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@bmdrocks21
--> @oromagiYou may have given me much to reflect on, based on a cursory glance of the info
The real test is finding a mermaid.
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Polytheist _Witch: At this point I don't believe you're American.You post paragraphs of shit but you have no idea that people pay tax on certain things. Well there's another indication who you actually are.
The purchase of goods for further manufacture or for resale is uniformly exempt from sales tax. Most jurisdictions exempt food sold in grocery stores, prescription medications, and many agricultural supplies. Sales taxes, including those imposed by local governments, are generally administered at the state level.
"Thirteen of the 45 states with a sales tax still impose it on groceries."
State policymakers looking to make their tax codes more equitable should consider eliminating the sales taxes families pay on groceries if they haven’t already done so, or at least reducing these taxes or partially offsetting them through a tax credit.[1] Thirteen of the 45 states with a sales tax still impose it on groceries. (See Figure 1.) Of those, ten offer a lower tax rate for groceries than the general sales tax rate or provide a tax credit to offset some or all of the sales tax on groceries. Only Alabama, Mississippi, and South Dakota still tax groceries at the full state sales tax rate.
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@Best.Korea
--> @ShilaUSA didnt. So thats 330 million people.
Regulation of corporal punishment in public and private schools is done at the state level. There is no federal policy regarding corporal punishment in schools.[35] In 1977, the Supreme Court of the United States found that the Eighth Amendment clause prohibiting "cruel and unusual punishments" did not apply to school students, and that teachers could punish children without parental permission.[34]
The ban of corporal punishment use even at schools has still yet to be achieved in the USA. In 2022 not all 50 states made the practice unlawful. Since the 1970s, 31 states and the District of Columbia have banned corporal punishment in public schools, though in some of these there is no explicit prohibition. Corporal punishment is also unlawful in private schools in Iowa and New Jersey. In the remaining 19 U.S. states there was not any ban, and corporal punishment is lawful in both public and private schools.
Can a parent go to jail for hitting a child?
Repeatedly using force against you or another child for discipline or correction could amount to domestic violence. If the police charge them, they may be convicted of the crime if they are found guilty.
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A women's right to choose was legal for 50 years. If it was moral then, there is no reason why it is not moral today. So essentially the banning of Rove V. Wade was political and not based on moral grounds.
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@Stephen
--> @ShilaThe truth is Jesus was rejected. The crowd picked Barabbas.Why?That is a good question. But we have to notice that Barabbas 's full name was Jesus BarabbasSo when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, “Which one do you want me to release to you: Jesus Barabbas, or Jesus who is called the Messiah?”Matthew 27:17It is quite difficult to imagine that Pilate would release a known war mongering zealot "who had committed murder in the insurrection.” What insurrection one may well ask? The only nuisance that seemed to be mentioned in scripture is where Jesus over turned the tables.
That is why Pilate left the choice up to crowds to pick who they wanted to be crucified. They picked Jesus not Barabbas.
Unless of course this was something a lot worse than scripture is letting on and the authors are trying to play it down to nothing more than a hissy fit on Jesus' part. Which I believe they are.
The insurrection was evidenced by the crowds demanding Jesus be crucified. The Romans were concerned it would escalate into a riot and insurrection.
Luke 23:21 But they kept shouting, “Crucify him! Crucify him!”
The bible does say "another man that had committed insurrection with him".
That is why Pilate left the choice up to crowds to pick who they wanted to be crucified. They picked Jesus not Barabbas.
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@zedvictor4
--> @ShilaThat's the funny thing.No one knows who or what Jesus actually was.
The Bible and 2 billion Christians can tell you what Jesus actually was.
That's assuming that he actually existed.
That Jesus was a historical figure has long been settled.
The reliability of subsequent hand me down tales will inevitably be questionable.
It has been questioned but not refuted. 2 billion Christians can attest to that.
Best case is that he was a bloke who gave a lot of credence to the Idea of supernatural entity/deity, so much so that he considered himself the son of a GOD.
You are finally coming along just like the rest did.
Which if you think about it, was a reasonable conclusion for any theistically/deistically inspired person.
Now you are even affirming it was a reasonable conclusion for any theistically/deistically inspired person.
And if he was charismatic enough, he could undoubtedly inspire others to follow.
He certainly was charismatic. 2 billion Christians inspire others to follow.
