We will never know what he would have done differently had you not laid things out like that.
This is a tiny debate site on the Internet, I am not pressed. I can take an L.
I won't say more as it will influence you, I will tell you I think your Round 1 interpretation is biased but I also believe I structured things so that my Round 2 was much more defensive, not my Round 1.
Please vote on this if you feel like it (one Round from Con left, maximum 2 days).
I think it's a good example of how to make sophisticated debate techniques apply to seemingly ridiculous topics. This helps highlight the fundmentals as the actual subject matter is largely nonsense if one lacked structure with the fundamentals.
I'd kill you happily,
Jew scum, marry me,
Gruesome savagery as I bruise every Adam's apple on the family tree.
Churchill:
You are the son of a father who cheated with the incestuous maid,
Daddy beat you 'til you couldn't break for you embraced being enslaved,
Heartless failed artist, Jack of just spade,
Dig thy own grave, the way Britain paved,
The bullet from a German gun, slew the Jew-hating knave.
Latter has puns and much more relevance to reality, former has more rhyming and flow and harsh bars too.
If I write the latter with even worse rhyming then what?
There's a huge issue what if one has better bars but bad rhyme scheme and what if one has both but terrible relevance to the anime logic or truths in it?
Longer times chess is where people bad at chess have the largest skillgap.
Shorter times chess at it's extreme also hurts them but blitz (3-5 mins or 3 mins with 2 seconds added per move), is one of the best formats to give your brain tiny bursts of thinking while the opponent can't think too deep still.
Bullet is generally 1 min per game or 1 min with 1 sec per turn added. Both are TOO fast for an inexperienced player to cope.
Go for blitz. It has the highest rate of 'upset wins' AKA underdog wins of all chess time formats.
It literally backs up the disinfectant qualities in it. You are not reading tjed ebate properly if you don't see how much utility it has to back that up with a source, means I force my opponent to cave in or bring sources against it.
You haven't beaten me here ever if I recall correctly. Your biggest flaw is lacking semantic and basic referencegrounding, letting your opponent run circles around you asking for what this means or twisting that definition, denying x y z and you then have to prove it all later because you failed to get that out of the way in Round 1.
My strategy here has more to it than that. I will let my opponent see if they can work out flaws in it or not.
There is some logic you can use. It's not all memorisation.
The computer does not go by pure full game calculation, it knows the highest winrate paths from the situation though and depending which AI it is, has some 3 move ahead type calculation.
Try to analyse which pieces are either threatened now or about to be in 1 move and structure defensively, over time you'll get better at seeing failure of opponents to defend themselves and capitalise on it.
Get your knight and bishops out soon, use pawns to back them up and control the center.
He is used to abusing people who cower away once he really digs in or snap, he enjoys seeing people 'break'. There are people who'd self harm, cry and feel truly shit after he posted the things I said as it adds onto other things he's said and done to try to make me feel shit about myself and make my time here hell.
No wonder you were so confident to go against me with bars that trashy btw, I now get why in the first place you were so lazy throughout it. The votebombs were planned all along.
It's not smooth, it's see-through fakeness. It's cringe to read.
If you were serious about a truce, you'd apologise and have remorse. You are not that good at faking a conscience, you learned to fake the other things but faking the being sorry part didn't come with the package.
You are not my friend and you will never be my friend. You are a person who terrorised me here and is gaslighting me even now about it.
You call me an incel autistic loser who is an evil disgusting piece of shit with zero EQ but don't yourself have the first iota of an idea of EQ or taking responsibility for what you did.
I'm not even going to pretend that I hope you see the light and improve yourself, I doubt you ever will.
Guess it's a war of attrition, the problem is eventually a small island on the Internet aint worth sailing to anymore.
I hope you enjoy watching the erosion of regular members here debating. There's a reason that over time the top 15 have barely any actually debating.
I have lost enough rating here. I will shut my mouth, let this place rot and you and whiteflame can enjoy the fact you let a vote-corrupting verbal abuser who is literally re-igniting his violations upon his return, get away with it.
He is on your friends lists. When you banned me you said some total BS like you let me get away with shit. You don't. If I did this I'd be permabanned. You are hypocrites with double standards and total and utter negligence here. I am done debating here after my Islamic debate is over.
