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@RationalMadman
So you're asking me to, essentially, infer the meaning of his vote?
I'm not him. I don't know his motives, nor can I telepathically determine it long-distance. Maybe he was serious with his vote (that it is his genuine opinion, and who am I to question it?), maybe he was trolling (the strongest case for this would be the cyclic "yes/no" pattern of his votes with no explanation). I don't know.
Now if you or anyone else were to give me a concrete reason why it's a troll vote and thus should be removed, then I could determine the verifiability of the claim and act accordingly. The same logic goes for reports.
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@Barney
Not sure why, but there seems to be a discrepancy with our voting polls (for #3 and #4):
Polling (updated 11:15am PT, May 31th):Of 20 votes total (some questions were abstained by some participants)...
- Ratify the new Code of Conduct?
82.4% in favor (14 yes, 3 no).
60.0% Yes2 (7 Yes1, 12 Yes2, 1 No).- Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?
82.4% in favor (14 Yes, 2 No).- Require a reason when submitting a report?
52.6% in favor of No1 (6 Yes, 10 No1, 1 No2).
Polling (updated 05/31/2020, 6:30pm PT):Of 20 votes total...1. Ratify the new Code of Conduct?
15 Yes, 3 No, 2 Abstain2. Allow sharing of Private Messages?7 Yes1, 12 Yes2, 1 No3. Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?13 Yes, 4 No, 3 Abstain4. Require a reason when submitting a report?5 Yes, 11 No1, 1 No2, 1 Abstain (2 Unclear)
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@fauxlaw
And why doesn't it get updated?
It is being updated. There's a MEEP going on right now to ratify the new CoC here.
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@RationalMadman
Oh, I get it now.
By telling me that someone was trolling without highlighting a legitimate reason you cleverly illustrated a flaw in the reporting system that would manifest itself under No1! You see if I were a mod and I received a report of triangle.128k's vote without any specified reason, I would have to guess at the intent of the reporter (and maybe misaddress the issue as well). But with required reasons, I would know to dismiss the report as soon as "lol" showed up as the reason for reporting!
RM, you are truly an intellectual.
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@Jeff_Goldblum
If 100,000 Americans had been gunned down by terrorists, the Republican GOP would probably use the event as a justification for the further restriction of already strict immigration laws (especially from Arab countries), just like they did after 9/11.
On the other hand, right-wing media (such as Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, among others) has downplayed the severity of COVID-19 to cover for Trump, who supported those who want to end the lockdown, explicitly against the advice of medical professionals nationwide. They also knew that by playing down the seriousness of COVID-19, they could convince their viewers (some of whom have unfortunately lost their occupations) that the lockdown is unnecessary and that the government is deliberately preventing them from working.
This significantly differed from their coverage of the Ebola outbreak, when Obama was president. Back then they tried to put the nation into a frenzy by claiming that Obama was at fault for not doing enough, despite the fact that there were only 2 deaths from Ebola.
So what do we make of this? A clear takeaway is that catastrophes (such as pandemics) can and will be made into a full-blown issue by conservative pundits when it suits their political narratives. And when it doesn't, they won't think twice about sweeping the issue under the rug.
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@triangle.128k
@K_Michael
Can you please clarify whether you meant No1 or No2 for #4? Thanks!
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@User_2006
I may have accidentally put your original No2 vote as a No1. I fixed it with the current polling update.
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Polling (updated 05/31/2020, 6:30pm PT):
Of 20 votes total...
1. Ratify the new Code of Conduct?
15 Yes, 3 No, 2 Abstain
15 Yes, 3 No, 2 Abstain
2. Allow sharing of Private Messages?
7 Yes1, 12 Yes2, 1 No
3. Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?
13 Yes, 4 No, 3 Abstain
4. Require a reason when submitting a report?
5 Yes, 11 No1, 1 No2, 1 Abstain (2 Unclear)
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Polling (updated 05/31/2020, 12:00am PT):
Of 20 votes total...
1. Ratify the new Code of Conduct?
14 Yes, 3 No, 2 Abstain, 1 Undecided
14 Yes, 3 No, 2 Abstain, 1 Undecided
2. Allow sharing of Private Messages?
7 Yes1, 12 Yes2, 1 No
3. Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?
14 Yes, 3 No, 3 Abstain
4. Require a reason when submitting a report?
5 Yes, 12 No1, 0 No2, 1 Abstain (2 Unclear)
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@Barney
You missed your mod bro blamonkey lol
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@EtrnlVw
It's a nice conversation we're having here, but as I have some stuff to do, I probably won't be able to respond to it today. I'll do some research on #32-34 and respond when I have the time.
