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@Greyparrot
--> @ShilaYou mean Elon Musk of course. America's favorite African American
I didn’t know Elon Musk was a comedian on Comedy Central
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@sadolite
-> @ShilaDie
You are a regular person descending into hate
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@Greyparrot
--> @ShilaYou mean Elon Musk of course. America's favorite African American
I didn’t know Elon Musk was a comedian on Comedy Central.
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@TWS1405
From Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles to Liz Wheeler, they all get it wrong on abortion.None of them (pro-lifers) have the requisite intellect to grasp the simple fact that potentiality ≠ actuality. Never has. Never will.At conception the very (very) basic biological criterion for cellular “life” is met. That cellular life (ie, zygote) ≠ [a] human being. Neither does a blastocyst, embryo, or an unviable fetus. That’s just a scientific fact of human physiology and biology.The ONLY stage of gestational development where the fetus can be equates to that of [a] human being is the point of fetal viability. It is at this point of development within the womb that the viable fetus can survive outside the womb without further gestational development. With ir without medical intervention.To call a zygote, blastocyst, embryo and unviable fetus the emotively charged term, “baby,” is an implicit misnomer. It’s factually inaccurate on all levels.
Abortion is the deliberate termination of a human pregnancy, most often performed during the first 28 weeks of pregnancy.
Definition of pregnant · 1 : containing a developing embryo, fetus, or unborn offspring within the body.
All Abortions point to a deliberate destruction of life.
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@TWS1405
It was only a matter of time.Sure wish Joy “racist” Reid would get fired too. Along with Nick Cannon on the Masked Singer. Can’t stand that anti-Semetic and anti-white racist POS.
What did they expect hiring a guy from South Africa who lived through apartheid?
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@Tarik
--> @SidewalkerIf only God can define goodness, how do you account for the fact that most atheists tend to be ethical people of high moral character.There’s nothing moral about the rejection of God.
The Bible does not say it is immoral to reject God. But there is punishment for rejecting God.
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@Greyparrot
-> @ShilaYour sense of fairness is warped. If Biden destroys American wealth there won’t be much left to give away.It's fair because wealth is a sin
At your level of income you cannot give any away. You are forever stuck with the little sin you have.
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We need more Christian converts on DebateArt so they can be actively pursued by Atheists.
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Maybe they don’t want to list repeat offenders.
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@Greyparrot
--> @ShilaBiden believes in a fair distribution of wealth.Yes. Destroy 9 trillion dollars of American wealth while giving 100 billion to Ukraine to fight his private war. That seems fair.Good analysis mr chatbot
Your sense of fairness is warped. If Biden destroys American wealth there won’t be much left to give away.
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@sadolite
--> @ShilaFucking just die cunt
Is that what IAN has don’t to Florida, turn the people like you into haters of the privileged.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
--> @ShilaIsn’t it a bit hypocritical that Western countries frown on pedophiles but child ponography is on the rise.If you are a chatbot things with AI are starting to get real. If you're a human for whom English is a second language, you got plenty of learning left to do good luck. If you're a human for whom English is your first language....
Notice all your sentences start with a big IF. You appear trapped in your own stupidity. You must dream of liberty.
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@ILikePie5
--> @ShilaYou have small hands and an even smaller thumb. Not very convincing.And you have cooties :)
You also suffer from fear of insects. Is there anything right about you?
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@Greyparrot
--> @ShilaThe US was once a leader for healthcare and education — now it ranks 27th in the world.Among OECD countries, the United States is the most obese (36.2%).Being 27'th in the world for healthcare despite ranking dead last for public obesity is a remarkable achievement considering Obesity is the number one cause of death from all sources, including Covid.
Biden believes in a fair distribution of wealth.
Trump gave tax breaks amounting to 2.3 trillion only to the rich..
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@Greyparrot
--> @ShilaThe US was once a leader for healthcare and education — now it ranks 27th in the world.Among OECD countries, the United States is the most obese (36.2%).Being 27'th in the world for healthcare despite ranking dead last for public obesity is a remarkable achievement considering Obesity is the number one cause of death from all sources, including Covid.
That simply means what the American Healthcare system teaches and what the American public follow are not compatible.
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--> @whiteflameIt is likely that the user was an alt of Shila, considering that Shila foreshadowed a 'test' that she says succeeded.
Shila was the only one to test the system against abuse. It worked!