I warned you, you can think this quitting is fake, it isn't. It's his 'win'. He drove me away from here. Except I know for a fact I am leaving a sinking ship and he's just a thug pirate on it amongst you pirates.
If either of you take your position genuinely serious, please can you talk Whiteflame into taking this situation as severe? This is not funny, this is a fundamental line in the sand you need to be drawing, I can't even believe that still at this stage there is discussion of not clamping down harshly on the 'godfather' of the organised rule-breaking group at work.
This is as asinine as giving a hitman a life sentence with no further investigation or sentencing when it's crystal clear who ordered it and there's a whole pattern of abuse by that individual.
This isn't about me defeating this foolhardy thorn in my side, this is about justice and setting a deterrant example.
If you stand by and don't completely clamp down on this, you will realise exactly what many cultures did when at first they punished only individuals for organised crime. I am not speaking in hyperbole here to you I am telling you with the same fervor and assurance as I told you things on Discord which all proved to come true about Lancelot and how he'd escalate it.
I am telling you all this publicly because there is no point chatting behind anyone's back anymore other than if it's 'insulting' or sensitive information. You need to ban this guy, permanently. That is the one secure way to make it so that then no matter how long he abuses me with alts etc, his raw motive for being here (his account and the fun he can do with a persona) is mitigated. It also serves as a deterrant.
You should and already are discussing ways to mechanically make this unfeasible but that won't help the original issue. I don't know which mod you admire or aspire to be like, perhaps none but I guarantee you this. Nobody, not David, Bsh1, MisterChris, Airmax or Barney (unless he is somehow advocating it) would stand by this and just let it slide on an individual basis.
This is you and your overly literal interpretation of rule enforcement. Right now I wish Wylted was here because there is no way at all he would be okay with this.
So you think I am conspiring against him and sabotaged myself to frame him? Who are you trying to fool here? What did I warn you over a month ago now on Discord?
You can believe what you want.
"I wasn't going to vote on this originally. But after the mistreatment, I can't let this slide. Originally, I considered giving the win to Con.
But all things considered,
So RationalMadman vote-bombed my friend and got him banned, then threatened to vote-bomb Devon?
If all of this is true, then what expectation can Rational have to his own immunity from being vote-bombed?"
Let me tell you what is happening, this is either one individual doing kamikaze shit on behalf of Lancelot across all accounts or he has a Disc server (which he has regardless he's invited people to it) and is spreading shit there and arranging things, probably in private but with that as the 'hub'.
You need to permanently ban lancelot for inciting and arranging this. Do you not understand this is the literal clear cut case of vote gerrymandering and corruption? He literally is encouraging people to votebomb me.
We will never know what he would have done differently had you not laid things out like that.
This is a tiny debate site on the Internet, I am not pressed. I can take an L.
I won't say more as it will influence you, I will tell you I think your Round 1 interpretation is biased but I also believe I structured things so that my Round 2 was much more defensive, not my Round 1.
this is unrated
"Thank you for the debate RationalMadman."
Proceeds to whine and moan about how ungrateful he is for the debate with me.
God, I miss this toxic place.
you are helping benjamin form his Round 3 by revealing that, it's not fair.
You should also be very sure to read the later Rounds, Round 2 is extremely crucial to the debate.
Please vote on this if you feel like it (one Round from Con left, maximum 2 days).
I think it's a good example of how to make sophisticated debate techniques apply to seemingly ridiculous topics. This helps highlight the fundmentals as the actual subject matter is largely nonsense if one lacked structure with the fundamentals.
Do you want Light Vs L?
But let's say:
Hitler Vs Churchill
Hitler:
I'd kill you happily,
Jew scum, marry me,
Gruesome savagery as I bruise every Adam's apple on the family tree.
Churchill:
You are the son of a father who cheated with the incestuous maid,
Daddy beat you 'til you couldn't break for you embraced being enslaved,
Heartless failed artist, Jack of just spade,
Dig thy own grave, the way Britain paved,
The bullet from a German gun, slew the Jew-hating knave.
Latter has puns and much more relevance to reality, former has more rhyming and flow and harsh bars too.
If I write the latter with even worse rhyming then what?
There's a huge issue what if one has better bars but bad rhyme scheme and what if one has both but terrible relevance to the anime logic or truths in it?
