Yes in a way in a debate we should. We default to pure elastic thinking and adapt like a jellyfish turning into an octopus from thoughtless blobs to whatever the debates turns us into.
0 preconceptions biasing.us, 0 common sense, 0 abnormal sense.
The winner is the one to convert the jellyfish into an end product that leans away from the other opinion, not necessarily towards its own.
Too late to say that and you didn't back it up meaning it's Con's word Vs yours and inside Christianity it's axiomatic that evil is what God says it is.
Lancelot didn't ever get banned properly after all he did, he self-banned meaning he is free to make an alt as he wishes. That's part of why I quit plus irl was getting busier.
Strong people don't need to abuse, they leave the place that related them like dirt and come back if they wish to, later on their own terms. What I am reading is simply a cold take by 2 of the closest people to suicide on this site.
Look how you talk, act and think. Look at others here too. It takes a strong person to value their mental health over taunts to stay in a place they don't enjoy.
I came back ready for abuse from you and others, I'm less invested here emotionally now. It's a shame that our friendship that formed bonding over discussing the chicken farm and whatever happened because you were a fake person. I don't like the real you, you didn't have the pretend to like the real me either. Only one of us had the privilege to meet the other with the mask off.
Change description, that's BS, make it clear this so a rap battle in the Title and not a debate. Right now if I accept you can say I accepted the rap battle and can't be against it and that you are Pro the topic.
you should allow a 'stupid' idea to win even if you think it's stupid, if it's debated and untouched by the other debater. It's a simple concept, you don't get how scoring happens in debates. BK may even lose to you in a real debate on style points but not for structure in that debate as you never defined evil
24 hours is enough to give your wife the most mindblowing orgasm of the past 3 weeks, to have worked your best day at work after or before it (do the sex after, early morning sex is only that hot in the movies/series, you're more ready than she is as females gain libido throughout the day, males have it somewhat more earlier) and to have a great meal that you yourself cooked.
I ask you is this that day? If not the time is there. Just kidding, do a workout don't waste time here.
If my 'friend' only liked me because I was timid and scared shitless to vote on his debate or because I was not brave enough to vote on a vote AGAINST the other friend, neither were my friends to begin with.
You are the fake one who is angry that you had to be timid and fake this whole time just to feel that you didn't hurt me. Hurt me all you want, you want the claws, let's bring them out my G. Gives a whole new meaning to 'you scratch my back, I scratch yours' ;).
I can handle the heat, I didn't come back to be liked, never really have. I know this site is a pit of backstabbing snakes, didn't you read my 'about me' since I returned? I know exactly what this place is and am grateful to Lancelot for helping me watch others turn a blind eye and stand by to pure abuse. I'm not here to be liked by socially awkward losers who debate online, I'm here to debate them as it's a hobby I enjoy and maybe destroy them at mafia while they think I'm shit at it maybe not. I don't care, it's a passtime and gives me a dopamine rush and even soothes some autistic urges I have to write and write and write at times.
You seem to think I come here to make friends, if you're my friend you like me not timid scared me too scared to report a vote and be who I am. You're just a douchebag who wants to bully me out of my freedom to be who I am which is ironic given what you are here and how much freedom has been granted to you to be that way. You don't have a single real friend here BK, not one. If you got permabanned right now some would only care because you were fun to laugh at, they don't give a single shit about you. I am not saying that to be cruel or make you hate yourself, this part is me teaching you to not care what people here think of you which I thought you knew given the vile crap you post here. Don't base your ego, not even slightly, on genuine friendship on a site of internet strangers that are snakes. Just do you and be proud of who you are, if they ban you for it it's their loss and they're a shit community for you to be in. You think I put on some grand fake act to gain friends, I'm the opposite dude. I'll chat with you to get you out of suicidal thoughts and encourage you to get help more than most here would but I am not your real friend, I see you for what you are and you've never really respected me or been someone I respect and that's okay. It's what we are. We aren't friends, we're internet strangers.
Mharman is my 'enemy' boo hoo you didn't save me from shit but you brough tup an interesting point unlike your usual shitposting so well done there.
and what is it i really did that they forget? Reported a vote?
