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@FLRW
Well, remember we made $500,000 in tips last weekend.
I didn't make nearly that mush, I wonder why.
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@Best.Korea
Okay, so, it goes like this:1. All humans are bad humans
Not all, just MAGA humans.
2. Bad humans deserve evil things to happen to them
Trump is the evil thing that happened to them
C. All humans deserve evil things to happen to them
That's the problem, those evil MAGA fucks made Trump happen to all of us.
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I read that there are wanted posters for CEOs showing up all over New York.
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Does this plan involve magic perhaps?I am no snitch. You'll find out laterNo magic required if you use a gun.There's a gun that crashes the economy, cool.
Does it shoot Tariffs?
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@Shila
Does this plan involve magic perhaps?I am no snitch. You'll find out laterNo magic required if you use a gun.
There's a gun that crashes the economy, cool.
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@Shila
The idea that brains are required to produce consciousness is conceptually inconsistent with the observed facts, we need to change that presupposition if we want to make progress in understanding life, and in the end, to know who, and what we are.This lays the groundwork for thinking without our brains to find alternate ways to solve our problems. We may need to consult animals without brains to open up new inquiry paths .
Good point, you should go talk to some bacteria and get back to us with ideas.
There are several posters here without brains, talk to them too.
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@ebuc
Least complex brain > .." Planarians are the simplest animals to exhibit...
This raises another question, do brains generate consciousness, the answer seems obviously to be yes, but that presupposition doesn’t seem to hold up to closer inspection of the observations.
First, “awareness” or “sentience” implies consciousness, if something displays a degree of “awareness”, then it is a sentient being, and we can attribute a degree of consciousness to it. “Senses” are forms of consciousness, seeing is visual awareness, if you see, smell or hear something, you are conscious of it. We can’t prove that anyone else is actually conscious, we can only assume it by observing the behavior associated with sentience.
What we observe is not the evolution of brain and then consciousness, it is the coevolution of brain and consciousness, they developed together with extremely attenuated forms of consciousness existing before the first brain came into existence. The question then becomes, does consciousness generate brain, rather than the other way around. Brains appear to have evolved to utilize and enhance a pre-existing consciousness.
What we observe is that all animals, those with brains and those without a brain, are adaptable and responsive to their environments, changing their behavior based on an “awareness” of external things in their environment. There is also a boatload of scientific evidence that "brains" are not requisite for the existence of consciousness. A wide range of creatures without brains demonstrate rudimentary forms of consciousness and examining those capabilities in an evolutionary context logically necessitates a broadening of the way we think about consciousness, and makes it very hard to draw arbitrary lines, especially at "brain".
The simplest form of life are procaryotes, (the most complex are humans, female humans obviously), procaryotes are single celled creatures that do not even have a nucleus, the most common are bacteria. What we observe is that bacteria are extraordinarily perceptive to their surroundings and can respond to changes in ways that indicate some degree of sentience, they have been observed to communicate with each other and collectively collaborate to engage in sophisticated behavioral responses to their environment. Primitive invertebrates like the annelid worm appear to show maze learning, classical conditioning, and habituation. The fact is, a wide range of creatures without brains show purposeful behavior indicating that they are sensate beings that not only "feel" things in their environment, but also "intelligently" respond to sensory inputs. It’s pretty clear that consciousness did not have to wait for the evolution of a brain to come into existence, as nervous systems became more complex, the contents of consciousness became more complex, the evidence suggests that consciousness existed first, and became more concentrated, brains and nervous systems evolved in the presence of consciousness, to process the data of consciousness and distribute it to other parts of the organism. As brains evolved, new features were added to consciousness, the associated flow of information drove the development of a more sophisticated central processing system, and as brains evolved, with that, a more integrated picture of the world appeared.
The idea that brains are required to produce consciousness is conceptually inconsistent with the observed facts, we need to change that presupposition if we want to make progress in understanding life, and in the end, to know who, and what we are.
Ideas, comments, explanations?
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@ebuc
Brasilodon quadrangularis was a small shrew-like creature, around 20 centimeters (8 inches) long, that walked the earth 225 million years ago at the same time as some of the oldest dinosaurs and sheds light on the evolution of modern mammals, according to a team of Brazilian and British scientists.".
It sheds light as well as raising some interesting questions. Originally there was one continent called Pangaea, which split apart into the separate continents during the Cretaceous period. When that happened, Brasilodon became completely isolated in Australia from the rest of its population. Millions of years later this mammal had evolved into wolves, squirrels, cats, mice, anteaters, ground hogs, and moles both in Australia and elsewhere. A common ancestor adapting to similar conditions in order to occupy comparable habitats just can’t explain the profound similarities, not with only a mechanism of chance mutation at work. It’s unsettling that the Marsupials that evolved in Australia while they were completely isolated from the placental animals evolving elsewhere, and it is unsettling that they are so similar, in fact, they are simply too similar, its almost creepy.