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@3RU7AL
so how does "objective morality" help me get to heaven ?how does "objective morality" help me make practical decisions ?
Deuteronomy 11:26-28 sums it up like this: "Obey and you will be blessed. Disobey and you will be cursed." In the New Testament, we learn through the example of Jesus Christ that believers are called to a life of obedience.
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Novice_II:Does the mother have the right to decide to remove a human being from her body, even when she was the one that placed them there, in a state where the human being is temporarily dependent on her for its survival?
If you understood conception and procreation you would know the mother does not place a human being in her body. And once in her body the baby is dependent on her for its survival.
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Polytheist _Witch: I don't care what you think I was not talking to you. Just because religion supports marriage doesn't mean marriage is a religious institution, jackass.
Poll shows rise in belief that marriage is a religious institution
A new survey shows an increase in likely U.S. voters who see marriage as a religious institution, with a majority now holding this view.
Rasmussen Reports' Dec. 22 national survey of 1,000 U.S. likely voters found that a majority – 53 percent of respondents – said marriage is a religious institution. This is an increase from 48 percent in October. Another 40 percent saw marriage as a civil institution, down from 45 percent in October.
About 77 percent of respondents said they are married or have been at some point in their lives. This correlated to their views of the institution.
About 57 percent of ever-married respondents said marriage is a religious institution, while the never-married tended to see it as a civil institution.
A large majority of Republicans and a small majority of unaffiliated voters said marriage is a religious institution, while a small majority of Democrats said it is civil in nature. Men and respondents over 40 were more likely to say marriage is religious.
Respondents also gave their views on the relationship between marriage and having children.
About 73 percent of respondents said it is important or very important to be married before having children. Another 25 percent said that marriage is not a precondition for parenthood, an increase from 20 percent in a previous survey.
Ever-married respondents were far more likely to stress the importance of marriage before children than the unmarried, Rasmussen Reports said.
The survey suggests marriage is highly valued in the U.S.
Seventy-nine percent of respondents said marriage is somewhat or very important to society, with 55 percent ranking it very important.
The survey found that 45 percent of respondents opposed "gay marriage," while 42 percent favored it.
In October, the pollster's survey found voters evenly split on the question at 44 percent each. However, the apparent changes are still within the survey's margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percent.
Views about the nature of marriage appear to correlate to views on "gay marriage." About 71 percent of those who said marriage is a religious institution oppose "gay marriage," while 75 percent of those who said it is a civil institution favor marriage redefinition.
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@Best.Korea
--> @Shila63 out of 190 have banned, yes.So how much, 30%?
Most of the advanced countries have banned corporal punishment of children.
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--> @ShilaLike uncovering whose alt you are.
I don’t know anyone on DebateArt. I am also new to a Religion Forum. But I did find other religion forums over proselytizing and decided to try DebateArt. I haven’t received any feedback so I must be doing ok.
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@Best.Korea
63 countries, mostly in Europe and Latin America, have banned the practice. School corporal punishment, of students by teachers or school administrators, such as caning or paddling, has been banned in many countries, including Canada, Kenya, South Africa, India, New Zealand and all of Europe.
What country has the highest rate of corporal punishment?
The MENA region has some of the highest levels of corporal punishment in the world. Surveys have found that more than 90 percent of children suffer physical punishment at least once a month in countries like Egypt, Morocco, and Tunisia, while the lowest rate – 50 percent – was in Qatar
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--> @Polytheist-WitchDo you acknowledge that it is a logical contradiction to state that someone "can and cannot do whatever they want with their body when pregnant." Yes or no, is that a logical contradiction?
The mother can do anything like wear makeup, get a haircut, clip her nails or any other action so long as it does not endanger the unborn child she is carrying. Post #73.
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@3RU7AL
-> @ShilaThe Queen is dead. Let her Rest In Peace.
That won’t wake up the Queen either.
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--> @ShilaPolytheist ¥Witch: Sales tax has nothing to do with service it has to do with sales. You don't pay sales tax on a massage because there's a service involved you pay sales tax because a product was sold. Fucking idiot.
The purchase of goods for further manufacture or for resale is uniformly exempt from sales tax. Most jurisdictions exempt food sold in grocery stores, prescription medications, and many agricultural supplies. Sales taxes, including those imposed by local governments, are generally administered at the state level.
