Shila

--> @Shila

No, more I just find it fun to imagine what I might build on various land, or life I would live in various houses, locations.

Even if I bought one location, other locations and different lives would still be there,

So it's more about the daydream, than making actionable plans in life.

--> @Tejretics

Philosophy is either common sense or overthink padded out with a lot of hiss.

--> @Shila

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/13/these-are-americas-10-most-expensive-states-to-live-in.html

How bad is California’s housing shortage? A 2015 study by the state’s Legislative Analyst found that the state has been building about 110,000 fewer units than the amount needed to keep up with demand. And California has been doing this for more than 30 years! That adds up to a shortage of around 3.5 million housing units and counting. And that translates to higher prices. A 2,400 square foot home in San Francisco will cost around $1.4 million if you’re lucky. The same house in Phoenix, a metro area about the same size, might go for around $400,000. And don’t get us started on the gas prices, the highest in the nation. 

2022 Cost of Living Score: 3 out of 50 points (Top States Grade: F)

Consumer Price Index (May, West Region): UP 8.3%

Average Home Price (San Francisco): $1,396,782

Half Gallon of Milk: $2.55

Monthly Energy Bill: $266.44

--> @Shila

They begin fighting in different venues to gain recognition till they get to the top.

SkepticalOne: Right...

--> @Shila

Is that how you keep your grandchildren stupid so you can read their books?

 They, like you just love fantasy and fiction. .   That is why I recommended the New Testament to them. They of course they grew up and out of it like most level-headed people do.  

You on the other hand haven't got past the belief of a dead, three days old, rotting stinking corpse of a man coming back to life, stage.

And you never will if your posts concerning the bible are anything to go by.

--> @RationalMadman

Sure, buddy

Just telling you the Google results.

Putting the term "RationalMoron" in quotations causes it to look for pages with that specific term, using site:debateart.com limits the results to urls that include 'debateart.com'.

Combining the two and it has Google look for any instances of the term "RationalMoron" on a website with 'debateart.com' in the url.

Always possibly that Google missed something, but it makes it easy to cut down on a long search if you know the term you are looking for. Even checked for "Rational Moron" and got nothing. So, maybe Google is missing it, maybe you are misremembering the term, or maybe something else entirely

Sometimes I find it fun to look through land, houses for sale.

He is talking about Red replacement theory. Lots of POC conservatives live in Red States. Most of them are against an open border. Especially when they have to pay for an open border.

JoJo , an “open border” by definition means people are not being processed by the relevant agencies. That  obviously is not what is happening  or they wouldn’t be getting transferred by authorities in Texas and Florida.

You are talking about White Replacement Theory, correct?

He is talking about Red replacement theory. Lots of POC conservatives live in Red States. Most of them are against an open border.

--> @Barney

I have never spoken a lie, this statement is quite truthful. 

-->@Reece101

Will you tell me the truth?

I will lie truthfully. Except for when I choose to share the truth dishonestly.

--> @Tejretics

The only one I would stand up and fight about is me having a moral obligation to help other people in need. Its to vague. There are many people I would just let die where they stand for numerous different reasons.  For instance I would not lift one finger to help a pedophile. They need to die the most slow agonizing death imaginable. 

-> @RationalMadman

If you Google "RationalMoron" site:debateart.com then this page is the only one that comes up, which means that the term 'RationalMoron' cannot be found anywhere on this website but this thread (at least, this is the only thread Google can find). So, if Shila did call you a moron elsewhere, it would likely not be in the form of 'RationalMoron'.

New cars should be direct-to-consumer.  And used cars, just use a private seller.

The two main flaws of dealerships:

• Significantly higher markup compared to private sellers.  Expect to pay 30% more, which doesn't sound like a lot.  But essentially, if you spend $15k on a car at a dealership, you get a car you could've gotten for $5k at a dealership.
  
• Dishonesty and ethical concerns.  Pedophiles, murderers and rapists are the only thing preventing car salesmen from being on the lowest-rung of the moral totem pole.
  