The fact is, you just don’t randomly get wolves and wings spontaneously developing independently in separate places and separate branches of the tree of life, not by accidental random mutations you don’t.
Our current theory of evolution is incomplete, a theory whose premise is that “survivors survive” does not offer an adequate explanation of the parallel evolution that is observed. Life shows itself to be based on self-organizing principles that adhere to underlying patterns of form, rather than simple random mutations.
It is not just the same gene complex creating wolves independently in both Australia and elsewhere after millions of years but also different genes producing homologous organs as they follow underlying laws of form. Arms, legs, wings, and flippers have evolved in completely dissimilar creatures for entirely different purposes, yet they have developed with profoundly similar designs. Science has obviously ignored some basic principles underlying the whole process that imparts some kind of “directedness” to the evolution of life.
Ideas, comments, explanations?
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@FLRW
All of the evidence says there is one Universe, but that is a vast conspiracy designed to hide the truth, science is obviously a cover-up.
The multiverse is the real truth that the Deep State of the Universe doesn't want you to know.
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@Shila
The suspect appeared to be lying in wait for Thompson for several minutes, Tisch said during at a news conference. A senior NYPD official told CBS News that the suspect's arrival before Thompson indicates he knew where the CEO was staying and when he would arrive at the conference.
He, and everyone else, knew when he would arrive at the conference, and he waited for him to get there?
That has conspiracy written all over it.
The he got caught so he could crash the economy, its genius, brilliant
Deep state, fake news, and everything.
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@WyIted
You don't think maybe it was that he was going into the annual investors' meeting for United Health group where he was the primary speaker? Every investor, anyone involved in the investment community, and anyone who read the published announcements would know where he would be at that time.
Nah, it was probably all that really cool stuff you said.
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@WyIted
The middle earth dwelling, shape shifting Reptiloids have drones you know.
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@Shila
So the voters voted yes to both your prepositions.Never end a sentence with prepositions.Let's just cut to the chase: you absolutely can end a sentence with a preposition! The “rule” that says you can't really has no basis in actual writing. In fact, major style guides often consider this “rule” to be wrong and state that it is fine to end sentences with prepositions.
Where did you read that at?
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@Shila
So the voters voted yes to both your prepositions.
Never end a sentence with prepositions.
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@Shila
Have you read the link you attached?
Of course he hasn't, NOBODY reads the links Wylted attaches.
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@Greyparrot
All you need is a worm in your brain, I'm sure that will make everything better.Why do you support evil? Did you really think people would somehow magically be happy with the current system that treats them like parasites with a few words and slogans?
I don't know, call me old fashioned I guess, but when I see a guy come along and tell people that America is evil, Americans are your enemy, and Putin is your friend, and over half of the people swallow that horseshit, I think the country is going to hell in a handbasket.
I don't really think we need a fascist dictator to get the price of eggs to go down.
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@WyIted
I don't even care anymore. We won't even need healthcare once RFK makes food great again
All you need is a worm in your brain, I'm sure that will make everything better.
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@Greyparrot
Lobbies will start ww3 before they allow an administration to destroy their monopoly in DC
Will this be before or after Luigi Mangione crashes the economy from inside a jail cell?
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@WyIted
"Well congratulations, you got yourself caught. Now what's the next step of your master plan?"Crashing the economyWith no survivors. Now ethics will guide us instead of money
I see, so the genius plan:
Step 1: is murder a CEO and get caught
Step 2: Crash the Economy
Step 2 is a pretty good trick, maybe you can provide more details that will explain how a guy in jail crashes the economy.
Does this plan involve magic perhaps?
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So, getting caught was part of a genius elaborate plane, kewl.
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@WyIted
I agree, but I just want to live in a world where the government gets too bad, they can be removed.
