Shila

Polytheist _Witch: Alternating the DNA of the fetus is not the mother doing what it wants to its body eventually the child will be born with an alteration. If the mother drinks while pregnant and the child is born addicted to alcohol the mother is guilty of a crime because the child is born. The child is born genetically altered the child is born. You seem to be confused about what a born person is and what a not born person is.

--> @oromagi

Internet does seem to a big factor in social dysfunction.

Millennials and Gen Zers also face more economic insecurity compared to older generations. They have less opportunities to make it with their careers and move away from home early on in life. I'd say that probably contributes to more sexless men and women. 

Polytheist _Witch: --> @Shila

Don't tell me food's not taxed I pay tax at restaurants and I pay a 1% sales tax for my food which used to be 6% sales tax until the state reduced it.

--> @cristo71

It amazes me that some Americans are so ignorant that it took Trump for them to realize democracy was all messed up and that entrenched people in DC are the ones that have mattered for 8 decades.

--> @Shila

Die you fucking cunt

--> @Shila

All it takes is just one distant DISTANT relative of a former slave who got an education, was married before having kids, acquires a job then had kids and has become successful in America blows out any so-called PC committee to find excuses for black wanton failure. 

--> @Shila

Ah.

So, your measure of class is based upon solely upon wealth.

Whereas my measure of class is based upon a broader application of intellect.

So, for example.

An extremely rich anti-social dickhead would lack class.

Whereas an extremely rich altruist would be classy.

One could also apply the same criteria to not so well-off people.

Class is also apparent in style, deportment and a raft of other characteristics.

You are just categorising people relative to poverty indicators.

Thanks to the "Wests" reliance upon cheap Chinese exports and cheap labour.

So, whilst there are still people doing the donkey work for peanuts all will be fine and dandy.

Therein lies contradictory logic.

Or illogic.

Or a misconception.

I'm not certain that the Chinese authorities will allow the bubble to completely burst.

What say you?

Nivuce_II: I just don't understand this dialogue method.

Person A: "You need to work on your punctuation, not to mention grammar."

Person B: "What mistakes do you think I'm making?"

Person A: "I refuse to answer actually, but just stop because the mistakes exist."

-> @3RU7AL

did you catch the part where they passed a law to INCREASE the royal allowance by 10X ?

No I didn’t but the video’s title “The Queen doesn’t want you to know this” complete with an emoji limited its credibility for me.

 

If it is talking about the Sovereign Grant, the amount that is paid is decided upon and authorised by Prime Minister, the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Keeper of the Privy Purse, I don’t think the Monarch has a say in it.

--> @TWS1405

lol

You seem to be totally ignorant of the fact that *every* criticism you have in response to other people applies with complete accuracy to you. 

Fools will be fools, though. 

What is truth? How do you know if you see it?

--> @3RU7AL

How do you measure exist, do you have an exist-o-meter

--> @Novice_II

So do we agree that we should be able to prevent people from doing at least some things with their body? 

We already went through this. In fact we, or at least I, was way past that.

Yes. Get to your point.

If a group of people wanted to found a new nation,

I'd be okay with them making eugenics one of their principles,

'Depending on 'how the eugenics was implemented.

I wonder a bit if it'd be effective though,

Beauty being subjective,

Though one 'might be able to bring up 'near universal preferences, that they'd argue humanity would be better without.

--> @TWS1405

Novice_II: 

• Interesting, but not sure what to tell you here. 
  

--> @Shila

Reparations from who though.

Everyone is dead and society moved on.

As I said, all you are really advocating is Blacky v Whitey for cash.

So, someone might have a great great great great great Aunt or Uncle who was sold into slavery in the distant past.

So, I might have an ancestor who was enslaved by the Romans in the distant past.

Would I not deserve Italian cash?

You're just cherry picking one bit of World history and social development and hoping to cash in on it.

Rather than doing reasonably well at school and getting a proper job. (Not you personally, I hasten to add. Hopefully you did/or will do reasonably well at school and will get/got a proper job)

As might do "Native Indians" (of course Native Indians were only native for as long as they were native)who previously colonised the Land masses of the Americas.

People moved East and people moved West and the world became colonised and recolonised.

So, perhaps everyone deserves a slice of the reparations pie.

--> @Shila

Again, it's a pretty obvious implication, if you could read what I said. I'm not interested in debating semantics.

I gave a response about how dumb this thread is, and here you are creating one of the dumbest arguments in site history. If you could get that 'specific wording' stick out of your ass, you would see that.

I'm done here.

--> @Shila

All gods are applicable to atheists. That includes the jealous God in the Bible.

Define atheist Shi.

--> @IwantRooseveltagain

I do. I can't believe I actually have to pull out a dictionary here, I thought people on this site would be past that.

con·fir·ma·tion bi·as

Learn to pronounce

noun

1. the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories.
   

In this case, the new evidence is this divorce, the existing belief is your "MTG = bad" belief. There ya go.

--> @Polytheist-Witch

Novuce_II:

• Okay, so amidst all this, your answer was yes. That is all I am interested in. Now, the reductio I will use here is not complex, and I was assuming we could deliberate around a few different ones. 
  