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@Greyparrot
Biden is committed to fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.Zelensky is committed to fighting Russia until the last American dollar.Beep boop
You can’t be that daft. Biden isn’t fighting Russia. It’s the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy that is fighting Russia.
America is only supplying military aid to Ukraine. Get your facts right.
About 8 billion in aid given to Ukraine. No way Zelensky can outspend American generosity.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
--> @Best.KoreaI am questioning whether the activities are truly sexualIts not important if child thinks its truly sexual or fun or exciting or interesting or some other form of fun.Whats important is that child consents.The reason for consent, as I said, can be pleasure.Consent is important, but it is not sufficient.The responsibility to avoid a mechanism of harm that either through lack of communication, cognition, or wisdom cannot be delegated to someone else must be considered.In this case no amount of gentleness or pleasure is going to change the fact that when the prepubescent child finds out (later) that what was being disguised as tickling, caressing, or some trivial game at the time was actually a massive turn on for the adult they are going to feel like they were deceived and betrayed.Society may amplify that impression but it is unlikely (in my opinion) that society manufactures that impression out of whole cloth.When puberty does its work you see orgasms, you see sexual attractions, you see porn... i.e. you see a complete sexual system coming together. That is the first time there is a chance to engage in sexual behavior as a partner.
Isn’t it a bit hypocritical that Western countries frown on pedophiles but child ponography is on the rise.
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Mermaids should always be white.
It was the white culture that believed females should always keep their legs tightly locked together to keep strangers out. The mermaid was the perfect example of white female modesty. Legs inseparable and covered.
It should remain a symbol of white culture. Just like three legged men are symbols of black men with over extended not so private parts. And the mermaid is ideally dressed to resist them.
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@sadolite
--> @zedvictor4No real damage to speak of at my home, pool screens, soffit pieces and a shit ton of tree branches to fix and clean up. Never lost power. Shila can still die.
Good to hear you escaped IAN relatively untouched. The tax payers won’t have to subsidize you for life.
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@Best.Korea
-->@Best.Korea-> @Shila"Most parent would discourage their children from masturbating religious or not."True, but only religious nutjobs tell their children that its a sin and that God will burn them for it.I am not saying that religious nutjob parenting is a bad style of parenting.In fact, it carries many benefits for the parents.They can lie to their children as much as they want while being justified in the eyes of every other nutjob and in the eyes of God.It doesnt matter how many mistakes they made, since their religion says God forgives almost everything as long as you are a believer.Parents can even label their children as possessed in case they show signs of atheism.Children can be told about all the things God will do to them in case they turn atheist.So really, its a fun system for parents.
Are you telling us your parents were disappointed in you and declared you possessed because you started masturbating at an early age?
-->@ShilaThat happened when I told them I dont believe in God.
But that you believed in masturbation.
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@zedvictor4
--> @ShilaIndia also has a lot of very poor people who have always been self-reliant.India is a Nation of two halves. A very big half and a much smaller half.Typical of capitalist evolution I suppose.
There is an explanation for Indias current high poverty rate.
How Britain stole $45 trillion from India And lied about it
Jason Hickel The GuardianJason Hickel The Guardian
DECEMBER 15, 2018
There is a story that is commonly told in Britain that the colonisation of India – as horrible as it may have been – was not of any major economic benefit to Britain itself. If anything, the administration of India was a cost to Britain. So the fact that the empire was sustained for so long – the story goes – was a gesture of Britain’s benevolence.
New research by the renowned economist Utsa Patnaik – just published by Columbia University Press – deals a crushing blow to this narrative. Drawing on nearly two centuries of detailed data on tax and trade, Patnaik calculated that Britain drained a total of nearly $45 trillion from India during the period 1765 to 1938.
It’s a staggering sum. For perspective, $45 trillion is 17 times more than the total annual gross domestic product of the United Kingdom today.
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For democracy to work requires a well informed electorate.
Thomas Jefferson wrote that a well-informed electorate is a prerequisite to democracy.
But unfortunately the American electorate are divided and riddled with conspiracy theories.
The US was once a leader for healthcare and education — now it ranks 27th in the world.
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@Stephen
--> @Tradesecretthat when you think of what you look like - you can only think of me? wow I am flattered.Thanks for the compliment though.
How did Tracey come to that conclusion?
And I wouldn't expect a lesser response from an egotistical narcissist such as you are, Reverend "Tradey".You keep giving me cause and I will always be there to remind you.Get well soon.
There is no cure for gender dysphoria. Though castration helps isolate the problem.
