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@ILikePie5
I'm talking about Supa, not Oromagi
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@Vader
@oromagi
Earth is voting 'yes' to a mission with me on it, what does this mean?
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@ILikePie5
Earth is voting yes to a team with me in it, do you know what that means? What was the mission 1's team?
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@ILikePie5
Because Idk how little Supa understands about what the teams actually mean.

He seems to think we are voting who we think the spies are, I think that's why I thought putting me and Earth together was a good plan.
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@ILikePie5
I think if Oro is spy, that Supa has very little idea what sabotage means and how exactly the teams on missions link to outcome.
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@ILikePie5
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@ILikePie5
We do a petition to replace them out then, if just 3 of us and disc agree we are majority and replace them out.

I want to know who to replace out though.
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@ILikePie5
It's both. Why else am I not voting yes?

I don't care if we win, I care that the gamethrower here comes to apologise and realise how wrong they've been.
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@ILikePie5
Idc then turn on me at your own expense, it doesn't bother me at this point.

There is a directly gamethrowing Resistance player (possibly 2) that has to be absolutely handled ASAP and replaced out or taught how to correctly interpret the game.
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@whiteflame
change your vote to no, please.
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What is the wind condition of spies
win condition*
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@Vader
@oromagi
@Discipulus_Didicit
Please answer the following questions or I will formally request Disc to replace you out with Ragnar.

  1. What is the wind condition of spies and Resistance?
  2. How many times can the same spy sabotage a mission they are in?
  3. Can a mission be sabotaged from outside the mission team?
  4. Is there a reason to not want yourself on a mission team, if you are Resistance?
  5. What was objectively wrong with Supadudz's suggested team last Round?
  6. What was objectively wrong with Oromagi voting No to Whiteflame's team last Round?

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@ILikePie5
Nope, this is very sketchy.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I didn't vote no when I said 'voting no', it wasn't in bold anyway.

I am currently abstaining.
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@ILikePie5
There is literally no point in me voting, it would only further justify Oromagi getting trigger happy and voting no.

I will simply let Oro, Supa and Earth ruin it and give us his own team.
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@ILikePie5
There is no way Supa made the team he made as Resistance, Oro is just being a completely dysfunctional player on purpose to wind us up. We make Oromagi himself force this into Supa getting veto, the reason we do this is that I then get veto the next Round.

If Oromagi wants to make us lose the Round after with his veto-power, so be it.
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@Vader
@oromagi
Whichever of you is trolling here as Resistance is seriously pissing me off.

You're just trolling for the hell of it to ruin any enjoyment for the rest of us in the game. It wouldn't surprise me if Oromagi did this, he's like that. If Supa really did this... well I don't wanna use OGI but that's a real shame for this website, not just him, considering rank.

This seriously is a game I regret joining.
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Also I have stopped giving a damn about this game.

Whoever is the Res-troll (or if both are) has ruined any enjoyment for me.
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I actually want to be watched by my government 24/7(clickbait)
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Then you'd lose points (yes, I am certain),

SC favours quiet, obedient people.

If you do a heroic act, you lose score (just less than an active villain would). The people cowering to a robber of a bank score higher than the one who risks his/her life to tackle him down. I know this because I researched how it most likely works.
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A witch, a thang, a yin, a yang, a rational man and a boomerang
This thread is the official campaign thread of RM for president.

You are free to acknowledge a previous thread or such by me but this is my official thread during the campaign period.

Currently, I see a 'witch' (not an insult) posting about a rivalry that the mods are ignoring. Do you know what my main opponent, ilikepie5, would do? He'd say 'freedom of speech' and leave it at that. Though, in another reply to Oromagi, he's shown to understand the importance of stopping harassment so perhaps he'd do the same as me and push the mods to respect the boundary.

As somebody who both personally and, by observing others, has both felt and seen the impacts of harassment, I would use any sway I had as president to push the mods to respect and notice interactions that drive people off of the website or alternatively drive them to act more hostile.