This is a truism because the transition is about playing the role of that gender, after all.
Portugal is not a shit hole... Europe is one of the most developed continents on Earth excluding the far right east of it.
I am interested in that debate if the word defense is changed to offense.
Longer times chess is where people bad at chess have the largest skillgap.
Shorter times chess at it's extreme also hurts them but blitz (3-5 mins or 3 mins with 2 seconds added per move), is one of the best formats to give your brain tiny bursts of thinking while the opponent can't think too deep still.
Bullet is generally 1 min per game or 1 min with 1 sec per turn added. Both are TOO fast for an inexperienced player to cope.
Go for blitz. It has the highest rate of 'upset wins' AKA underdog wins of all chess time formats.
It literally backs up the disinfectant qualities in it. You are not reading tjed ebate properly if you don't see how much utility it has to back that up with a source, means I force my opponent to cave in or bring sources against it.
You haven't beaten me here ever if I recall correctly. Your biggest flaw is lacking semantic and basic referencegrounding, letting your opponent run circles around you asking for what this means or twisting that definition, denying x y z and you then have to prove it all later because you failed to get that out of the way in Round 1.
My strategy here has more to it than that. I will let my opponent see if they can work out flaws in it or not.
I stated 2-3 benefits in what you think is a definition, backed up by a source so tabula rasa tells to trust it now rather than that i'm making it up.
"Abortion is ... labor complications, death of the child"
right. ok.
you must oppose me in this debate to defend the innocence of all.
There is some logic you can use. It's not all memorisation.
The computer does not go by pure full game calculation, it knows the highest winrate paths from the situation though and depending which AI it is, has some 3 move ahead type calculation.
Try to analyse which pieces are either threatened now or about to be in 1 move and structure defensively, over time you'll get better at seeing failure of opponents to defend themselves and capitalise on it.
Get your knight and bishops out soon, use pawns to back them up and control the center.
You'd have to prove ALL, do you realise that?
1-round debate to vote on if any of you care to, appreciated if you do.
voting period 2 weeks, argument time 1 day and i'll accept.
You won't be missed.
Nowhere there do I agree to a truce.
Sorry, I'll stick to the boring topics and predictable angles.
Just so everyone understands, I never agreed to any truce with Lancelot but ironically Lancelot proceeded to post this:
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9787/posts/407364
and the post just after it as well as this debate comment:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/4879/comments/56663
He is used to abusing people who cower away once he really digs in or snap, he enjoys seeing people 'break'. There are people who'd self harm, cry and feel truly shit after he posted the things I said as it adds onto other things he's said and done to try to make me feel shit about myself and make my time here hell.
I am curious what you all think.
https://www.debateart.com/debates/4872/comments/56664
https://www.debateart.com/debates/4871/comments/56665
I see you are proud to be on the friends list of someone this abusive, surely.
None of them are demonstrative, not a single one says that god is demonstrated. This is a trap debate.
What happened to not mentioning or acknowledging me? Lasted a day, I give you credit. 😆
Lancelot can only end up hurt if he hurts me from now on, so there is no point not accepting.
I didnt know you were the votebomber
I told you this was him
Lol...
That is part of the debate.
Delete this how the fuck is this allowed?
I do not consider you my friend.
You think you are clever or funny with this emotional manipulation but you pivoted from
'RM didnt get me banned, my actions did, blablabla'
To
'I have nothing to be sorry for, I did nothing to have regrets.'
In how few posts and time? 😂
They can indeed both be true at once. Your act is transparent, try a bit harder.
No wonder you were so confident to go against me with bars that trashy btw, I now get why in the first place you were so lazy throughout it. The votebombs were planned all along.
It's not smooth, it's see-through fakeness. It's cringe to read.
If you were serious about a truce, you'd apologise and have remorse. You are not that good at faking a conscience, you learned to fake the other things but faking the being sorry part didn't come with the package.
You are not my friend and you will never be my friend. You are a person who terrorised me here and is gaslighting me even now about it.
You call me an incel autistic loser who is an evil disgusting piece of shit with zero EQ but don't yourself have the first iota of an idea of EQ or taking responsibility for what you did.
I'm not even going to pretend that I hope you see the light and improve yourself, I doubt you ever will.
