chumps* but chump works if you just kind of ignore grammar as it's a rap, whatever as I said I enter this state of consciousness that's hard to think about grammar and I don't even mean drugs other than caffeine.
And yes, I'd have that view whether or not I was an a botched abortion or accident in a prolife nation. I do not use my own existence to bias my outlook.
I actually do support that, you should only be alive at the mercy of your ancestors, but that being said the issue is about complete inability to prove.
RFD 1/3
The only Source that Pro used the entire debate was a link I gave him in the comments to help him, especially as he's ranked so low, in the hopes he'd have a fair chance in the fight. The Source in question was used to explicitly state that he will be completely ignoring the contents of it as he sees that as cheating and implied that any link to what was contained in the given Source was purely accidental. Aside from the stupidity of this (because he used a few lines of logic from the Source and could have help up far, far better had he read the Source and altered the wording, accrediting the Source for inspiration), he essentially never once used a reliable Source FOR HIS ARGUMENTS TO HOLD WEIGHT. Not even once, in elaboration, were Sources used to give weight to cited theories and/or facts. Con used Sources to show that simulated-reality is a well-respected theory amongst NASA puppets and since NASA is well-respected, that's actually better than what Pro did. He also used a Pew-Research link to back up that ~55% (and upwards) believe in God in the world, at present. Pew research is extremely reliable for statistics and estimation, being a world renowned non-partisan think tank dedicated to providing the most solid stats there are. Anyone who doesn't respect Pew Research is a fucking dunce who probably believes the Earth is a Globe and that the NASA link is more reliable *pukes*. Stats don't lie; PhotoShop and Groupthink do. No doubt about it, we are onto real deal justification for the Sources vote going to Con. Heck, it's done, that's enough to justify the Sources-point.
RFD 2/3
Arguments revolved around whether or not God was defined as the Judeo-Christian all-loving, all-knowing and all-powerful God or if God was defined simply as that being that created this Universe and even other universes, potentially. I think the only thing I agree with Type1 on is that you can’t have a group of supreme aliens be ‘God’, it’s surely twisting semantics too much to have God be the name of a group of demigods. Con doesn’t really fight Pro on the notion of polytheism though, so it is neither here nor there. Con argues that ‘God’ is flexible enough a word to fit any creator of reality as we know it, at all. I am not just biased because I firmly believe in God and that reality is simulated, which did tickle my pickle in the right ways that Ragnar was supporting simulation-theory, but am open-minded here… The thing is, there was no agreed upon definition of God before the debate. Neither the short-description (on the page of debates) or long-description (seen inside the debate) had a listed definition of God being restricted to the kind that Christians, Jews and Muslims believe in. As there was not specific nature of the God required for Ragnar to agree to when clicking ‘Accept Challenge’, it means that we must hold Type1 as the sneaky one who twisted semantics and not Ragnar who had no reason to assume it was only that God-species being discussed.
RFD 3/3
Type1 keeps trying to prove that Ragnar can’t prove that God exists but this doesn’t mean that God is impossible, just like the entirety of Star Wars, which Pro points out hilariously could all be true in theory, the point is that ‘impossible’ means can’t be true at all. You can say ‘Star Wars is impossible if the Force is not possible’ and try to prove that the Force doesn’t operate in our realm of reality, that’s fine, but you’re saying that something that operates in any imaginable realm (even beyond Reality) that is ‘God’ is IMPOSSIBLE… Ragnar corners Pro into admitting that Pro is actually the one trying to rely on groupthink more so than Ragnar. Even if the most insane version of God imaginable that only one person believes in and the majority disagree with, that God still can be real… Then Ragnar flips it back to sandwich Type1 in a BoP trap that is so RationalMadman-esque whereby he points out that the majority of humans believe in God, so either way Pro has no basis here.
Conduct to Con because Pro encourages Con to hang himself ‘literally’ and uses phrases like ‘extraordinarily infantile intellect’ to describe all who believe in God.
Also, Pro shot himself in the foot by saying definitions are social constructs. This means that ‘God’ can be made far more flexible by Con and justified as challenging the social construct that Pro presents. Con didn’t capitalise on that, but Pro genuinely lost the debate with that comment alone, had Con chosen to capitalise on it.
I used 'tyrant' twice but basically i enter a different level of consciousness when i write my raps that thinks in pure flow. Somehow it seemed good for the flow so whatever, I doubt I'll lose due to it.
that is fine, i will adapt to the stupidity of the readers as I endure defeats and am sure a more evolved style will fail to impress. Until then, I'll stick to this.
