Shila

--> @Shila

How do you account for the flat earth believers on DebateArt, are they Catholics?

What? I never said all flat-earthers are Catholic. I said the Catholic Church strongly promulgated the flat earth myth and censored other viewpoints.

That is totally different than saying all flat-earthers alive today are Catholic.

What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge? 

Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.

 You may want to place Mary Magdelana attending the event, but she is never recorded as being a disciple and, it is said, that she and a few other women stood and to have " watched from afar". 

It is as you insist, "the bible should be taken literally at all times".

You even accept the disciples watch the crucifixion from a distance.

Nope. Learn to read. I clearly wrote:

Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.#339

 The verse you offer simply states "some people" not disciples which indicates simply people on a family day out at the crucifixion. And further John appears contradict both Luke and mark.  That is one for you Christians, to get over.

And you have failed to answer this question tree time>>  "What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge"? 

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Shila, the biblical fool that is to SCARED to discuss Jesus' true modus operandi as Yahweh God incarnate within the Bible,

YOUR CONTINUED BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE IN POST #336: "Your MO of Jesus is nothing like the Historical Jesus based on the Bible or historical sources Shila used to build the case of the Historical Jesus."

Wrong, bible ignorant fool!  I have asked you many time if you are not too SCARED to discuss Jesus' true MO within the scriptures, but you have ran away like a little school girl from doing so, just likeMiss Tradesecret does to biblical axioms at her embarrassing expense as shown herewith: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8105/post-links/353895

This is the last time in front of the membership, that will be on record in the future and used against you anyway, are you ready to discuss Jesus with the attributes that I have shown Him to be, shown below, or not?   As usual, Miss Tradesecret would RUN, therefore, are you going to be like her as well? Huh?

Our Jesus we worship, as the Serial Killer Yahweh God incarnate, was embarrassingly, greedy, jealous, selfish, self-centered, petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capricious, and malevolent!

Shila, are you also SCARED that in true discussion of Jesus' MO with me, that it will derail your entire misguided thread of Jesus' true historical presence and that is why you are running away from this discussion?

--> @Shila

What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge? 

Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.

 You may want to place Mary Magdelana attending the event, but she is never recorded as being a disciple and, it is said, that she and a few other women stood and to have " watched from afar". 

It is as you insist, "the bible should be taken literally at all times".

You even accept the disciples watch the crucifixion from a distance.

Nope. Learn to read. I clearly wrote:

Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.#339

And you have failed to answer this question tree time>>  "What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge"? 

YOUR QUOTE OF REVELATION: "Matthews 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

You are correct, besides Jesus being the King of the Jews as well! (Matthew 27:11) Therefore, which Hebrew sect to you belong too?  Don't be SCARED again dear, just simply answer the question, understood?

Thanking you in advance.

YOUR QUOTE IN POST #135 : "How can Shila be both dumbfounded of the Bible as well as biblically correct? You need to get a proper education before  you can engage in intelligent discussions."

To answer your statement, even the most biblically stupid of the Bible like you get to first base some times, but in your case, go no further.

YOUR QUOTE OF REVELATION: "Matthews 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

You are correct, besides Jesus being the King of the Jews as well! (Matthew 27:11) Therefore, which Hebrew sect to you belong too?  Don't be SCARED again dear, just simply answer the question, understood?

You have RAN AWAY again pertaining to said post in not telling the membership in what HEBREW sect you follow, since you agree that Matthews 15:24 is true!

Your answer is:

HELLO SHILA BIBLE FOOL!  I am NOT blaspheming Jesus because I have described Jesus' true historical modus operandi within the scriptures in Jesus being Yahweh God incarnate, of which you are obviously unaware of because of your complete Bible stupidity!  Now, once again, are you ready to discuss the aforementioned TRUE statements relative to Jesus, or are you going to run away from them and go into hiding,  just like the equally Bible ignorant Tradesecret continually does? 

Again, remember dear, this thread is about the "Historical Jesus," therefore the MO of Jesus as I have shown above is pertinent to your ungodly thread!