"Thirteen of the 45 states with a sales tax still impose it on groceries."
State policymakers looking to make their tax codes more equitable should consider eliminating the sales taxes families pay on groceries if they haven’t already done so, or at least reducing these taxes or partially offsetting them through a tax credit.[1] Thirteen of the 45 states with a sales tax still impose it on groceries. (See Figure 1.) Of those, ten offer a lower tax rate for groceries than the general sales tax rate or provide a tax credit to offset some or all of the sales tax on groceries. Only Alabama, Mississippi, and South Dakota still tax groceries at the full state sales tax rate.
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Polytheist _Witch: Marriage doesn't really have anything to do with religion. I have no idea what a reduction in religion would have to do with marriage
Religion actually supports marriage as an institution. Muslims are allowed 4 wives.
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Polytheist _Witch: Alternating the DNA of the fetus is not the mother doing what it wants to its body eventually the child will be born with an alteration. If the mother drinks while pregnant and the child is born addicted to alcohol the mother is guilty of a crime because the child is born. The child is born genetically altered the child is born. You seem to be confused about what a born person is and what a not born person is.
The mother can do anything like wear makeup, get a haircut, clip her nails or any other action so long as it does not endanger the unborn child she is carrying. Post #73.
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@CoolApe
--> @oromagiInternet does seem to a big factor in social dysfunction.Millennials and Gen Zers also face more economic insecurity compared to older generations. They have less opportunities to make it with their careers and move away from home early on in life. I'd say that probably contributes to more sexless men and women.
The demand for pornography on the internet is growing.
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Polytheist _Witch: --> @ShilaDon't tell me food's not taxed I pay tax at restaurants and I pay a 1% sales tax for my food which used to be 6% sales tax until the state reduced it.
You are paying for service.
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@Greyparrot
--> @cristo71It amazes me that some Americans are so ignorant that it took Trump for them to realize democracy was all messed up and that entrenched people in DC are the ones that have mattered for 8 decades.
Putting Trump in jail with prove to all Americans they are not above the law.
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@sadolite
--> @ShilaDie you fucking cunt
You need a millstone around your neck to control your mental illness.
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@TWS1405
--> @ShilaAll it takes is just one distant DISTANT relative of a former slave who got an education, was married before having kids, acquires a job then had kids and has become successful in America blows out any so-called PC committee to find excuses for black wanton failure.
Do you know how much is the life of a black man worth in Minneapolis?
The city of Minneapolis has reached a $27 million civil settlement with the family of George Floyd, the Black man whose death in police custody.
Now try to understand why white Americans are not for reparation.
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@zedvictor4
--> @ShilaAh.So, your measure of class is based upon solely upon wealth.Whereas my measure of class is based upon a broader application of intellect.So, for example.An extremely rich anti-social dickhead would lack class.Whereas an extremely rich altruist would be classy.One could also apply the same criteria to not so well-off people.Class is also apparent in style, deportment and a raft of other characteristics.You are just categorising people relative to poverty indicators.Thanks to the "Wests" reliance upon cheap Chinese exports and cheap labour.So, whilst there are still people doing the donkey work for peanuts all will be fine and dandy.Therein lies contradictory logic.Or illogic.Or a misconception.I'm not certain that the Chinese authorities will allow the bubble to completely burst.What say you?
By 2027, we estimate that 1.2 billion Chinese will be in the middle class, making up one quarter of the world total. China already makes up the largest middle-class consumption market segment in the world and is a priority market for major multinational firms.Oct 1
The percentage of middle class in China compared to the rest of its population is?
85.7 %.
Now compare that to other countries.
What is the percentage of middle class in America?
Sociologists Dennis Gilbert, Willam Thompson and Joseph Hickey estimate the middle class to constitute roughly 15% of the population.
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Nivuce_II: I just don't understand this dialogue method.Person A: "You need to work on your punctuation, not to mention grammar."Person B: "What mistakes do you think I'm making?"Person A: "I refuse to answer actually, but just stop because the mistakes exist."
If you don’t recognize your own mistakes. You might need special help.
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@Elliott
-> @3RU7ALdid you catch the part where they passed a law to INCREASE the royal allowance by 10X ?No I didn’t but the video’s title “The Queen doesn’t want you to know this” complete with an emoji limited its credibility for me.If it is talking about the Sovereign Grant, the amount that is paid is decided upon and authorised by Prime Minister, the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Keeper of the Privy Purse, I don’t think the Monarch has a say in it.