Loud - Thoughts, despite being a very rough and masculine beat in texture, had severely melody-rich toning to it that was perfectly pulled off. The tempo varied so perfectly and that the drop was orgasmatic enough melodically as well as texture-wise to keep you hooked to hear it again on top of the fact the the 'in-between' parts.
That said, it does hurt your ears quite brutally because of what 'bass nation' does to songs (they boost the bass) and this also is due to that since YouTube offers worse quality than original tracks, you're forced to make it louder to truly get crisp sounds pushing through (but they are blurred due to the bass, making you want to make it EVEN louder). I have excellent headphones and that's a bad thing here... So, LOUD - thoughts on THIS LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKJrsUdWYj0 is a much easier listen. As for me, I have spotify premium but it takes about 3 searches for spotify to hone in on which 'loud' you mean and you need to type the 'thoughts' BEFORE the 'loud' to get it to properly find the song in any reachable manner without a lot of scrolling. After listening to it on Spotify I concluded it was excellently done. I rate the overall track a 21/30. It lacked lyrics and any soothing elements (it was a VERY masculine track, made for someone into quite brutal music) but as a standalone piece it outshone the others here, as none were soothing.
Marshmello - Alone is boring but not super repetitive. The guy does put effort into having pleasing tunes and pacing but it’s just too simplistic for me (and others I am sure) so, even though the first guy who voted gave it 10/10 I do not feel pressured as I know he has strange taste from another electronic-music debate I’m doing with him. I give it a 17/30. It’s better than a 15/30 but the 2 points are purely for hitting good notes at a good pace… It doesn’t make me drop my jaw or close my eyes to get into the song at all, actually the more intense and ‘deep into the song’ I get, the less I want to keep listening. This is toxic for a track to do to you but is a NORM for the electronic music industry so I don’t mark it too far down for that. The lyrics are… neither soothing, actually quite depressing if you get to know them and just not deep at all in spite of it. So yeah, 17/30 is fair.
Let’s look at Ram’s opening duo. Okay, he had a pirate copy of the song uploaded to a medium that already lowers quality. If I didn’t have Spotify, I would have been ear-eroded on the listening to ARTY - Open Space. I will link you to a better copy of the song on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8arwVVfBpM There is a HUGE disparity, HUGE. between the quality of the song I linked and the one I posted. I am aware sometimes these types of original-song links aren’t available in the US? Sorry, I don’t know if it’s available. I linked to the original mix, not the ‘open space’ default song that is shown by ARTY, which is shorter (and better). See, another issue with this song, and that Ramshutu picked the original version, is that the buildup is boring. It’s not terrible, it’s boring. The ‘drop’ doesn’t exist (this is not a ‘drop’ type song it’s really the opposite but it keeps building up like it has a drop instead of a ‘lift’). The ultimate ‘drop-esque’ thing that happens at almost 3 mins in (2:50 or so) is SO LONG a wait, it’s not at all rewarding nor spectacular from a technical stance. I didn’t like the lack of lyrics or lack of anything to stimulate my brain while the song built. The real thing that made me fed up with the song is that the guy (ARTY) clearly has talent and refined skill yet he wastes it on the most ridiculous repetition of DUDUDUDUDUDUD boom bid boom bom bidudee dodudoudoduoduoduoudoudud over and over… It really makes me furious.
So, while technically sufficient, it’s just a 9/30 for me.
I don’t know if Ramshutu has some kind of psychogical build that makes him enjoy being infuriated but his second song had a longer build-up and worse reward… In fact i would say the BUILD UP WAS BETTER than what happened after it (which was the same-pace of a similar thing but slower and tamer wtf?) here is the highest quality version of what he posted, available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ9zwJjlJZM Again, it may not be available in certain countries, IDK. It is a headache to listen to. This is what people say electronic music is, who hate it and only love acoustic music. It is a headache of pushing too many buttons to jam together sounds for the sake of it. This is horrible. I will not stand for it. 6/30 because it had some tune to it…
SupaDudz has already won the debate at this point, in my eyes, unless he really screws up, but let me just keep it real with you and be brutally honest on my feedback so you guys understand why I voted how I did.