Your MO of Jesus is nothing like the Historical Jesus based on the Bible or historical sources Shila used to build the case of the Historical Jesus.

Waiting for your response!

--> @Shila

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Shila, the most dumbfounded of the Bible hell bound woman,

YOUR QUOTE OF REVELATION: "Matthews 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

You are correct, besides Jesus being the King of the Jews as well! (Matthew 27:11) Therefore, which Hebrew sect to you belong too?  Don't be SCARED again dear, just simply answer the question, understood?

Thanking you in advance.

Stephen: Nope there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus died on the cross. He could well have simply fell into unconsciousness after such a brutal beating, then having to walk a third of a mile to the location of the crucifixion and then agony of being nailed to some wood.  I am sure I would pass out.

--> @Stephen

It doesn't take too much to get you frustrated does it Stephen, you little stalker you?

Mark 15:45 gives evidence by a Roman Centurion that Jesus was dead.  That this evidence was satisfactory to Pilate enabled him to permit the body to be removed and given to Joseph of Arimathea. 

John 19:32 also gives evidence by Roman Soldiers that when they came to Jesus he was already dead, so they did not break his legs.  Instead one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear - bringing a sudden flow of blood and water.  This was evidence that Jesus was dead. 

The scriptures testify that Jesus died.  There is sufficient evidence of this. To say there is none is nonsense. And the ravings of a man not willing to accept anything. 

Of course it satyrical, just like Brother D Thomas. 

Except the Brother comes from south Kentucky.

Jesus did indeed die. Jesus was crucified and the Gospels record his last breath.

Nope there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus died on the cross. He could well have simply fell into unconsciousness after such a brutal beating, then having to walk a third of a mile to the location of the crucifixion and then agony of being nailed to some wood.  I am sure I would pass out.

What is it that the bible records Jesus being offered on a sponge? 

Not a single one of the 12 disciples is recorded as standing at the foot of the cross to watch Jesus die.

 You may want to place Mary Magdelana attending the event, but she is never recorded as being a disciple and, it is said, that she and a few other women stood and to have " watched from afar". 

It is as you insist, "the bible should be taken literally at all times".

There are more atheist members who now believe Jesus existed than we had before Shila built the case for the Historical Jesus.

There have always been atheists that believe as I do in the possibility that a biblical character named Jesus existed and well before you were even born. But I will often admit that I cannot prove it.   So, it has nothing to do with you "building a case".  So stop getting ahead of yourself because you have proven nothing.

--> @Shila

For sure.

So can you confirm that you are indeed a Female, French Canadian Catholic of the species Homo sapiens.

--> @Shila

Before that it was logical to assume the earth was flat.

I think you completely missed my point. The point was that the "earth being flat" idea was not widely held at all except by the Catholic Church through censorship.

The Ancient Egyptians used calculus to determine the earth was arched. [1] And the Ancient Greeks also determined the earth was round. [2]

SOURCES:

[1] https://www.iflscience.com/this-is-how-ancient-people-knew-the-earth-was-round-59202

[2] https://youtu.be/T0f6u39jlRA

--> @Best.Korea

So you're account in debate art isn't an account?

Shila, 

YOUR DECEIVING AND DUMBFOUNDED QUOTE RELATIVE TO JESUS AS YAHWEH GOD INCARNATE:"We now know the Jesus you worship is very different from the Jesus Christians worship.

HELLO SHILA BIBLE FOOL!  I am NOT blaspheming Jesus because I have described Jesus' true historical modus operandi within the scriptures in Jesus being Yahweh God incarnate, of which you are obviously unaware of because of your complete Bible stupidity!  Now, once again, are you ready to discuss the aforementioned TRUE statements relative to Jesus, or are you going to run away from them and go into hiding,  just like the equally Bible ignorant Tradesecret continually does? 

Again, remember dear, this thread is about the "Historical Jesus," therefore the MO of Jesus as I have shown above is pertinent to your ungodly thread!

Waiting for your response!

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--> @Shila

I only said perhaps.

