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@Lunatic
@Vader
@WaterPhoenix
@SirAnonymous
See above
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Okay guys post your roles now
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It is the time to again raise the Virtuoso replacement of Bsh1 idea.
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@Castin
What is your role?
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@Speedrace
Wait, so we can't actually lynch?
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Dark Crystal Mafia DP5
With that said,

VTL SupaDudz
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@Greyparrot
If you turn out to be scum, then you did a mighty fine job this game. 
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I just want to say one more thing before I VTL:

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I've made my decision. It ultimately came down to whom I had more reasons to lynch for. I will provide a full analysis of my thought process in the endgame. 
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Quick Mafia
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A report is needed to clear everything up
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@bsh1
5K Achievement: HAHA It's a joke... get it?

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The Bsh1 Report
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@bsh1
5K Achievement: HAHA It's a joke... get it?


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@Lunatic
@Greyparrot
@Vader
I know

Kind of. I had to do my argument for the KCA debate as well, so I'll have it done by the end of tomorrow
Sorry, I meant by the end of today.
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@Vader
Kind of. I had to do my argument for the KCA debate as well, so I'll have it done by the end of tomorrow
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A true confession
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@Vader
CYKA BLYAT!!! THE MOST HEINOUS CRIME OF ALL!!!

69 YEARS OF GULAG FOR YOU!!!

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After Laughter QF Mafia
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@WaterPhoenix
I didn't get any message at all from AROSE about this so I assume so
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Actually no... I confess, but do not apologize.
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@coal
Not apology accepted
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@Greyparrot
@Vader
I'll have to comb through all the information from DP1 until now, and compile it into a resolution which I will then base my VTL off of. This should be done by the end of tomorrow, if not then the day after that. 
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@Vader
Speed was town. He would legit have no reason to lie. Can you show me where he lied exactly?
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@Greyparrot
@Vader
Why did you guys both ask me to lynch you?
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@Greyparrot
I'm just asking you to reiterate your scum claims, that's all. 
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@Greyparrot
@Vader
Do you guys agree about the post made in #126?
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@Greyparrot
@Vader
I still have plenty of time left to VTL, which is why I want to be entirely sure. I thought up of a way to do just that:

In the spirit of this site (it is named Debateart.com, after all), I have decided to start a mini debate between Supa and GP. This is the prompt:

Please reiterate your arguments about why the other person is scum in a unified, coherent, debate argument (with points and reasoning to back up those points). Please also provide the proper citations of sources (basically just post the link) for each of your points. After both sides have made their argument, each person will have one round to rebut the opponent's points. 



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@Greyparrot
@Vader
I'll only vote if I have 100% confidence in it.
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@Vader
Or more specifically, what gambit were you trying to do and what was the objective?
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@Vader
Well I took a gambit and forgot he claimed that.Shit
What "gambit" are you referring to?


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@Lunatic
He was the only who did not hop on the Drafter wagon when he flipped scum, proving his allegiance with drafter
At what date and time did you message GP that he was going to replace Mharman? 


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@Vader
A doctor role is the same as a roleblocker in mafia, both preventing actions from happening
A doctor role prevents an NK from taking place (given that doc chooses correct target). Roleblocker, on the other hand, prevents any action from an RB'd person from happening, regardless of the role. They're not the same.




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@Greyparrot
With that said, since both you and Pie claimed to be Roleblocked NP3, it implies that the final scum has both lynching and multiblocking abilities. This seems kinda overpowered, especially since it's only a game of 10 (with 2 vanilla)
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@Vader
You claimed that GP was lying about being even-night doctor because he claimed to be RB'd during NP3. I asked him how that could be the case, which he responded with Pie's claim of being roleblocked as well. With that being said, it was proven that passive roleblocks are a thing, meaning that it is entirely possible that GP had been RB'd NP3. Since you claimed that your role only worked once (which you were RB'd NP1), your RB on NP2 (which you just recently claimed) would've been passive, since you no longer had a role at that point. You knew that the role didn't have to be active in order to be RB'd, yet you scumread GP for it.
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@Vader
I didn't blindly side with GP. I scrutinized both sides. 
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@Greyparrot
@Vader
Ok guys from here on out for every claim you guys make that the other is scum, could you please provide source links to it? Thanks
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@Vader
If you were blocked both NP1 and NP2, and your ability could only be used once, that means that you knew passive roleblocks are a thing. Yet in DP4 and DP5, you stated that GP was lying because he claimed he was passively roleblocked in NP3.

The math doesn't add up here.
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@Greyparrot
@Vader
Both of you are claiming you got blocked NP2

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@Vader
Also another interesting thing to note:
Here you claim that Pie was your first townread:
Because he was the only one I legitimately trusted since he claimed a Miller quickly, unlike normal play, and that was town in my eyes
Yet here, you claim that Pie is scum:
Pie won’t listen cause he’ll play off of GP cause their mafia buddies and lynch the townie that got fucked by the roleblocker
Can you explain?


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@Vader
Pie claimed he was roleblocked as a miller. Miller doesn't have any active abilities, yet he was RB'd anyways, ergo, one dos not have to have an active ability to be roleblocked.
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@Vader
It's now clear that someone can be RBed even if they don't have an action (as demonstrated by Pie's post). What else makes you think that GP is scum?
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@Greyparrot
Good point. It's now clear that RB can apply to someone even if they don't have an action. I thought otherwise, but now it's clear.
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@Vader
See comment above
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Can you show me the post where GP specifically stated that he tried to heal Oro DP3?
Sorry, I meant NP3


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@Vader
Can you show me the post where GP specifically stated that he tried to heal Oro DP3?
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@Vader
you said this dp in np3 you tried to heal oro but were blocked
Where did GP say he healed oro? He just said that Oro died in the night.


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@Greyparrot
Can you show me the specific post where Pie said he was roleblocked?
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@Greyparrot
This is what I found on here:
A Roleblocker prevents their target using active roles (such as Cop investigations and Doctor protections). Passive abilities, such as a Bulletproof player's kill immunity or a Mason's ability to privately talk, are not affected. More simply - if the player has to submit an action to the moderator, a Roleblocker can block it.
Meaning that RBs prevent actions submitted to mods from being made. If no actions are submitted, then there is no RB. How could you be RB'd if you didn't make any action NP3?

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@Lunatic
Can you answer my other question? (here)
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@Lunatic
Is it possible to be roleblocked even if your role doesn't apply on that day? 
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@Vader
Oh wait nvm ignore the question (it was made before my page refreshed). I'll review the links you posted. 
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@Vader
Not now

Oopsies not gonna edit
So, are you unable to find the part where he claims odd-day? If so, then why did you claim he did?
Also, what does this post mean in general?


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@Vader
Also looking over the plot for clues, why the fuck would Jen be a doctor in this? In the movie, he had no role besides being the chosen one... he didn't have a legit power besides playing his flute and revealing the crystal that was the right one. if anything, he would be a cop.
In the Wiki, I did find this:


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@Vader
Because I recall that's what she said
1. GP is a he, not a she lol
2. Are you able to cite the specific post?


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@Vader
GP can do his action on odd days, but never did.
Why do you claim this?


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