Was brilliant at pacing. At every stage you were ready for the song to get repetitive, it altered. As soon as you were fed up of it going ‘bam bam bam’ it gradually went into build-up mode and the ‘drop’ was… underwhelming but exactly what you thought it would be. The issue was it sounded shit. It was literally the robot-rape-scream sound that too much electronic music is and was a brutal headache to listen to, in fact I had to physically stop it, it was so BOOM BLAMMY JRRR JRRR BRRRRSHSRIORHORSHS NO. THIS SOUND IS NOT PLEASANT I TELL YOU
7/30 FOR PACING IS NOT A 0. ARGH TO MY EARDRUM
Then Ramshutu comes in with a BAM, smack to the jaw, Supa on the floor wowowowow it was an eargasmatic throwback to the days that was a mainstream tune blasted in the corridor of any boarding school in the morning and shit like that. Yes, this is the fucking shit I was waiting for, build up so smooth, the inverse-drop (‘lift) which was more mainstream back then and barely going out of fashion, was fantastic. Loved it. It lacked lyrics and was too repetitive until… The exact moment… That you think that… the women sings with such a fuckable voice MMMMMMMMMMMM
It could have better percussion and a less ‘intense’ beat that’s as soothing as the woman’s voice and better syncing the woman’s voice and percussion WITH the melody and stuff but overall, fanfuckingtastic.
Buku - Front To Back, had the potential to be a 30/30 that is the shit I would put up in my own selection. Fucking loved it and wished I’d heard it before, the woman’s voice, the build-up, the beat, the ALL OF IT… pure bliss. Then… It just stayed mid-drop, never devolved, never relaxed but stayed full-throttle inside the drop? It was so brilliant until it never came down from the drop the entire song after the drop happens? Wtf? It was genuinely so amazing until that…
18/30, good try.
Madeon - Finale… voice was too masculine. For a piece like that, a feminine voice is a must (high pitched man can qualify). It really took away from how soothing and beautiful the piece could be to a masculine listener like myself that enjoys feminine pieces from time to time. The melody was far too repetitive, I am talking 0 variation and it being fast ‘dudududu’ over and over. It was, however, a good build-up that didn’t rush nor go too slow towards the transitions but all the transitions were teasers that never ever reached some kind of eargasmic drop or something.
Heck, I’ll give it a 14/30, it wasn’t bad TBH, but was not good in the slightest either.
WTF is this hardstyle from supadudz in R5? WHY! YUCK! Didn’t enjoy at all. Coone (yeah, “Coon” is a racist term, I know, but is artist-name is literally Coone) is an example of how hardstyle can be less of a headache and somewhat melodic but this, this is just straight ear-slamming garbage. I couldn’t bear it. Sorry.
0/30
It is clear that the original mix was the intended thing to listen to in the Levels selection that Ramshutu gave. 1 song per round is not a rule to be used leniently and sneaked around like that. It was a bit too slow but yeah, yeah that’s covered by the radio edit whatever. It was good, yeah… boring, repetitive but… catchy and good vibes despite being unoriginal in most other ways.
Supadudz our RO is over and if you feel too offended by my feedback, that's genuinely your issue. If you grudge-vote against me on my rap battle vs Ramshutu or elsewhere, at least justify it well. I'm not gonna pussyfoot around your emotions as it will hinder your improvement as a rapper.
Something to bear in mind is how, despite there being a severe disparity in experience with rap that That1User was able to surpass SupaDudz in raw quality of wordplay and comprehension of rhyme-scheme. It is actually quite embarrassing for supadudz and he constantly refuses to take my advice on this matter but he consistently says things that DO NOT rhyme in any standard rap accent as the last parts of lines and it's not even in the middle of a consistent rhyme scheme as an exception, it's the only pairing of that rhyme at times, meaning it undeniably shames him as a rapper.
I will start with wordplay quality. This is both the metaphorical-stacking towards puns and the actual word used to be the punchline as opposed to synonyms of it. This is a skill that Nicki Minaj is a goddess at in rap and while she lacks in many other areas, wordplay quality is something she surpasses many, many rappers at by miles (she's on par with Eminem, the famous wordplay God). This is about quality more so than quantity.
This is the most severe category where That1 outshone SupaDudz. It is clear to me, also from another battle I did with That1, that T1U is used to poetry and good at wordplay and metaphorical stacking from a poetic point of view. SupaDudz struggles to understand the value of metaphors and his punchlines usually are 2-lines deep (which is very shallow) at all times. He tends to never, even once, build up a metahporical punch for 3+ lines and this costs him dearly.