--> @Intelligence_06

If I am reading this correctly, you are saying that if we redefine flat to "a side or a surface" then the world is flat relative to where we are standing and everything, Therefore, is realigned in reference to our position on earth.

While this is an interesting thought experiment, we already have mountains of data that prove the earth is not flat.

Also, fwiw, the Bible doesn't teach the earth is flat. The Hebrew word translated "circle" (חוּג) in most Bibles actually means vault in the archaic meaning, or an arch. So when it says the vault of the earth, it is saying the earth is curved. [1] 

Additionally, ancient rabbinical commentaries on this passage also allude to the fact that the earth is both round and flat. To claim one was always the case is to ignore the Jerusalem Talmud. [2]

SOURCES:

[1] https://biblehub.com/bdb/2329.htm

[2] https://daatemet.org.il/en/torah-science-ethics/scientific-errors-in-torah/what-the-sages-knew-about-the-shape-of-the-earth/

--> @BrotherD.Thomas

Shila, are you that SCARED in front of the membership to discuss the real Historical Jesus as shown above? 

The thing here Brother D. is that Shila is of the impression that because no one on this thread has actually argued against there ever being an historical Jesus, he has jumped to the conclusion that he somehow proven that an historical Jesus actually existed. Which of course he hasn't proven any such thing. 

Shila, the Copy and Paste Artist, the dumbfounded Bible fool, and the runaway from Bible facts about our Historical Jesus,

Barring your outright Bible stupidity that Jesus DID NOT DIE as I have shown you in this link: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8091/post-links/353291   why do you continue to run away in discussion like Miss Tradesecret does when I present biblical axioms to the two of you?  As explicitly shown below, the “Historical Jesus,” which is the topic of your ungodly thread in not following 1 Timothy 2:11-14, had the biblical attributes listed below, bar none!

Those attributes that you sheepishly RUN AWAY from about our Jesus as being Yahweh God incarnate are as follows: Jesus was embarrassingly, greedy, jealous, selfish, self-centered, petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capricious, and malevolent.

Shila, remember bible stupid fool, your thread is about the "historical Jesus," therefore,  the aforementioned attributes about Jesus are all in context with your pitiful and embarrassing thread!  Get it?

Shila, are you that SCARED in front of the membership to discuss the real Historical Jesus as shown above?  Huh?  Or, are you going to run like Miss Tradesecret does and HIDE from your own thread?  LOL!

Stephen,

Regarding my revealing post that Jesus DID NOT DIE, as shown herewith in this link: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8091/post-links/353291  , DEBATEART Religion Forum must have a sign out once again somewhere that states "All Bible stupid pseudo-christians welcome!" Therefore, as shown, Shila, and the ever so Bible inept Miss Tradesecret, have taken advantage of this welcoming sign and are now making continued Bible fools of themselves!

As I have said before, Bible stupid pseudo-christians do not know they are Bible stupid, because of the simple fact that they are so Bible stupid®️

JESUS DIDN'T DIE BIBLE FOOL SHILA!

DIE: to cease to live; undergo the complete and permanent cessation of all vital functions; become dead.

Listen up Bible fool Shila, Jesus DID NOT remain dead, because He came back after a 3 day tomb nap and walked out as being flesh and blood, understood Bible fool, huh?  In the real primitive bible sacrifices the individual or animal remained DEAD, which is a true meaningful sacrifice!  Deduced, since our Jesus did not remain dead, he therefore did not die by remaining dead as the definition in how one dies shown above! 

 A factual and real sacrifice is that you remain DEAD, period, where one does NOT come back to life three days later!  HELLO?!  As an example, a true sacrifice  is when USA  soldiers remained dead after they gave their lives to protect the United States of America in WW2!

SHILA the continued Bible fool, the question on everyone’s mind has to be when are you going to TRUTHFULLY show that our Jesus we worship, as the Serial Killer Yahweh God incarnate, was embarrassingly, greedy, jealous, selfish, self-centered, petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capricious, and malevolent!

