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@Bones
It has not begun yet
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@Greyparrot
That failed to answer the question it replied to.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I don't have to hate cotton clothing to hate slave plantations
You do have to hate a government that does not blackmail/force slavers to cease their enslavement if others, to hate slavery.
Nice try at the red herring analogy, I am just too adept to fall for such rhetoric, I saw the flaw instantly.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
That isn't even close to what I said. Whether or not I agree with a goal, or have personally acted towards it has nothing to do with whether I'll tolerate the use of force or fraud.
Force is necessary to enforce the will of the populace (in democracy) or leadership (in autocracy) upon those that wish to circumvent the rules of the system.
Fraud is committed by the rich to tax-evade severely, regularly and at large. The poor-welfare fraud is mainly being used out of desperation to cope better. So, which fraud disgusts you more?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Oh, I see. So you are fine with others helping the poor but never yourself.
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I am a huge supporter of food banks (I agree with the left-wing that in the ideal endgame they aren't needed but I am a fan of them for now in all societies that need them) and am curious about the core opposing stance that right-wingers have to everything from welfare through to charities like food banks.
If somebody is so poor they can't eat, they can't have the energy to do a good job at work, decreasing their productivity towards the nation's economy.
This means even a sheer sociopath should not mind people sparing some food and sanitary products to food-bank style charities to help out those with their backs against the wall, in particular in these times where even a commute can wreck their wealth.
This 'they are lazy' concept is bullshit. The vast majority of the severely poor are not lazy, they are perhaps ill-informed on money management that are now doomed due to that but they need help at times to even cope and have breathing room to feed themselves and/or families.
I ask to you, in your ideal solution to poverty without moving towards social democratic benefits, welfare etc how does the society eliminate brutally severe poverty where going severely hungry and without basic sanitary products is necessary for the poor to be able to afford their bills?
Food banks are supposed to cover when the welfare system is falling short on certain families, this question is about both and why the right-wing oppose them.
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@ILikePie5
Why are you putting LIMITATIONS that hurt our ability to LIMIT the power of moderators?
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The mods didn't abuse their power in banning Wylted. Furthermore, you need to stop dumping all blame on Ragnar when Whiteflame calls the shots no matter how much he wants to pull a David and deflect blame for the hard calls being made while he is the chief.
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It's criminal and unlawful to insult a horse
I think this quote should always be pasted on every TheUnderdog OP.
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@zedvictor4
Black people say nigga even outside of the music industry.
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@zedvictor4
Rape isnt bdsm. I did stay on track by the bdsm analogy. Raceplay kink exists as does humiliation kink. I know precisely what I am talking about and how consent matters.
The signiicant majority of people, black or nit, feel disgust and offence at the N-word being spoken by a white person. We can pretend it is not the case or logic our way out of it or we can respect the limit most have and that it isnt necessary to hurt their feelings.
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@coal
@ILikePie5
@Intelligence_06
@Benjamin
@ComputerNerd
Student Application for Benjamin (applied on PM)
You are free to fill this out on PM, I am posting this part public to have something to go back to and copy and paste.
If you reply on PM, I won't reveal your answers, I also am somewhat worried that since you are already a successful debater, how I can necessarily see and know you improved due to my teaching or not.
That said, I will help you and am happy you signed up.
Anyone else looking to improve should see the progress Benjamin does or doesn't make.
Application Form:
What is debating to you? (minimum words, 12)
Which type of debating are you most concerned with improving at? (formal 1v1 online, formal 1v1 irl, forum/reddit debating, debating family and friends amicably IRL or what)
What do you think you're weakest at in debating?
You guessed it... what are your strengths in debating?
Do you have Discord or if remaining on-site are you able to genuinely Instant Message me an average of 6 per day over the next two weeks, these will not be tiny PMs I am referring to?
Do you have Google Docs or something like it? You can post a long PM if you want but I want to see how you use formatting and presentation aspects to refine that.
The rest will be in Lesson 1. Do you want your Lesson 1 to focus on drills (testing you out immediately) or easing you in via concepts and theories I have discovered or know of?
