I had not properly given a full viewing to the adieu AMV when I stated my favourites earlier on. I stand by ranking it 100% that is essentially a music video in every sense.
This is explicit, extensive help from Coal to a participant in the debate. There must 100% be warnings issued and comments deleted. I am reporting publicly so that there is no confusion that Danielle did or didn't report it.
I will just score them. Note that my scoring system (which I will explain later when the voting period is over) isn't based on my own 'feeling' alone, that's a significant factor but not the only one. I rank based on if I could spot things about it that I'd improve, if it's very difficult for me to truly say I could improve it, I default it to 100% (so I work from 100 down instead of 0 up and gauge it like that).
do you want me to leave an RFD and score the AMVs? I think I won obviously but I am curious if you wanted that. I would want it from you too but I understand the problem it poses because we both could influence voters.
Benjamin's vote is a votebomb. There is no way that you can say it's 'obvious', it's a votebomb and Ragnar didn't report it to you because he is intending to win this debate.
That was another thing I think we did differently. Though, I admit 'poor taste judgement' may be a better way of putting it (in the past from me).
If you notice, I think maybe only one of these AMVs are ones I've used before, most are recent. I wanted to explore many new ones and this gave me the opportunity to. I don't want to offend weeaboos but I am not the biggest Anime junkie, I often prefer AMVs to the actual Anime, though I haven't watched enough of most to be able to truly say that. I love the art of Anime more than the general style of it. The kinds of Anime I love the crap out of have brilliant storylines and character development AS WELL AS great graphics and voice-acting (I only judge this on subbed, dubbed is unbearably cringe for me most of the time).
I am also more of a watcher than a reader, I completely disagree with the notion that smarter people enjoy books while dumber people enjoy movies and series, in Anime especially I have found no real correlation like this because often Mangas are tedious to read and require far too much piecing together of the storyline from the reader.
This is an AMV that I extremely enjoyed but I opted out of using as I was sure it's a high-risk medium-reward AMV vs most audience members on this website.
Based on supadudz's taste you'd probably have edged out the win if you chose that over one of your weaker pics in his eyes.
I set my choices up to hit a wide range of voters just in case, so we will see.
The main thing I remembered throughout is that I am picking AMVs to please the audience, not necessarily myself. I think you just went with both at once.
There are ones I dropped that I'd prefer over these but I chose these for audience pleasure, predicting what people like a lot or dislike and how to hit them hard as well as structuring my picks so I win Rounds not just overall points (because some people vote like that).
I also ordered the AMVs in rounds so that they begin with a hard-hitter that somewhat shocks you each time as it wasn't quite what you were expecting, then the middle choice is much more 'straightforward' and easy to watch while the closing pick is again meant to impress you and surprise.
I also had less than you to lose since this is Rated and I regularly 'buffer' my rating with debates, assuming I maintain as fairly 65/35 kind of winrate as things progress and my rating is also (at present) lower than yours. So, I figured even if I lose this, it was worth the gamble. It's also why I don't let myself get hooked on winstreaks like Ragnar and Oromagi, I just go for the hell of it and if it gets boring I take a break and even forfeit debates. This way, I am always in a position to 'tear down' a better rated debater quite significantly and noone can really accuse me of 'gaming the system' as I maintain one account, I just don't care as much about Rating as others do.
Even if I hadn't won the 'king of the hill' medal, I'd just roll with the punches, I was fortunate to rise fast and hard before the hardcore ones surpassed me.
There are similarities. It's named controversial debate and has semantic abuse making it essentially a truism because of how 'good' is being defined as 'got away with' primarily.
Also the description rules out all issues with him.
"As you can see, even though I am merely summarizing the article, the logic works well, the story checks out, and the studies combine together to show there's no reason that 9/11 was an inside job."
Firstly, you mean 'no reason to think it was' not 'no reason it was'.
Secondly, this is such an arrogant and foolish shouldering of BoP, I hope Con properly holds you to those words and makes you backfoot and change the BoP to be on balance if you want a hope to win.
Sources don't win debates, they prevent the other side winning and are a very defensive thing to use to back up what your saying as something more than paperweight in backing (if it's a direct claim the other side may dispute).
I have yet to see this substance but okay. I frankly think the SC is bullshit and should be abolished but if it's not, India absolutely has earned a seat at the table. The only thing you should have focused on is particular aspects of Nuclear treaty agreements that India refuses to be a part of. The rest of the 'military' stuff isn't worth bringing up.
