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@Castin
Nope actually it's about more than just that one thing but I can't frame that into a single forum post, it's to do with Airmax turning a wilful blind eye to it despite how close he is to Lunatic. Had Athias been so disrespectful and emotionally abusive to another user and 3RU7AL stood by and done absolutely nothing, it would incorporate my judgement too.
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@Mikal
The thing is this, I don't really want to discuss it or remember it all. I want to forget it as a blur and get over it.
So, I don't really see what it is I need to defend, I can fully justify to anybody why I am in the right and he is in the wrong but it depends on that person's moral compass and seeing the events that unfolded, I hate him and don't want to interact with him like I actually get anxious even seeing that he's the one who has written a post in a thread at this point. I just want to stay away from him, he is literally harassing me and a very bad kind of person that I can totally justify is so, to anyone in private who I trust won't PM-leak or start shit. The start is to firstly just sit back and read what unfolded from his return 2 weeks ago to now, the rest follows logically from there.
If there's any doubt in one's mind after that, chat with me in private. If you're blocked, it's probably for a reason though but I'm down to unblock if you tell me to unblock for a chat but I won't unblock someone who I see as 100% in it to leak the PMs and emotionally taunt me.
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@Lunatic
That is one way to twist me avoiding the opposite, I suppose.
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@Lunatic
Your solution to Airmax being correctly attacked by me about flaws of him as a candidate for a leadership position/role on this website is to simply attack me relentlessly and push me to psychological high-pressure breaking points and say 'you are having a mental breakdown lol'.
I am tired of repeating what I think of you as a person, I will say the obvious; I dislike you and consider you a person I want absolutely fuck all to do with. For very different reasons, I feel the same about Airmax.
The fact you have tethered his self worth and reputation to your own to the point where you will viciously attack anyone who dares question him and he tactically plays passive and quiet as you do so, totally dodging the questions highlights something deeper than just he's gonna let you do that if he wins. It shows a very sly coward using an abusive personality, neither of the two are people I want near a leadership position.
I couldn't give a damn what you do, you want teeth baring, okay, however I will bare them at my own pace and careful in how I word what I say. I am done playing nice with you and Airmax, I will still have to be somewhat passive due to site rules and what kind of villain you're trying to paint me as.
A man, or woman or genderfluid for that matter, who wants to fill a leadership position on this website needs to at the very least be able to handle heat and respond man-to-man or woman-to-man or whatever. Why the fuck do you need to bully me away from daring to say what I freely think about Airmax if you're pro free-speech? Let me say it, say what you think about him and let the readers decide. You're attacking the source again and again abusing every logical fallacy in the book (focusing on ad hom) because you can't handle that not everyone loves Airmax. Not even everyone except me, it's not DDO anymore and others have a voice here, your clique hasn't drowned them out like before.
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@Wylted
I am asking a rhetorical question here but have you ever have to live in a shithole tinpot type nation?
Try it, whether very corrupt or just very inept, such nations aren't places where you as an individual can turn things around.
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Ramshutu will vote against me, there is no doubt.
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@Lunatic
Me responding to you instead of airmax is strategy
It is 'strategy' and this is not me gaslighting you but what you think the strategy is, isn't what it is in this instance.
The strategy is you take all the blame and brunt while Airmax looks squeaky clean, it's ingenious and he doesn't have to tell you to do it for you to do it. You're like the enforcer, he's like the godfather (in this instance) except you're not directly hired, it's just personality types and the clique.
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@Lunatic
Actually, during this election, you don't seem to stand for anything except Airmax's pride and my humiliation.
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@Castin
Sure. Glad you're such a diehard fan of him the moment I'm not and vice versa, pretty weird.
If you're curious, unlike what others suggest, I don't pretend to doubt his validity. I do doubt it. This guy says he'll get us Internet-famous, cool... So... er... All these years of this site existing and he left us in the dirt but now he can win an election and suddenly he'll try? LMAO!
What a guy, damn I'm just bitter old RM and he's the heroic Airmax always so cordial.
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@Castin
He is a close associate of Airmax and the type of person Airmax is avidly supported by, if you don't at all judge by association, you're missing the difference between a chosen friend and a relative.