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@Lunatic
@coal
@Mikal
COME ON BOYS LET'S SEE IT 1V1 ANYONE
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@Barney
@Vader
@whiteflame
@Username
@ebuc
WAHOOOOHAA LET'S GO WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO OUTRAP ME
Beat to loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-fMB9v56LI
Time for a rhyme
Tick, tock heart stops for a second but the mind ran,
Fear sets in, adrenaline gets me wondering 'why can ebuc rhyme time with time on all those lines and yet I'm posting lyrics so fire that grandmas be dyin' while cooking last supper's up in some fryin' pans,
Think you gimmicks can mimic these lyrics? I'll cut off your digits if you don't push on their limits and type this shit sick, you got fifteen minutes you BITCHES, this aint quick arithmetic, it's cryptic and you're tangled in vines that aint untyin', DAMN
I'll grab a whiteflame by the tie while he's cryin' and and say I'm the Messiah, Jew, Fuck is you thinkin' posing like you higher, fam?
This is the knuckleduster to your eye while you Barney-ass Dinosaurs dance round the fire sparkling from the Coal, yeah I'm slim shady here and you dissin' me's gonna end you up like Mariah's fans,
Better blow hard fans, or carbon dioxide'll lose an atom per molecule, monoxide chokin' George Floyd back in spirit, can't breathe, fuck my limits, I shit in your mouth, Supadudz that's some scat, suck on that, I'll batter you, rattle your diaphragm,
This is how you rap battle, I played nice and saddled so far, anyone wanna step to me? Forget it, G, I'll bend it like beckham and kick your balls through your jaw, straight up shatter your spine; now aint that a plan?
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@zedvictor4
Digging into innocent origins has fuck all to do with the actual act or usage of the thing as we know and recognise it.
The first time 'n****r' was used properly in the context of our language, and for thousands upon millions of times after that, it was used to degrade, humiliate and abuse black people who at the time were first enslaved and later were poor and oppressed regardless of their superficial freedom from bondage.
You could essentially think of the entire thing as bdsm without the sex and with absolutely 0 consent in a very verbal-degrading kink like way where in the current situation the only time blacks even somewhat consent to it is when other black people use it without hard R and definitely no racist intent behind the term.
If that is too hard to understand, then you're not fit to be debating context.
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@Greyparrot
Oh yes it must be Biden's fault that Putin has gone fucking insane.
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@TheMorningsStar
He is not just a 'not good person' at all, he is absolutely incompetent. The very things he brags are his father's legacies.
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@oromagi
She is a Washington Post journalist.
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@thett3
Wait I was confused who you were calling hot. I dont find Taylor Lorenz hot much at all she isn't my facial type.
I didnt look much into the doxxed person's identity and have little interest if the right wing troll is hot or not.
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@TheMorningsStar
It is amusing how you guys deflect so much.
Is a man who does the things I described in my post who you feel most suitable person of all citizens in the US to lead the nation?
Stop deflecting, answer it crystal clear.
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@TheMorningsStar
The first sentence of your post proves there was no delusion to accuse me of.
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Tucker Carlson is a POS who has zero better things to do with his life than smear campaign sensationalism.
If Lorenz cannot handle that heat, she need not take it out on some user of TikTok that offended her.
The real solution would be for her to report the account and even retaliate by slinging mud back at Carlson if that is her way of handling it. She never needed to cross the line.
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@thett3
I genuinely do not find her hot btw but it could just be a personal taste thing, what do I know.
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What she did to the owner if Libs of Tik Tok, if done by a man, would get the highest level of stalking charges and harassment-based RO imaginable.
To me, this is not really an issue of Leftist media power but rather a complete double standard when analysing doxxing and stalking when done by a woman. If she does not get officially charged with stalking, she has basically played the card of being a woman that stalked a woman as if it is okay.
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@zedvictor4
The origins of all guilty humans of rape is further up their family tree at some point an innocent human who didnt rape.
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@zedvictor4
Actually a hero in Britain, the strictly come dancing girl opts to remain deaf and have no operation to hear in a permanent sense, she does use her implants now and again but she actually danced deaf to my knowledge.
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@3RU7AL
ARE HUMANS UNDECIPHERABLE ENIGMAS OR PROGRAMMABLE BLACK BOXES?
In both, we are completely unpredictable and incalculable to the average other person but in the black box scenario, once the contents and coding of us is revealed, we are decipherable to the hacker/agents in on the secret.
I would say most humans are closer to the latter but certain humans such as myself are in between, meaning we do not respond to peer prwssyre and subliminal messaging etc quite as the majority of neurotypical humans would.
So all of us are eventually decipherable but the answer is most are just decipherable... 'black boxes' (it isn't as secretive as that even).
do you believe that people tend to adopt general strategies to deal with challenges they encounter ??