I am shocked at how you scored some of both mine and WF (in terms of what really stood out to you and what didn't) and also what your critiques were because I misjudged your taste. The Korra one was actually specifically chosen in the hopes you'd vote but I accept your feedback. Your 10/10 and such were things I'd agree were fantastic. To me, most were 10/10 in their own way but I'll keep my opinion to myself.
Much like the rules inhibit the kungfu master in an MMA ring, the rules here restrict you. The question is if you can adapt to the enemy and situation or not ;)
Pro brings some new points or quotes in Round 3, it would be inappropriate for me to bring new rebuttals he can't reply to so disregard the new quotes.
No point in me dissing WTC so I agree. However, offer me Tribe called Quest and NWA or WTC for a concert or listening session and I'd take the former two, without hesitation. Tribe vs NWA is difficult, depends the vobe you're going for, both equally skilled and successful imo.
They're overrated imo. Not bad, just good as opposed to great. Their lyrics rarely make me go wow and their production is mediocre and flow is smooth at times, but very jagged and broken at others.
how many do you want, it will become extremely in-depth as we clash on many points and explain things.
your debate's wording and structure seems very strange to me, I will prefer this topic and dynamic. I have left it as an open challenge.
I had not properly given a full viewing to the adieu AMV when I stated my favourites earlier on. I stand by ranking it 100% that is essentially a music video in every sense.
https://www.debateart.com/debates/2988/comment-links/36791
https://www.debateart.com/debates/2988/comment-links/36793
This is explicit, extensive help from Coal to a participant in the debate. There must 100% be warnings issued and comments deleted. I am reporting publicly so that there is no confusion that Danielle did or didn't report it.
LOL so you will prove there is no reason at all?
"Could just give numbers, but they aren’t going to mean much without explanation."
I have a hypothesis that this was written by a scientist.
I will just score them. Note that my scoring system (which I will explain later when the voting period is over) isn't based on my own 'feeling' alone, that's a significant factor but not the only one. I rank based on if I could spot things about it that I'd improve, if it's very difficult for me to truly say I could improve it, I default it to 100% (so I work from 100 down instead of 0 up and gauge it like that).
My R1:
97%
95%
94%
Your R1:
84%
66%
88%
My R2:
98%
100%
100%
Your R2:
91%
73%
84%
My R3:
95%
100%
98%
Your R3:
92%
83%
100%
My R4:
98%
92%
96%
Your R4:
97%
81%
97%
do you want me to leave an RFD and score the AMVs? I think I won obviously but I am curious if you wanted that. I would want it from you too but I understand the problem it poses because we both could influence voters.
Benjamin's vote is a votebomb. There is no way that you can say it's 'obvious', it's a votebomb and Ragnar didn't report it to you because he is intending to win this debate.
take a look at his username and other debates and tell me it isn't a severe assumption on his sexist agenda.
If we make it to the nearest 0.1 out of 10, I average 8.8/10 so far and Whiteflame averages 8.6/10 on your scores
Why does it only include females?
That was another thing I think we did differently. Though, I admit 'poor taste judgement' may be a better way of putting it (in the past from me).
If you notice, I think maybe only one of these AMVs are ones I've used before, most are recent. I wanted to explore many new ones and this gave me the opportunity to. I don't want to offend weeaboos but I am not the biggest Anime junkie, I often prefer AMVs to the actual Anime, though I haven't watched enough of most to be able to truly say that. I love the art of Anime more than the general style of it. The kinds of Anime I love the crap out of have brilliant storylines and character development AS WELL AS great graphics and voice-acting (I only judge this on subbed, dubbed is unbearably cringe for me most of the time).
I am also more of a watcher than a reader, I completely disagree with the notion that smarter people enjoy books while dumber people enjoy movies and series, in Anime especially I have found no real correlation like this because often Mangas are tedious to read and require far too much piecing together of the storyline from the reader.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUsCGh5-wNI
This is an AMV that I extremely enjoyed but I opted out of using as I was sure it's a high-risk medium-reward AMV vs most audience members on this website.
Based on supadudz's taste you'd probably have edged out the win if you chose that over one of your weaker pics in his eyes.
I set my choices up to hit a wide range of voters just in case, so we will see.
The main thing I remembered throughout is that I am picking AMVs to please the audience, not necessarily myself. I think you just went with both at once.
There are ones I dropped that I'd prefer over these but I chose these for audience pleasure, predicting what people like a lot or dislike and how to hit them hard as well as structuring my picks so I win Rounds not just overall points (because some people vote like that).
I also ordered the AMVs in rounds so that they begin with a hard-hitter that somewhat shocks you each time as it wasn't quite what you were expecting, then the middle choice is much more 'straightforward' and easy to watch while the closing pick is again meant to impress you and surprise.