I rank SupaDudz 11/30 in this category and T1U 19/30.
Both struggle to wordplay to any incredible degree and don’t see the value in sometimes bringing up a metaphor of several verses prior, in a later verse but it’s a secret thing that rappers like myself, eminem and Minaj love to do, it really lets the skill flourish to a more observant listener/reader.
Supadudz begins his rap calling T1U an ‘irrelevant peasant’ this was good enough flow to admire even though the leading part of the line was ‘who are you, who are you’... Lol… The issue is that following this he begins with ‘trying to act tough’ which in no way at all flows well, metaphorically (let alone syllable-wise) with ‘who are you, who are you’ and doesn’t even slide along from ‘irrelevant peasant’ if he’s going for a jittery rhyme-heavy flow. Then he rhymes ‘irrelevant peasant’ with ‘were really resistant’... only the ‘re’ and ‘tant’ remotely can be said to rhyme properly. ‘Were’ isn’t said as ‘where’ and I don’t know if this is some accent thing but ‘resistant and ‘ant peasant’ are also paced totally differently in most people’s accents, it is a very bad punchline to build up to. So the peasant isn’t ACTING resistant, they are REALLY resistant? This is followed by ‘posted it’ (as in challenge) and ‘take your lyrics and turn them into shit’ and neither of these 2 are linked to the peasant-metaphor nor to each other in any punchline-sense. They are both standalone-jibes. To follow up from how terrible T1U’s DART Career is, Dudz finishes off the verse with ‘pinned up against the fence’... Except that if T1U truly was terrified he/she wouldn’t have accepted the challenge in the first place and the fact a noob is willing to take you on itself is an insult to you. This is a very backfiring way to end Verse 1.
Why focus on Verse 1? This is a first impression a rapper gives the audience of the skill and style, you think Minaj is going to start a diss with weak bars like that? Fuck no, the entire bar will build up metaphors and similes with brutal elegance.
T1U enters weak as well rhyme-scheme wise but in terms of punchlines this already began to make me smirk in a somewhat impressed manner. “Row row row you got no flow” is a fantastic way to mock how dudz repeated ‘who are you’ in his first line and it’s even followed with ‘poor poor’ in the next line but the is
“I'll keep trying as you keep dying
Taking you down till you go flying
Shooting you out of the sky
Cause it's duck season”
Leading into this punchline:
“You're dinner now
Eaten by a peasant
You just a pheasant“
The idea that Dudz is a lower quality being than T1U is even picked up very remotely in the next Verse:
“Your house is made of straw
One breathe and you will fall
Inhale, exhale, you will fail
Take you down wall to wall”
Now for more highlights:
“You're nothing but a Greek geek serving up grease away from Greece
Flying away like geese so it's time for you to cease before you decease”
The thing is, this backfires on the notion that he’s a poor man’s bird as goose is actually more expensive than duck, which was what you implied he wasn’t worthy of being in the verse mentioned earlier. This is why T1U isn’t a 25+/30 wordplay-user. Never backfire on a previous metaphor in the same rap battle. Shit like this matters to severely observant rap connoisseurs like myself.
Calling himself/herself King of Dreams more than once isn’t the same as ‘carrying’ a metaphor or simile across, since it’s the same phrase and isn’t wordplayed successfully the second time that it’s brought up.
Here’s another highlight of T1U’s wordplay/metaphor-stacking:
Thank you. :)
Isn't paintball legal? What's the issue then?
Like when you invited me to rap battle.
And also change my loss vs him to a win, because Ramshutu completely misrepresented my case and misinterpreted my arguments.
Enjoy the show; especially Round 3.
i had a four-syllable rhyme between 'underwhelming' and 'done with melting', you're just salty.
look at the syllable before.
you being quite the Pinocchio there
chumps* but chump works if you just kind of ignore grammar as it's a rap, whatever as I said I enter this state of consciousness that's hard to think about grammar and I don't even mean drugs other than caffeine.
this alpha* (round 2 correction)
could use a vote here when it's done.
Well said, I almost burst with ecstasy at the excellence of that post.
Thanks for the vote. ;)
And yes, I'd have that view whether or not I was an a botched abortion or accident in a prolife nation. I do not use my own existence to bias my outlook.
I actually do support that, you should only be alive at the mercy of your ancestors, but that being said the issue is about complete inability to prove.
How can you prove that they aborted the foetus due to its scanned gender or predicted race? Stupid law to pass.
