales tax and some sin taxes. I think the income tax ought to be abolished and replaced with the sales tax.
Ok so why are sales and sin taxes ok but income taxes aren't?
If you want to fund services such as the military and healthcare, you won't be able to fun these programs effectively without an efficient tax.
. Socialism is when everyone gets paid the same wage. Under a socialist system, the minimum wage and the maximum wage in America would be about $60,000 per year, even for CEOs. This discourages people from taking on hard, productive jobs to society.
Well, perhaps we should define socialism because I assumed we were using the definition in the debate description.
Are you 100 % capitalist ( which it seems you are ) or are you in favor of a mixed market?
Like who? Ireland is right wing BTW.
I just mentioned other countries such as Switzerland and Singapore with heavy socialization that have higher GDP per capitas.
How is Ireland right wing?
They have socialized Healthcare and education.
However, wealth inequality is fine. Those with higher then average GDP per capitas earned their wealth.
Interesting so you believe they earned their riches.
Do you have any evidence of this, because this is common sense?
Who do you believe is more likely to become rich?
Bob a boy who grew up in a rich family, had access to a wealthy private school, never had to hold a part-time job in college, and had a healthy household,
Or Bobby who grew up in a poor family had access to an underfunded public school, had to hold a part-time job in college and could barely afford college, and had an unhealthy household without a father.
Which person do you believe is more likely to be successful?
Inequality matters too because if you have a society where there's a vast amount of wealth inequality with a shrinking middle class, you'll have an upper-class who secures the political system in their interests rather than the interests of the people.
As for education, would you rather be a plumber or a teacher? One of them isin't educated, but they're rich. The other is educated, but not rich. I would say being a plumber is better for the individual because they get more money without having to go through college.
Ok, how so? What about the benefits teachers get such as pensions and healthcare benefits?
Also, this analogy fails since a good chunk of plumbers go to trade school.
None of these countries are socialist, otherwise there would be no especially rich or poor people relatively.
Note how I mentioned higher levels.
I am not advocating for a complete socialist revolution where we eliminate the class system, I simply believe we need higher levels of socialization as seen in European countries to ensure we have a proper distribution of resources and wealth.
Whether it be with provided housing, socialized healthcare, redistribution of resources IE food and water, and socialized education.
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@Alec
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EEO-QIEwB1LmUlH1haJh3n495fqmxXAQ1Phrlj3YKf0/edit shows my ideal requirements for coming into the US. A right winger approved of the list generally as well as a liberal teacher and an illegal/undocumented immigrant.
Alright, so it seems we both agree that we need to look after the interests of our country over other countries/economic nationalism.
Ok, I agree with you so let me ask you a question.
Why are you supporting capitalism when it's in the economic self-interest of corporations to allow illegal immigration and mass immigration since they believe it will shrink the native wages and thus increase their profits?
If you are a conservative concerned with illegal immigration you won't get immigration reform by shilling for the capitalists, the capitalists aren't economic nationalists.
If you're so concerned with the working class and illegal immigration your interests would lie more socialized policies such as a 15 $ minimum wage which would disincentivize mass immigration and more border security through the redistribution of wealth.
The rich generally earned their wealth so they should be allowed to keep what they earn.
Ok so then are you completely against taxes because from what it sounds like you're an anarchist.
I'm fine with this since it's cheaper in taxes then private healthcare is in premiums. It will be expensive to do though (about $2 trillion per year I've heard)
Ok good, we agree on that, however similar to immigration you do understand that you won't get socialized healthcare under a pure capitalist system since it's in the economic self-interest of pharmaceutical companies to push against socialized medicine.
Doesn't fascism in Venezuela's case come from socialism? There were politicians that accused Venezuela of being too capitalist and the people decided to make the country socialist. Latin America is generally historically left wing on policy, except for abortion. America is right wing.
Fascism is associated with the right wing and not the left wing.
Venezuela does have some socialist policies however it lies more in fascism than socialism and isn't representative of socialist countries.
All countries with a lower GDP per capita then the USA, except for Norway, but they have an oil advantage. This is including the fact that Europe tends to be more urban then America.
Firstly, there are more countries with heavy socialization with higher GDP's per capita than just Norway. Switzerland, Norway, Singapore, Luxembourg, and Ireland.
Secondly, socialism comes at a small cost of economic efficiency.