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@EtrnlVw
Lol how would I respond? I would say it doesn't in any way negate that it could very well be the case, does it? I mean I could make up a "fallacy" called "the assumption that a Divine origin could never be the case Fallacy" and ask you how you would respond to it. I'm not assuming that God is the only explanation (although the only one that seems plausible)
Ok, so you're saying you're not sure why certain plants have certain medicinal properties and that God is just one possible explanation, right?
but unless you have an explanation as to why plants have a curative value maybe consider it as a possibility.
Maybe the plants with medicinal compounds evolved to have them because it evolutionarily benefited them too, or maybe at some point in their evolutionary line, a neutral genetic mutation occurred which produced the compound.
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@RationalMadman
Oh, ok. I don't use the mobile site often, so I didn't notice. Good to know
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@BrotherDThomas
YOUR SICKLY QUOTE
Heh. I'll admit, you do have a way with words.
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Alright let's get this back on track
Polling (updated 05/29/2020, 4:20pm PT):Of 20 votes total...1. Ratify the new Code of Conduct?
14 Yes, 3 No, 2 Abstain, 1 Undecided2. Allow sharing of Private Messages?7 Yes1, 12 Yes2, 1 No3. Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?14 Yes, 3 No, 3 Abstain4. Require a reason when submitting a report?5 Yes, 12 No1, 0 No2, 1 Abstain (2 Unclear)
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@DebateArt.com
No problem! Also, there are two versions of DART? I never noticed lol
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@RationalMadman
@Christen
सचमुच सभी को इस बारे में पता है
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@RationalMadman
Тэр бичлэгийг орчуулахад надад 5 секунд зарцуулсан.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
그는 단순히 재미를 좋아하지 않는다.
ฉันรู้และเห็นด้วยอย่างสมบูรณ์
wow...
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@RationalMadman
Sérieusement, ce n'est pas difficile de traduire quelque chose que quelqu'un a dit dans une langue étrangère en anglais.
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@User_2006
Как я уже сказал, это Google Translate
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@Discipulus_Didicit
外国語でのみ合理的な狂人に話す方針を策定する
انا اوافق علي هذا البيان
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@EtrnlVw
While it is true that some plants do have some medicinal properties, that a healthy lifestyle is important to maintaining one's well-being, and that some medications do have potentially severe side effects (some are also ludicrously expensive, mostly due to certain pharmaceutical companies having monopolies over them), one cannot entirely discredit the role that pathogenic microbes play in causing diseases. These germs are tangible (visible through a microscope) and are responsible for most of the diseases that plague humanity.
Besides, how would a perfectly healthy human become sick from transmission (say, COVID-19) if diseases are simply the result of a deficient lifestyle? How come life expectancy a few centuries ago was significantly lower than it is today, despite all of the "remedies" being natural? Why were illnesses such as measles, polio, and even diabetes (which were rampant and almost always fatal before the advent of modern medication) not being cured by herbal medication? Why did the various plagues throughout history cause so much death when pure and wholesome treatments existed to supposedly eliminate them?
The truth is, pathogens exist, and they do cause diseases.
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@EtrnlVw
Yes God put medicinal value in plants, the botanical Kingdom is far more powerful than people realize and is definitely an indicator we have an intelligent Maker, I mean there are herbs for specific organs for God's sake! You can really see the difference in God's knowledge and use of healing as opposed to the medical community, with the right herbs there is no fear of death and severe side effects or any at all for that matter. Just take a good look at the warnings and possible side-effects of your next dose of prescription drugs.
So how would you respond to something like this?
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Polling (updated 05/29/2020, 11:30am PT):
Of 20 votes total...
1. Ratify the new Code of Conduct?
14 Yes, 3 No, 2 Abstain, 1 Undecided
14 Yes, 3 No, 2 Abstain, 1 Undecided
2. Allow sharing of Private Messages?
7 Yes1, 12 Yes2, 1 No
3. Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?
14 Yes, 3 No, 3 Abstain
4. Require a reason when submitting a report?
5 Yes, 12 No1, 0 No2, 1 Abstain (2 Unclear)
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@RationalMadman
Make it a policy in CoC to speak English.
不。
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@DebateArt.com
I think I will finish the refactoring to make the website look good and then dedicate time to advertising instead of developing otherwise we'll never have people here.
tbh this site looks very good. It's clean, uncluttered, and has the kind of polished look that makes aesthetically pleasing.