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@Stephen
--> @Shilaif Jesus was an atheist what does it make the Christians who idol worship him?Delusional
Harikrish came to the same conclusion 4 years ago. Strange that no one challenged him.
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@Sidewalker
--> @ShilaThe expanding universe was discovered by Hubble.Did Hubble discover the expanding universe?In one of the most famous classic papers in the annals of science, Edwin Hubble's 1929 PNAS article on the observed relation between distance and recession velocity of galaxies—the Hubble Law—unveiled the expanding universe and forever changed our understanding of the cosmosSo the expansion was visibly observed by the Hubble Telescope.Evidence that the Universe was expanding was observed by Edwin Hubble, the Hubble Telescope was launched 60 years later.So the expansion was visibly observed by the Hubble Telescope.No, Edwin Hubble wrote the PNAS article in 1929 after he had made the observations, he died in 1953, it was in 1990, 37 years after he died, and almost 60 years after he published the discovery, that they launched the most powerful telescope in the world, and to honor Hubble's tremendous contributions they named the telescope after him. What he visibly observed was redshift, and from that data he inferred the expansion of the Universe that Einstein's General Theory had predicted. The Hubble Telescope did not make the observations, Edwin Hubble did.It was a Belgian Catholic Priest and Theoretical Physicist named Georges Lemaître that recognized that the equations of Einstein's theory predicted an expanding Universe and brought it to Einsteins attention. Einstein didn't believe that was possible, so he adjusted his theory to remove the expansion from his equations by adding the "cosmological constant". Twelve years later, when Hubble provided observational evidence that it was indeed expanding, Einstein removed the cosmological constant and said it had been the biggest blunder of his career.
It took years before scientist mastered what the Hubble telescope was revealing and they adjusted their calculation using refined distancing measurements to arrive at a less than 2% uncertainty.
In 1929, Edwin Hubble provided the first observational evidence for the universe having a finite age. Using the largest telescope of the time, he discovered that the more distant a galaxy is from us, the faster it appears to be receding into space. This means that the universe is expanding uniformly in all directions. Hubble noted that light from faraway galaxies appeared to be stretched to longer wavelengths, or reddened, a phenomenon called redshift.
By precisely determining the expansion rate, called the Hubble constant, the cosmic clock can be rewound and the age of the universe calculated. However, Edwin Hubble's estimates of the expansion implied that the universe was younger than the age of the Earth and the Sun. Hubble, therefore, concluded that the redshift phenomenon was an unknown property of space and not a measurement of true space velocity. Astronomers later realized that redshift was a consequence of the expansion of space itself, as predicted in Einstein's theory of special relativity.
However, the age estimate is only as reliable as the accuracy of the distance measurements. A precise value for the Hubble constant is a critical anchor point for calibrating other fundamental cosmological parameters for the universe.
When the Hubble Space Telescope was launched, the uncertainly over the universe’s expansion rate was off by a factor of two. This meant that the universe could be as young as 9.7 billion years or as old as 19.5 billion years. The younger value presented a huge problem; it would mean the universe was younger than the oldest known stars.
EXPAND Early Hubble observations looked for cosmic milepost markers, the Cepheid variable stars, in ever-farther galaxies. The galaxy M100, located 56 million light-years away, is shown here. These data refined estimates for the expansion rate of the universe.
In 1994, astronomers began refining the Hubble constant by making precise distance measurements out to the Virgo cluster of galaxies, located 56 million light-years away. This allowed astronomers to begin refining distance measurements that are needed to calculate a more precise value for the Hubble constant. They made observations of a class of star called Cepheid Variables. These stars go through rhythmic pulsations where they slightly rise and fall in brightness. The period of this oscillation is directly linked to the Cepheid’s intrinsic brightness. Once the star’s true brightness is known, astronomers can calculate a precise distance to it.
By the late 1990s, the refined value of the Hubble constant was reduced to an error of only about 10 percent. Another team of astronomers continues to streamline and strengthen this by calibrating more Cepheids ever more distant than the local universe. These data were cross-correlated with even farther milepost measurements of exploding stars, supernovas, to build a cosmic “distance ladder.” The measurement of the Hubble constant improved from 10 percent uncertainty at the start of the 2000s to less than 2 percent by 2019.