--> @Yassine

 "Why I Support LGBT & Feminism" 

"That LGBT+Feminism is the shortest & amplest path to population collapse. White populations fertility is currently at about half replacement rate, & declining. This is the generation which grew up in the 70s & 80s, during 2nd & 3rd wave Feminism. The upcoming generation, of which close to half are LGBT+, will likely half the fertility, to probably quarter replacement rate; since LGBT+ contribution to fertility is, well, insignificant. Half replacement rate means half the population over a life expectancy cycle, idem for a quarter. Specifically, the 600 million Whites in the world will become 300 million by the end of the century at half replacement rate, & 150 million at quarter replacement rate. "

Where am I confused?

An empty tomb is only evidence that a tomb was found to be empty. Nothing you have produced proves anything at all.

Sorry to burst your bubble but resurrection is nothing more than an initiation ritual into one sect or another.

--> @Shila

Your quote "As our survey shows, only one percent of the population doesn't like ice cream – but of those who enjoy it, only 45 percent eat it regularly without concern," said Amit Pandhi." isn't even from your link? And directly contradicts the 7% you and the link are saying.

-->

@BrotherD.Thomas

Is the bible contradicting?

Why don't you go and ask your master. I notice he has joined the site recently under the name of best.korea.

He seems almost as "quacky" as you.

Both of you seem determined to be the biggest fraud and fake on this site.

--> @Shila

--> @Shila

In the Christian religion, the Resurrection is Jesus Christ's return to life on the third day after his death,

Yes. I am sure all the indoctrinated from birth Christians believe that pathetic drivel.  But it nothing more than an initiation ritual.

If resurrection was just an initiation ritual, why is it unique to Christianity ?

Why do you not research the subject instead of simply regurgitating what you have been brainwashed into regurgitating?

Not a single person witnessed a three-day old rotten stinking corpse rise from a stone-cold slab.

-> @Shila

Muslims wanting to destroy their opponents is hardly new or radical.

- This is a debate website. It's literally meant for destroying opponents. Ain't nothing Muslim about it.

Now Muslims trying something different instead might be one for the record.  Is it because Islam is reaching equality with Christianity in numbers, so slitting the throats of infidels is less necessary?

- You are projecting. Not because you do it, then everyone else must do it too.

--> @Shila

In the Christian religion, the Resurrection is Jesus Christ's return to life on the third day after his death,

Yes. I am sure all the indoctrinated from birth Christians believe that pathetic drivel.  But it nothing more than an initiation ritual.

It is a ancient ritual ceremony of 'rebirth ' into a following or sect.

Nothing more nothing less.

ritual

/ˈrɪtʃʊəl/

Learn to pronounce

noun

1. a religious or solemn ceremony consisting of a series of actions performed according to a prescribed order.
   

The same ritual was performed on Lazarus. He was said to have "died" - i.e.lost faith in the movement. 

--> @Intelligence_06

Please address the line of text you need assistance with. p is for prime number

Understand that post #3 is a corrective alternative to post #1. I found some issues with that scenario, that didnt fit with the 3D torus.

There is a third option of the graviton-darkeon, that Ive not presented in this thread.  The 2D lattice for 18 nodal events,  and it is in post #3, I just dont explain that scenario/option. It is an option, because the 18 --like the 12--- is on the same line as the initiating nodal point 0. This means that in those two scenarios, they each come around to meet each other   ---12/0 or a 18/0---  to created that specific great circle of the torus, having total of four great circles.

When 12 or 18 meet zero they inherently are considered to share the same  location/position-in-space.

In so doing, the nodal account of 13 goes to 12 and the nodal accounting of 19 goes to 18. For these reasons laid out here and in post #3, ive considered the 15 to 14 nodal event to be incorrect, at least until I can understand a logical common sense way to integrate the leftover two nodes --16 and 17p--,  into my spiral, dipolar invaginated, 3D torus.

What are you expecting entering this topic? I don't know. Either way, let me explain.

Heliocentrism isn't wrong, but inefficient: In that case, both the moon and the sun will orbit around the earth, while planets such as Jupiter and Saturn, with themselves many moons around them, are calculated to orbit a center that is closer to the sun than the earth. This would mean to calculate about Ganymede, you first have to calculate about the Sun's motion, then the motion of Jupiter, then Io. That is super inefficient. Instead of that, why don't we set the reference at the Sun?