There is this idea that 'special snowflakes' should just suck it up and toughen up but this is a website we use to pass the time with many intellectuals on it who have unique sensitivities and often were bullied IRL and teased for their odd ways. It's not an ordinary person who comes to a debate website, that just isn't the niche market this goes for.

What you want in a president is a guy who has been pushed by trolls in the past to act hostile, first hand, that will completely defend and understand you every step of the way.

If you block me, I can't do that and as I won't be an official mod I doubt anything physically on my account will stop the block function from working (I wouldn't want that anyway, there's some I'd rather keep blocked but when/if they need my defense or counsel as president I'd unblock).

Consider this thread itself as an official thread where if you need my counsel and are blocked, you can post to it and I will unblock you.

The president isn't just for moderating issues, they're also here for fun. I will work with the active debaters, who sporadically show up because they're scared of losing rating, and set up unranked judge debate tournaments like has been done once before. I'd be happy for any suggestions on this, it will be official and put you down in the site's history books if you win and also will be a great thing to mention if you run for President next term, even as a judge.

I am not certain of the term length of a president on this website, is it 6 months or a year? Either way, I'm a user who no matter how busy IRL shows up every week at least, or definitely every 2. I won't flake, I will stick it out because that's how I roll. I will defend this website, make it entertaining and a pleasure for a variety of eccentric users who love debating to coexist peacefully.

Defend, Entertain and Unite

This is my motto.

Yours sincerely,
~Vote RM~
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the spy should have made mission 2 succeed
If a spy was on it*

I realise this sounds sketchy but I don't always go OCD on writing out logic when I feel it's implicit/obvious, I realise after I post it though.
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@whiteflame
 what I as a Spy would do if I was on the team in Mission 2. 
When I said you were wrong and the spy would sab, the gap between Earth and me in tells wasn't as strong.

You are right, the spy should have made mission 2 succeed because I was res-read by many and it would be a serious debate/risk.
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Inflation Hits a 39 Year High
Well done, you reduced inflation by being a bad president in every other way in exchange. Opportunity cost? Worth...
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@ILikePie5
No, I need this hell to end.

I think whiteflame has outplayed us both and that supa and oro are absolute trolls, that's my genuine theory at this point.
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Earth/RM - Doesn’t make sense at all. Why wouldn’t Earth want partner RM on a team at beginning.

Earth/Pie -  Doesn’t make sense for same reason above

Earth/Oro - Conceivable 
Earth/Supa - Conceivable (probably most likely)

Earth/WF - Doesn’t make sense based on Earth voting behavior. Rejected all missions with WF on it. (you mean the only time he could, as in the first?) Plus WF could easily play Spy card and blame Pie/RM (how could he 'easily' do so?)

***RM doesn’t make sense as Spy based on R1 interactions between Pie and Earth. Earth slips multiple times with the most profound being my questioning of who he believes is Spy out of Supa/Oro. He says he doesn’t know but believes Pie/RM is the team. Those two beliefs don’t work. Earth’s voting behavior doesn’t make sense either. Everyone 

RM/Pie - Doesn’t make sense based on italics above. Also the fact that there was no reason for RM to reject Oro+Pie+WF and leave floor open to more debate on pairs. 

RM/Oro - Doesnt make sense for Oro to vote No on Pie+WF+RM because RM is already sus and it’s a free Spy card.

RM/Supa - Doesn’t make sense based on R2. No reason for Supa to vote No on Oro+Pie+RM mission because partner is already sus. Free Spy card.

RM/WF - Doesn’t make sense. Same reason why Earth/WF can’t be a viable team. WF is blatantly Town.

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@ILikePie5
Read what you wrote on the page before, it's not just a typo, it's your entire reasoning.

You thought the team offered by me was WF+you+me.

The only time it was you, me and WF, no voting could take place.