The Queen is dead. Let her Rest In Peace.
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Trump packed the boxes returned to National Archives in January HIMSELF and one of his lawyers refused his request to say all documents had been turned over to federal agency
- Donald Trump personally packed up the 15 boxes of documents that his office returned to the National Archives in January
- Detail revealed in new bombshell report from Washington Post
- Report also noted Trump asked one of his lawyers to tell the National Archives and Records Administration that his team had returned all the requested records
- Alex Cannon, the attorney, refused because he was not sure that was true
- August raid by feds revealed more than 11,000 records, including about 100 documents marked as classified, had remained in Mar-a-Lago
This proves Trump knowingly and selectively hid the classified documents he wanted and packed what he did not need to the National Archives.
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@ahiyah
--> @TWS1405lolYou seem to be totally ignorant of the fact that *every* criticism you have in response to other people applies with complete accuracy to you.Fools will be fools, though.
You made a good point.
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Marriage is the oldest institution in the world. From the studies presented that institution is in trouble.
Sex outside marriage is as old as the institution of marriage. Hope that is not threatened too.
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You guys should give up trying to define or understand objectivity. Besides none of you can be objective given your subjective biases against each other.
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@Tradesecret
What is truth? How do you know if you see it?
The same question was raised by Pilate in John 18.
John 18:38 “What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him. 39 But it is your custom for me to release to you one prisoner at the time of the Passover. Do you want me to release ‘the king of the Jews’?”
40 They shouted back, “No, not him! Give us Barabbas!” Now Barabbas had taken part in an uprising.
40 They shouted back, “No, not him! Give us Barabbas!” Now Barabbas had taken part in an uprising.
The truth is Jesus was rejected. The crowd picked Barabbas.
Why?
Isaiah 53:3 He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.
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@Sidewalker
--> @3RU7ALHow do you measure exist, do you have an exist-o-meter
Answer Double_R.
“Let me know when you have something intelligent to say.”
Answer 3RU7AL:
“are you familiar with physics and engineering ?”
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@Double_R
--> @Novice_IISo do we agree that we should be able to prevent people from doing at least some things with their body?We already went through this. In fact we, or at least I, was way past that.Yes. Get to your point.
He should start by getting some body tattoos.
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@Lemming
If a group of people wanted to found a new nation,I'd be okay with them making eugenics one of their principles,'Depending on 'how the eugenics was implemented.I wonder a bit if it'd be effective though,Beauty being subjective,Though one 'might be able to bring up 'near universal preferences, that they'd argue humanity would be better without.
Blacks and Asians don’t have a big disparity in appearance. They all have the same appearance that defines them as black and Asians.
But among whites there is a huge disparity from beautiful to ugly and even freaky. Why?
Genetics point to the Neanderthal DNA influence in whites.
“Which Europeans have the most Neanderthal genes?
Contemporary Europeans have as many as three times more Neanderthal variants in genes involved in lipid catabolism than Asians and Africans.”
Eugenics was seen as the only hope to improve the appearance of white race.
“While eugenic principles have been practiced as early as ancient Greece, the contemporary history of eugenics began in the late 19th century, when a popular eugenics movement emerged in the United Kingdom, and then spread to many countries, including the United States, Canada, Australia, and most European countries.”
“In the United States the eugenics movement began during the Progressive Era and remained active through 1940”
But Eugenics was not successful at weeding out the ugly and freaky whites. There were just too many of them.
This is when it was decided to let in immigrants from Asian and African countries to create a more balanced appearance of western countries. Asians and blacks compensate for what is missing in white people which is simple natural beauty. Majority of whites need breast and booty augmentation, plastic surgery, Botox dental implants etc. to remove the Neanderthal in them because eugenics is an extremely slow process and not guaranteed either.
But there are others like TWS1405 who still advocate eugenics to control white degenerates. Sad but true!!
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- Interesting, but not sure what to tell you here.
It doesn’t get any better.