Also, the benefits of car dealerships aren't actually benefits:

• "They provide customer service".  They waste hours of your time: chatting with you, making you wait in the waiting room while they talk to their manager, negotiating prices that they set artificially high, knowing they'll waste your time.  You're paying money to waste 3-5 hours of your time.  They don't help you get a product; they're just a barrier in the way of getting a product
  
• "They can provide knowledge and help you compare cars".   You can find this information online, and get more detailed information (stats, features, reviews, etc).  And there's less potential conflict of interest when learning from an independent party compared to learning from people who are trying to sell you their product.
  
• "They inspect their cars, unlike private sellers".  But there's a chance their inspection wasn't thorough enough.  You always assume that risk.  Either way, you get an independent mechanic to look at the car.   Them inspecting it doesn't change your decision whatsoever.
  

--> @Shila

Pugilists stand in the same boxing ring because fighting from different venues is pointless. 

This actually helps DeSantis.  Publicity is publicity.  

Literally anything to distract voters from Florida's faltering economy and cost of living will help him.

--> @Shila

the BMI overestimates fatness and health risks for Black people. Meanwhile, according to the World Health Organization, the BMI underestimates health risks for Asian communities,

This is true.  But it doesn't necessarily negate the fact that most people are fat.  This may apply in borderline cases, but even if you subtract 2 BMI from someone who is obese, they're still obese or overweight.

-> @Athias

My cousin recommended the "A Song of Ice and Fire" series to me in the 90's and I wanted nothing to do with it because I wasn't much of a fantasy reader.

Very rare for me to read fiction. But I was bought the books as a present by the grandchildren for Christmas, ( I felt obligated to read them) but was quite surprised to find that there is quite a lot of British and other history woven through the books/ series of the G of T. The red wedding was inspired by the black wedding that happened in Scotland. War of the Roses is another.

 The tv series fell off for me after Season 4 and didn't compare to the books in any way. I have read that the two producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, aka Dumb & Dumber ran out of material? hard to believe considering the books runs into what seem like a billion of pages.

It didn't help that the author pissed off to write masses of other stuff before completing Song of Ice and Fire.... which still hasn't been completed. The dedicated ardent fans must feel cheated.

Won't bother with this new woke shite called House of The Dragon. FKN woke brigade just can't leave fk all alone, can they.

--> @Shila

I hate slavery so I am anti-white. Slave owners were white, so I must hate white people.

Slavery was practiced all around the world by various other races, not just White people. You have unfairly targeted Whites. 

That makes whites as low as other races.

You originally said: "slave owners were white". You've now implicitly conceded that other races also enslaved: "as low as other races".

Hence, you've demonstrated that you unfairly targeted Whites.

Also, White people were the first race to push for the end of slavery.

Whites ended slavery after sleeping with slaves became fashionable.

If you "hate slavery so I am anti-white", why would you hate Whites when they instigated the abolition of the thing you hate? Shouldn't you be pro-White because it's Whites attempting to end the thing you hate?

-> @Greyparrot

I swear, Shila sounds like a chatbot sometimes, mumbling algorithmic poetry.

He/she/it/they/them is a broken record of cut-n-paste BJs.

--> @jamezrevenge

whats up. im sad because i can't debate anymore on ddo

you're in the right place

--> @Greyparrot

-->@coal

Deep burn.

And an apropos one at 

--> @MisterChris

Please tell me a lie.

--> @Shila

RationalMadman: You really do not know what genderqueer is.

--> @Shila

Your profile says you studied math and economics. None of the views you listed are covered by your education.

Formally studying some topics does not mean you cannot informally study other topics. Look at Bill Nye as an example. Bill Nye hosted a science education program, continued to work in various ways to educate the public in science, etc., but what he formally studied was engineering. Does this mean Bill Nye is uneducated in science? Not at all. He studied science beyond just his formal education in it because he was passionate, the same can be said of many people with many fields of interest. You do not need to have a formal education in something to be knowledgeable in it (hence why many academic journals do accept papers written by people without a formal education in the field, so long as the paper meets the standard for publication).

-> @SkepticalOne

1. You don't need to - it's explicitly spelled out in your holy book.

Unless you have scripture quoting that your argument is null and void.

So, yes, according to your religion and holy book, God does punish for imperfection.