Depending what 'general' means maybe but I would say only 18% at most actively do this. The vast majority are metaphorically sleepwalking on autopilot for most of their life.
do you believe these strategies are identifiable ??
Physiological and straightforward ones are, yes. However the strategy that a con artist uses to handle an undercover cop in the heat of a moment will be a very unidentifiable one if it's sophisticated (and vice versa though more identifiable). I am kind of confused because is bringing an umbrella/raincoat when one predicts rain considered a 'general strategy' or just 'basic knowledge'? To me, it is the latter but if it is a strategy, then it is certainly identifiable.
(1) do you think a person should get their sense of self-worth from within themselves or from what other people think of them?
We cannot ever fully know what more than 1 or 2 others think of us (even then we never truly know). We can only know how they react to and interact with us, as well as sometimes learning what they tell others about us behind our backs.
Therefore, the answer is complex because the latter is ruled out but the former is not at all the full picture.
I think a severe schizophrenic person gets their self-worth entirely internally as in 100%. Then from there, you get the severely introverted and/or autistic as well as the less schizophrenic. They get it 85% within but already external things surely matter.
The external things go beyond what others think of them since if I think you're great but constantly invade your personal space and irritate you, you will feelore insecure around me than if I thought you're a mediocre borderline loser but interact with you pleasantly and fake-friendly on a consistent basis. EQ matters a lot in this and those with low EQ can hurt the self esteem of people they think highly of while high EQ people can raise the self esteem of people they think very poorly of. I do mot understand this question's dichotomy as it is not only about opinion but respectful, friendly treatment.
A vet does not have to significantly admire the cat they work with to respect its boundaries and deal with it fantastically, the same goes for high EQ humans and those they personally do not truly admire but simply respect the boundaries of.
Imagine a stalker fan and their idol. The fan thinks so highly of the idol but makes them eventually feel violated and really insecure.
(2) do you prefer to be spontaneous and go out and travel and do things "IRL" or do you prefer to think about doing things and lose yourself in movies and television shows and books ?
Both... totally depends on who I am with and what weirdness/awkwardness I can get away with. Am I goofing off and just going with the flow or am I getting a job done?
(3) do you think people should generally trust their gut or do you think people should generally think things through ??
Definitely the latter should be the go-to but there are times in life where your subconscious vibe does hint at you how much or how little you will genuinely enjoy somebody or an activity. Listen to it then.
Gut instinct matters in times of emotional distress purely because following it automatically is less stressful for the mind. Be careful, don't be a sucker, keep your guard up and do think more than you follow your gut.
(4) do you think people should follow a strict core code of laws or principles no matter what, or do you think that people should follow different rules in different situations ??
The law is the law but beyond that my answer is fluid and thus neither.
Follow a strict self-developed code that has within it, got parts to tweak to context and circumstance.
There's a different correct response to seeing a rape happen without cops nearby and seeing it happen with not only cops doing it but none nearby to help. Be sneakier and very streetsmart in how you film and get help in the latter scenario. Evidence will be everything, whereas in the former instinctively running to the cops would suffice.
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@TheMorningsStar
If you talk percentage, then you are probably right for a simple reason.
The percentage of a smaller, rural community that are gonna be needed to make a food bank, soup kitchen etc function is a significantly larger percentage than the equivalent in a more urban area. The fact is that coincidentally, many rural areas are very right-wing and many urban areas are leaning to (or very) left-wing.
The reason is probably linked to the fact that left-wing parties are more progressive and right-wing are more regressive/reactionary. This means that people into progress even technologically and in the sense of urbanisation are driven there.
That, however, is not what I was referring to and why I didn't particularly mention New York in my example.
What specifically is true with LGBT is that the people who more readily empathise with them and would be okay with two men sleeping in the same bed are the ones least likely to lash out and care if they actually were intimate. The fact that certain areas have a weird double standard of guys hugging and holding hands even being okay in certain contexts but then beating the shit out of somebody for being openly gay in another context, has to do with their lack of EQ, as Swagnarok puts it 'social and intellectual challenged societies'.
This means that his theory backfires because the states most focused on insisting it's okay to be gay are the ones with higher social and intellectual focus within their culture. There is no way somebody with high EQ will bash on and hate a gay person simply for being gay, they'd empathise with them.
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@TheMorningsStar
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@TheMorningsStar
The AI disagrees with that. The AI has 100% winrate now against the world champions.