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@zedvictor4
--> @ShilaReparations from who though.Everyone is dead and society moved on.As I said, all you are really advocating is Blacky v Whitey for cash.So, someone might have a great great great great great Aunt or Uncle who was sold into slavery in the distant past.So, I might have an ancestor who was enslaved by the Romans in the distant past.Would I not deserve Italian cash?You're just cherry picking one bit of World history and social development and hoping to cash in on it.Rather than doing reasonably well at school and getting a proper job. (Not you personally, I hasten to add. Hopefully you did/or will do reasonably well at school and will get/got a proper job)As might do "Native Indians" (of course Native Indians were only native for as long as they were native)who previously colonised the Land masses of the Americas.People moved East and people moved West and the world became colonised and recolonised.So, perhaps everyone deserves a slice of the reparations pie.
All the details are being studied.
In April, the House Judiciary Committee held a historic vote on H.R. 40, a bill that would create a federal commission to study “the lingering negative effects of the institution of slavery” in the U.S. — looking at various forms of “economic, political, educational, and social discrimination” — and to develop proposals for “appropriate remedies,” including potential reparations for Black Americans. First introduced by late Michigan Rep. John Conyers in 1989, the bill was finally approved by the judiciary committee and now awaits a vote on the floor of the House of Representatives.
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@Mharman
--> @ShilaAgain, it's a pretty obvious implication, if you could read what I said. I'm not interested in debating semantics.I gave a response about how dumb this thread is, and here you are creating one of the dumbest arguments in site history. If you could get that 'specific wording' stick out of your ass, you would see that.I'm done here.
You said you were replying to the OP which was started by TWS1405.
But you are attacking everyone because you are annoyed to be debating semantics. Get on topic!!
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@Tarik
--> @ShilaAll gods are applicable to atheists. That includes the jealous God in the Bible.Define atheist Shi.
Atheist definition: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
That includes all gods including the jealous God in the Bible.
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@Mharman
--> @IwantRooseveltagainI do. I can't believe I actually have to pull out a dictionary here, I thought people on this site would be past that.con·fir·ma·tion bi·asLearn to pronouncenoun
Take the advice go back to college and get a decent education.
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- Okay, so amidst all this, your answer was yes. That is all I am interested in. Now, the reductio I will use here is not complex, and I was assuming we could deliberate around a few different ones.
- Do you think one should be hypothetically allowed to genetically modify an unborn to be a serial
Eugenics has already achieved that. The white race is heading towards their third world war with the war in Ukraine dragging all the white countries to join in the conflict.
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@Sidewalker
-> @TWS1405There just are too, far too many fucking UGLY people in this world.Is that why you guys wear the white sheets?
That us how they remain united. Ugly but still white.
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--> @TWS1405Nivice_II: Do you believe a person should be allowed to do anything to his/herself regardless of if she has an unborn inside of her while pregnant?
She can do anything like wear makeup, get a haircut, clip her nails or any other action so long as it does not endanger the unborn child she is carrying.
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@Mharman
“Ummm, technically, you said stupid people are annoying. He never said that.” 🤓It’s heavily implied this person is annoyed by stupid people, given his hatred and “zero tolerance” for stupid people, coupled with the fact he made a thread dedicated to it. Be real.
TWS1405 did not say he found stupid people annoying.He said, “I hate Stupid People.”
Hate and annoying are two different reactions.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
-> @MharmanLMAOOOOOSo you are laughing your ass off off off off off?
That happens when his ass goes out of control when he laughs. You made him lose control.
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@3RU7AL
--> @Shila
- You shall have no other God's before me.
- Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images. ...
- Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. ...
- Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy. ...
- Honor your father and mother. ...
- Thou shalt not kill. ...
- Thou shalt not commit adultery. ...
- Thou shalt not steal.
- You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
- You shall not covet.
phenomenal, 100% truebut, how does this relate to practical matters like wickard v. filburn ?
Romans 13:1-2 says: "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the law of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow."
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Novice_II:The 14th amendment does not seem to be an argument. It appears to necessitate using the negative inference fallacy as just because citizenship is given at birth, does not mean that unborns should not be given personhood. How about this, do you have a normative ethical argument for personhood beginning at birth?
TWS1495 replies: t is NOT a negative inference fallacy; you're simply not reading/interpreting the 14th correctly, as is the case for all non-legally educated people always doing.
Rights for Every Newborn
These include the rights to survival, health and development; to a legal identity from birth; to be protected from harm, violence and neglect; and to a caring, loving and nurturing environment – even in humanitarian and fragile settings.
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@Ehyeh
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Eugenics can also be applied to unknown gender types like you.
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