Where did Earth vote against WF other than the first time which could be wifom?
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I never had WF on my team.
suggested team. it is not a slip it is literally just logical to say 'team'.
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@ILikePie5
Oro voted no on Oro+Pie+RM, I never had WF on my team.
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@ILikePie5
I don't always know what 'cringe' feel likes as some cringe compilations on YT don't really make me feel it but I am feeling cringe so hard rn.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I will PM you some severe complaints about this game and lack of enforcement of gamethrowing rules on this website.
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@ILikePie5
Hammer No and stall the announcement of your team, force Oromagi and Supadudz to justify their reasoning and understanding of the situation.
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@ILikePie5
PLEASE HAMMER NO
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WTF
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@Vader
@oromagi
Why are you voting yes?
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Oh I wonder who the spy is.
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Inflation Hits a 39 Year High
The one who went 'lalala' and screamed insults was you.

I insulted Reagan, not you. You don't even understand what happened here but I accept that, it's not about your politics it's about your style of debating. There's a reason you stay out of the formal 1v1 arena on these matters except for 2 rare occasions over several years of using this website.
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 You deserve the shit you live in.
Well, you're someone who believes everyone deserves the shit they live in, so it's a given in your outlook.
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@Earth
@Discipulus_Didicit
RM votes absolutely no
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@ILikePie5
Then if it's same you won't be pro-supa
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@ILikePie5
I have already in this thread and the one before. No further explanation is required.

Will you like to explain to me how Supa suggests that team and acts as useless as he has if he's Resistance?
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@ILikePie5
I will vote no.
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@ILikePie5
I will literally vote no through to Supa getting veto vote if you vote no to Oromagi.
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 Amid all the affection and adulation for Ronald Reagan, one of his greatest achievements is all but overlooked.
Don't glorify a corrupt shitstain on US history then. Plenty of people, me included loathe Reagan and easily put him worse President of all time, Nixon does push past him though for me personally just because Nixon's style of corruption and particular aspects of his right-wing policies are more overtly disturbing for me. He also was worse at being corrupt if that's a thing to take into account.
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WHEN did the ELECTION PROCESS CHANGE?
Idk what exactly this thread is about and need to be careful I don't campaign in a thread that isn't my campaign thread but I will say this:

Blocking somebody and regarding their freedom of speech as invalidated aren't identical especially as I'm not a moderator.

If I block you, it means I don't want you @ing me or bothering me.

It's true that if I also don't like your freedom of speech here, I will block you as well but that's a tiny minority. Considering that I block a fair amount of people, I can conclusively tell you that me blocking you isn't an indication I'd ban you from the website and/or muzzle you.

I do not support the first amendment. I think it is a fallacious amendment and concept for society. I will not pretend to uphold it as a site value.

Talk with a tone of respect to other users outside of consensual disrespect arenas like a rap battle or idk some flame thread (but don't be racist).

I don't really get this idea of people thinking they can be as rude and disrespectful as they want without consequence, it's not even how I was raised alone (I was raised to be more tolerant/passive) it's just a trait I myself have. I don't like disrespect and I sure as fuck don't like any of this racism, sexism, lgbtqphobic bullcrap going on with some users.

Say your view without mocking and degrading. If you have a view that inherently degrades (that a race is superior etc) then please go to a dirty shithole on the Internet and excrete your fecal matter there.
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@ILikePie5
What kind of reasoning is that?

I want to put Oro on the team, I will vote no to all Supa teams. If that results in Supa getting veto power and putting Earth on the team, that's your own issue.
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@oromagi
it's also a lie now.
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@ILikePie5
Why would Oro vote no to the team of you me and him, if he's spy? It was perfect for him.

Why would Oro be voted no by Earth hammering it twice?

He didn't need to sab even, he could slowplay if he feared being caught out.
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@whiteflame
if they both were absolute morons as Res and you actually are the spy here, we really are totally screwed as you can easily frame now but that's absolutely their own incompetence to blame.
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Also I thought it was 

2-3-3-4*-4

Now, I realise that's for 7.

This 2-3-4 means I made a crucial error in voting 'yes' to the second team suggested when I should have played hardball to get myself onto the 3.

Whatever.
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@ILikePie5
WTF do you mean?! Oro didn't, Supa did.

Oro dumbtold, Supa literally used a team guaranteed to fail.
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