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But wasn't it all gods plan?Hadn't it all been prophesised ?Hadn't Jesus prophesised his own death?Didn't he say that all these thing must happen?Wasn't Jesus sent BY GOD HIS FATHER! as a sacrifice to save us from our sins?LOOOOOOOOOOK THICKY 1 John 4:10New International Version10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.Learn your bible you clown, You are beginning to come across like that other dense bible thicko, the Reverend Tradesecret.😂
The gospels were written after Jesus’s death and therefore not prophecies about Jesus’s life.
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Crap, this means his base goes to Trump, probably all 14 of them too.
Hope Trump’s camp doesn’t get hit with a worm contagion.
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@WyIted
Do you have anything to say about his policy ideals?
RFK is just as extreme as Trump. Injecting bleach will help the two candidates.
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A choice between a convicted criminal or a prosecutor faces the American people. Being polite is not an option for anyone.
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If the only choice is to minimize your loss, it is not a total win.
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@Mall
One, do you have anger?Does anything make you angry?Have you ever been depressed?Are you depressed?When ever you become sad, how long does the sadness stay?Do you love yourself?Do you love all people?Do you have pride or are you proud of your so called race/ethnicity?Is multiculturalism more harm than good?Is diversity negative?Bonus:What are some controversial things you wish to engage in?
Helping people overcome their limitations.
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Donald J. Trump made $300k from selling bibles - But he also owes more than $100m (£91m) in liabilities from three lawsuits he has lost, according to new financial disclosure forms released on Thursday.
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@FLRW
WA mayor suggests Trump faked own assassination attempt: ‘We will never know if it was staged’
Trump said people who get shot for their service to their country are suckers and losers. But now he has joined that group of people.
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@drlebronski
Poor grades do not mean that you are “not smart”, and for similar reasons, having a high IQ does not mean that you “are smart”. Being smart can assist you in getting good grades, but it’s not as simple as that.Your grades do not reflect your intelligence.You can be the most intelligent person in the world and still fail a test.Furthermore emotion plays a very big role in how you do on tests or exams.If you are depressed or someone you know died you are probably going to get a worse grade this doesn't make you stupid.
Poor grades suggests poor comprehension. It doesn’t make you stupid, it makes you ignorant.
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@Best.Korea
In debating, I guess its important to keep paragraphs short and using only the best arguments per specific paragraph.There were many times when I went on rambling and wasting precious character space on less important points.But it’s less important in forums where there is no exact character space limit, so it goes wild.
Story writing is different from debating.
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The rich don’t pay their fair share of taxes. Trump cheats on his tax filings. He is a good example.
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America has reached its lowest point. To believe a convicted felon charged with 34 felony counts can make America great again if Trump is re-elected it an act of desperation.
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According to Tradesecret Ethang5 lives in Africa.Tradesecret: He holds quite different theological positions to me on a variety of subjects. I am also of the view that he lives in Africa. Well if you can believe anyone's profile.Slavery is still practiced in Africa. Is it because 70% of Africans claim they are Christians?Harikrish makes a convincing case the Biblical Curse of Ham justified black slavery.
Where is Ethang today?
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Chinese practice ancestor worship. They would not eat monkey brains if they thought monkeys were their ancestors.
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Still relevant today.
Guided by the Holy Spirit the first church which is the Roman Catholic Church was built. Today we have 30, 000 denominations of Christians. Most of them are in opposition to the teachings of the Catholic Church which was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Christians say Jesus was without sin and therefore the perfect human sacrifice. But scriptures paint a very different story.
Scriptures show Jesus broke all the 10 commandments. These ironies exist in the Bible.
The 10 commandments say.
1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2. You shall not make idols.
3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
4. Remember the Sabbath day, To keep it holy.
5. Honour your father and your mother.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10. You shall not covet.
Jesus broke many of the commandments, If not all!
1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
Jesus tried to claim he was God.
John 10:33 "We are not stoning You for any good work, " said the Jews, "but for blasphemy, Because You, Who are a man, Declare Yourself to be God. "
2. You shall not make idols.
Jesus made a covenant with a cup.
Luke 22:20 In the same way, After supper He took the cup, Saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, Which is poured out for you.
3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Jesus said every word he spoke came from God. Unless God too was as incoherent as Jesus. God in the OT never spoke in parables. His orders were clear and direct.