RFD 1/3
The only Source that Pro used the entire debate was a link I gave him in the comments to help him, especially as he's ranked so low, in the hopes he'd have a fair chance in the fight. The Source in question was used to explicitly state that he will be completely ignoring the contents of it as he sees that as cheating and implied that any link to what was contained in the given Source was purely accidental. Aside from the stupidity of this (because he used a few lines of logic from the Source and could have help up far, far better had he read the Source and altered the wording, accrediting the Source for inspiration), he essentially never once used a reliable Source FOR HIS ARGUMENTS TO HOLD WEIGHT. Not even once, in elaboration, were Sources used to give weight to cited theories and/or facts. Con used Sources to show that simulated-reality is a well-respected theory amongst NASA puppets and since NASA is well-respected, that's actually better than what Pro did. He also used a Pew-Research link to back up that ~55% (and upwards) believe in God in the world, at present. Pew research is extremely reliable for statistics and estimation, being a world renowned non-partisan think tank dedicated to providing the most solid stats there are. Anyone who doesn't respect Pew Research is a fucking dunce who probably believes the Earth is a Globe and that the NASA link is more reliable *pukes*. Stats don't lie; PhotoShop and Groupthink do. No doubt about it, we are onto real deal justification for the Sources vote going to Con. Heck, it's done, that's enough to justify the Sources-point.
RFD 2/3
Arguments revolved around whether or not God was defined as the Judeo-Christian all-loving, all-knowing and all-powerful God or if God was defined simply as that being that created this Universe and even other universes, potentially. I think the only thing I agree with Type1 on is that you can’t have a group of supreme aliens be ‘God’, it’s surely twisting semantics too much to have God be the name of a group of demigods. Con doesn’t really fight Pro on the notion of polytheism though, so it is neither here nor there. Con argues that ‘God’ is flexible enough a word to fit any creator of reality as we know it, at all. I am not just biased because I firmly believe in God and that reality is simulated, which did tickle my pickle in the right ways that Ragnar was supporting simulation-theory, but am open-minded here… The thing is, there was no agreed upon definition of God before the debate. Neither the short-description (on the page of debates) or long-description (seen inside the debate) had a listed definition of God being restricted to the kind that Christians, Jews and Muslims believe in. As there was not specific nature of the God required for Ragnar to agree to when clicking ‘Accept Challenge’, it means that we must hold Type1 as the sneaky one who twisted semantics and not Ragnar who had no reason to assume it was only that God-species being discussed.
RFD 3/3
Type1 keeps trying to prove that Ragnar can’t prove that God exists but this doesn’t mean that God is impossible, just like the entirety of Star Wars, which Pro points out hilariously could all be true in theory, the point is that ‘impossible’ means can’t be true at all. You can say ‘Star Wars is impossible if the Force is not possible’ and try to prove that the Force doesn’t operate in our realm of reality, that’s fine, but you’re saying that something that operates in any imaginable realm (even beyond Reality) that is ‘God’ is IMPOSSIBLE… Ragnar corners Pro into admitting that Pro is actually the one trying to rely on groupthink more so than Ragnar. Even if the most insane version of God imaginable that only one person believes in and the majority disagree with, that God still can be real… Then Ragnar flips it back to sandwich Type1 in a BoP trap that is so RationalMadman-esque whereby he points out that the majority of humans believe in God, so either way Pro has no basis here.
Conduct to Con because Pro encourages Con to hang himself ‘literally’ and uses phrases like ‘extraordinarily infantile intellect’ to describe all who believe in God.
Also, Pro shot himself in the foot by saying definitions are social constructs. This means that ‘God’ can be made far more flexible by Con and justified as challenging the social construct that Pro presents. Con didn’t capitalise on that, but Pro genuinely lost the debate with that comment alone, had Con chosen to capitalise on it.
I used 'tyrant' twice but basically i enter a different level of consciousness when i write my raps that thinks in pure flow. Somehow it seemed good for the flow so whatever, I doubt I'll lose due to it.
Round 1 correction:
there should be a comma between 'system' and 'that' to make it clear the 'that' refers to me the no-life victim and not the system
check it
Thanks.
pls vote here if you got time.
Please can you counter-votebomb this?
Please ask for your vote to be removed. Do you think it's funny what you did here? This will enable a tie to be my loss if more votes come in.
oh shit my part 4/11 was cut short. I also deleted the google doc >.>
ty for the vote and advice supa
I expect only to come back wiser and stronger later on.