I was never the bad guy here, I'm the guy the bad guys hate. Always have been, always will be, it's not even an ego thing, it's just what it is. If you haven't noticed most of this site is on the autistic spectrum or some sort of spectrum one way or another and it's a bunch of socially awkward weirdos who love to either debate, troll or both. That's just what the crowd is, making enemies is inevitable, they aren't here to make genuine friends and those that are leave the site.
If someone thinks that I reported a vote, I say I didn't and they know I'm telling the truth.
Ask yourself why they didn't believe you when you insisted you didn't. Try to be less of that guy in their eyes... Well, actually don't change who you are just to appease them, hell stay the circus clown of the site all you want buddy, just don't expect them to realise you're putting on your serious face behind the makeup.
Lancelot picked on what he saw as his greatest obstacle and rival to his ego and him being the main 'show' here. The dude was bullying others during the 2-3 month hiatus I took prior to the bigger one. He also ragequit the site for good or at least a long time and didn't make an alt we know of at least who acts like him since then because he honestly only came on here to shit on me and bully others. The reason he picked on me is I saw him for what he was, nothing more and nothing less. I respected his skill while still looking down on him and his ego couldn't handle it so he lashed out, so much so he needed to use 2 other guys from elsewhere, talk them into coming here and votebombing me into fearing to even engage in rated debates or rap battles etc, that's the level of spite and envy he had it was so pathetic I didn't even know what to say.
I was the only user rivalling his quantity plus quality of content here in his eyes, in mine he didn't equal the quality quite as much but that's very subjective as he did do quality debates and votes (prior to dedicating to votebombing me) in ways, just less so forum posts.
Idk what exactly you're saying but you don't have to read what I write or anything. You are literally hurtling abuse at me and trying to make me feel bad about myself to disturbing levels just because I voted you to win in a debate and reported a corrupt vote. You're like the opposite of a sore loser and it's so extreme it's kind of worrying. If you hate winning this much and can't handle this situation what's wrong with you.
All you do here is post garbage to entertain others, I accept that's your thing and some like your so-to-say vandalism of the website and it gives them and even me a chuckle at times. If you think I'm fragile and can't handle being bullied you're wrong, I have been around the block with that enough to tell you, I'd break you if you bullied me enough whether online or irl. I'd break your very spirit as you realise over time, you're gonna end up just like Lancelot did if you keep it up, too ashamed to even show your face and stand by the bullshit you type.
You run around here supporting pedophilia, genocide, communism and more and then constantly flip around your stances for a laugh at other's expense. You show tactical empathy to me and fishchaser and others and then flip it around as soon as you feel like it. That's your thing, I don't go around shitting on it. Don't come to me telling me that I can't value voting integrity if I'm not participating in the debate, you wouldn't say that to anyone with any other hobby about caring about theirs it's only because you're here and I seem to have 'embarassed' you or something that this happened.
Guess what? You don't give a shit about hurting me? Good. I do not give a shit about you either. Go type to the air about:
"oh nooo this guy tries hard to be high quality here and encourage standards he's such a scumbag loser blablabla"
Everyone can see YOU for what YOU are though. You're the laughing stock and/or goofy loser here in the eyes of everyone including the people laughing at and/or thinking that of me and it's sad that you're proud of being that. You're a shitposter who sometimes hits gold, well done. You're doing your thing, I'm doing mine. Judge it all you want.
I appreciate you in forum games and when goofing off. However, don't begin to think we are equals in what we bring to the site. You're the guy pissing and graffitiing, I'm the one painting masterpieces.
Don't go where you don't wanna go. I didn't return to please you and you don't interact to please me. You judge me, I judge you. We both see the other as a pathetic joke.
I value votes on this site, I value debates. I come here to debate. You don't care about anything this site is for so naturally you find me obnoxious for doing so.
You don't even know how to say thanks for a vote or go yesss I won because you have as little respect for yourself as the website itself. So kindly if you wish to ridicule me do so, I don't think Mozart cared if some street accordion player ridiculed him either.
You didn't attack him at all, you tried to be sarcastic and ended up conceding it in Round 2. You have the first BoP both as instigator and Pro of a positive affirmation.
The wrong side should always win the debate if they debated their side better.
If superior logic proves pain is caused and so-called inferior logic proves that pain doesn't equal evil, the latter wins.
You are not seeing this correctly. You saw a weak opponent seeming weak and let your guard down without paying attention to the win condition, so to speak.