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@Wylted
If you're not being unironic (with you it's hard to tell), that's the exact kind of attitude I despise in your buddies this election.
Why would it matter? What about all the times before, before Presidency position was a thing? This position only stops bans (that the mods can ultimately override anyway) and holds events that can be held anyway, is that seriously what you base caring about this website on, that one position and who is in it?
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@Castin
Ask Airmax to provide any evidence he has pull on Twitter that he boasts.
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@Danielle
I think there needs to be sensible discussions about this.
If you have left uncensored and publicly available defamatory or 18+ or whatever else type of content, there should be a deadline after which the owner of the website can be held responsible.
Never entirely responsible, of course the poster of the content is the one ultimately to blame but partially for sure.
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@Mikal
You think because he is disagreeing with you in a heated manner, he is attacking you.
Sure, let's run with that narrative. Ignoring the levels of abuse engaged, I'm gonna take a break anyway. I am not gonna get baited by him here, as per your advice and I also am not enjoying this interaction at all. This is a site I use for my spare time, for fun and it's slowly becoming a nightmare that I barely want to open or type on (at least in the forums section) because of one particular bully.
If you think that isn't harassment, you don't fucking understand a damn thing about harassment but I genuinely don't care if it's ignorance or bias or what it is at this point. You are wrong about this, he is not just disagreeing with me.
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@Mikal
You hardly mention him at all?The man is living rent free in your brain lol
Everyone in everyone's brain other than those immediately interacting with them are living 'rent free' so I never quite bought into this idea or quip being as witty as it seems.
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@Mikal
I'm sure you think that.
I'm also sure you genuinely believe that because I am on the autistic spectrum, you are correct to suggest that I can't consider I'm wrong.
The difference between me and many, or let's say me and a minority and the many who are actually narrow-minded in denial, is the people like myself know that we are stubborn but also can consider being wrong (I've met a couple others like myself, not saying this 'type' is something you'll likely come across but they absolutely do exist). On the other hand, people such as yourself say they are openminded but for instance take the case of me saying Airmax being a manipulative guy who isn't all you think he is, you'd never consider you could be wrong on it. Take the instance of what you see as pitiful vs what I see as fulfilling, the difference is I can consider your viewpoint even though it hurts to read but throughout all exchanges that I have ever had with you, or at least recently (but as far back as I can remember) you are actually the one who never ever thinks he's wrong on anything and is so aggressive and stubborn in defending essentially all of his stances, it's just that I guess on here vs you on DDO, you stick to defending stances on people here only rather than stances on general debate topics.
Have you ever considered you're biased in Lunatic's favour? Like I don't mean consciously biased, I mean subconsciously. Have you actually considered it could be at play?
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@Mikal
If I had to read the cesspool of vomit you produce everyday and you spent your entire existence attacking me, it would not be fun for me either.
I barely mentioned Max at all other than in this election and very early on in this website or when matters of Max's moderation rarely got discussed and I was around to read the thread.
So, Idk what you mean but that's very akin to how I feel about Lunatic's posts as of late.
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@Mikal
I kinda wanted to see how the elections go before doing any more mafia. If airmax becomes president, I want to try and help revive this and get new members, as well as old. If anyone other than airmax wins, I just want the site to finally die.
When lying, it helps to fact-check how obviously false your lie is first.
Nice try though, except this kind of comment has been said over and over, that was just explicit and very recent.
This sentiment is shared, it's not unique to the user that posted it and is something that is also blatantly what Airmax feels or else he'd not 'bring in' contingent on his win.
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@Mikal
Also to clarify that is my opinion, not one of airmax. I have no idea what he thinks of you other than he probably is annoyed that you literally spend your entire day berating him and trying to smear his name with facts that are so far from the truth it's laughable.As far as I'm aware he's never had an issue with you. Luna is just way more outspoken and doesn't let bullshit fly
Nobody knows what Airmax thinks about anybody, he's very sly like that.