I also had less than you to lose since this is Rated and I regularly 'buffer' my rating with debates, assuming I maintain as fairly 65/35 kind of winrate as things progress and my rating is also (at present) lower than yours. So, I figured even if I lose this, it was worth the gamble. It's also why I don't let myself get hooked on winstreaks like Ragnar and Oromagi, I just go for the hell of it and if it gets boring I take a break and even forfeit debates. This way, I am always in a position to 'tear down' a better rated debater quite significantly and noone can really accuse me of 'gaming the system' as I maintain one account, I just don't care as much about Rating as others do.
Even if I hadn't won the 'king of the hill' medal, I'd just roll with the punches, I was fortunate to rise fast and hard before the hardcore ones surpassed me.
There are similarities. It's named controversial debate and has semantic abuse making it essentially a truism because of how 'good' is being defined as 'got away with' primarily.
Also the description rules out all issues with him.
"As you can see, even though I am merely summarizing the article, the logic works well, the story checks out, and the studies combine together to show there's no reason that 9/11 was an inside job."
Firstly, you mean 'no reason to think it was' not 'no reason it was'.
Secondly, this is such an arrogant and foolish shouldering of BoP, I hope Con properly holds you to those words and makes you backfoot and change the BoP to be on balance if you want a hope to win.
Pieces of shit have a way of slipping through one's fingers if they try to clamp down.
Sources don't win debates, they prevent the other side winning and are a very defensive thing to use to back up what your saying as something more than paperweight in backing (if it's a direct claim the other side may dispute).
Okay I changed it but please try for a week (just because it gets boring and frustrating if both sides fully drag out the two week thing)
This is a genuine attempt to write a fair debate topic for us to properly hash out our disagreement on the matter.
I have yet to see this substance but okay. I frankly think the SC is bullshit and should be abolished but if it's not, India absolutely has earned a seat at the table. The only thing you should have focused on is particular aspects of Nuclear treaty agreements that India refuses to be a part of. The rest of the 'military' stuff isn't worth bringing up.
You are permanently blocked.
I am not fucking okay with being mocked and accused of writing anything with pedophilic undertones. This is fucking bullshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagarflj%C3%B3t
the URL in your RFD is correct while your link in the comments, correcting it, are to Croc vs Gugigor
LoK is an anime btw, it just has American producers and artists. The style is definitely Anime.
I am shocked at how you scored some of both mine and WF (in terms of what really stood out to you and what didn't) and also what your critiques were because I misjudged your taste. The Korra one was actually specifically chosen in the hopes you'd vote but I accept your feedback. Your 10/10 and such were things I'd agree were fantastic. To me, most were 10/10 in their own way but I'll keep my opinion to myself.
Thanks for your vote.
the link I posted regarding gun defence actually agrees with you but in Round 3 I will explain why wrestling is still worse.
I proposed the exact opposite.
bump
There is no way that theweakeredge's vote is valid RFD
Much like the rules inhibit the kungfu master in an MMA ring, the rules here restrict you. The question is if you can adapt to the enemy and situation or not ;)
run-to-mod syndrome is a bit too extreme in this debate from both sides.
How the fuck is gish gallop even a possibly abusive strategy in a 500 character debate since you sacrifice so much in exchange for the many points?
You take away Conduct for gish gallop? I don't even factor that in.
I 100% stand by my vote but I will take away the conduct vote so this stays there as the reason for my decision is important for people to read.
Pro brings some new points or quotes in Round 3, it would be inappropriate for me to bring new rebuttals he can't reply to so disregard the new quotes.
btw is there a name for different styles within Anime? One Punch Man AMVs are sometimes so good visually that I can't believe it's Anime I'm seeing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFbr8dQ6RcM
https://youtu.be/pELe8xRdHww brand new today
No point in me dissing WTC so I agree. However, offer me Tribe called Quest and NWA or WTC for a concert or listening session and I'd take the former two, without hesitation. Tribe vs NWA is difficult, depends the vobe you're going for, both equally skilled and successful imo.
For me NWA are/were better than WTC
They're overrated imo. Not bad, just good as opposed to great. Their lyrics rarely make me go wow and their production is mediocre and flow is smooth at times, but very jagged and broken at others.
*akin not askin
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Only a fool'd altogether remove*
Yeah go full Vinnie Paz anarchist if you want.
https://youtu.be/w_Q-DUj9OHw
I just avoided it in case you did.
Free win
https://youtu.be/XfSlVDEov4M
I'd take this over that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCXHl3SxCv0
a unique one that almost made the cut
Reminder to vote, please.
"Contrary to the incorrect interpretation of one member, "
yeah, just the one.