The best judge approaches you as a baby or mentally challenged person it's a concept known as Tabula Rasa. From the first word of the debate they're a blank slate other than knowing enough English (or debating language if not English) to comprehend linguistics, both lexical and semantical but beyond that know NOTHING.
The only reason my vote went non-Tabula-Rasa to explain hedonism etc is to prove I grasped where you may have been leading with it as the debate went on, I can't factor in a failure to go there.
The lazier debater should always win if the opponent failed their side harder.
His Round 3 was 100% sheer trolling but the first 2 Rounds were tactical and he correctly spotted the laziest path to win this if you didn't define evil or flesh that out.
In all previous moderation (not just vote btw) actions you've never ever moderated based on gleaned intent or Lancelot would have been permad long ago and others would have been reprimanded.
What I mean is Lancelot conceded intent to collude against me with his henchmen that did the alt abuse votebombing. Everyone with a good brain here that paid attention knows this, only those who lack either deny it.
Barney, yourself and Oromagi have made clear your role is never to glean intent only to moderate output and directly probable issues.
Therefore, if this were a court of law I am even allowed to go on stand, say I intended to vote against Fishchaser and that I did and say I also think he lost.
And you're metaphorically a genius.
Yes in a way in a debate we should. We default to pure elastic thinking and adapt like a jellyfish turning into an octopus from thoughtless blobs to whatever the debates turns us into.
0 preconceptions biasing.us, 0 common sense, 0 abnormal sense.
The winner is the one to convert the jellyfish into an end product that leans away from the other opinion, not necessarily towards its own.
Why don't you ask me to vote?
In discussions of the Christian God, we'd default to Christian ethics when analysing him.
You wanted it to be unlosable for you because of some deaths or pain, instead of for the holier cause God deemed benevolent and just.
It is the only fair way to see it. Your way makes Con unable to win and is blinkered.
Too late to say that and you didn't back it up meaning it's Con's word Vs yours and inside Christianity it's axiomatic that evil is what God says it is.
It's part and parcel of calling me out. I'm epic here even if it's negatively epic.
Not my problem or fault.
Lancelot didn't ever get banned properly after all he did, he self-banned meaning he is free to make an alt as he wishes. That's part of why I quit plus irl was getting busier.
Strong people don't need to abuse, they leave the place that related them like dirt and come back if they wish to, later on their own terms. What I am reading is simply a cold take by 2 of the closest people to suicide on this site.
Look how you talk, act and think. Look at others here too. It takes a strong person to value their mental health over taunts to stay in a place they don't enjoy.
I came back ready for abuse from you and others, I'm less invested here emotionally now. It's a shame that our friendship that formed bonding over discussing the chicken farm and whatever happened because you were a fake person. I don't like the real you, you didn't have the pretend to like the real me either. Only one of us had the privilege to meet the other with the mask off.
I didn't attack first. You're wrong. You didn't look at the history in the first place.
There is a reason 7kseries doesn't want to vs you and Wylted blocked you.
Do a survey, ask which of us they appreciate more.
Problem isn't I run away, it's that I come back to this shit hole.
Can I go around quoting other users copy pasting what they say to troll them?
Good.
6/10 highest of the mentioned.
Lmao.
Stop putting Two and BSP in the same category as Madchild and Merk, Eazy Mac is in between.
Change description, that's BS, make it clear this so a rap battle in the Title and not a debate. Right now if I accept you can say I accepted the rap battle and can't be against it and that you are Pro the topic.
Change to 4k max and 3 Rounds.
If we do this will you vote for sure?
Barely anyone votes on these, these days
Reminder to vote, 3 days remain.
Or what
Veni, vidi, neglexi
Nobody votes on these anymore, I'm not interested and I've hit 10 debate max.
You don't have alt accounts. You are the alt.
You are blocked until you learn to talk with respect.
if no fair voter can vote for you, you admit to throwing this.
If you are admitting to throwing this debate to give another debater elo, you need to justify it to the mods.
you should allow a 'stupid' idea to win even if you think it's stupid, if it's debated and untouched by the other debater. It's a simple concept, you don't get how scoring happens in debates. BK may even lose to you in a real debate on style points but not for structure in that debate as you never defined evil
Maybe look at the votes reported or made. Suddenly it will get less suspicious.
How is it fair that if I vote here you will get angry and grudge me?
You made a rated debate on this, why did you do that?
aren't you the guy who says if the rules are bs, voters are free to ignore them?
