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@Earth
Btw I just thought of a Sambo Boxing theme in top of gear and 'b'.
Conor McGregor's most famous fails were to Floyd Mayweather and Khabib (sorry do not know his full name off by heart)
The latter was even mentioned in Mharman's PM it would seem (and it is true Khabib is a Sambo two-time world champion).
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@whiteflame
Yes its fast af. In fact it only seemed delayed by Luna's activity.
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@whiteflame
You are panicking rn, I can smell it. Alpha Town is bodying you. Badabing badabeta.
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@Earth
After you hammer (I hope you do and am busy rn for at least 3ish hours so wont type more)
Take note of this:
- If you were roleblocked and I was killed, Sambo makes extreme sense as scum but read point 3.
- If you tracked and got a no-visit but I died there is zero reason to assume with Town having so many PRs that scum have a vanilla goon left. Instead, assume ninja.
- Capoiera cannot be what you base theme analysis on in the hypothetical where Supa is scum. Instead, presume fakeclaim and that he was BJJ and if he is BJJ point 1 becomes contested so either way stronglu assume Karate is innocent.
- NP1 went fast af, Supa barely was around and has enaed us to vote off wjiteflame with two uncontested investigative PRs left. It doesnt appear to be a bus. Townread Supa and That2 as solid defaults, work backwards depending how the night phase went.
Keep secret who you're tracking. I will find put if I can self-investigate or not and if not, I will also keep it secret what I do, I need to consider a redirector (makes capoiera likely scum if redirection occurred because of how tricky it is)..
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@Earth
Btw, whiteflame, unless I missed it, never panicked or pointed put that if he isnt damn sure me or that2 is scum, that a Mharman-Supa team wpuld have blitzed by now.
He has consistently behaved odd af. He chainsawed day one by saying he scumread incel and yet didnt officially chainsaw (ut means voting somebody in a faceoff, as scum, where the bandwagon you predict wins the lynch is on somebody that flips Town). While you can accuse me of chainsawing, why would I? Why would I remove Aikido who i was so sure was a protective role and said 'probably isnt vanilla' in my final plea? He would protect me!
If I were scum, I had no fucking reason to not fully defend there. I had no reason to stop voting Pie for an ideal chainsaw that clearly was not gaining momentum.
You can notice that today, WF spend so much effort appealing to me and only me for the entire start of the DP after I lead on him. He doesnt grill others at all nor appeal to them until needed.
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@Earth
It is Mharman and Whuteflame.
I am absolutrly certain of WF, Supa as partner can work yes but Mharman's coincided slip in game knowledge and contrast in pushing for NL for a similar concocted 'test' that WF is pushing seems to me like partners no longer distancing, since they are scared shit of a loss that they cannot afford to bus with.
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@Earth
Vote off wjiteflame.
The structure of the scum PM will finally give a strong hint as to the theme.
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@ILikePie5
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@Barney
@Vader
@whiteflame
@Incel-chud
@ADreamOfLiberty
I merely requested that we shed the veil of pretending he is talking about fucking dogs, when it is clear he means children
Nope, you asked to have people PM you and assist you with doxxing him based on a notion that he is a closet pedo. That wasn't what I referred to but don't downplay what you did. What you did to ADOL is no different at all to what David did to you, in fact it is more aggressive.
It's one rule for you and another for others Wylted, always has been. You can beat the crap out of a guy for doing a car towing because you feel hurt by it and want to teach him a lesson. You can beat the crap out of a guy in a pizza hut because you feel he needs to learn that lesson.
Will Smith slaps a guy for dissing his wife and suddenly you're mr responsibility and pacifism.
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In boxing and Capoiera you 'dance around the ring' in a way. However, why would Supa claim his real martial art as the last, very late claimer, if he's scum?
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That2user has behaved extremely consistently towny this game and totally out of sync with whiteflame, it doesn't read as either partners directly nor partners distancing. It reads as a Towny and Scum interacting, the scum being whiteflame.