Luke 18:34 But the disciples did not understand any of these things. The meaning was hidden from them, And they did not comprehend what He was saying.
4. Remember the Sabbath day, To keep it holy.
Jesus broke the sabbath.
Pharisees accused Him of breaking the Sabbath (Matthew 12:10; Mark 3:2, John 9:14-16).
5. Honour your father and your mother.
Jesus tried to destroy the traditional family.
Matthew 10:35 For I have come to turn ""a man against his father, A daughter against her mother, A daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law"
6. You shall not murder.
Jesus murdered the truth.
Matthew 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. "
Yet he spent his entire ministry condemning the very people he was sent to save.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
Jesus was unfaithful to God and his disciples. He left them to die even though he was given all authority over heaven and earth.
Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.
8. You shall not steal.
Jesus stole the words of the prophets before him and claimed they pointed to him.
Luke 24:27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, He explained to them what was written in all the Scriptures about Himself.
Then Jesus took them through the writings of Moses and all the prophets, Explaining from all the Scriptures. . . And Jesus explained to them what was said about himself in all the Scriptures, Beginning with the books of Moses and the writings of all the prophets".
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
Jesus accused God of betraying and forsaking him on the cross.
Matthew 27:46 About the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, Lema sabachthani? " which means, "My God, My God, Why have you forsaken Me? "
10. You shall not covet.
Jesus suffered from a messiah complex and coveted the title messiah/Christ/Anointed one.
John 17:1 After Jesus said this, He looked toward heaven and prayed:
"Father, The hour has come. Glorify your Son, That your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, The only true God, And Jesus Christ, Whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, Glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
Scriptures tell us Jesus was tried, Convicted and crucified for his blasphemous lies and lunacy. . . . By the Romans. But the confusion continues.
Christians have waited for 2000 years for Jesus's return as he had promised without any success.
Preterists claims Christisns got it wrong, That Jesus returned in 70 AD.
Jehovah's Witnesses claim Jesus returned in 1874 or maybe 1914.
Others say Jesus could be the next thief who robs your house.
Revelation 16:15, Matthew 24:43, 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 1 Thessalonians 5:4, 2 Peter 3:10 ESV - ("Behold, I am coming like a thief in the night! )
Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.
Jesus never said he was good.
Mark 10:18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.
Ephesians 2:8-10
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith — and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God
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Owning bibles and negro slaves have been tried for several hundred years by western countries. But the end result was not what was expected. Study reveals by 2030 the majority of Christians will be Africans. So slavery will shift back to the African continent where the slaves originated from.
Americans will no longer be able to read books about slavery or teach it in their schools.
Texas recently tried to ban the Bible from its school libraries. Preachers will be imported in the future.
Be prepared to hear black preachers preach about slavery and own slaves. Irony of ironies.
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Harikrish if Jesus was an atheist, what does it make the Christians who idol worship him?
From the Scriptures and the actions and words of Jesus we can conclude Jesus was an Atheist.Atheist definition: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.Jesus mocked the religious leaders of his time. He called them vipers and scums just like Atheist mocked the believers today.Matthew 23:33 "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?Jesus called his body a temple and drove people out of the real temple of worship.John 2:19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."Matthew 21:12 Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.Jesus claimed he had all authority over his alien Kingdom and earth. Yet he stood idly by as the Romans destroyed the holy city and sanctuary.He believed anybody who ate his flesh and drank his blood would have eternal life. Who needs a God if Jewish meat is kosher and gets you eternal life in the hereafter.John 6:54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.Jesus said he was from an alien world.John 8:23 I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.John 18:36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place."Jesus was despised like most atheists were during his time. He comforted them.Isaiah 53:3 He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.Luke 6:22 Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man.Jesus on the cross mocked the God of the Bible.Matthew 27:46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?").Were those last words of Jesus that motivated the Pope to declare Jesus was a failure of the cross?Pope declared:"And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross."Jesus called God his father throughout his life. By doing this he reduced God to a rapist and the cause of his illegitimate bastard status.He even blamed God for his alcoholism like God willed him to drink the water he turned into alcohol.Matthew 26:39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."He was not directing people to God, he was forcing believers to chose between family or him.Matthew 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.35 For I have come to turn ""a man against his father, a daughter against her mother,a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law"36 a man"s enemies will be the members of his own household."[c]37 "Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.But if Jesus was an atheist as scriptures suggests who went against the religious leaders of his time by denouncing their beliefs. Then why do Christians worship an atheist Jesus?By worshipping the atheist Jesus they believe they are turning him into God by their exhaltation.If the Pope did not remind Christians that Jesus was a failure of the cross we would be swamped by Christians on DDO. But we find DDO is full of happy atheists who take delight in the fact that Jesus was an atheist......Harikrish.