What you call abstract just means more lines need to be calculated in a small amount of time. The AI also studies past games of opponents and knows tendencies, enabling it to decide between 3 or 4 different routes and consistently taking the game to the route that the enemy is statistically least familiar with.
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Trump didn't just cheat on his wife multiple times, he's partied with Epstein, committed countess tax frauds and never run a single one of his businesses at all, he hires managers for each and the only ones he actually tried to somewhat self-manage went to shit.
He is a sham in every sense of the word. He funded Hillary when she was against Obama beause Trump is a racist whose only true alignment is with white-supremacist scumbags and filthy rich psychopaths.
He probably reminds his children everyday of the threats that keep them smiling and worshipping their scumbag father on camera and Twitter. When investigations came onto his son, he was ready to throw him under the bus in the blink of an eye.
He is not anti-establishment, he is the establishment's worst elements in one man. Rich-elitist, white-supremacist, male-sexist, heterosexual-suoremacist and proud of all of those as if they are a privilege. Every part of the 'rich'comes from daddy's money.
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@TheMorningsStar
I know about it due to geekiness and being aware that the AIs used to beat Chess are less advanced only than the ones used to beat Go.
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While California is low, please observe the trend here. Very religious and right-wung states consist of people with lower average IQ. Trends are stronger signals than specific states.
I am not sure how California scored so low, considering some if the best scientific inventing and discovering in America is happening there. Massachusetts being so high is not surprising.
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Please show me empathy or signs of it amongst severely right-wing States, specifically the ones that until very recently, were known to be particularly homophobic.
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@TheMorningsStar
Blind altruism is not high EQ.
High EQ is empathy, good self-awareness and regulations of one's emotions as well as a community that helps its most vulnerable rather than saying they are lazy/trouble and deserve their agony.
There, in fact, is absolutely no way for a LGBT phobic society to have higher average EQ than a significantly LGBT phobic society, simply by nature of how EQ works.
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@Polytheist-Witch
So, in your view who is more likely to be a rational person, an ardent Theist or an ardent atheist?
To me, it is clear. Perhaps to you the lines are blurry. The reason people do not say that IRL is that believe it or not cancel culture doesn't only favour left wing, secular positions.
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@Swagnarok
Your theory has one glaring flaw.
The most homophobic areas are the least EQ and IQ areas alike.
Take a group of people from Tennessee or Texas and compare their EQ and IQ to a group from California or New Jersey.
Then after analysing the statistics, remove severe outliers and recalculate.
I guarantee you that California will win. This is not bias, it is just reality. Backwards places in the same nation of US clearly have people with less astute mindsets and tendencies.
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Contrary to the popular position that RFD rules are too strict, do you agree with me that they'rd ridiculously lax and open to people being able to justify voting either way even on very onesided debates (against the blatant winner)?
I do.have an example or two from.the user Novice but this really isnt about me alone.
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@Nyxified
>egalitarian
> redubs it 'feminism' to make it sound man-hating and calls it 'far left' xD!
Oh god. This is good stuff.
2)She Is pro choice
Must be a dirty socialist!
3) She supports Medicare for all
Evil far-left witch! Macron wants the same but oh no!
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@ILikePie5
That's cute. Let him teach it then on here or is his specialty being a whiny little bitch about others trying to do something good?
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The way I see it, I could of course keep being a great debater here and rising the ranks and maintain a high position. The question is if that's all I do or if I spread my wisdom and skill to others on a website that already is on the brink of death and needs to encourage and maintain debaters that are scared to step into the ring after a few failures.
I am offering this to help others, you can be as much of a dick about it as you want. If nobody wants my help, it's their loss and the website's. I am doing what I can to help the website thrive, it's fine if haters are gonna hate.
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@coal
Feel free to offer yourself up as a competing coach, let's see how many roll up or if you are just as mockable too. Happy to compete and learn. :)
Just as with debating, there's always room for improvement in coaching.
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@zedvictor4
People often confuse the science of reasoning with the art of debating.
It's something I do not personally believe in or agree with and have found great success in separating the two, both in terms of my elo on the website and in the way I approach a heated debate.
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@thett3
You are a married/engaged man... are you telling me every time you and your non-pregnant wife have pleasurable... third base experience, you would want her to get pregnant as a result?
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I am coaching students in debating soon. Sign up here: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7498-i-am-willing-to-personally-coach-students-in-debating?page=1
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