I expect no mercy from voters who can't understand what I wrote or find it displeasing to their brains to read
that is fine, i will adapt to the stupidity of the readers as I endure defeats and am sure a more evolved style will fail to impress. Until then, I'll stick to this.
might devote
buy some rope lycanthrope
they rhyme inside
11.3% not 7% sorry, corrected here..................
RFD 1/7
Loud - Thoughts, despite being a very rough and masculine beat in texture, had severely melody-rich toning to it that was perfectly pulled off. The tempo varied so perfectly and that the drop was orgasmatic enough melodically as well as texture-wise to keep you hooked to hear it again on top of the fact the the 'in-between' parts.
That said, it does hurt your ears quite brutally because of what 'bass nation' does to songs (they boost the bass) and this also is due to that since YouTube offers worse quality than original tracks, you're forced to make it louder to truly get crisp sounds pushing through (but they are blurred due to the bass, making you want to make it EVEN louder). I have excellent headphones and that's a bad thing here... So, LOUD - thoughts on THIS LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKJrsUdWYj0 is a much easier listen. As for me, I have spotify premium but it takes about 3 searches for spotify to hone in on which 'loud' you mean and you need to type the 'thoughts' BEFORE the 'loud' to get it to properly find the song in any reachable manner without a lot of scrolling. After listening to it on Spotify I concluded it was excellently done. I rate the overall track a 21/30. It lacked lyrics and any soothing elements (it was a VERY masculine track, made for someone into quite brutal music) but as a standalone piece it outshone the others here, as none were soothing.
RFD 2/7
Marshmello - Alone is boring but not super repetitive. The guy does put effort into having pleasing tunes and pacing but it’s just too simplistic for me (and others I am sure) so, even though the first guy who voted gave it 10/10 I do not feel pressured as I know he has strange taste from another electronic-music debate I’m doing with him. I give it a 17/30. It’s better than a 15/30 but the 2 points are purely for hitting good notes at a good pace… It doesn’t make me drop my jaw or close my eyes to get into the song at all, actually the more intense and ‘deep into the song’ I get, the less I want to keep listening. This is toxic for a track to do to you but is a NORM for the electronic music industry so I don’t mark it too far down for that. The lyrics are… neither soothing, actually quite depressing if you get to know them and just not deep at all in spite of it. So yeah, 17/30 is fair.
RFD 3/7
Let’s look at Ram’s opening duo. Okay, he had a pirate copy of the song uploaded to a medium that already lowers quality. If I didn’t have Spotify, I would have been ear-eroded on the listening to ARTY - Open Space. I will link you to a better copy of the song on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8arwVVfBpM There is a HUGE disparity, HUGE. between the quality of the song I linked and the one I posted. I am aware sometimes these types of original-song links aren’t available in the US? Sorry, I don’t know if it’s available. I linked to the original mix, not the ‘open space’ default song that is shown by ARTY, which is shorter (and better). See, another issue with this song, and that Ramshutu picked the original version, is that the buildup is boring. It’s not terrible, it’s boring. The ‘drop’ doesn’t exist (this is not a ‘drop’ type song it’s really the opposite but it keeps building up like it has a drop instead of a ‘lift’). The ultimate ‘drop-esque’ thing that happens at almost 3 mins in (2:50 or so) is SO LONG a wait, it’s not at all rewarding nor spectacular from a technical stance. I didn’t like the lack of lyrics or lack of anything to stimulate my brain while the song built. The real thing that made me fed up with the song is that the guy (ARTY) clearly has talent and refined skill yet he wastes it on the most ridiculous repetition of DUDUDUDUDUDUD boom bid boom bom bidudee dodudoudoduoduoduoudoudud over and over… It really makes me furious.
RFD 4/7
So, while technically sufficient, it’s just a 9/30 for me.
I don’t know if Ramshutu has some kind of psychogical build that makes him enjoy being infuriated but his second song had a longer build-up and worse reward… In fact i would say the BUILD UP WAS BETTER than what happened after it (which was the same-pace of a similar thing but slower and tamer wtf?) here is the highest quality version of what he posted, available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ9zwJjlJZM Again, it may not be available in certain countries, IDK. It is a headache to listen to. This is what people say electronic music is, who hate it and only love acoustic music. It is a headache of pushing too many buttons to jam together sounds for the sake of it. This is horrible. I will not stand for it. 6/30 because it had some tune to it…
SupaDudz has already won the debate at this point, in my eyes, unless he really screws up, but let me just keep it real with you and be brutally honest on my feedback so you guys understand why I voted how I did.