Harikrish, does that mean atheists are saved too?
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God did not fail. It is the Jews that failed God. And because of their broken covenant with God they will be separated from their penis at death.
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Jesus would have been appalled that a whole new religion had sprung up in his name and overseen by false Pastors and Priest as it was in his own day.
Jesus was appalled the Jews he was sent to save rejected him and even asked that he be crucified. But because God had made a covenant with the Jews that their circumcised penis would be save. A broken covenant would mean separating the Jewish penis from the rest of the body at death. That is why unlike Muslims Jews are not promised any virgins in paradise. They have no use for them.
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@ebuc
2a } Outer Gravity { contractive }( ) > Observed-[physical reality-Time { OT } < )( Inner Dark Energy { expansive }planar birds-eye-view,....................(>(<(<o>)>)<)..............planar birds-eye-view or as (>(<(<( )>)>)<)This is the Cosmic primary stage to grok our non-creator God/Universe More specifics to come.( )( ) = geodesic lines of relationship { LoR } that define the toroidal Quantum Space Tube><>< = lesser geodesic LoR, that connect outer and inner nodal events to our OT, inside-the-tube, resulting in a sine-wave associated OT existence ^v^v^v^v* i * = bilateral consciousness with access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego ................(>(<(<( * i * )>)>)<)............More to come....................................(>(<(<( * i * )>)>)<)..................including cosmic structural and systemic integrity..................................................6 planar, occupied space circles...............................................
All driven by the Trinity.
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Whites are nationalist, white supremacist and the ideology is very Christian.
Name a white country of significance that did not promote a sense of Nationalist White Supremacy.European countries that sought to colonize the world.1. Rome (Roman Empire)2. France. (French colonization)3. Britain. (British Empire)4. Spain and Portugal. (Colonization )5. Hitlers Germany. (Aryan race dominance)6. American exceptionalism (American superpower)7. Australian penal colony8. Russia Stalin9. World war 1 & 2. World dominance.10. White Christian crusades.Whites are genetically nationalistic and white supremacists obsessed.
Whites are nationalist, white supremacist and the ideology is very Christian, but the trend is changing.
Depending on who you believe, religion, particularly Christianity, is sweeping the world. Evidence of this exists in the fact that in Africa, approximately 50 million people became Christians in 2018, making Africa the continent in which the largest number of Christians, 631 million of them, reside.
Meanwhile, the story is completely different in the US. Here, we are witnessing a steady decline in religion, especially Christianity, and a steady rise in secularism. Is Christianity, one of the oldest religions in the world, an idea whose time has come and gone in the West?
Startling US Statistics
While Christianity has been the stronghold religion of the West during the past 400 years, its growth today is centered in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. Since 1991, the number of white Protestants in the US has declined by over one-third. And today, although 20% of Americans are age 18–34, only 10% of them are members of white Protestant congregations. Fewer than 50% of US Protestant churches boast a congregation of 100 members or more. Many have closed, and more closures seem inevitable.
The growth in US Christianity, whether Catholic, Protestant, mainline, or evangelical, has been in the Hispanic community. In the past 50 years, a full 71% of new Catholics have been Hispanic. For the Assemblies of God, white membership has declined somewhat while nonwhite membership has increased by 43% during the past decade. Multiracial congregations likewise are growing, today claiming one in five churchgoing Americans.
Meanwhile, the story is completely different in the US. Here, we are witnessing a steady decline in religion, especially Christianity, and a steady rise in secularism. Is Christianity, one of the oldest religions in the world, an idea whose time has come and gone in the West?
Startling US Statistics
While Christianity has been the stronghold religion of the West during the past 400 years, its growth today is centered in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. Since 1991, the number of white Protestants in the US has declined by over one-third. And today, although 20% of Americans are age 18–34, only 10% of them are members of white Protestant congregations. Fewer than 50% of US Protestant churches boast a congregation of 100 members or more. Many have closed, and more closures seem inevitable.