Economic efficiency isn't the only thing that matters, what about healthcare, wealth inequality, and education? All of which the US is falling behind in.
The fact that there are successful countries with great healthcare and education and less wealth inequality with great economies shows that higher levels of socialism can provide a great economy with good distribution.
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@Alec
Venezuela I wouldn't count as socialist, it really lies more in a fascist ideology than a socialist ideology.
You may point to countries such as the Soviet Union and Venezuela however you have Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Switzerland, United Kindom, and Australia.
These are countries with very robust economies with high levels of socialization.
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@Alec
Alright well what's your position on mass immigration and illegal immigration?
And what's your stance on the redistribution of wealth?
Position on universal healthcare? I don't ask about universal education since there aren't enough clear statistics on it.
The point I'll try to get at is that if you're a conservative your interests would be better enacted by a more socialist economy than a capitalist economy.
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@Alec
I'll be camping, filming, and have a lot of AP hw over the summer.
It's highly unlikely I'll be able to participate.
Seems like an interesting idea but I'm just taking a break right now to focus on IRL stuff.
Because of this, I regretfully have to decline this offer.
If however at the end of summer you wish to do this again and I am not busy by then I will accept.
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@Dr.Franklin
Black people historically don't have a good past and have always been the victims.
Slavery, colonialism, and racism just to name the big 3.
Black history month is to celebrate the good black history and not just talking about racism or slavery. Which is also overlooked I might add.
I don't really see what the problem exactly is when it doesn't affect you at all and black people feel like it helps.
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Greetings, pretty simple topic however I'd like to see which hand everyone uses.
I personally consider myself to be ambidextrous however a natural lefty
When I was younger, I went to a very christian pre-school and elementary school.
And whenever I would write with my left hand, the teachers would yell at me and force me to write with my right hand instead.
This is exactly why my earlier writing was atrocious up until high-school until I did research and found being left handed isn't " evil " or dangerous as they made it out to seem.
Currently throughout my freshman and Sophomore year I started to use my left hand to write more and it felt a lot more natural.
That being said, I am able to use my right hand and left hand for writing. However I mostly use my left hand given I right more neatly then my right hand.
In terms of everything else, I've noticed I have more left hand tendencies, I can hold a gun with my left hand way better then with my right hand, however I aim better with my right eye.
While I am better at kicking with my right foot, I throw better with my left.
Daily tasks, I typically am better with my left hand which includes brushing my teeth, opening doors, and carrying things.
However in terms of using my PC, I am able to use both hands however I typically use my right hand just because I don't have to change the settings and because games are built for right handed people.
Anyways I hope we can all share our own personal experiences in the realm of handedness.
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Personally as a bisexual male, pride month or black history month isn't that important to me.
However if black people feel as though they want a month to celebrate the achievements of black people and not just talk about slavery or jim crow laws, then be my guest.
If they don't want a black history much, that's fine with me.
This can be applied to pride month, I personally don't really need a pride month however there are a lot of LGBT people discriminated against in less gay friendly states. Cough Cough southern states cough cough.
In short, if other LGBT people want a pride month, go ahead I personally just don't care too much.
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@RationalMadman
Thought about league of legends, I'll probably try it one of these days.
Currently trying to clear my backlog right now. Got a lot of games I'm playing with a friend such as Saints Row 3, Left 4 dead 2, and we're going to start borderlands 2 together later today.
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I love dead rising a lot, although just personally.
Objectively I'd have to say the greatest video-game ever is bioshock.
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@Dr.Franklin
Meh on PUBG, I've thought about Rainbow but I'll probably need a better graphics card.
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Greetings before we start, keep in mind that these are my specs.
Specs as of 5/30/19:
Graphics Card: GTX 750 Ti
Processor: AMD FX(tm)-6100 Six-Core Processor 3.30 GHz
Resolution: 1920x1080p
Installed RAM: 8.00 GB
Something to note is I am well aware this rig isn't all that powerful and would likely have to run modern games in low settings.
I purchased this PC from a friend of mine for 350 dollars since I was interested in trying out PC gaming.
I expect in a few months once my birthday rolls around that I'll spend my birthday money on a new graphics card.
Anyways I hope I can get some good recommendations!
Also for reference, this is my steam profile. PLEASE COMMENT WHY YOU'RE ADDING ME.
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@Alec
This is a pretty good interview for your introduction to him as a candidate.
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Thanks
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