• Do you think one should be hypothetically allowed to genetically modify an unborn to be a serial 
  

-> @TWS1405

There just are too, far too many fucking UGLY people in this world.

Is that why you guys wear the white sheets?

--> @TWS1405

Nivice_II: Do you believe a person should be allowed to do anything to his/herself regardless of if she has an unborn inside of her while pregnant? 

“Ummm, technically, you said stupid people are annoying. He never said that.” 🤓 

It’s heavily implied this person is annoyed by stupid people, given his hatred and “zero tolerance” for stupid people, coupled with the fact he made a thread dedicated to it. Be real.

-> @Mharman

LMAOOOOO

So you are laughing your ass off off off off off?

--> @Shila

• You shall have no other God's before me.
  
• Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images. ... 
  
• Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. ... 
  
• Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy. ... 
  
• Honor your father and mother. ... 
  
• Thou shalt not kill. ... 
  
• Thou shalt not commit adultery. ... 
  
• Thou shalt not steal.
  
• You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
  
• You shall not covet.
  

phenomenal, 100% true

but, how does this relate to practical matters like wickard v. filburn ?

Novice_II:

The 14th amendment does not seem to be an argument. It appears to necessitate using the negative inference fallacy as just because citizenship is given at birth, does not mean that unborns should not be given personhood. How about this, do you have a normative ethical argument for personhood beginning at birth?

--> @Shila

wtf?

--> @Shila

Germany didn't have supply chain shortages and inflation. But they still concluded the Jews were the problem.

Should you be on medication or something?

--> @Shila

That is good for you

--> @Shila

I really do not care about my debating record. Heck, I didn’t even show up for most of the debates. Pardon me for having more things to do with my life than be in this site constantly. I don’t have the same time I used to, and I haven’t for a while.

--> @Shila

It exist outside the mind existing in the real world.

OBJECTIVE meaning: 1 : based on facts rather than feelings or opinions not influenced by feelings; 2 : existing outside of the mind existing in the real world 

what are a few examples of "moral facts" ?

--> @Shila

See that thread title? Read it out loud to yourself. The read the OP out loud to yourself. Then realize I am replying to the OP.

--> @TWS1405

Great insight. What an amazing revelation it is that stupid people are annoying to deal with. With this newly discovered knowledge, society can finally move forward to becoming a utopia. Thank you. May we all build statues in your honor.

I'm currently in college, you dolt. Also, it's pretty dumb to flex a degree in the air and act like you're superior to others simply because you made a different career choice. There are many people who are decide not to go to college and still become successful. Some of whom are far more successful than you and I ever will be.

Novice_II:

• I want to press here a little, because I am not sure why you won't answer this question. Here is its relevance: you stated, that an unborn at any stage of pregnancy has no rights because it is a non-person. So, I am curious. If you also argue that an unborn person has no rights. I assume that is (a) because they are non persons or (b) some other reason. 
  
• If a, this would commit your normative ethical view to asserting that no non-persons should have rights. 
  
• If b, I would like an argument as to what determines whether a non-person has rights or not. 
  

Polytheist _Witch: Sales tax on it all goods but food and used item 

--> @Shila

because i'm trying to figure out

why it matters if morality is "objective"

in practical terms

It would mean morality is the same for everyone because it is objective.

where is the "one true standard" ?

is it perhaps written down somewhere ?

--> @TWS1405

Great insight. What an amazing revelation it is that stupid people are annoying to deal with. With this newly discovered knowledge, society can finally move forward to becoming a utopia. Thank you. May we all build statues in your honor.

You [are] boring, hence the 🥱

--> @Shila

For the record, each and every time you make a completely uneducated comment directed at me, I shall ignore it. 

I have neither the time nor patience to entertain your ignorance

--> @Mharman

EDIT: And no, me calling you out on your idiocy is not ad hominem attack. Your idiocy does not make you wrong. What makes you wrong is stated above. Also, are you contending I am wrong because I'm not done with college yet?

Ya, it’s an ad hominem. People who are always crying ad hominem are rarely honest about their own ad hominems. Saying “your idiocy” is no different than calling me an idiot.

No, I’m contending you are an idiot (and a loser) because you are not a college graduate.

Illogic and ignorance are often a simple thing to many.

Born people making autonomous choices to harm themselves and/or others who are also already born persons has absolutely nothing to do with the abortion debate/discussion. 

-> @Shila

I just want the economy to improve.

And you think Jews are responsible for the supply chain shortages and inflation? That would be nuts.

--> @Tarik

i'm asking if "objective morality" can be applied to the real-world

Why are you asking me this?

because i'm trying to figure out

why it matters if morality is "objective"

in practical terms

--> @Double_R

Novice_II: Well, people can use their body to do many things, such as committing rape, or jumping off a bridge etc. Anything logically possible. 

I am sure we can agree that people should be prevented from doing some things using their body, so I am just asking for the argument as to why abortion is not one of those things. It seems quite simple to me.