RFD 5/7
Complextro - Erio
Was brilliant at pacing. At every stage you were ready for the song to get repetitive, it altered. As soon as you were fed up of it going ‘bam bam bam’ it gradually went into build-up mode and the ‘drop’ was… underwhelming but exactly what you thought it would be. The issue was it sounded shit. It was literally the robot-rape-scream sound that too much electronic music is and was a brutal headache to listen to, in fact I had to physically stop it, it was so BOOM BLAMMY JRRR JRRR BRRRRSHSRIORHORSHS NO. THIS SOUND IS NOT PLEASANT I TELL YOU
7/30 FOR PACING IS NOT A 0. ARGH TO MY EARDRUM
Then Ramshutu comes in with a BAM, smack to the jaw, Supa on the floor wowowowow it was an eargasmatic throwback to the days that was a mainstream tune blasted in the corridor of any boarding school in the morning and shit like that. Yes, this is the fucking shit I was waiting for, build up so smooth, the inverse-drop (‘lift) which was more mainstream back then and barely going out of fashion, was fantastic. Loved it. It lacked lyrics and was too repetitive until… The exact moment… That you think that… the women sings with such a fuckable voice MMMMMMMMMMMM
It could have better percussion and a less ‘intense’ beat that’s as soothing as the woman’s voice and better syncing the woman’s voice and percussion WITH the melody and stuff but overall, fanfuckingtastic.
23/30 for Peter Robinon - Language.
RFD 6/7
Buku - Front To Back, had the potential to be a 30/30 that is the shit I would put up in my own selection. Fucking loved it and wished I’d heard it before, the woman’s voice, the build-up, the beat, the ALL OF IT… pure bliss. Then… It just stayed mid-drop, never devolved, never relaxed but stayed full-throttle inside the drop? It was so brilliant until it never came down from the drop the entire song after the drop happens? Wtf? It was genuinely so amazing until that…
18/30, good try.
Madeon - Finale… voice was too masculine. For a piece like that, a feminine voice is a must (high pitched man can qualify). It really took away from how soothing and beautiful the piece could be to a masculine listener like myself that enjoys feminine pieces from time to time. The melody was far too repetitive, I am talking 0 variation and it being fast ‘dudududu’ over and over. It was, however, a good build-up that didn’t rush nor go too slow towards the transitions but all the transitions were teasers that never ever reached some kind of eargasmic drop or something.
Heck, I’ll give it a 14/30, it wasn’t bad TBH, but was not good in the slightest either.
RFD 7/7
WTF is this hardstyle from supadudz in R5? WHY! YUCK! Didn’t enjoy at all. Coone (yeah, “Coon” is a racist term, I know, but is artist-name is literally Coone) is an example of how hardstyle can be less of a headache and somewhat melodic but this, this is just straight ear-slamming garbage. I couldn’t bear it. Sorry.
0/30
It is clear that the original mix was the intended thing to listen to in the Levels selection that Ramshutu gave. 1 song per round is not a rule to be used leniently and sneaked around like that. It was a bit too slow but yeah, yeah that’s covered by the radio edit whatever. It was good, yeah… boring, repetitive but… catchy and good vibes despite being unoriginal in most other ways.
18/30.
So, er. Let me come up with the averages.
Supadudz averages ((17+21+0+7+18)/5)/30 = 10.6/30 = 1.06/3
Ramshutu averages ((18+14+23+6+9)/5)/30 = 14/30 = 1.4/3
Sorry I made an error in the math. I will work on this later.
You, vote pls ;)
Good luck. Hope you guys vote (Ramshutu I know you'll vote, so no point pinging you xD)
Supadudz our RO is over and if you feel too offended by my feedback, that's genuinely your issue. If you grudge-vote against me on my rap battle vs Ramshutu or elsewhere, at least justify it well. I'm not gonna pussyfoot around your emotions as it will hinder your improvement as a rapper.
RFD Part 1/11
Something to bear in mind is how, despite there being a severe disparity in experience with rap that That1User was able to surpass SupaDudz in raw quality of wordplay and comprehension of rhyme-scheme. It is actually quite embarrassing for supadudz and he constantly refuses to take my advice on this matter but he consistently says things that DO NOT rhyme in any standard rap accent as the last parts of lines and it's not even in the middle of a consistent rhyme scheme as an exception, it's the only pairing of that rhyme at times, meaning it undeniably shames him as a rapper.