By precisely determining the expansion rate, called the Hubble constant, the cosmic clock can be rewound and the age of the universe calculated. However, Edwin Hubble's estimates of the expansion implied that the universe was younger than the age of the Earth and the Sun. Hubble, therefore, concluded that the redshift phenomenon was an unknown property of space and not a measurement of true space velocity. Astronomers later realized that redshift was a consequence of the expansion of space itself, as predicted in Einstein's theory of special relativity.
However, the age estimate is only as reliable as the accuracy of the distance measurements. A precise value for the Hubble constant is a critical anchor point for calibrating other fundamental cosmological parameters for the universe.
When the Hubble Space Telescope was launched, the uncertainly over the universe’s expansion rate was off by a factor of two. This meant that the universe could be as young as 9.7 billion years or as old as 19.5 billion years. The younger value presented a huge problem; it would mean the universe was younger than the oldest known stars.
EXPAND Early Hubble observations looked for cosmic milepost markers, the Cepheid variable stars, in ever-farther galaxies. The galaxy M100, located 56 million light-years away, is shown here. These data refined estimates for the expansion rate of the universe.
In 1994, astronomers began refining the Hubble constant by making precise distance measurements out to the Virgo cluster of galaxies, located 56 million light-years away. This allowed astronomers to begin refining distance measurements that are needed to calculate a more precise value for the Hubble constant. They made observations of a class of star called Cepheid Variables. These stars go through rhythmic pulsations where they slightly rise and fall in brightness. The period of this oscillation is directly linked to the Cepheid’s intrinsic brightness. Once the star’s true brightness is known, astronomers can calculate a precise distance to it.
By the late 1990s, the refined value of the Hubble constant was reduced to an error of only about 10 percent. Another team of astronomers continues to streamline and strengthen this by calibrating more Cepheids ever more distant than the local universe. These data were cross-correlated with even farther milepost measurements of exploding stars, supernovas, to build a cosmic “distance ladder.” The measurement of the Hubble constant improved from 10 percent uncertainty at the start of the 2000s to less than 2 percent by 2019.
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@zedvictor4
--> @ShilaLifestyle choices very much includes dietary choices.Lifestyle is socially promoted and therefore becomes acquired and established.Hopefully new generations of Americans will get a new message.The current obesity issue will not be solved by an instant click of the fingers.
Sounds like a shift from your previous position “Obesity is not so much about diet, but about lifestyle.”
-> @ShilaObesity is not so much about diet, but about lifestyle.A vegan diet can be just as unhealthy as an omnivorous diet.Though the former is likely to be under-nourished, rather than over-nourished.
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@Tradesecret
-->@ShilaWe have you admission you are not looking for truth anymore. You looked for truth and never found it. And like also admit you haven't found what you are looking for yet - or else you wouldn't be here.I know that English is not your first language so I just want you to know I won't hold that against you in your interpretation of what I have written.I am not looking for truth anymore - why? Because it found me. Why would I keep looking if I have now been found my truth?And as for me being here - I am an exception to the rule. I know that sounds weak and probably is. but its true. I also like to talk with people who are looking for the truth - and hopefully I can assist them in some way. Either by leading them to the truth or by helping them to see the truth more clearly. I admit I don't always do a good job.
You said the same thing in another post but quite differently.
Tradesecret: I don't need to search for truth anymore. Truth found me. As someone once said - if you can't take Muhammed to the mountain - you bring the mountain to Muhammed. There are more than one way to skin a cat. The interesting thing about Christianity - is truth is not a concept - it is a personIf truth in Christianity is not a concept, it is a person and the person is Jesus.
Then truth in Christianity was crucified. Jesus was mocked, beaten and crucified.
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@Tradesecret
-> @ShilaI don't need to search for truth anymore. Truth found me. As someone once said - if you can't take Muhammed to the mountain - you bring the mountain to Muhammed. There are more than one way to skin a cat. The interesting thing about Christianity - is truth is not a concept - it is a person
If truth in Christianity is not a concept, it is a person and the person is Jesus.
Then truth in Christianity was crucified. Jesus was mocked, beaten and crucified.
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@oromagi
-> @ShilaCan you make a list of members I should avoid? I am new here and don’t know anyone well enough.I don't think you should avoid anybody. Give 'em hell and damn their torpedos of tortuous torpor. When they start blocking you, then you'll know who's down for debating and who's a chickenshit loser.
Thank you . I will take note of all those who are blocking me. That is simple enough.
