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@ILikePie5
What about Nazis and racists that you go blabbering about?
You clearly don't understand parody and satire. All I'm doing is extending what your buddies GP and bmd were saying to their logical conclusions. Or I was directly quoting them.
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@bmdrocks21
I said in this thread that most rioters were black. Based on all video evidence I have seen, that is the conclusion I came to. Perhaps there is undocumented mass white rioting that I am unaware of.
How much is "most"?
When you have race riots like you have now, white people decide they don't want to be randomly lynched in the street or have their businesses destroyed. They leave and take their capital and jobs with them. This is "white flight".
Yup, cuz we all know that it's just black people lynching just white people.
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@RationalMadman
Oh no, I'm not angry at all, lol. Au contraire, I'm actually playing with them, just like how some people play with scam callers. They've revealed in this thread, by their own volition, that they're either trolls, or they genuinely believe in what they're saying. One is bad, the other is way worse.
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@Greyparrot
@ILikePie5
@bmdrocks21
I wonder what Jesus would think about your guys' moral acceptance of genocide 🤔
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@ILikePie5
Nah. You said that certain cultures don't deserve to exist, so we obviously need to eradicate their adherents.You disagree!?
YOU AGREE!?
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@ILikePie5
Every empire in the world was genocidal and they sure as hell weren’t all white. The most successful were the Mongols ofc
I guess that makes genocide ok.
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@Greyparrot
Cancel culture is sufficient.
Nah. You said that certain cultures don't deserve to exist, so we obviously need to eradicate their adherents.
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@bmdrocks21
Are you comparing Jews to homicidal tribes?
Are you saying that all the North American tribes were homicidal?
Neither of us specified an amount. You just assumed what percentage I was referring to.
You stated what you thought was the percentage of protesters that are black. To prevent cross-thread contamination, I'm not going to post it here.
This is something that is complained about incessantly. Perhaps they are making that conclusion subconsciously. Should I not point out common complaints?
Yes, please say how society deteriorates in the absence of white people. Cuz these are "common complaints", I suppose.
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@Greyparrot
So what? People in the cultural out-group die all the time all over the globe.
Yeah, I guess the Rohingyas should all die too. Also, they're Muslim, so killing them would have the added benefit of removing suicide bombers from this planet. I'm so glad I finally understand the truth that you are preaching.
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@ILikePie5
And what about the Trail of Tears? Wasn't preventable either?
Oh yeah, cuz the white people needed that land, and they had the right to clear the "savage scum" in their way because whites are dominant.
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@Greyparrot
All cultures are not equal bro. Some are downright toxic and don't deserve to exist.
Yes, I guess we should genocide them too. Day of the rope, amirite?
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@Greyparrot
@bmdrocks21
Meanwhile, we are dealing with "Nazis are a superior culture due to genetics" horsecrap.
You're the one defending Nazis and saying white people are superior.
I'm just extrapolating your guys' "might makes right" ethos to its natural conclusion.
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@bmdrocks21
They clearly weren't.
Well, they successfully killed 6 million Jews.
You generalized about what right-wing people think of "protesters".
Reread what I said. I said that SOME right-wing people think that, not all.
Could you point out exactly where I said that?
Post 60. You said that "If whites leave and their communities go into the crapper..." and "If they come back and things become higher quality and higher-priced...".
You clearly think that whites leaving will make their communities "go into the crapper", and that "things become higher quality" if "[the whites] come back".
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@RationalMadman
Talk about double standards lol
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@RationalMadman
I'm dealing with people who think that the settlers had an inherent right to kill off the indigenous tribes because of their 'dominant culture'. Yeah, ikr.
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@bmdrocks21
Now that's a hot take.
What? According to you, genocide is fine because other people were doing it. Just that the Nazis were more successful.
Wow, I didn't know you felt this way.
I don't. You do. That statement was what I got from your point about black people in #60:
If whites leave and their communities go in the crapper, it is "white flight". If they come back and things become higher quality and higher priced, it is "gentrification".
Why did you capitalize "whites" but not "blacks"? Are you a flaming racist or something?
Because we all know whites are better, like you said. duh
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@Greyparrot
Dominant culture writes the rules.
Yeah, I guess so. I guess it must be their superior genetics and pure Aryan bloodline that made them dominant cultures. I guess that since the Nazis were dominant in Continental Europe in WWII, they had the inherent right to kill those "inferior" to them.