Again don’t speak for me, and if God punishes for imperfection how do you explain the concept of heaven “mr skeptical”?

Educated northerners treat immigrants with humanity - the opposite of how southern “Christians” treat people trying to escape political turmoil, economic instability and a chronic humanitarian crisis.

--> @Shila

Pugilists stand in the same boxing ring because fighting from different venues is pointless

Everyone on the stand LIED regarding Floyd’s obvious overdose. He took it as cops were walking up and died of respiratory distress and heart failure DUE TO FENTANYL OVERDOSE MIXED WITH ORHER ILLICIT DRUGS. period. Fact. Period. 

--> @Shila

Slavery was practiced all around the world by various other races, not just White people. You have unfairly targeted Whites. 

That makes whites as low as other races.

To include blacks/Africans. 

You do know (likely not) that Africans were enslaving their own and selling them off to Muslims (among others) long before America came into the picture. Also, the very first legally recognized slaver owner in America was a black African, a former slave himself, and he was notoriously brutal.

Also, White people were the first race to push for the end of slavery.

Whites ended slavery after sleeping with slaves became fashionable.

Does stupidity come naturally to you, or do you have to work at it?

Your hatred of White people is not only disgusting, but unfounded on total ignorance, you absolute buffoon. 

Whites hate whites. Remember 2 world wars in Europe and now a third on the way. Whites killing whites is messy but necessary.

The wars have nothing to do with skin color. 

Again, does being stupid come naturally or do you have to work at it. 

--> @Shila

Why are you using an argument you are most Skeptical about?

I am trying to make sense of my interlocutor's views. Assuming his views for the sake of argument allows he and I some (temporary) common ground.

Really? It’s interesting that you don’t know the basics of a Chapter 11 bankruptcy. 6 Chapter 11 bankruptcies out of more than 500 separate businesses. I’d call that a massive success.

--> @Tejretics

Like I just did in the Politics forum, here are some of my controversial philosophical views. Would love to chat about any of them! Also check out my AMA.

• Epistemic nihilism is false. I’m not sure its truth can actually be evaluated, but at minimum, it’s useless and unproductive. 
  
• God almost certainly doesn’t exist. 
  
• Highly uncertain about this, but free will probably exists. 
  
• Moral realism is probably true, though highly uncertain. 
  
• Common sense morality is, all things considered, a pretty good metric. 
  
• The best approximation of a good moral theory that I can think of is preference utilitarianism, albeit somewhat skittish, accounting for moral uncertainty with either expected choice-worthiness or a parliamentary model, and incorporating some unusually strong common sense intuitions. 
  
• Creating new happy lives is a good thing, though not as good as making existing people happy. Creating new bad lives is a bad thing (though not as bad, other things equal, as inflicting suffering on existing people). 
  
• Countries don’t have very large special obligations to their own citizens. They should prioritize their citizens a bit more than non-citizens, for pragmatic reasons, but policy should, in general, focus a lot more on the rest of the world. 
  
• Individuals have a moral obligation to assist those in need. 
  
• We should care, morally, as much about future generations as the current one. Of course, for practical reasons, it often makes sense to prioritize the interests of people alive today, but the moral worth of someone 300 or 3000 years from now is no different than the moral worth of someone alive today.
  

Your profile says you studied math and economics. None of the views you listed are covered by your education.

Polytheist-Witch: Another threat expressing the butt hurt of white man.

--> @Tarik

1st of all I NEVER conflated imperfection with sin. 2nd you haven’t validated anything. 3rd the only dishonest one is you for not providing any support for any of your claims.

1. You don't need to - it's explicitly spelled out in your holy book. 2/3. I apparently gave you too much credit when assuming you had passing knowledge of the Bible while pointing out the conflict between your explicit views and core Christian doctrines. Link  Original sin is thought to be a built-in corruption of mankind - an imperfection which makes humanity worthy of punishment by default. So, yes, according to your religion and holy book, God does punish for imperfection.

--> @Deb-8-a-bull

600lbs is a tad on the big side, doesn't matter what colour you are.

For sure, certain afro-ethnic sub-groups do have a genetic predisposition for big arses.