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@TWS1405
--> @Shila@TWS1405--> @SkepticalOneLook! It’s a well established story, as is the Disney cartoon movie. Taking the exact same story/movie script and replacing the white chick for a black chick [is] “black washing.” The fact that the character is a mermaid is utterly irrelevant. Why you cannot grasp that simple fact is beyond those of us who disagree with your illogical nonsense.If Disney has already captured the white audience, by black washing the heroes it hopes to capture the black audience as well.The problem only surfaces when the black cast is nominated the Oscar and receives higher ratings.Write a new story instead of ripping off a well-known and well-established story/movie script.Shows a huge lack of intelligence and creativity to do otherwise
The story is not the problem. Black actors are proving to be more talented and winning the Oscar is the ultimate test.
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@Best.Korea
-> @Shila"Most parent would discourage their children from masturbating religious or not."True, but only religious nutjobs tell their children that its a sin and that God will burn them for it.I am not saying that religious nutjob parenting is a bad style of parenting.In fact, it carries many benefits for the parents.They can lie to their children as much as they want while being justified in the eyes of every other nutjob and in the eyes of God.It doesnt matter how many mistakes they made, since their religion says God forgives almost everything as long as you are a believer.Parents can even label their children as possessed in case they show signs of atheism.Children can be told about all the things God will do to them in case they turn atheist.So really, its a fun system for parents.
Are you telling us your parents were disappointed in you and declared you possessed because you started masturbating at an early age?
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@Dr.Franklin
-->@coalenlighten me
He already has.
coal: In fact, I don't even think you're capable of recognizing that you're chained to the floor of the cave, much less that dancing shadows on its wall are made you create this thread.
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@Double_R
-> @ShilaSo you would prefer their arguments be reduced to logical connectives?An argument that does not connect logically is irrational by definition.If insisting that an argument be rational is a reduction to you then you have issues I can’t help you with.
I am asking why you lost 2 of the 2 debates you participated in if you are so rational?
Is it always because your rational argument is irrational by definition.
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@Sidewalker
--> @ShilaThe expanding universe was discovered by Hubble.Did Hubble discover the expanding universe?In one of the most famous classic papers in the annals of science, Edwin Hubble's 1929 PNAS article on the observed relation between distance and recession velocity of galaxies—the Hubble Law—unveiled the expanding universe and forever changed our understanding of the cosmosSo the expansion was visibly observed by the Hubble Telescope.Evidence that the Universe was expanding was observed by Edwin Hubble, the Hubble Telescope was launched 60 years later.
So the expansion was visibly observed by the Hubble Telescope.
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@Best.Korea
--> @ShilaI cant say I had a proper childhood since my religious nut job parents believed that masturbation is the greatest crime on Earth and equal to murder.It didnt stop me from masturbating, but I did spend nights in fear wondering if God will punish me.Such things seem funny now, but one must wonder what would be the difference between being free and being protected like that.
Most parent would discourage their children from masturbating religious or not.
The fact it didn’t stop you from masturbating prove masturbating was more important to you than your parents.
But that only works when you are a minor where the parents accept responsibility for not disciplining you.
Now that you are an adult you are fully responsible for your actions.
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@Ehyeh
--> @SidewalkerSpace as we know it to be possesses 4 Dimensions. One of them is time, which we cannot see unless we were in 4D. Which may explain why we cannot understand how it looks for something to be expanding while only expanding into itself while possessing shape. I think Aristotle is wrong for thinking infinites cannot exist, if he believed that. Saying we cannot know is one thing - saying they cannot is another.
The expanding universe was discovered by Hubble.
Did Hubble discover the expanding universe?
In one of the most famous classic papers in the annals of science, Edwin Hubble's 1929 PNAS article on the observed relation between distance and recession velocity of galaxies—the Hubble Law—unveiled the expanding universe and forever changed our understanding of the cosmos
So the expansion was visibly observed by the Hubble Telescope.
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@3RU7AL
--> @ShilaBut you lost your 3 debates. Proof Your logic does not connect.two of those are self-moderated debates
If you cannot succeed with self moderation. You have very little hope going outside your sphere of influence.
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@oromagi
-> @ShilaGO has 15,281 attempts at fake news. Is anyone buying his BS.IlikePie5's entire persona on this site is just liking GP and buying his BS
Wow!!
Can you make a list of members I should avoid? I am new here and don’t know anyone well enough.
Thanks.
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@3RU7AL
--> @ShilaGold was a hedge against inflation. But we have high inflation and gold stocks dropped by 15%.because of the market manipulation
Or was it designed to fool the Indians?