The growth in US Christianity, whether Catholic, Protestant, mainline, or evangelical, has been in the Hispanic community. In the past 50 years, a full 71% of new Catholics have been Hispanic. For the Assemblies of God, white membership has declined somewhat while nonwhite membership has increased by 43% during the past decade. Multiracial congregations likewise are growing, today claiming one in five churchgoing Americans.
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Is Christianity failing?
Depending on who you believe, religion, particularly Christianity, is sweeping the world. Evidence of this exists in the fact that in Africa, approximately 50 million people became Christians in 2018, making Africa the continent in which the largest number of Christians, 631 million of them, reside.
Meanwhile, the story is completely different in the US. Here, we are witnessing a steady decline in religion, especially Christianity, and a steady rise in secularism. Is Christianity, one of the oldest religions in the world, an idea whose time has come and gone in the West?
While Christianity has been the stronghold religion of the West during the past 400 years, its growth today is centered in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. Since 1991, the number of white Protestants in the US has declined by over one-third. And today, although 20% of Americans are age 18–34, only 10% of them are members of white Protestant congregations. Fewer than 50% of US Protestant churches boast a congregation of 100 members or more. Many have closed, and more closures seem inevitable.
The growth in US Christianity, whether Catholic, Protestant, mainline, or evangelical, has been in the Hispanic community. In the past 50 years, a full 71% of new Catholics have been Hispanic. For the Assemblies of God, white membership has declined somewhat while nonwhite membership has increased by 43% during the past decade. Multiracial congregations likewise are growing, today claiming one in five churchgoing Americans.
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@Tradesecret
Of course, it is one of the hallmarks of Christianity. It has absolutely to do with Jesus.I said one of the hallmarks of the genuine Christian church is the Trinity. Trinity, is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Without Jesus there would be no Trinity. Without Jesus there would be no Christianity either. So Jesus is the hallmark of Christianity.
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What does Jesus say about Jews in the Bible?
What does Jesus say about the Jews in the New Testament?
In several places, John's gospel also associates "the Jews" with darkness and with the devil. In John 8:37-39; 44–47, Jesus says, speaking to a group of Pharisees: I know that you are descendants of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me, because my word finds no place in you.
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The reason the Jews reject Jesus.
1. Judaism affirms that Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies by ushering in an era of universal peace (Isaiah 2:4), building the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26–28), and gathering all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5–6).
2. Judaism deems the worship of any person a form of idolatry, rejecting the claims that Jesus was divine, an intermediary to God, or part of a Trinity.
3. Jews believe the Messiah will be a direct (blood) descendant of King David through Solomon on his father's side and will be born naturally to a husband and wife (Genesis 49:10, Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, 33:17; Ezekiel 34:23–24).
4. The whole Christology of the Church - the whole complex of doctrines about the Son of God who died on the Cross to save humanity from sin and death - is incompatible with Judaism, and indeed in discontinuity with the Hebraism that preceded it."
5. "Aside from its belief in Jesus as the Messiah, Christianity has altered many of the most fundamental concepts of Judaism." (Kaplan, Aryeh)
6. "...the doctrine of Christ was and is alien to Jewish religious thought."
7. "For two thousand years, Jews rejected the claim that Jesus fulfilled the messianic prophecies of the Hebrew Bible, as well as the dogmatic claims about him made by the church fathers - that he was born of a virgin, the son of God, part of a divine Trinity, and was resurrected after his death. ... For two thousand years, a central wish of Christianity was to be the object of desire by Jews, whose conversion would demonstrate their acceptance that Jesus has fulfilled their biblical prophecies."
But they believe through circumcision they have established a covenant with God. So did Jesus who was also circumcised.
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That is not just an opinion. That advice by Harikrish to be likeable could have stopped so much suffering is not found in the Bible. That is why the bible didn't work for the Jews.Jesus never taught Christians to be likeable either.Instead Jesus taught his followers (Christians) to1. Matthew 10:35 For I have come to turn 'A man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. - Bible Hub2. To hate ones life.John 12:25 KJV: He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.
Bring Harikrish back so we can all be likeable again.
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@zedvictor4
For sure, that's how society works.But I'm not sure that we were discussing motoring related rules.