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At this point, based on me knowing that Kung Fu, Judo, Wrestling, Muay Thai and Aikido are Town and that the remaining are Karate, Sambo and (possible fake due to lateclaim) boxing and (also possible fake) capoiera are still in the game.
Sorry I didn't complete the sentence.
At this point, based on that, I know there's no coherent theme.
It's either 'b' is in martial art name or that capoiera is all legs and boxing is all arms or something (for the scum theme meaning inverted theme).
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@Earth
Thank god that Aikido isn't in olympics or you would have thrown whole game by assuming a theme when we have literal slips from whiteflame and mharman...
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@That2User
A theme can literally be 'b' is not in martial art name.
At this point, based on me knowing that Kung Fu, Judo, Wrestling, Muay Thai and Aikido are Town and that the remaining are Karate, Sambo and (possible fake due to lateclaim) boxing and (also possible fake) capoiera are still in the game.
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@Earth
dude, I know what you're trying but you need to believe me I thought about that for a whole 3 days now, there's no coherent theme
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Can you show me a pro-taliban video as in explicitly being pro-Taliban? I am just curious, I don't want to search it myself for obvious reasons but I wouldn't believe it exists.
I have no idea where you got the notion that's not blacklisted, meaning the core brutally fascist beliefs of the Taliban being directly advocated for, let alone their literal agenda.
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it's entirely concocted by either very irrational townthink from Mharman (which contradicts his lynch-happy attitude DP1 when he joined the bandwagon on CN who he'd previously defended) or by whiteflame (who I am absolutely certain is scum now).
This was a brainfart by me, I said 'either irrational townthink' but after the 'or' said whiteflame.
I wanted to say something about whiteflame on top of it but I meant 'or scumthink'.
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There is absolutely nobody who is Town, in That2, Supa, Mharman and Earth who should support NL here. Take a further note that Earth should selfishly want to be pushing for a lynch here as he is the most likely nightkill target, with me being secondary if WF opts for the sac.
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If we don't NL and Scum lacks a roleblocker, unless the scum is ninja who still has their power, the tracker and parity cop combination leads to an absolutely forced town win post-wf-lynch.
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@Earth
@Vader
@Mharman
@That2User
Something really interesting to me is this.
The push for NL makes absolutely no sense from anybody's point of view who would be Town at this point in the day phase and game.
The reason for this, is the cop reports both clear a living person and the flip of a dead scum is essential to understand/predict both the theme and the role of the other and therefore determine whether (if you townread whiteflame) whiteflame's innocent on Mharman were real or not.
So, the logic runs like this for any town member at all (but this logic is closer to non-Earth members of Town):
- We will not be any more likely to determine scum today than tomorrow unless, out of WF and RM, one sacrifice-kills the other and then the partner kills the tracker the next night.
- We will not be any less likely to determine scum if we push for a vote right here right now, only talking and deception can occur more. Honest analysis will already have occured, there is essentially 0 room for further slips at this exact point in DP/game. We have explored every avenue of thought, can read the thought process of RM vs whiteflame and if we are that2user or supadudz, should be dead sure there's a CC there because mharman and earth can't both be innocent and probability is that mharman wouldn't be lawyered (and godfather just doesn't fit the theme but even if Sambo were godfather, why are we not wanting to lynch the partner first, which would be RM under this particular hypothetical).
- The gain of NL is 100% scumsided. What will happen is that, based on WF currently appearing to lose the CC if he is scum he sac-kills RM, doesn't care if he's tracked to it and lets his partner have a free 3-way since RM's innocent report is on the Tracker who the partner will kill the next night phase. On the flip side, if RM is scum, even though he's winning the CC there's still a simple gain to scum; get rid of Earth so there's no clear variable left in the game (who RM had no reason as scum to admit he had an innocent report on nor to pretend he could be tricked by scum after asking Lunatic).
- In fact, if RM is scum, NL benefits him and his partner so incredibly much if there's a roleblocker, all they do is roleblock the tracker, gamble the game on the already winning cc between RM and whiteflame and let the chips fall where they may when whiteflame catches RM's partner
This is the way your mind should perceive the hypotheticals. There is absolutely zero gain/logic that supports NL, it's entirely concocted by either very irrational townthink from Mharman (which contradicts his lynch-happy attitude DP1 when he joined the bandwagon on CN who he'd previously defended) or by whiteflame (who I am absolutely certain is scum now).