I genuinely feel towards you what you said in the Slainte goodbye thread btw, the irony was and still is immense.
If you really felt bad for what you did to me, you'd do it regardless. It tells a lot about you that it is 'conditional' on some arbitrary nonsense.
You only want to bait me so your spamvoters can take my rating again. I am not an idiot and you are not a good person.
You owe me so much rating, pay up. You won't. That's how I know your truce is fake.
Lancelot it's cringe and hilarious to me that you think people fall for your act, not because none do but because you thought I will.
You offer a 'truce' in another thread after making this happen.
If you really want a truce make 4 debates, all rated and aimed at me, with resolutions you can't win and then forfeit like a good boy.
No, it isn't. Get off my debates now.
I have every righ tto vote on all of Lancelot's debates. If you ban me for it, that is insane.
You never once told me that. Had I not opened this one debate comment I'd have not known that idiotic rule. I don't agree to it. I don't abide by it.
Guess it's a war of attrition, the problem is eventually a small island on the Internet aint worth sailing to anymore.
I hope you enjoy watching the erosion of regular members here debating. There's a reason that over time the top 15 have barely any actually debating.
I have lost enough rating here. I will shut my mouth, let this place rot and you and whiteflame can enjoy the fact you let a vote-corrupting verbal abuser who is literally re-igniting his violations upon his return, get away with it.
He is on your friends lists. When you banned me you said some total BS like you let me get away with shit. You don't. If I did this I'd be permabanned. You are hypocrites with double standards and total and utter negligence here. I am done debating here after my Islamic debate is over.
I warned you, you can think this quitting is fake, it isn't. It's his 'win'. He drove me away from here. Except I know for a fact I am leaving a sinking ship and he's just a thug pirate on it amongst you pirates.
If either of you take your position genuinely serious, please can you talk Whiteflame into taking this situation as severe? This is not funny, this is a fundamental line in the sand you need to be drawing, I can't even believe that still at this stage there is discussion of not clamping down harshly on the 'godfather' of the organised rule-breaking group at work.
This is as asinine as giving a hitman a life sentence with no further investigation or sentencing when it's crystal clear who ordered it and there's a whole pattern of abuse by that individual.
This isn't about me defeating this foolhardy thorn in my side, this is about justice and setting a deterrant example.
If you stand by and don't completely clamp down on this, you will realise exactly what many cultures did when at first they punished only individuals for organised crime. I am not speaking in hyperbole here to you I am telling you with the same fervor and assurance as I told you things on Discord which all proved to come true about Lancelot and how he'd escalate it.
I am telling you all this publicly because there is no point chatting behind anyone's back anymore other than if it's 'insulting' or sensitive information. You need to ban this guy, permanently. That is the one secure way to make it so that then no matter how long he abuses me with alts etc, his raw motive for being here (his account and the fun he can do with a persona) is mitigated. It also serves as a deterrant.
You should and already are discussing ways to mechanically make this unfeasible but that won't help the original issue. I don't know which mod you admire or aspire to be like, perhaps none but I guarantee you this. Nobody, not David, Bsh1, MisterChris, Airmax or Barney (unless he is somehow advocating it) would stand by this and just let it slide on an individual basis.
This is you and your overly literal interpretation of rule enforcement. Right now I wish Wylted was here because there is no way at all he would be okay with this.
So you think I am conspiring against him and sabotaged myself to frame him? Who are you trying to fool here? What did I warn you over a month ago now on Discord?
You can believe what you want.
"I wasn't going to vote on this originally. But after the mistreatment, I can't let this slide. Originally, I considered giving the win to Con.
But all things considered,
So RationalMadman vote-bombed my friend and got him banned, then threatened to vote-bomb Devon?
If all of this is true, then what expectation can Rational have to his own immunity from being vote-bombed?"
Let me tell you what is happening, this is either one individual doing kamikaze shit on behalf of Lancelot across all accounts or he has a Disc server (which he has regardless he's invited people to it) and is spreading shit there and arranging things, probably in private but with that as the 'hub'.
You need to permanently ban lancelot for inciting and arranging this. Do you not understand this is the literal clear cut case of vote gerrymandering and corruption? He literally is encouraging people to votebomb me.
the only one engaging in votebombs here is you.
ty.