But to be fair, so do a lot of Caucasians. (Gender neutral)

Pop into town and sit on a bench with a coffee and a bun and watch people go by.

And you will see that they come in a staggering array of genetically modified shapes and sizes.

Knock knees and bowlegs are prime examples of evolutionary diversity.

But just one bun and make sure you walk.

So for sure, some people a naturally big.

And then some just don't realise that dinners over.

BMI. Body Mass Index

BMF. Big Mother Fucker

--> @RationalMadman

I am just telling it like it was and it was great entertainment. I am indifferent otherwise. No ones mind was ever changed because of a debate. I come here to hear different points of view to challenge my own. Things that I used to believe that I don't believe anymore because of this site and the other site. 

I don't believe in god in the terms humanity describes God anymore. . I believe in a creator  and I also don't think that creator has mass. I think the creator is a massless, intelligent form of infinite pure energy. Space, time and mass does not apply to the creator because the creator created space, time and mass. The creator does not care about outcome, most especially sporting events.

I used to think not anything was possible.  Someone said Anything is possible so long as it doesn't defy the laws of physics. That stuck with me.

I used to think there was no way people would choose tyranny over freedom,  I don't think that anymore.

-->@Shila

Why do you work for minimum wage?

I truly wish I was making the minimum wage rather than what I make currently. The minimum wage is entirely sufficient for me to fund all my endeavors, with plenty of room for cool things like vacations! if I was making minimum wage, and someone offered more money, I would surely refuse. In fact, it greatly saddens me that I make more than $7.25 an hour (the minimum wage in my state).

--> @RationalMadman

I swear, Shila sounds like a chatbot sometimes, mumbling algorithmic poetry

RationalMadman: The real solution is to help them feel comfortable in their genuine body, not to play games and tell them they ought to alter it to mimic the race or sex they prefer.

--> @Shila

If the Bible says good and evil come directly from the mind of God, then by definition, wouldn't they be subjective truths?

Truth cannot be subjective; there is no such thing as your truth or my truth. Truth is forever fixed. Authentic Christianity has always held that Scripture is absolute, objective truth. The Bible is God’s truth regardless of whether a person believes, understands, or likes it. It is permanent and universal truth, and therefore is the same for everyone. Deuteronomy 4:2 and Revelation 22:18–19 warn against adding to or taking away from Scripture, lest one suffer the plagues recorded therein. Proverbs 30:5–6 states: “Every word of God is tested; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. Do not add to His words or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.” The Bible is God’s Word to man—inspired, objective, and absolute truth.

The very nature and use of the word “truth implies that it is referential to a dynamic, it isn’t self-referential, it refers to a relationship between things in constant change and flux because that dynamic is subject to time and progress.

The Truth is not true because Jesus said it; Jesus said it because it is true.  There is a huge difference and the difference is this; the Truth is also true when Muhammad says it, and it is just as true when an atheist says it. The Truth is simply true, no matter what the metaphysical presuppositions of the person who speaks the Truth are, and no matter in what time or place, language or culture, or in what form that truth is expressed. Absolute Truth is absolutely, universally, and eternally true.

Absolute truth is not consistent with literal truth.

--> @SkepticalOne

In the context of this conversation, imperfection and sin are synonymous. One only need consult the thread to validate this. Once again, your dishonesty is plain for all to see. 

1st of all I NEVER conflated imperfection with sin. 2nd you haven’t validated anything. 3rd the only dishonest one is you for not providing any support for any of your claims.

--> @TWS1405

Nowhere in the toxicology report is nor fentanyl mentioned. He lied. There are two references to increased levels of fentanyl in his blood at 34 and 50 ng/ML. 

Floyd killed himself. 

That’s a lie. norfentanyl is listed on the line directly below the fentanyl line in the toxicology report you attached. The amount is listed as 5.6 ng/ml

Are you stupid or a liar? Perhaps both.

--> @Shila

And OJ was innocent.

--> @oromagi

Yeah, that was the heavy hitting argument wasn't it. Its literally a description talking about what a universal is, not an argument that was plagiarised. I also got it from my description in another debate, i always assume most things are copy and pasted in such sections regardless if they're cited or not.