It is the old religious who fixed the reference at Earth and accepted nothing else, not Galileo nor Copernicus. Galileo, Copernicus, Kepler, etc... just provided new references that made calculation and observation more efficient.

In reality, we technically can define the Earth's surface as flat and anything tangential to the Earth "above it". The problem becomes that if some object flys directly above the south pole, the position for that object on the "flat earth model"  would teleport from one side to another. All constellations would be on one side of "earth", the other side being what is "underneath the Earth", which we will have a mantle and core as wide as the surface of Earth itself. We can just fold space enough so that the Earth's curvature matches the morphed space so the Earth is flat according to that system. In that case, the earth is flat.

Due to astronomical, geological, geographical(continents in the South will be disproportionally enlarged), physical, and maybe even archaelogical inconvenience, we pretty much discard this model the moment it is being formed in one's mind. That is why this model wasn't being thought of before with great depths, hmm, I guess.

Brother D and Stephen are the number one stalkers on this site.  They are both fakes and frauds.  They accuse others of being liars but never quite produce the proof. They provide little snippets of evidence but never the killer blow.  Like most con artists they use a piece of fact and attempt to build up from there with speculation to try and sound like they know what they are talking.  

I am not perfect. Never have I claimed to be. But I am not a liar.  

--> @Shila

Why do you keep feeding these trolls?

Stephen, you and BrotherD. Only want to talk about Tradesecret.

 Stop it. You bring up the Reverend every chance you get.

You have perpetuated all conversations about the reverend, on nearly ALL of your threads or threads that you have resurrected, when I have asked you continually to stick with your topic.

Take it or leave it. A pastor and or chaplain are addressed as Reverend.

How to Address a Pastor, Minister, Christian Clergy

Pastor With a Doctorate

—-Envelope or address block on letter or email:

—-—-The Reverend (Full Name)

—-—-(Church)

—-—-(Address)  how to address a protestant minister

—-Salutation: how to address a protestant minister

—-—-Dear Dr. (Surname):

Pastor Without a Doctorate

—-Envelope or address block on letter or email:

—-—-The Reverend (Full Name)

—-—-(Church)

How to Address a Pastor - Greet, Email, Write or Say Name (formsofaddress.info)

Chaplains to the Armed Services

1. The Reverend A B Smith RN (or CF or RAF)
   
2. Padre, or Padre Smith
   
3. The Padre, or Padre Smith
   

How to address the clergy (crockford.org.uk)

I don't care if you or the Reverend cannot accept these facts. But they are facts. If you don't want to be discussing the Reverend, then simply stop forcing the conversation in his direction and bringing him up every other post that you make.

So get your thread back on course, unless all this is about the Reverend helping you distract from  Brother D. making you look like a bible ignorant dunce. 

Besides the title one has to earn that respect to be called a Reverend.

So you still insist on perpetuating lies on his behalf.  

he does not want to be called Reverend and prefers Pastor.

But he is a Reverend. That is his title. He has claimed to be both a Pastor and a Chaplain to the military.  Why are you denying facts?

Or he is LYING and you are helping him perpetuate his lies. 

How to Address a Pastor, Minister, Christian Clergy

Pastor With a Doctorate

—-Envelope or address block on letter or email:

—-—-The Reverend (Full Name)

—-—-(Church)

—-—-(Address)  how to address a protestant minister

—-Salutation: how to address a protestant minister

—-—-Dear Dr. (Surname):

Pastor Without a Doctorate

—-Envelope or address block on letter or email:

—-—-The Reverend (Full Name)

—-—-(Church)

How to Address a Pastor - Greet, Email, Write or Say Name (formsofaddress.info)

Chaplains to the Armed Services

1. The Reverend A B Smith RN (or CF or RAF)
   
2. Padre, or Padre Smith
   
3. The Padre, or Padre Smith
   

How to address the clergy (crockford.org.uk)

Shila weote: "Having established the case for the Historical Jesus. The question on everyone’s mind has to be why and how did the Historical Jesus die?"