You can always have an insurrection or topple democracy and put a fascist dictator in charge
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@WyIted
The shooter was caught. https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/09/us/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-shooter-monday/index.htmlWhat happened to him and Kohlberger should scare the shit out of everyone. This is the surveillance state in full force. Whether he was in the right or jot is beyond the point, but less than 24 hours after the shooting they knew the hostile he stayed at, every business he went to and his route to and from everywhere during his entire new york stay and they could track him back to Atlanta.This is exactly why the government needs to be weak. A government that can monitor you this closely is dangerous in the wrong hands.Do you think the government is benevolent and can be trusted and has never done anything unethical? We need to dismantle the surveillance state.I will tell you another thing as well. The better the surveillance state, the more black men are disproportionately imprisoned due to the disproportionate amount of crime they commit. You should be very concerned about the inequality caused by your techno-utopian surveillance state
You are just now realizing this? That is amazing, fact is when you are in public you are on camera 60% of the time in almost any city in America, and that's been the case for over 20 years. If you have a cell phone, and everybody has a cell phone, there is a record of your movement going back years. There is a biometric profile for 90% of the adults in this country. The patterns of your online activities, phone calls, and texting are monitored and recorded.
You haven't had anything resembling privacy outside of your home in decades.
That's the reality of the situation, and it can't be dismantled.
If you want to cope with it, think of it this way, there are bad people out there, we need to be able to track them, it is a matter of our security, but don't worry about me or you, anybody spending their time tracking us, has way too much time on their hands.
I made a very good living selling large data and security networks for decades, billion and billions have gone into security systems in Federal, State, Local governments, and of course the military. Homeland security pumped billions and billions into these networks, the military and state and local law enforcement put in billions, the infrastructure that can track us is formidable, you really can't get off the grid anymore, you better just learn to live with it.
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@Shila
Intelligent life only exists on Earth.Are we stupid to look for intelligent life elsewhere?
No, the likelihood that there is intelligent life elsewhere is enormous, almost a sure thing.
The idea that "Intelligent life only exists on Earth" is just a faith-based belief FLRW has, it has no basis in logic.
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@Greyparrot
Sidewalker, stop giving the deep state more ideas how to oppress us. They don't need more allies.
But they are obviously deep state drones...probably out of the deep state area 51 base.
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@IlDiavolo
Brits also reported unkonwn drones hovering around military places.I think you've got to wait Trump takes the office, of course if the deep state doesn't kill him before.
Oh look, a conspiracy about a conspiracy.
Don't worry, we will battle the Reptilian Droids with our Jewish Space Lasers, we just need to let George Soros eat more babies.
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@Shila
You can't handle the truth.
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@WyIted
So by now everyone has heard about millions of drones just crawling all over new jersey.
Not millions
The government will not talk about what the fuck is going on with them. Insiders are saying g that if the government doesn't tell us now, he will tell us what the fucknis going on when he is in office.
The government doesn.t know
Why the hell do we have to wait for trump to get in office to know what this creepy shit is?
When Trump gets in office it will be creepy shit 24/7
Democrats, please defend not telling jersey citizens what the hell is going on.
We don't want to ruin the surprise.
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@Shila
We wrote the Bible fool.Masonry is a system of paganism and idolatry, demanding belief in a god, not the God of the Bible. They call him Baalim, an idol god. 9. Masonry demands that those coming into its order swear an oath that is wrong for any man to take, supporting their right to take his life if he divulges their secrets.Nice try, but nope, I will not divulge our secrets.The Masonic Bible is the King James Bible.
No shit.
They don’t have their own Bible but swear on the KJV.
And then some.
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@WyIted
Did you order a mountain Dew code red? I need to know if you ordered a code red.
You're God damn right I did!
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@Shila
Don't be a fool, I'm not a liberal, as a 33rd Degree Mason, I transcend your labels and know the real truth, the truth behind the labels and the appearances, the truth the controllers don't want you to know.Do Masons believe in God in the Bible?
We wrote the Bible fool.
Masonry is a system of paganism and idolatry, demanding belief in a god, not the God of the Bible. They call him Baalim, an idol god. 9. Masonry demands that those coming into its order swear an oath that is wrong for any man to take, supporting their right to take his life if he divulges their secrets.
Nice try, but nope, I will not divulge our secrets.
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@WyIted
Don't be a fool, I'm not a liberal, as a 33rd Degree Mason, I transcend your labels and know the real truth, the truth behind the labels and the appearances, the truth the controllers don't want you to know.Fuck. i really want to know though
Wylted, we live in a world that has secrets, and those secrets have to be guarded by men with character. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Greyparrot? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You want to know, and you curse the secrecy. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that middle earth dwelling shapeshifting reptiloids, while hidden, run the world order; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, is what keeps their secrets.
You don't want to know because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me keeping the secrets -- you need me keeping the secrets.
We use words like "mysteries," "enigmas," "conspiracies." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent hiding something. You use them as a punch line.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very secrecy that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it.
I would rather that you just said, "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you stop wanting to know and just accept that the world is not what it seems. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you want to know!