20 hours left just a reminder
24 hours is enough to give your wife the most mindblowing orgasm of the past 3 weeks, to have worked your best day at work after or before it (do the sex after, early morning sex is only that hot in the movies/series, you're more ready than she is as females gain libido throughout the day, males have it somewhat more earlier) and to have a great meal that you yourself cooked.
I ask you is this that day? If not the time is there. Just kidding, do a workout don't waste time here.
For a guy so concerned with rating why make a debate that literally no criteria determine a vote wrong on?
Please vote on this debate.
shit wrote wrong title of the hollywood undead song in Round 2, right links though.
If my 'friend' only liked me because I was timid and scared shitless to vote on his debate or because I was not brave enough to vote on a vote AGAINST the other friend, neither were my friends to begin with.
You are the fake one who is angry that you had to be timid and fake this whole time just to feel that you didn't hurt me. Hurt me all you want, you want the claws, let's bring them out my G. Gives a whole new meaning to 'you scratch my back, I scratch yours' ;).
I can handle the heat, I didn't come back to be liked, never really have. I know this site is a pit of backstabbing snakes, didn't you read my 'about me' since I returned? I know exactly what this place is and am grateful to Lancelot for helping me watch others turn a blind eye and stand by to pure abuse. I'm not here to be liked by socially awkward losers who debate online, I'm here to debate them as it's a hobby I enjoy and maybe destroy them at mafia while they think I'm shit at it maybe not. I don't care, it's a passtime and gives me a dopamine rush and even soothes some autistic urges I have to write and write and write at times.
You seem to think I come here to make friends, if you're my friend you like me not timid scared me too scared to report a vote and be who I am. You're just a douchebag who wants to bully me out of my freedom to be who I am which is ironic given what you are here and how much freedom has been granted to you to be that way. You don't have a single real friend here BK, not one. If you got permabanned right now some would only care because you were fun to laugh at, they don't give a single shit about you. I am not saying that to be cruel or make you hate yourself, this part is me teaching you to not care what people here think of you which I thought you knew given the vile crap you post here. Don't base your ego, not even slightly, on genuine friendship on a site of internet strangers that are snakes. Just do you and be proud of who you are, if they ban you for it it's their loss and they're a shit community for you to be in. You think I put on some grand fake act to gain friends, I'm the opposite dude. I'll chat with you to get you out of suicidal thoughts and encourage you to get help more than most here would but I am not your real friend, I see you for what you are and you've never really respected me or been someone I respect and that's okay. It's what we are. We aren't friends, we're internet strangers.
Mharman is my 'enemy' boo hoo you didn't save me from shit but you brough tup an interesting point unlike your usual shitposting so well done there.
and what is it i really did that they forget? Reported a vote?
I was never the bad guy here, I'm the guy the bad guys hate. Always have been, always will be, it's not even an ego thing, it's just what it is. If you haven't noticed most of this site is on the autistic spectrum or some sort of spectrum one way or another and it's a bunch of socially awkward weirdos who love to either debate, troll or both. That's just what the crowd is, making enemies is inevitable, they aren't here to make genuine friends and those that are leave the site.
If someone thinks that I reported a vote, I say I didn't and they know I'm telling the truth.
Ask yourself why they didn't believe you when you insisted you didn't. Try to be less of that guy in their eyes... Well, actually don't change who you are just to appease them, hell stay the circus clown of the site all you want buddy, just don't expect them to realise you're putting on your serious face behind the makeup.
Lancelot picked on what he saw as his greatest obstacle and rival to his ego and him being the main 'show' here. The dude was bullying others during the 2-3 month hiatus I took prior to the bigger one. He also ragequit the site for good or at least a long time and didn't make an alt we know of at least who acts like him since then because he honestly only came on here to shit on me and bully others. The reason he picked on me is I saw him for what he was, nothing more and nothing less. I respected his skill while still looking down on him and his ego couldn't handle it so he lashed out, so much so he needed to use 2 other guys from elsewhere, talk them into coming here and votebombing me into fearing to even engage in rated debates or rap battles etc, that's the level of spite and envy he had it was so pathetic I didn't even know what to say.
I was the only user rivalling his quantity plus quality of content here in his eyes, in mine he didn't equal the quality quite as much but that's very subjective as he did do quality debates and votes (prior to dedicating to votebombing me) in ways, just less so forum posts.