Brother D. Wrote:

JESUS DIDN'T DIE BIBLE FOOL SHILA!

DIE: to cease to live; undergo the complete and permanent cessation of all vital functions; become dead.

Listen up Bible fool Shila, Jesus DID NOT remain dead, because He came back after a 3 day tomb nap and walked out as being flesh and blood, understood Bible fool, huh?  In the real primitive bible sacrifices the individual or animal remained DEAD, which is a true meaningful sacrifice!  Deduced, since our Jesus did not remain dead, he therefore did not die by remaining dead as the definition in how one dies shown above! 

Stephen: Interesting that the Christians close their eyes and stick their fingers in their ears when the obvious is pointed out to them, isn't it Brother D. ? 

There is also a very good case to be made that Jesus survived the cross and didn't die in any sense of the word. 

Brother D. Wrote:

 A factual and real sacrifice is that you remain DEAD, period, where one does NOT come back to life three days later!  HELLO?!  As an example, a true sacrifice  is when USA  soldiers remained dead after they gave their lives to protect the United States of America in WW2!

Stephen: In a nut-shell, Btother D.  👍

Stephen, You two have known each other for over 4 years. 

I don't know him at all. I only know what he has volunteered about himself to this forum on the WWW

You two are lying. So which is it?

You must have missed this what I already posted at #290 above and have repeated for you below. Try reading it, taking your time.

#290

Tradesecret wrote: Perhaps it might be worthwhile knowing that I have never said I was a reverend or asked to be called one. Infact Stephen lied about this as well - and when challenged, came up with nary a response.

I have said it many times to you before REVEREND, you dulcet dunce.  You must be the only Chaplain & Pastor in the whole world that doesn't know he's to be addressed as Reverend.

Chaplains to the Armed Services

1. The Reverend A B Smith RN (or CF or RAF).   https://www.crockford.org.uk/faq/how-to-address-the-clergy
   

TRADESECRET WROTE: 

I am also a chaplain to our Countries Defence forces, a position I could not have without proper qualifications.  #20

The title Reverend applies to Pastors too. 

TRADESECRET WROTE:

But in my role as a pastor - which I also do, I counsel in pastoral care.#20

And is all you have ever done is deny that you are a Reverend.

TRADESECRET WROTE:

  And I am not a reverend. #29

I keep telling you, you are very ill, Reverend.

Shila wrote: drop the name Reverend out of respect for the Christian institution you belong to.

Shila,  He has no respect for anyone. He's a lying narcissist that I believe suffers from severe Munchausen's. The believability of lie and the fantasy are of no consequence to someone in his condition. SEE HERE>>#207

He may not want to be called Reverend, but he is stuck with that title until he simply admits he is a compulsive pathological liar.

You have been suckered into supporting these lying clowns lies and should know better. It makes you a worse liar then he is. You are more a disgrace than he ever will be..

Stephen: He may not want to be called Reverend, but he is stuck with that title until he simply admits he is a compulsive pathological liar.

Shila, in being a woman, will be going to Hell upon her demise anyway, therefore her time here in going against God's word is all for naught,

Addressing once again your Bible stupidity in your post #285;

YOUR PITIFUL QUOTE IN CONTINUING TO SLAP JESUS IN THE FACE AS A WOMAN THAT IS NOT TO TEACH:   "Having established the case for the Historical Jesus. The question on everyone’s mind has to be why and how did the Historical Jesus die?"

JESUS DIDN'T DIE BIBLE FOOL SHILA!

DIE: to cease to live; undergo the complete and permanent cessation of all vital functions; become dead.

Listen up Bible fool Shila, Jesus DID NOT remain dead, because He came back after a 3 day tomb nap and walked out as being flesh and blood, understood Bible fool, huh?  In the real primitive bible sacrifices the individual or animal remained DEAD, which is a true meaningful sacrifice!  Deduced, since our Jesus did not remain dead, he therefore did not die by remaining dead as the definition in how one dies shown above! 