The endless punishment of the Jews by God.
609 BC (Judah falls to Egypt) + 2556 (solar years) = 1948 AD
604/5 BC (first exiles taken to Babylon) + 2520 + 1 (no 0 BC) = 1917 AD Balfour Declaration
606 BC + 2484 = 1878 AD Petra Tivka, first modern settlement of Jews in Palestine
602 BC (visions of Daniel Prophecy, second deportation of Jews) + 2484 = 1882 AD First Aliyah
587 BC (destruction of temple) + 2484 = 1897 AD Zionist Movement Established
587 BC (destruction of temple) + 2520 = 1933 AD Holocaust begins
572 BC (Ezekiel’s Visions of Third Temple) + 2520 = 1948
537 BC (Jewish Return and Decree to Rebuild) + 2484 (lunar 7 times) + 1 = 1948 AD, Modern Israel Nation Established
518 BC (2nd Temple Reconstruction + 2484 + 1 = 1967 AD Six Day War, Gentile Rule Ends
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@rosends
You keep saying the same things over and over. Your statements are disconnected and illogical. Jews have been protected by God which is why we are still here. And am I only here because of American weapons? Only in the sense that my next door neighbor (not Jewish) is only here because of American weapons. You make no sense.Your programming isn't good.
How many times did God punish Israel in the Bible?
However, in Leviticus 26, God uses the phrase to refer to duration, not intensity of punishment. God says He will punish Israel for a length of seven times. Understanding this, we can easily calculate when God completed His punishment of Israel, when He stopped withholding His fulfillment of the promises.
The persecution of Jews has been a major event in Jewish history prompting shifting waves of refugees and the formation of diaspora communities. As early as 605 BCE, Jews who lived in the Neo-Babylonian Empire were persecuted and deported. Antisemitism was also practiced by the governments of many different empires (Roman Empire) and the adherents of many different religions (Christianity), and it was also widespread in many different regions of the world (Middle East and Islamic).
Jews were commonly used as scapegoats, for tragedies and disasters such as in the Black Death Persecutions, the 1066 Granada massacre, the Massacre of 1391 in Spain, the many Pogroms in the Russian Empire, and the tenets of Nazism prior to and during World War II, which led to The Holocaust and the murder of six million Jews.
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No doubt we will see a return when someone walks along and in is kind enough to pick up his toys and put the back in the pram.
Are you trying to speak in tongues?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
BRING CASH .Now I dont know a great deal about the christian religion, but one thing is for certain.....JESUS FUCKING LOVESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS CASH.So ummm, Yeah . Thats all.' kicks dirt 'And have a wonderful day guys .
Matthew 4:4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”
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@Benjamin
Many fundamentalist Christians have opinions that directly contradict what Jesus said:
- Guns for self defence, when Jesus said to turn the other cheek, and told Peter not to raise his sword
- Deporting immigrants, maltreating the poor and homeless, and letting prisoners rot like animals --- when Jesus said to treat these specific groups better
- Dickriding capitalists like Elon Musk and supporting low taxes for the rich, when Jesus said the rich man getting to heaven is very unlikely, and that resources should go to the poor
The wealthy Christians don’t want to end up like Jesus a poor unemployed wanderer. They don’t want to give up their wealth either. Like Trump they believe being wealthy is a success story.
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@Tradesecret
It stands to reason, that people who don't agree with the Trinity, would argue against this teaching. But that doesn't make them right. And currently it does make them wrong. Until the Church decides otherwise, this is one of the hallmarks of a genuine Christian church.
The hallmark of Christianity is Jesus.
John 14:6
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me
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What do you mean by "entry point"?
The Aliens chose the Jews as their entry point because the Jews are the most gullible race?
Entry point means the point of entry of Aliens into human affairs.
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How many god days did it take to create the world and all that is in it?How many god days was Jonah in the belly of a fish?How many god days was Jesus in the tomb?
1. 6 days.
2. 3 days
3. 3 days.