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@3RU7AL
-->@SidewalkerIt was Aristotle that said actual infinities couldn’t exist, so the idea has been around for quite some time. Our best science regarding the subject matter, General Relativity and the resultant Standard Model of Cosmology, are a matter of scientific consensus, and both are quite explicit that an infinite universe contradicts theory.
great point
The expanding universe was discovered by Hubble.
Did Hubble discover the expanding universe?
In one of the most famous classic papers in the annals of science, Edwin Hubble's 1929 PNAS article on the observed relation between distance and recession velocity of galaxies—the Hubble Law—unveiled the expanding universe and forever changed our understanding of the cosmos
So the expansion was visibly observed by the Hubble Telescope.
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@3RU7AL
--> @ShilaSo you would prefer their arguments be reduced to logical connectives?always and forever
But you lost your 3 debates. Proof Your logic does not connect.
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@Double_R
--> @ShilaWho has the advantage promoting the fear of Putin, Republicans or Democrats?Trump tried to be friendly with Putin, Kim Jung and a host of dictators. And yet he lost 2020.Democrats aren't against dictators because they're afraid of them. They're against dictators because they epitomize everything this country was founded against.Republicans used to understand this, and then Trump came along and warped the minds of half the country, which to this day is still his most impressive accomplishment
But Trump demoralized every American institution, looked stupid before the UN body, refused to accept he lost the 2020 elections and now he is going to face charges of fraud, tax evasion, sedition, obstruction of Justice and a mentally unstable.
But is even more embarrassing is half the country picked Trump as their president.
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@Double_R
--> @ShilaSo it’s their argument that still fails even though you accept the basic premise of their position.You just need them to argue their case better.I said I accept their position for the sake of argument.A -> B -> CI don't have to accept A as true in order to show you that B does not -> C
So you would prefer their arguments be reduced to logical connectives?
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--> @ShilaThe valued of gold has dropped. Fortunately India has a robust IT, Pharmaceutical and medical practitioners to make it self reliant.the value of precious metals has been manipulated by market-makers for a very long time
Gold was a hedge against inflation. But we have high inflation and gold stocks dropped by 15%.
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@TWS1405
--> @SkepticalOneLook! It’s a well established story, as is the Disney cartoon movie. Taking the exact same story/movie script and replacing the white chick for a black chick [is] “black washing.” The fact that the character is a mermaid is utterly irrelevant. Why you cannot grasp that simple fact is beyond those of us who disagree with your illogical nonsense.
If Disney has already captured the white audience, by black washing the heroes it hopes to capture the black audience as well.
The problem only surfaces when the black cast is nominated the Oscar and receives higher ratings.
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@Double_R
--> @ShilaBut getting elected puts them in positions where they have to answer to the people that helped elect them.Wh6 are Americans working against their own best interests?It's a cycle.Republican voters respond to fear and are very easy to trigger, so politicians see an opportunity to further their careers by proclaiming that they will stand up against any threats.But if there are no threats then there's nothing to stand up against, so republican politician's make them up or just play into made up ones that are gaining steam.And because the politicians are playing into them, they gain more steam, thus validating the fears of their voters.And because the fears of these voters are now validated, they go out and vote for any politician standing up against the corresponding threat.And on it goes...
Who has the advantage promoting the fear of Putin, Republicans or Democrats?
Trump tried to be friendly with Putin, Kim Jung and a host of dictators. And yet he lost 2020.
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@Best.Korea
--> @ADreamOfLibertyIt seems that just googling "do children masturbate" is enough to find a bunch of sites that all claim the same: Yes.They all agree that even babies and toddlers masturbateNotice that in almost every link, masturbation is described as something that upsets parents. So children dont even have freedom to masturbate in peace.Now, since children are protected from knowledge, and when they discover the knowledge they are punished and put to shame, surely even worse will apply if they are in a relationship.This site seems to imply there was a case of loving relationship.When discovered, the first thing that happened was that the person who discovered it told everyone about it. Then everyone was very upset because of this "love". Since a girl didnt seem to agree with them, one of the suggested solutions was to bring her into counseling so that she could be convinced to agree.
Interesting links.
I can see how parents misread their infant’s actions.
When infants as young as 5 months like to suck their thumb. Parents think they need a pacifier. But based on your studies they are actually looking for sexual stimulation and are old enough to actually suck a penis or lick a vagina.
Any wonder most Koreans are so sexually liberated.
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