RFD part 2/11
I will start with wordplay quality. This is both the metaphorical-stacking towards puns and the actual word used to be the punchline as opposed to synonyms of it. This is a skill that Nicki Minaj is a goddess at in rap and while she lacks in many other areas, wordplay quality is something she surpasses many, many rappers at by miles (she's on par with Eminem, the famous wordplay God). This is about quality more so than quantity.
This is the most severe category where That1 outshone SupaDudz. It is clear to me, also from another battle I did with That1, that T1U is used to poetry and good at wordplay and metaphorical stacking from a poetic point of view. SupaDudz struggles to understand the value of metaphors and his punchlines usually are 2-lines deep (which is very shallow) at all times. He tends to never, even once, build up a metahporical punch for 3+ lines and this costs him dearly.
I rank SupaDudz 11/30 in this category and T1U 19/30.
Both struggle to wordplay to any incredible degree and don’t see the value in sometimes bringing up a metaphor of several verses prior, in a later verse but it’s a secret thing that rappers like myself, eminem and Minaj love to do, it really lets the skill flourish to a more observant listener/reader.
RFD part 3/11
Supadudz begins his rap calling T1U an ‘irrelevant peasant’ this was good enough flow to admire even though the leading part of the line was ‘who are you, who are you’... Lol… The issue is that following this he begins with ‘trying to act tough’ which in no way at all flows well, metaphorically (let alone syllable-wise) with ‘who are you, who are you’ and doesn’t even slide along from ‘irrelevant peasant’ if he’s going for a jittery rhyme-heavy flow. Then he rhymes ‘irrelevant peasant’ with ‘were really resistant’... only the ‘re’ and ‘tant’ remotely can be said to rhyme properly. ‘Were’ isn’t said as ‘where’ and I don’t know if this is some accent thing but ‘resistant and ‘ant peasant’ are also paced totally differently in most people’s accents, it is a very bad punchline to build up to. So the peasant isn’t ACTING resistant, they are REALLY resistant? This is followed by ‘posted it’ (as in challenge) and ‘take your lyrics and turn them into shit’ and neither of these 2 are linked to the peasant-metaphor nor to each other in any punchline-sense. They are both standalone-jibes. To follow up from how terrible T1U’s DART Career is, Dudz finishes off the verse with ‘pinned up against the fence’... Except that if T1U truly was terrified he/she wouldn’t have accepted the challenge in the first place and the fact a noob is willing to take you on itself is an insult to you. This is a very backfiring way to end Verse 1.
RFD part 4/11
Why focus on Verse 1? This is a first impression a rapper gives the audience of the skill and style, you think Minaj is going to start a diss with weak bars like that? Fuck no, the entire bar will build up metaphors and similes with brutal elegance.
T1U enters weak as well rhyme-scheme wise but in terms of punchlines this already began to make me smirk in a somewhat impressed manner. “Row row row you got no flow” is a fantastic way to mock how dudz repeated ‘who are you’ in his first line and it’s even followed with ‘poor poor’ in the next line but the is
RFD part 5/11
T1U’s highlights of wordplay are as follows:
“I'll keep trying as you keep dying
Taking you down till you go flying
Shooting you out of the sky
Cause it's duck season”
Leading into this punchline:
“You're dinner now
Eaten by a peasant
You just a pheasant“
The idea that Dudz is a lower quality being than T1U is even picked up very remotely in the next Verse:
“Your house is made of straw
One breathe and you will fall
Inhale, exhale, you will fail
Take you down wall to wall”
Now for more highlights:
“You're nothing but a Greek geek serving up grease away from Greece
Flying away like geese so it's time for you to cease before you decease”
The thing is, this backfires on the notion that he’s a poor man’s bird as goose is actually more expensive than duck, which was what you implied he wasn’t worthy of being in the verse mentioned earlier. This is why T1U isn’t a 25+/30 wordplay-user. Never backfire on a previous metaphor in the same rap battle. Shit like this matters to severely observant rap connoisseurs like myself.
Calling himself/herself King of Dreams more than once isn’t the same as ‘carrying’ a metaphor or simile across, since it’s the same phrase and isn’t wordplayed successfully the second time that it’s brought up.
Here’s another highlight of T1U’s wordplay/metaphor-stacking: