Real life has really gotten in the way in both a sense of how tired I am and how busy I am, I will pump something out on time hopefully but it's actually a good thing you pushed it later.
I found out from a debate challenge that Lancelot thinks Rino is said as Rhino. He listens so little to this god of rap that he never heard him say or rhyme his own name. Sad.
Tristan Tate is a wannabe Andrew Tate and Sneako is a wannabe Tristan Tate. The problem is that despite what people would assume, the toxicity increases not decreases along the 'wannabe' line there. Sneako understands the superficial and bad parts of the Andrew Tate 'brand' of social media influence, he doesn't grasp the other side of it. Even Andrew Tate caught onto it and subliminally threatened Sneako as Sneako begged his way into the 'Emergency Room' meeting that they originally ignored his request for. Andrew could smell the 'snake' on this guy a mile away.
That's amusing of course as 'cobra' Tate is certainly a snake to many others I have no doubt. However, Sneako is so obvious about it.
We had to get it going and it benefits him to force me to do that in Round 1. It is fine, there is not much room in this for Con to abuse semantics and only 3 key definitions need to be given (membership is intuitively defined).
During this debate, I implied people would default to having unbiased yet active interest in News if SM wasn't their NDP. If you had honed in on the ignorance without SM being significant and focused on the fact different societies would be affected differently as well as giving examples of good of SM as NDP such as the ALS campaign etc, you would have left me drowning in points I could not cover in 10k if I did not want to leave my own case unguarded.
just shut the fuck up, close your eyes and listen and know you are never ever going to be that good a rapper unless you mimic his style a bit here and there. It's humbling, bow before him. There is no shame in stanning.
He can rap about nonsense better than you can rap about your favourite topic.
There are lots of corny rappers who are brilliant at 1v1 rap but who will be losing due to their corniness, I actually think if I were a rapper this is how I would lose a rap battle if I lost one.
You have rappers like Hopsin, Ekoh, Vin Jay, Merkules, Chris Webby, Snow Tha Product (woman) and more. They are FIRE and ALSO have shown they can truly dig in to people but somehow they come off corny and too sophisticated for most rap fans to enjoy at times. There is a whole unseen part of battle rap which is to not be too clever or deep at the wrong time if you want a dumb crowd to cheer for you.
The female rapper sa-roc could body anybody in the game btw. The fact she is a woman adds to the humiliation of it, giving her a severe and unfair edge even she would not feel proud to bring up or win based on. K Rino would not feel comfortable dissing a goddess of rap like that either
If you want to ask me if I think anyone can beat K Rino, honestly potentially nobody but Vinnie Paz or Apathy stand a strong chance because they are from a ruthless horrorcore background but do not have the typical lyrical laziness or typical ways of it. Pharaohe Monch is a hybrid of what K Rino is and horrorcore rappers.
I would actually want to see Pharaohe Monch in beef but everyone is too scared and he lets them be to my knowledge. Apathy is allied with both Vinnie and Pharaohe and would far sooner align with K Rino than beef with him. Apathy is the smartest rapper ever at who he aligned with on his rise. He played the game perfectly, he has his own thing Demigodz while aligning with Vinnie's AOTP on the rise and never unnecessarily beefing despite being very capable to.
Are you asking to do it, who I think will win or who the rap game's majority would say won?
K Rino would lyrically mutilate Tupac but Tupac would win to most, not to me and not to Type1/Sparrow who used to be here.
Tupac is like JayZ, yes he was good but my god is he glorified waaaaay too high. He was lyrically medium, he was a delivery and topic-picking specialist.
Big L vs Eminem would potentially happen. Big L had he lived, would rap with the kind of underground horrorcore types who do not respect Em like the rest of the rap game does.
But Method Man vs K-Rino would never ever happen. Method Man knows his role, if he does not go for K, K will let him be. If he goes for K... I would be scared shit against K-Rino. He is a monstrosity. He is the one rapper Eminem was scared to reply to. Do not fool yourself.
K and Method Man have mutual respect but 1v1 there is no question who would win.
You are picking rappers who are mediocre at battle rap and amazing at rapping in groups and trying to pit them 1v1 in rap battle format. Eminem and K-Rino are battle rap GODS, you only stand a chance because the voters do not comprehend much. Like dude, Weaver gave some of my mediocres savage and savages lite... lol. I actually dont have a clue why he didn't give you more 'that was gay's you had like 2 gay bars per round
Also, you should give all 7 points to the one you think won unless you think it was very close like Weaver did, at least that's my take. This should have been 'winner selection'.
in the end, he had an extra savage point because you corrected it wrong and you took me referring ti the burn of diarrhea as a gay line but I don't think all Eminem bars land correctly on a first listen/reading so that is true go Eminem's style. It did also refer to butthurt.
indeed, there was SO MUCH that the Con sides of this missed on all 3. I kind of wish I'd taken Con instead of Pro now. I knew Pro had the more straightforward/defensive case to make but Con had so many left-field angles if they dug deep. They could drown Pro in example after example of real-world beneficial examples of SM as an NDP helping society.
Your debate and the Lancelot vs Austin debate both have 4 judges.
4 Judges with winner selection instead of 4-section allocation ends up with ties viable. This is why debates that have limited judges should always have an odd number.
if you redo the challenge or even ask me to do it with me posting rounds first as the instigator, rated, can we please redo that novice challenge. Life got in the way. I am so busy until Friday
Real life has really gotten in the way in both a sense of how tired I am and how busy I am, I will pump something out on time hopefully but it's actually a good thing you pushed it later.
hear your heart**
Ill decline if it stays written as Rhino
I found out from a debate challenge that Lancelot thinks Rino is said as Rhino. He listens so little to this god of rap that he never heard him say or rhyme his own name. Sad.
Its rino, as in reeno
Tristan Tate is a wannabe Andrew Tate and Sneako is a wannabe Tristan Tate. The problem is that despite what people would assume, the toxicity increases not decreases along the 'wannabe' line there. Sneako understands the superficial and bad parts of the Andrew Tate 'brand' of social media influence, he doesn't grasp the other side of it. Even Andrew Tate caught onto it and subliminally threatened Sneako as Sneako begged his way into the 'Emergency Room' meeting that they originally ignored his request for. Andrew could smell the 'snake' on this guy a mile away.
That's amusing of course as 'cobra' Tate is certainly a snake to many others I have no doubt. However, Sneako is so obvious about it.
We had to get it going and it benefits him to force me to do that in Round 1. It is fine, there is not much room in this for Con to abuse semantics and only 3 key definitions need to be given (membership is intuitively defined).
During this debate, I implied people would default to having unbiased yet active interest in News if SM wasn't their NDP. If you had honed in on the ignorance without SM being significant and focused on the fact different societies would be affected differently as well as giving examples of good of SM as NDP such as the ALS campaign etc, you would have left me drowning in points I could not cover in 10k if I did not want to leave my own case unguarded.
Even if big L hit that tier it still wouldn't happen that the other 2 look bad in comparison, they are peak.
Big L had jagged flow by nature and very little punchline quality.
And, not to hate on Method Man as such, he is a mediocre pion compared to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5d5HdQAHJY
FUCK that is just FUCK that is not that catchy, it isn't on my most replayed unlike some of K's others tracks for sure but FUCK.
LYRICAL ANNIHILATION ON EVERY LEVEL.
rhyme scheme, flow, metaphors, depth... oh god
My friend to put Big L against this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9STycYUCfs
just shut the fuck up, close your eyes and listen and know you are never ever going to be that good a rapper unless you mimic his style a bit here and there. It's humbling, bow before him. There is no shame in stanning.
He can rap about nonsense better than you can rap about your favourite topic.
:) there is nothing I can say that isn't an insult to them.
In sha'Allah this stays unrated
OH NO I MEANT BASE-9 not base-3 at the end of my round 3 that was a brainfart, please quote this comment if you want to prove I meant that idc
Challenge me to this please, unrated since people dont know how to analyse raps here.
It is strange, it flows like Rino but the simplicity of it is so anti Rino.
This was not close. Wtf. 30% of your raps did not properly rhyme or flow like at all..
How did you decide how many points to give the winner in your vote?
That you much like Wylted are not nearly as funny as you think you are.
You are either going to ace this or make me hate you for taking it. Do K-Rino proud.
There are lots of corny rappers who are brilliant at 1v1 rap but who will be losing due to their corniness, I actually think if I were a rapper this is how I would lose a rap battle if I lost one.
You have rappers like Hopsin, Ekoh, Vin Jay, Merkules, Chris Webby, Snow Tha Product (woman) and more. They are FIRE and ALSO have shown they can truly dig in to people but somehow they come off corny and too sophisticated for most rap fans to enjoy at times. There is a whole unseen part of battle rap which is to not be too clever or deep at the wrong time if you want a dumb crowd to cheer for you.
Actually you know what? Black Thought at his most aggro could beat K Rino, he is undissable af and has fire.
The female rapper sa-roc could body anybody in the game btw. The fact she is a woman adds to the humiliation of it, giving her a severe and unfair edge even she would not feel proud to bring up or win based on. K Rino would not feel comfortable dissing a goddess of rap like that either
I mean I like them but pharaohe is more your style. I did not name my fave rappers other than vinnie. I named rappers that are Great at battle rap.
There is a rapper called Russ, for example. He is not that great at battle rap and does not need to be. Same with a rapper called Locksmith.
They are fantastic rappers but they do not exactly show the capacity to truly tear into someone personally.
Tech is great but Tech is a sellout to the mainstream, K Rino would bring it up relentlessly.
If you want to ask me if I think anyone can beat K Rino, honestly potentially nobody but Vinnie Paz or Apathy stand a strong chance because they are from a ruthless horrorcore background but do not have the typical lyrical laziness or typical ways of it. Pharaohe Monch is a hybrid of what K Rino is and horrorcore rappers.
I would actually want to see Pharaohe Monch in beef but everyone is too scared and he lets them be to my knowledge. Apathy is allied with both Vinnie and Pharaohe and would far sooner align with K Rino than beef with him. Apathy is the smartest rapper ever at who he aligned with on his rise. He played the game perfectly, he has his own thing Demigodz while aligning with Vinnie's AOTP on the rise and never unnecessarily beefing despite being very capable to.
Are you asking to do it, who I think will win or who the rap game's majority would say won?
K Rino would lyrically mutilate Tupac but Tupac would win to most, not to me and not to Type1/Sparrow who used to be here.
Tupac is like JayZ, yes he was good but my god is he glorified waaaaay too high. He was lyrically medium, he was a delivery and topic-picking specialist.
Big L vs Eminem would potentially happen. Big L had he lived, would rap with the kind of underground horrorcore types who do not respect Em like the rest of the rap game does.
But Method Man vs K-Rino would never ever happen. Method Man knows his role, if he does not go for K, K will let him be. If he goes for K... I would be scared shit against K-Rino. He is a monstrosity. He is the one rapper Eminem was scared to reply to. Do not fool yourself.
K and Method Man have mutual respect but 1v1 there is no question who would win.
You are picking rappers who are mediocre at battle rap and amazing at rapping in groups and trying to pit them 1v1 in rap battle format. Eminem and K-Rino are battle rap GODS, you only stand a chance because the voters do not comprehend much. Like dude, Weaver gave some of my mediocres savage and savages lite... lol. I actually dont have a clue why he didn't give you more 'that was gay's you had like 2 gay bars per round
Yeah and they dont vote, athias will prefer your style esp as method man, over k rino style, so will vader.
At least method man can genuinely rhyme with deadly formations.
Show me votes that are competent and show rap knowledge in our other battle and I will take this.
Weaver is not the audience I am going for.
Also, you should give all 7 points to the one you think won unless you think it was very close like Weaver did, at least that's my take. This should have been 'winner selection'.
That is unfair on me? I would like you to vote please.
It is ashame you didnt rate flow and rhyme scheme, nor comeback disses or carryover metaphors.
in the end, he had an extra savage point because you corrected it wrong and you took me referring ti the burn of diarrhea as a gay line but I don't think all Eminem bars land correctly on a first listen/reading so that is true go Eminem's style. It did also refer to butthurt.
Lol. Make your case to the voting mods then.
I got confused which debate I was voting on, had read a replica of this before and was on phone.
Mindfuck
They have 2 of the same debate what??
Reptile problems.
Bump
indeed, there was SO MUCH that the Con sides of this missed on all 3. I kind of wish I'd taken Con instead of Pro now. I knew Pro had the more straightforward/defensive case to make but Con had so many left-field angles if they dug deep. They could drown Pro in example after example of real-world beneficial examples of SM as an NDP helping society.
please factor in turning one's insults against them, being true to the represented artist's rap style and 'flow' of the internal rhyming.
fact not fake* round 3
Your debate and the Lancelot vs Austin debate both have 4 judges.
4 Judges with winner selection instead of 4-section allocation ends up with ties viable. This is why debates that have limited judges should always have an odd number.
more voters will actually uphold that if the other side is making an abusive truism debate.
I won't say more. I'll let this play out. I can potentially snipe it in Round 2 but would much rather this a proper 3 round debate as intended
It's whatever, the tournament takes priority to me and I ended up swamped with work and stuff
if you redo the challenge or even ask me to do it with me posting rounds first as the instigator, rated, can we please redo that novice challenge. Life got in the way. I am so busy until Friday
wtf happens if you tie? LOL