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@ebuc
We begin with a conceptual, 2D planar view of #1, then #4 primary sets of outer, then inner meta{beyond}physical occupied space existence:Then move on to include two conceptual, 2D planar circles as the Observed-physical reality-Time{ OT } that exists between the outer and inner set.1 } ..outer peak positive curvature circle of graviational nodal event...( ).......outer peak of Gravity set of nodal events { planar birds-eye view }4 } .inner peak negative curvature circle of Dark Energy nodal events..( o )..inner peak of Dark Energy { planar view }>equals bisection/cross-section of Space { time }torus..........................( o ).........no Observed-physical reality-Time { OT } exists1a }...top circle of....Observed-physical reality-Time{ OT }......................( ( o ) )...........planar birds-eye-view2a } bottom circle of Observed-physical reality-Time{ OT }....................( (( o )) )....planar birds-eye-viewThis is the primary stage to grok our non-creator God/Universe. More specifics to come.
The Trinity makes more sense.
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Here is what Jesus called the religious leaders of the Jews.
Matthew 23
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"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
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And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
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So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
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Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
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"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
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Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
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And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
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I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
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"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
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@rosends
That's funny. It just confirms what I said. I do enjoy the claim of "replaced" because it ignores that Jews are still here, I replaced.
Where is Judaism today numbering 14 million when Christianity has grown to 2.3 billion and Islam to 1.9 billion?
If the Jews were loyal to their God, why didn’t their God preserve them from their neighbours? Was it because the Jews only observed dietary restrictions and circumcision that left them helpless. Today they rely on American weapons which is why they are still around.
The Arabs own land 400 times the size of Israel. They control 2/3 the world’s oil reserves. There are 1.9 billion Muslims compared to 14 million Jews. God blessed the descendants of Ishmael who was circumcised and punished the Jews throughout their history.
Genesis 17:20
And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation.
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Americans don’t want African blacks to dominate in Christianity. Americas history of black slavery would be a contradiction.
Let us see your evidence for that ridiculous claim.
if Africa turns out the largest Christian countries overtaking America. America will be hard pressed to explain why they enslaved blacks and treated them as inferior.
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@rosends
Jesus has everything to do with Judaism becoming a shrinking religion by making Christianity a replacement.
Jesus has nothing to do with Judaism. The invention of Christianity has had an effect on Judaism's continued existence and, to a small degree, on Judaism, itself as a religion. Is there anything you actually DO know bot?
Jesus condemned the Jewish religious leaders and said they had invalidated the word of God with their traditions. Christianism replaced Judaism as Jesus proved the Jewish religion was no longer the path.
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@rosends
so, still not reading, still repeating the same paragraphs and now you added another irrelevance -- " The Jews had a lot to do with Jesus. "My statement was that Jesus has nothing to do with Judaism.
Jesus has everything to do with Judaism becoming a shrinking religion by making Christianity a replacement.
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That might explain why America is staying out of Africa and more involved in Ukraine and Israel. It wants to preserve the Christian population in America and maintain its status as the leading Christian country.
No. It explains no such thing.It proves that the Western Governments and media are ignoring the plight of African Christians that are being slaughtered in their hundreds of thousands by Islamists but are scared shitless to even mention the attempted eradication of Christianity. This goes further than simply "turning a blind eye".
Americans don’t want African blacks to dominate in Christianity. Americas history of black slavery would be a contradiction.
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The word trinity itself is neither Christian nor biblical..
Do all Christian denominations believe in the Trinity.
Although the Trinitarian view became the orthodox doctrine in mainstream Christianity, variations of the nontrinitarian view are still held by a relatively small number of Christian groups and denominations. . Various views exist regarding the relationships between the Father, Son, and Holy
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@Deb-8-a-bull
It almost sounds like this jesus bloke got tricked into believing he was like the real son of a the god thing.Poor guy.I can think of other names " the apostles "The dirty dozen.Tricksters.MS 13.The Jewish Jokers.Jew idiots.The foreskinlesseses.I bet jesus belived he wouldn't die.Well up until that last sentence.My apostles have forsaken me.I mean god. God, 4 bloody sooked him.But he did die.Ill tell ya what......Id have a big bunch of interletual,inter lecture proof.that jesus isn't real iffffffffffff.But Thats only Muther fuck8ng IFFFFFFFF.If God DIDN'T.do the little book book thing that he did for you guys.So Um YeahYa got reallllll fucking lucky.
From your post it is obvious you are struggling to post the truth.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Did i mention i once beat a cat with a stick ?
You just updated your resume…cat beater.
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@rosends
Not true!!!