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@DebateArt.com
@RationalMadman
@Dr.Franklin
This does raise an interesting point, though.
There is a right way to do ads, and a wrong way.
It is definitely possible to have non-intrusive ads (Google Adsense, Infolinks, etc.) which are appropriate for this site
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@skittlez09
lol
let me know how it goes bruh
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@DebateArt.com
So based off of the relative value of the potato salad and DART, I'm guessing a GoFundMe of DART would get around 10 million lol
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@User_2006
番号君NumberYou
That was supposed to say no u but it's Google Translate lol
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@DebateArt.com
I mean, someone started a GoFundMe for making a potato salad and got $55,492, so...
Ya never know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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@RationalMadman
True, but I think Christen was talking about something along the lines of an autosave feature, like the ones in Reddit or Gmail.
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@Christen
People can already share private messages without any sort of moderator approval by screenshotting the message and sending it to whoever they want to "share" it with. People can also invite others to private chat groups on other platforms like Whatsapp, and share private messages that way.
By "sharing PMs", they mean sharing it publicly in the DART forums. As for what you're talking about, there literally isn't a single thing that can be done about it (unless the mods somehow find out about the messages being sent outside of DART, or someone else finds out and reports it to mods).
Yeah. I'm on board with this. Plus i'm starting to miss billbatard. We deserve an ignorant clown that we can laugh and poke fun at from time to time. Things can actually get boring around here without those kinds of people.
Eh, some people do, some people don't. It's a matter of preferences, really.
Anyways, some suggestions I have to improve the site overall would be to make it so that you can save rough drafts of your debate arguments in your debates and come back to it later, and also save rough drafts of your forum posts. Like if i'm debating someone, and I type half of my argument, but then it's like my bedtime or something, I want to be able to save that argument as a rough draft and come back to it later the next day to finish typing the other half of my argument. Sites like Reddit already let you do this, so I don't see why this site can't do that too. Right now, you have to either finish your entire argument, or delete your entire argument and re-type everything later when you have more time. You could also copy your current half of your argument and paste into something like notepad and save it so you could come back to it and copy and re-paste everything, but then it loses the formatting and stuff.
This is actually a really good idea (honestly not sure why no one's thought of it before).
Also, I made another suggestion a while back to make it possible to filter out debates where rounds were forfeited, and even Virtuoso was on board with this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3847-there-should-be-an-option-to-filter-out-debates-in-which-rounds-were-forfeited
Yeah, there should be a sorting option to filter these out.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
There's no need to be so jealous that my effulgent prose has inspired such ardent emulation. Work hard enough, and you can reach the same heights!頑張れ
確かに
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Yup I got that already
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@RationalMadman
Good point, but like DebateArt.com said, it's not entirely obvious.
Having a debate list specifically for this would still direct attention to it better than the sorting category.
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Added05.27.20 04:20PMMy vote:
- Ratify the new Code of Conduct?
Yes!- Allow sharing of Private Messages?
Yes1, the truth will set us free.- Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?
Yes, but S&G shouldn't exist as a point.- Require a reason when submitting a report?
No1
Added05.28.20 09:04AMMy vote:
- Ratify the new Code of Conduct?
Yes!- Allow sharing of Private Messages?
Yes1, the truth will set us free.- Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?
Yes, but S&G shouldn't exist as a point.- Require a reason when submitting a report?
No1
Added05.28.20 09:23AMMy vote:
- Ratify the new Code of Conduct?
Yes!- Allow sharing of Private Messages?
Yes1, the truth will set us free.- Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?
Yes, but S&G shouldn't exist as a point.- Require a reason when submitting a report?
No1
THE HIVEMIND STRIKES AGAIN lol
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Polling (updated 05/28/2020, 10:30am PT):
Of 14 votes total...
1. Ratify the new Code of Conduct?
11 Yes, 3 No
11 Yes, 3 No
2. Allow sharing of Private Messages?
8 Yes1, 5 Yes2, 1 No
3. Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?
10 Yes, 2 No, 2 Abstain
4. Require a reason when submitting a report?
2 Yes, 11 No1, 0 No2 (1 unclear)
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@Barney
I think you mean if Yes1 gains a simple majority... It's a scale, with Yes2 being the medium option. Both Yes options are opposed to the status quo, but both Yes2 and No are presumably opposed to outright dropping that specific rule as seen with Yes1.
Oh, I misread the question. Whoops.
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@User_2006
Yes, you were trolling on that account, I am sure of it.
I mean, by the time I came along (early 2019), there was pretty much nothing left to be serious about.
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