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@Mikal
I have met plenty of people who are quiet in the forums, who side with me but if you mean about years ago about Airmax, I didn't tell anyone about that and I admit I was toxic back then though Bench was more so (much more if I recall correctly).
To me, I don't really care about the ban itself but how he never ever would consider to unban me despite repeated efforts to prove I'd reformed and furthermore this isn't just about that, really it isn't.
What I have an issue with is this attitude you guys have of 'either vote us or we'll leave the site to rot'. It's childish, egotistical and pedantic and repulses not only me from voting for Airmax but many others, combine that with the treatment that Lunatic has given me and the way you and Airmax gaslight me for feeling bad about it whereas I can objectively prove to you he has been continually harassing me and have flagged posts that each have inside them directly nasty remarks that cannot be interpreted in any other way that intended humiliation and harassment.
What you are seeing now, including in this post where I call your 'vote or we leave' attitude childish, egotistical and pedantic is not really about 'tit for tat'. It's also actually that the way he's behaved only increases me assessing it as that and the fact you guys think you support freedom of speech is amusing.
Freedom of speech should mean you can say what you want, if it really means you can bully people and make them emotionally uneasy as possible until they're driven off the site if they say anything that's too weird or too annoying for your crowd (or too 'funny') then you actually are less freedom-oriented than somebody like me who draws clear lines on what is ok and what isn't.
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@Vader
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@Mikal
Also that is twice, once on each platform so what does that sound like? Can I do the same, just a small quote couple chats/places?
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@Mikal
Of course, your word is the evidence we need. For sure, Luna and you would be honest about it.
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@Vader
If I get other people from other websites to vote for brutal, he is disqualified?
I thought this too in reverse, didn't want to say it.
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@Vader
I meant no in that he is still able to run
Then why did your announcement not mention Hammer?
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@airmax1227
That is correct, you got Lunatic and Mikal to do it for you.
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@Vader
So Hammer is banned from running only because I brought it up?
Your administration didn't think that was serious to investigate?
How have you concluded Hammer is lying?
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@Castin
Do not let him bluff you, insist on proof he even has the pull.
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@Vader
Then, if Hammer is lying to get Airmax disqualified, is he still permitted to run?
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@whiteflame
I would like an official answer to the above post and elaboration on if you did or didn't pursue investigation on it.
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@Vader
Worth noting he's also had his goons campaigning for him on both Facebook and Discord, aka off the site
Are you accusing TheHammer of outright lying in order to disqualify Airmax1227 here? In that case, you should disqualify him for the lie, no?
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@Vader
Also not to mention if Airmax did that, he wouldn't so stupid as to publicly say he did it lol
He didn't do it either, he is getting his henchmen to do it for him. What you are doing is laughing 'lol' at your sheer corruption's blind spot.
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@Vader
Can you give me a few hours to ask thehammer a few things?
I will get you objective proof of Airmax campaigning offsite but getting Luna and Mikal to do it at his behest, I just need time.
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@Vader
Watch who they vote for, I amended the first URL, it's participants vs profiles
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@Vader
The thing is you are telling people who were not on the site originally to vote for 3ru7al. Max was campaigning to people who are on the site
That is a strange technicality, I already showed 2 users who are going to vote for him and signed up since Jan14th.
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This is a thread calling out moderation, the reason I had to link usernames is because I need to prove my theory is real when they act on it. If I am punished for this, that will only further prove my case.
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This user signed up January 16th and will be voting Airmax. I do not 100% know it but I can guess very effectively due to kfc image and you will fine that quite a few more accounts like this:
and others, which I won't reveal or specify yet so they are not sure what I have kept track or or am onto, are going to fradulently ruin the election by voting Airmax by signing up last minute.
On DMs, whiteflame told me this about Airmax's side doing it:
"As long as they're actual individuals and not instances of multi-accounting, they have the right to vote."
This is 100% in-context, on this topic, if need by I will screenshot.
On DMs, supadudz then warned me this:
"Just gonna let you know now if you are planning to recruit people from other sites to vote for Max, that's a violation of the rules and will get 3RU7AL disqualified"
This is sheer corruption and double-standard to the highest degree.