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@bmdrocks21
And black people say white people are the problem for literally every issue. If whites leave and their communities go in the crapper, it is "white flight". If they come back and things become higher quality and higher priced, it is "gentrification".Not finishing high school and have over 70% out of wedlock births leading to crime and poverty? Must be the evil white man and his darn "systemic racism".
Yup, cuz we all know that Whites are the civilized ones, and blacks are savages who only contribute to societal decay.
Guess it makes genocide okay when you put it like that.It does, I'm glad we agree.
Yup, I guess the Nazis killing the Jews was also ok. I'm glad we agree.
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@sadolite
The dialogue from #26-#61 should give you a pretty good glimpse into what left-wing and right-wing thinking are.
Especially the ones about the Native American genocide.
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@Greyparrot
Cultural genocides have been going on way before the fall of Rome and long after the fall of Seattle.
Guess it makes actual genocide okay when you put it like that.
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@Greyparrot
Do you think that all Americans have equal opportunities in the year 2020?
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@bmdrocks21
We did what tribes were doing to each other for generations. We were just more successful at it.
Guess it makes genocide okay when you put it like that.
Guess that makes burning down cities okay when you put it like that.
You missed my point here. What some on the right are saying is that the rioters are mostly black people, and therefore black people are an issue.
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@RationalMadman
Riots are what Jake Paul did. Guess what ethnicity he is.
The far-right will probably say he adopted a "n***** identity" or something like that lol
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@RationalMadman
Here is another controversial statement:
If you are an American of European descent (by America, I mean North and South America), then you are here because your ancestors stole the land and killed most of the individuals on it.
Another one just for the sake of it:
They say that black "rioters" are ruining the country, even though their ancestors were the ones who forcibly brought the "rioters'" ancestors over here in the first place.
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@bmdrocks21
Before we continue, please clarify what your position is. Are you for all immigrants to learn English as a second language, or are you for prohibiting all languages but English from being used in public?
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@RationalMadman
I don't know. You'd have to ask GP
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@Greyparrot
Here's a controversial statement:
Not all immigrants are criminals who ignore laws.
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@Greyparrot
Yes, like the good folks at Herbalife.
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@Greyparrot
Plus everyone knows that the best way to mask the flavor of something is to blend it [1].
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@bmdrocks21
Certain types of fondue can cause disease. [1]
You've obviously never had a good caesar salad before.
Word salads are useful. Without them, how can conspiracy theorists and apologists make their arguments?
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@bmdrocks21
There is substantial evidence that one's ability to learn new languages decreases with age. Thus, those who are forced to become fluent in English will inevitably be unable to learn it to nearly the same degree as those who speak English as their first language. This can result in those people facing many obstacles in a society where they are expected to only speak English, which greatly reduces their potential to contribute to society. This negatively impacts the economy, which then places a greater burden on the average taxpayer.
America was, is, and will most likely always be a nation of immigrants. These immigrants bring with them their unique cultures, stories, and practical wisdom with their languages, which in turn makes America more diverse as a whole. Diversity is not a weakness, but instead a glorious strength. If everyone is forced to learn English, then these shared experiences get lost amongst children of immigrants (more so than it already is), especially if they are simultaneously discouraged from speaking their native tongue. This has a profound negative effect on the nation as a whole, as once they lose their cultural connections to their ancestors, we lose out on them too.
Two pretty decent reasons to not force English fluency onto everyone.
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@bmdrocks21
And we all know that salads are icky, so therefore lefties bad.
Also, we all know that salads are healthy, so therefore lefties good ;)
#FeelingsDontCareAboutYourFacts
#notthenameofabanneduseronDART
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@bmdrocks21
Are you saying that everyone should be forced to learn the language that most people in the US speak? Sure, not learning English would make some interactions more difficult, but why should everyone be forced to learn it?
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@RationalMadman
I would do that if I were able to edit my post.
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@bmdrocks21
learn our language (English)
The US doesn't have an official language (as much as some on the right try to insist that it does).
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Poll tally (updated 06/14/2020, 5:00 pm PT):
Of 12 votes total...
1. Do you agree or disagree with the removal of the following clause in the new COC?
5 Yes
5 No
2 Abstain
2. Are you for or against mods being allowed to vote in future MEEPs?
8 No
2 Yes3
1 Abstain
1 Yes1
0 Yes2
3. Are you for or against votes being reported on (and possibly removed) after the voting period is finished?
5 Yes2
3 No
3 Abstain
1 Yes1
4. Are you for or against the implementation of a polling section in DART?
8 Yes
3 No
1 Abstain
5. Are you for or against the implementation of advertisements on DART?
6 Yes3
3 Yes4
2 Abstain
1 No
0 Yes1
0 Yes2
** If you find any errors or discrepancies in this tally, please do not hesitate to let me know :)
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@RationalMadman
I understand that the wording seems a bit confusing, but "No" indeed does mean that you believe mods should be able to vote in MEEPs the same way that any other user can.