Idk what exactly you're saying but you don't have to read what I write or anything. You are literally hurtling abuse at me and trying to make me feel bad about myself to disturbing levels just because I voted you to win in a debate and reported a corrupt vote. You're like the opposite of a sore loser and it's so extreme it's kind of worrying. If you hate winning this much and can't handle this situation what's wrong with you.
All you do here is post garbage to entertain others, I accept that's your thing and some like your so-to-say vandalism of the website and it gives them and even me a chuckle at times. If you think I'm fragile and can't handle being bullied you're wrong, I have been around the block with that enough to tell you, I'd break you if you bullied me enough whether online or irl. I'd break your very spirit as you realise over time, you're gonna end up just like Lancelot did if you keep it up, too ashamed to even show your face and stand by the bullshit you type.
You run around here supporting pedophilia, genocide, communism and more and then constantly flip around your stances for a laugh at other's expense. You show tactical empathy to me and fishchaser and others and then flip it around as soon as you feel like it. That's your thing, I don't go around shitting on it. Don't come to me telling me that I can't value voting integrity if I'm not participating in the debate, you wouldn't say that to anyone with any other hobby about caring about theirs it's only because you're here and I seem to have 'embarassed' you or something that this happened.
Guess what? You don't give a shit about hurting me? Good. I do not give a shit about you either. Go type to the air about:
"oh nooo this guy tries hard to be high quality here and encourage standards he's such a scumbag loser blablabla"
Everyone can see YOU for what YOU are though. You're the laughing stock and/or goofy loser here in the eyes of everyone including the people laughing at and/or thinking that of me and it's sad that you're proud of being that. You're a shitposter who sometimes hits gold, well done. You're doing your thing, I'm doing mine. Judge it all you want.
I appreciate you in forum games and when goofing off. However, don't begin to think we are equals in what we bring to the site. You're the guy pissing and graffitiing, I'm the one painting masterpieces.
Don't go where you don't wanna go. I didn't return to please you and you don't interact to please me. You judge me, I judge you. We both see the other as a pathetic joke.
I value votes on this site, I value debates. I come here to debate. You don't care about anything this site is for so naturally you find me obnoxious for doing so.
You don't even know how to say thanks for a vote or go yesss I won because you have as little respect for yourself as the website itself. So kindly if you wish to ridicule me do so, I don't think Mozart cared if some street accordion player ridiculed him either.
I'm going for now ttyl
You didn't attack him at all, you tried to be sarcastic and ended up conceding it in Round 2. You have the first BoP both as instigator and Pro of a positive affirmation.
The wrong side should always win the debate if they debated their side better.
If superior logic proves pain is caused and so-called inferior logic proves that pain doesn't equal evil, the latter wins.
You are not seeing this correctly. You saw a weak opponent seeming weak and let your guard down without paying attention to the win condition, so to speak.
If you wish to ridicule me for wanting rule abiding votes go right ahead. I can't bully you back as you hate yourself too much.
You keep making it about being smart.
The best judge approaches you as a baby or mentally challenged person it's a concept known as Tabula Rasa. From the first word of the debate they're a blank slate other than knowing enough English (or debating language if not English) to comprehend linguistics, both lexical and semantical but beyond that know NOTHING.
The only reason my vote went non-Tabula-Rasa to explain hedonism etc is to prove I grasped where you may have been leading with it as the debate went on, I can't factor in a failure to go there.
The lazier debater should always win if the opponent failed their side harder.
His Round 3 was 100% sheer trolling but the first 2 Rounds were tactical and he correctly spotted the laziest path to win this if you didn't define evil or flesh that out.
Then you can have consensual win trading on Rated debates where one side doesn't even lose but agrees to let voters make them lose.
In all previous moderation (not just vote btw) actions you've never ever moderated based on gleaned intent or Lancelot would have been permad long ago and others would have been reprimanded.
What I mean is Lancelot conceded intent to collude against me with his henchmen that did the alt abuse votebombing. Everyone with a good brain here that paid attention knows this, only those who lack either deny it.
Barney, yourself and Oromagi have made clear your role is never to glean intent only to moderate output and directly probable issues.
Therefore, if this were a court of law I am even allowed to go on stand, say I intended to vote against Fishchaser and that I did and say I also think he lost.