 A factual and real sacrifice is that you remain DEAD, period, where one does NOT come back to life three days later!  HELLO?!  As an example, a true sacrifice  is when USA  soldiers remained dead after they gave their lives to protect the United States of America in WW2!

SHILA the continued Bible fool, the question on everyone’s mind has to be when are you going to TRUTHFULLY show that our Jesus we worship, as the Serial Killer Yahweh God incarnate, was embarrassingly, greedy, jealous, selfish, self-centered, petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capricious, and malevolent!

The aforementioned biblical axioms about our Jesus as God of the Bible has been accepted by me as a true Christian upon this Religion Forum!  Shila, do you accept the above facts about are Jesus as well, and if not, where do you get the authority to NOT accept them?  Would you be to SCARED to discuss said facts about our Jesus?

--> @BrotherD.Thomas

 All you are doing [shila], like Miss Tradesecret, is to propose a diversion tactic to take the lime-light off you you making a complete fool of yourself relating to the Bible!   

Stephen: Indeed Brother D. This is all they have left once the mask slips. 👍

Neither want to seriously discuss scripture once they have been shown to be so bible ignorant. 

Shila, the unsurpassed Bible fool here at DEBATEART Religion Forum,

Addressing your Bible dumbfounded post #284,

YOUR CONTINUED STUPIDITY IN CIRCULAR REASONING SHOWN ONCE AGAIN: "The Bible is not taught in junior grade public  schools because of a ruling by the Supreme Court."

HELLO?!  Read in what Tommy said at your continued embarrassing expense, BIBLE DOOFUS WOMAN!   Tommy quote: " .... even my 2nd graders in my Chistan skool can understand that jesus rote the bible, okay dumb ass girl, hehehehe …….?  Get it? Huh?  Tommy goes to a Christian school where the Bible is taught, now, wipe the egg from your Satanic face once again in front of the membership, Shila the Bible fool!  LOL!

YOUR CIRCULAR REASONING QUOTE ONCE AGAIN: "What is a 56 year old BrotherD doing with a 2nd grader named Tommy should be of concern to mods."

Look at the low levels you have to go in response to myself making you the true Bible fool that you are!  In alluding that there should be a concern with my neighbors boy in the 2nd grade.  All you are doing, like Miss Tradesecret, is to propose a diversion tactic to take the lime-light off you you making a complete fool of yourself relating to the Bible!   The ONLY  CONCERN for the mods should be your outright Bible stupidity that gives this Religion Forum a bad name!!!!

The rest of your Satanic diatribe in your pitiful post #284 is COPY AND PASTE from your previous posts to me in "trying" to defend your Satanic position, therefore since I proved you wrong previously, and to save you any further embarrassment, I will not respond to a continuous C&P ungodly rhetoric of yours!

NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN WOMAN THAT COPIES AND PASTED HER BIBLE STUPIDITY AGAIN, AND AGAIN, WILL BE ...?

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To the average person a Pastor and Reverend are both members of the clergy.

Stephen: Remember you are dealing with a compulsive liar one that will only lie further in an attempt to cover previous lies.

The title Reverend applies to both a pastor and a chaplain. <<<This is a fact. Simply check it for yourself and stop bothering me. You are no better than him, if fact, you are worse.

Please sort this out with him so we don’t give him more credit than he deserves.

Stephen: YOU are the one that keeps heaping credit on him.  I have proven him to be a liar and you simply encouraged and perpetuated his lies by agreeing with his lies.

In school I never did learn of the Australian Aboriginal massacres,

But I did learn of the Native American  deaths, loss of land,

I'm from America.

But even without an event being tied 'directly to one's own country,

There is value in 'world history, other countries histories and events,

'Lot of history I admit, but I'm not saying people can't find value elsewhere, or that they 'have to learn history, but I find it valuable, and so too others, I'd say.

-> @Shila

Now we might be heading for a recession because of the higher interest rates imposed by the Federal Reserves to combat inflation. We need a new economic theory.

Read the post’s title. Like I said, a small recession might be necessary to avoid a serious inflationary spiral.