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Poll tally (updated 06/13/2020, 5:30 pm PT):
Of 11 votes total...
1. Do you agree or disagree with the removal of the following clause in the new COC?
5 Yes
4 No
2 Abstain
2. Are you for or against mods being allowed to vote in future MEEPs?
8 No
2 Yes3
1 Abstain
0 Yes1
0 Yes2
3. Are you for or against votes being reported on (and possibly removed) after the voting period is finished?
4 Yes2
3 No
3 Abstain
1 Yes1
4. Are you for or against the implementation of a polling section in DART?
7 Yes
3 No
1 Abstain
5. Are you for or against the implementation of advertisements on DART?
6 Yes3
3 Yes4
1 No
1 Abstain
0 Yes1
0 Yes2
** If you find any errors or discrepancies in this tally, please do not hesitate to let me know :)
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@RationalMadman
Okay. If no one objects to this, I will list the polls like that.
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Poll tally (updated 06/13/2020, 3:17 pm PT):
Of 11 votes total...
1. Do you agree or disagree with the removal of the following clause in the new COC?
5 Yes
4 No
2 Abstain
2. Are you for or against mods being allowed to vote in future MEEPs?
0 Yes1
0 Yes2
2 Yes3
8 No
1 Abstain
3. Are you for or against votes being reported on (and possibly removed) after the voting period is finished?
1 Yes1
4 Yes2
3 No
3 Abstain
4. Are you for or against the implementation of a polling section in DART?
7 Yes
3 No
1 Abstain
5. Are you for or against the implementation of advertisements on DART?
0 Yes1
1 Yes2
5 Yes3
3 Yes4
1 No
1 Abstain
** If you find any errors or discrepancies in this tally, please do not hesitate to let me know :)
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@ILikePie5
I acknowledge our differences on this subject, and I respect your decision to end this conversation. I will likewise respectfully end our conversation here as well. Thank you for the conversation we had.
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@RationalMadman
Like this?
Poll tally (updated 06/13/2020, 11:50am PT):Of 11 votes total...1. Do you agree or disagree with the removal of the following clause in the new COC?6 Yes3 No2 Abstain2. Are you for or against mods being allowed to vote in future MEEPs?0 Yes10 Yes22 Yes38 No1 Abstain3. Are you for or against votes being reported on (and possibly removed) after the voting period is finished?1 Yes14 Yes23 No3 Abstain4. Are you for or against the implementation of a polling section in DART?7 Yes3 No1 Abstain5. Are you for or against the implementation of advertisements on DART?0 Yes11 Yes25 Yes33 Yes41 No1 Abstain** If you find any errors or discrepancies in this tally, please do not hesitate to let me know :)
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@fauxlaw
You and I have disagreements on this subject, and I fully accept that. I thank you for the conversation we had and agree to end it here.
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Poll tally (updated 06/13/2020, 11:50am PT):
Of 11 votes total...
1. Do you agree or disagree with the removal of the following clause in the new COC?
6 Yes, 3 No, 2 Abstain
2. Are you for or against mods being allowed to vote in future MEEPs?
0 Yes1, 0 Yes2, 2 Yes3, 8 No, 1 Abstain
3. Are you for or against votes being reported on (and possibly removed) after the voting period is finished?
1 Yes1, 4 Yes2, 3 No, 3 Abstain
4. Are you for or against the implementation of a polling section in DART?
7 Yes, 3 No, 1 Abstain
5. Are you for or against the implementation of advertisements on DART?
0 Yes1, 1 Yes2, 5 Yes3, 3 Yes4, 1 No, 1 Abstain
** If you find any errors or discrepancies in this tally, please do not hesitate to let me know :)
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@fauxlaw
Ok, done! Thank you for clarifying!
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@ethang5
I believe that is a technical matter which would need to be brought up with the owner of this site (DebateArt.com).
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@ILikePie5
@fauxlaw
You saying conservative protests were more violent than George Floyd ones is an absolute disgrace and frankly, you should be ashamed of yourself for spreading this fake news.
Grow up.
I can see that the collective vibes of our discourse have noticeably deteriorated, and our conversations have become less than cordial. We can continue this dialogue if you want, but if our discourse is just going to degenerate into shouting matches, then I'll have to pull the plug here.
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