Do not worry though, I am not some dumb fool. I would never say shit as a candidate doing any of this and am aware both candidates are smart enough not to either. The question is about standards and fair play.
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@Mikal
Then you can talk to him on my behalf. I have been told by you and whiteflame not to interact, this is not really a smart idea for me as I know he will pull every dirty tactic in the book in the debate to get under my skin and at present I am emotional enough about this that it will work.
I will do this later on and formulate a proper case. In the meantime he is free to debate whoever on that topic.
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@Castin
Lol, 'twitter' sure.
It's a bluff.
If Airmax had so much sway like that then the real question is this, why hasn't he used it yet?
Based on what I see on Hive, it's full of very keen-to-debate personalities. I definitely believe they will eagerly show up as that user is indeed popular there and based on other things 3RU7AL has posted, I believe that user (logiczombie) is the 3RU7AL on this debate.
Airmax may bring in more thuglike socialites but do you know how you were treated on DDO? That's exactly how anyone outside of the inner circle ends up treated when Airmax is in charge with whiteflame by his side, which is going to instantly be happening.
The reason I accepted that happening was firstly I felt 3RU7AL had nothing big to offer, now I see differently, secondly I didn't feel badly treated enough by Lunatic to the blind-eye of Airmax to switch sides.
Airmax didn't just turn a blind eye, he invited people to it and participated in it and find it fun.
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@Mikal
I will not work anything out with that abusive person, I am willing to talk to you about it though.
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@airmax1227
I'm trying to follow the rules and etiquette here, and I also don't want to get bogged down in too much political side stuff anyway, so having a non-existent ground game - something that seems against the rules anyway - is probably for the best.
We both know Mikal and Lunatic have done your ground game dirty work for you, I can name (at least) 5 accounts that were created in the last 2 weeks that solely exist to vote for you, pretty much. I'll wait until they actually do it to name them.
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@airmax1227
You can post 1 every 3 days, even as a candidate but only one can be your official campaign thread.
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@Mikal
I 100% oppose whiteflame as judge on this debate.
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@Barney
It should be fairly easy for anyone to judge if either one of them is clearly and consistently the instigator; but I am pretty sure it's going to go into some grey areas.
There is no grey area at all. One just needs to scroll through thread and post history.
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@Castin
I think the answer is neutral on growth.
Airmax is good at growing it with frat boy types while 3RU7AL has just finally revealed he has sway with some very libertarian types:
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@Vader
Why didn't 3RU7AL push this before? I would have altered to vote him as soon as I realised he had genuine ability to make this popular amongst debaters elsewhere.
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@Wylted
@Mikal
Wylted doesn't sympathise with me much at all, he gave a story about how he was in Lunatic's shoes in a workplace and gave someone a bad time for making it clear they didn't like him being around them.
I actually picked him because he is very objective on this matter indeed.
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@Mikal
The word 'justified' on its own is absolutely stupid for this debate.
Even the most psychopathic abuser on the planet can 'justify' their actions (yes, really) this is just a twisted wordgame of semantics and context skewing unless we mean morally justified where I can dismiss his justifications as morally invalid, on balance especially when contrasted with what I did throughout.
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@Wylted
airmax is using tactics of many last-minute-made accounts going to blitz the votes.
If interested in just how many accounts, I have kept relative track but only if they've made a single post or something otherwise I can't. DM me if you are interested, please feel free to invite others to vote. Airmax clearly has no boundaries,
I can show you name by name accounts that have signed up past few days made 1 debate or 1 post and will just vote Airmax.
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airmax is using tactics of many last-minute-made accounts going to blitz the votes.
If interested in just how many accounts, I have kept relative track but only if they've made a single post or something otherwise I can't. DM me if you are interested, please feel free to invite others to vote. Airmax clearly has no boundaries,
I can show you name by name accounts that have signed up past few days made 1 debate or 1 post and will just vote Airmax.
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@airmax1227
To summarise your platform 'moderation? I got a good idea how to do it but won't let it slip. I will get DART popular... Super popular on Twitch and YT BUT ONLY IF I WIN OTHERWISE YOU CAN GO TO HELL'
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