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@whiteflame
Also, let's be clear about something: seeing RM as sus means you do not trust his Justice result.
That's not how it works.
That's not what I accused based on.
You shouldnot even be considering anything past believing there'd not be 3 investigative PRs,
it's that simple.
As soon as your logic is 'there are not more than 2 investigative PRs' you instantly should conclude RM is scum as if he's town, Earth (the third investigative PR) is town.
Mharman also didn't realise I cleared Earth, which completely aligns with the idea that you two got carried away in your scumchat and both missed a crucial detail in deciding what BS reasons to give to justify a NL.
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@Vader
All of these techniques shown are a combined attack and defense type martial arts, but boxing is more reliant on the attack,
Wrong, Aikido is pure defence.
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@Earth
It's simple for me at this point, the action today is to lynch whiteflame, his revealed PM structure will give an invaluable clue as to who is scum out of the other three and you and I will both have the ability to use our powers that night (unless roleblockers) ensuring autowin (unless ninja or roleblocker).
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@Earth
Going to try to hash out the theme. Would like someone to repost the claims list.
Theme is irrelevant. Whiteflame easily risked a fakeclaim if Supa was his partner and lied with him.
If they weren't partners, Thetheme is just 'b' in the martial art or protective gear in the martial art.
These both make the team Sambo and Boxing, the only alternative would be that perhaps Supa lied.
If Supa lied, it's likely he's really BJJ but either way the real theme could be 'starts with B' or 'arms and legs' as the real scum-theme (with all martial arts of Town using combined limbs) of the game.
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@Vader
I literally said you are less likely to be scum after reading up than whiteflame. Reading comprehension -100
I read that. You based it on him being Boxing and you not thinking that's a martial art.
That's ridiculous reasoning.
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@Vader
I claimed vanilla a long time ago with my actual claim
it wasn't that long ago at the time I asked it and you had started the post with a 'sorry I was inactive' so I skimread it assuming you didn't claim after, which I later realised.
You still have not explained how your role and martial art were linked.
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@Vader
However, my issue with WF stems a bit more. He is pushing a VTNL to test his claim, "theory" to prove his innocence about himself, but that makes me believe he is going to bait mafia into doing a gambit, like he did in the game with me with the redirect
What gambit? Is this a joke?
What gambit can a town cop pull at this point in the game with this situation?
There is zero gambit. The gambit is that today ends in NL, whiteflame can 100% ensure an unclear 3-way by killing me tonight, insisting his partner doesn't visit anybody.
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@Vader
1. You are scum2. WF is scumThat's the read I have. You are pushing a narrative that these 2 roles can not co-exist in anygame, this is not true. I have had these roles co-exist in this game before in a modified game
This game isn't modified or bastard modding.
The idea that a role reverser can make the cop totally useless is really odd. My role would enable me to still achieve an alignment read with the role reverse hitting one of my targets, the harmony is far more realistic.
While the role reverse can render the tracker useless, the point is moot as the tracker is cleared by me and has no visit-analysing PR contradiction.
I have cleared the tracker, I am the parity cop (Justice) so anything that was revealed throughout this day phase, including the logic and severe errors that whiteflame has made in his analysis and reasoning, lead me to scumread whiteflame. His martial art can't fit any coherent theme, as well.
If whiteflame is town, I am to assume Mharman is found innocent, that scum therefore lies in you, mharman and that2 and that therefore you and that2 are scum.
Stop playing games with me telling me I've underanalysed or thought too simplistically about this.
There is absolutely no sensible reason for anybody in this game to be considering that both me and whiteflame are genuine in our claims. It thematically doesn't add up, he didn't even soft a cc to me day one at all. It's just fucking ridiculous.
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@Incel-chud
That's a hilarious stance from you, given what you did to two people recently.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Which space program have you seen evidence is happening? Please avoid violating 'cross-contamination' rule and bringing rivalries and arguments elsewhere into a separate thread on another topic.