Judaism shaped Jesus. Jesus was a Jew who followed Judaism. He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends, associates, colleagues, disciples, all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogues. He preached from Jewish text, from the Bible.
you don't read well, do you. You are explaining that Judaism had a lot to do with Jesus. That may be but who cares?I said that Jesus was nothing to do with Judaism. Stay focused.
Not true! The Jews had a lot to do with Jesus. They wanted him crucified.
Luke 23:21 But they kept shouting, “Crucify him! Crucify him!”
The Jews, God's chosen people, believed that a Messiah would come to save them. The land of Palestine was ruled by the Romans, and many Jews expected the Messiah to be a military figure who would fight the Romans and drive them out. Other Jews were expecting a prophet like Moses. In short like your typical Jew Jesus was not likeable.
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@Mall
Nothing in there says three persons or entities or a spirit is a thing.
It is called the Trinity.
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@n8nrgim
If God punishes sinners, they say God is bad. If God doesn't punish sinners, they say God is bad.I see these impossible standards all over the place when it comes to religion.
All the religions in the world say God is good. It is humans who fall short and God is there to save them. It is not impossible because the majority of the world believe in religion and God.
Christianity 2.365 billion 30.74%
Islam 1.907 billion 24.9%
Secular[a]/Nonreligious[b]/Agnostic/Atheist 1.193 billion 15.58%
Hinduism 1.152 billion 15.1%
Buddhism 506 million 6.6%
Chinese traditional religion[c] 394 million 5.6%
Ethnic religions excluding some in separate categories 300 million 3%
African traditional religions 100 million 1.2%
Esoteric Religions 50 million 0.31%
Sikhism 26 million 0.30%
Mormonism 17 million 0.2%
Spiritism 15 million 0.2%
Judaism 14.7 million 0.2%
Islam 1.907 billion 24.9%
Secular[a]/Nonreligious[b]/Agnostic/Atheist 1.193 billion 15.58%
Hinduism 1.152 billion 15.1%
Buddhism 506 million 6.6%
Chinese traditional religion[c] 394 million 5.6%
Ethnic religions excluding some in separate categories 300 million 3%
African traditional religions 100 million 1.2%
Esoteric Religions 50 million 0.31%
Sikhism 26 million 0.30%
Mormonism 17 million 0.2%
Spiritism 15 million 0.2%
Judaism 14.7 million 0.2%
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@rosends
who cares. Jesus has nothing to do with Judaism.
Not true!!!
Judaism shaped Jesus. Jesus was a Jew who followed Judaism. He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends, associates, colleagues, disciples, all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogues. He preached from Jewish text, from the Bible.
This explains why Jesus like the Jews before him were never liked and antisemitism prevailed. There was no commandment that told Jews to be likeable. And Jesus himself declared.
Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Jesus too was limited by the laws so he could not add a new law to tell the Jews to be likeable.
Deuteronomy 4:2 “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.”
With 3000 years of persecution, expulsion and antisemitism, one would think a commandment to be 'likeable' might have help Jews overcome the burden of 613 commandments that still left them undeserving of proper recognition throughout their history.
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There are already more Christians in Africa than any other continent—that’s not going to change soon.
Don't kid yourself. Muslims are butchering African Christians by the thousands daily (over 60.000 in Nigeria alone) while the Western world ignores it and argues instead whether if a woman can have a pair of bollocks.
That might explain why America is staying out of Africa and more involved in Ukraine and Israel. It wants to preserve the Christian population in America and maintain its status as the leading Christian country.
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@rosends
Would adding that same commandment to be likeable have saved Jesus who was a Jew and stopped at the 613 commandments? Why didn't Jesus add the commandment to be likeable himself?
who cares. Jesus has nothing to do with Judaism.
Judaism shaped Jesus. Jesus was a Jew who followed Judaism. He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends, associates, colleagues, disciples, all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogues. He preached from Jewish text, from the Bible.
This explains why Jesus like the Jews before him were never liked and antisemitism prevailed. There was no commandment that told Jews to be likeable. And Jesus himself declared.
Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Jesus too was limited by the laws so he could not add a new law to tell the Jews to be likeable.
Deuteronomy 4:2 “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.”
With 3000 years of persecution, expulsion and antisemitism, one would think a commandment to be 'likeable' might have help Jews overcome the burden of 613 commandments that still left them undeserving of proper recognition throughout their history.
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