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@Incel-chud
It is possible that Jada is the narcissistic one and manipulated Will to lash out, having regularly guilt tripped him.
Either way, it is assault.
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This is also why I avoid comedy aimed to ridicule victims of things, I am much more about stand-up that targets specific tropes and situations.
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@Incel-chud
That's disgusting, that a comedian mocked an audience member for having third degree burns.
As for this issue, I not only think the joke did touch on going too far but of all celebs who would do this, I cannot believe Will Smith is the one... seemed so fun-loving.
I am not a stranger to high-functioning sociopaths and narcissists masking very well but he really fooled me.
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Wow they actually got banned for showing a speech from a Russian minister that even CNN broadcasted:
That is pure cancel culture and double standard
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Btw for theme analysis if Supa is scum, his martial art is to be negeted in reasoning, he had the easiest fakeclaim opportunity.
I want his reasoning that capoiera is vanilla, he said he'd provide it.
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Sambo and boxing both have a B in them btw. At this point I am open to theme splits as stupid as that. LUNATIC HAD NO INTELLIGENT THEME SPLIT, that is for sure.
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@Earth
@Vader
If we NL here, I want ypur ecplicit loyalty to a read:
That2user is Town.
If you rethink this or back out, you are the singular point of failure in Town. I am that sure due to several things WF slipped and did or didnt do. I won't specify it, it is many small things.
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Btw after I am dead, if that2 ejds up lynched, I will not forgive whatever person does so. If I not dead and instead I am roleblocked, Sambo is the roleblocker by logic of the grappling involved.
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@Earth
There is no test. They are desperate for a NL as they autolose otherwise, which tells me that WF will do the kill tonight and sac himself for his partner to kill you.
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@Incel-chud
But there are several, may even, right-wing podcast makers in YT with all kinds of stances, even flat earthers.
It is true sometimes if their angle is anti-Jew or some other discriminatory ot.super misinforming tjing regarding vaccines, censorship.hirs them.but I am not seeing the bias.
What I think is true is that the right wing has more (quantity wise) irrational and hateful people on it so naturally, more of them end up.censored at their extremes.
I do not understand why WION even got banned they probably said something negative about an Islamic regime if I could guess.
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@Earth
@Vader
@Mharman
@That2User
I think I fpund a theme. This is going to sound absolutely ridiculpus but if I am right it makes it bery clear that Sambo and Boxing are the theme.
Sambo and Boxing not only were primarily designed to vs themselves but the figjters wear protective gear in the authentic version.
Bare knuckle boxing has become a variant, not the default.
While Sambo and BJJ are based on boxing, the protective gear they wear is not worn in authentic boxing
If wrong, capoiera deals with leg attacks while boxing deals with arm attacks, it could be some odd duo.
In Karate the strikes of punching are there but Karate experts rarely utilise it because palm-strikes and kicks are much safer fight-wise. In Karate one of the only punches is a straight chest-aimed punch. This means if the opponent kicks, pushes, grabs, strikes etc back you are getting directly.hit if their limbs have the range of yours (or greater range). Furthermore it opens the arm up to locks and opens the stomach up to all sorts of attack if the opponent is nimble enough to handle the punch well.
Karate and boxing are only similar in that they exclusively strike but if that really is the theme, why would Kung Fu and Muay Thai, which are so strike-heavy be Town while BJJ is not even in the game?
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@That2User
Mharman and Whiteflame had the same slip within one page of each other. The exact same error in game knowledge.
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@That2User
Erm, he literlaly slipped one page ago, Whiteflame literally said he didn't know if Earth was town until I corrected him even at the top of this page.
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@Mharman
Later on, which you also missed, Earth strongly recommended what Pie did to me D1, which is to clarify with the game mod/host if lawyer/framer/godfather can trick me or not. To my surprise, they couldn't, since I did ask on PM when told to.
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@Mharman
I suspected Wylted and figured it would be crucial either way. I also was 90% sure I was dead or roleblocked after Aikido was gone with such a strong role to protect like that.
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