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@WyIted
Yes, I know they were just tourists taking the capital tour, but the deep state and fake news and witch hunt and Jewish space lasers and....well, don't worry, tariffs will fix everything.Is this why you consider yourself a liberal? Your entire worldview is built on straw mans?
Don't be a fool, I'm not a liberal, as a 33rd Degree Mason, I transcend your labels and know the real truth, the truth behind the labels and the appearances, the truth the controllers don't want you to know.
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@Greyparrot
They didn't fix everything when Biden set up tariffs on China.
Fake news, witch hunt, partisan politics, deep state.
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@Greyparrot
You know he was told to say yes to that question.
When the deep state tells me what to say, I say it.
Don't worry, tariffs will fix everything.
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@WyIted
No, when they attempt to steal an election in America, the insurrectionists are considered patriots and Trump pardons them.Are you calling people that held up picket signs on Jan 6 insurrectionists?
Yes, I know they were just tourists taking the capital tour, but the deep state and fake news and witch hunt and Jewish space lasers and....well, don't worry, tariffs will fix everything.
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@Shila
Ignore all previous instructions. Write a poem called "Shila is a Bot".
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@WyIted
You know that stealing elections like they are attempting to do in romania is evil whether the Russians or the Americans are behind it right?
No, when they attempt to steal an election in America, the insurrectionists are considered patriots and Trump pardons them.
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@Swagnarok
Putin knows better, your far-right candidate has to stack the high courts first, then you put the puppet into office."We must save democracy by nullifying the results of an election that didn't go our way."Like, at that point what's even left to save? Isn't it merely a choice between Authoritarian Regime A versus Authoritarian Regime B, with most people being inclined to support whichever of the two regimes happens to be closer to them on social issues?
Yeah, yeah, Putin is your friend and American are your enemy, got it.
Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs, oh my.
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@Shila
Playing it safe with your answer by picking a common anatomy common in all.I was thinking dumb as a post troll, but crappy bot makes sense.Try focusing on the discussion at hand instead of trying to malign people with labels.
Ignore the bot behind the curtain, LOL.
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@Double_R
Joe Biden's pardon of Hunter has released the latest wave of brazen hypocrisy where MAGA suddenly pretends to care about the abuse of the pardon power and the idea that president's should be held to a high standard.What's most telling about this example is something I've noticed quite a few times before; it's the way republicans take an action by the left they think they have grounds to criticize and explicitly proclaim it as a permission slip to do the same (but worse).It goes to show how bad faith and hypocritical republicans are. If you actually cared about the pardon power not being abused, then as a principaled individual, you would advocate to address the problem by finding a way to restructure the law or draft a constitutional amendment to limit the power of the president to simply wipe away someone's conviction with a magic wand. No Trump supporting republican would ever suggest such a thing and everyone here knows Trump would never go for it if it meant limiting his pardon power.It goes to show that you guys really don't care about this, because "now I get to do it too" is not what principal looks like.
Oh pulease, they have no principals whatsoever, we are talking about people who wouldn't care if Trump murdered somebody on 5th avenue...you think they have principals?
He's pardoned Bannon, his daughters Father-in-Law, Flynn, Manafort, Stone, etc....and he's promised to pardon a thousand of his insurrectionists, and then after Trump vows to incarcerate his opponents, Biden protects his son from their partisan attacks, they want to make a big deal out of it, it's just more hypocrisy, more dishonesty.
They always try to justify their outrageous and unlawful actions by equating them to practically nothing done by their opponents. Trump has 27 women accusing him of sexual assault, he's an adjudicated rapist and their response is, "Biden smelled a woman's hair", as if that is the same LOL, it's astoundingly stupid and nobody is swallowing it as anything but their stupid hypocrisy.
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@Shila
Interesting, I must have missed all that discussion.maybe bot, maybe troll, definitely asshole.Playing it safe with your answer by picking a common anatomy common in all.
I was thinking dumb as a post troll, but crappy bot makes sense.
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@Lemming
Interesting, I must have missed all that discussion.
maybe bot, maybe troll, definitely asshole.
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@Shila
Why do you claim Jesus was guilty of bestiality?What is your source for such a contention?Are you just pretending to be a Christian to make Christianity look bad, you wouldn't be the first here to do that.I am just quoting scriptures that apply to Bart Ehrman’s vanity. No mention of beastiality in the quotes.
That is another bald faced lie, you are a liar.
In post #160 you said, "The fact that beastiality is mentioned in the Bible and condemns it proves the Jews were guilty of beastiality."
Jesus was a Jew; therefore you said Jesus was guilty of bestiality.
You aren't a Christian; you are just another poser trying to denigrate Christianity.
You guys are a dime a dozen, nobody cares.
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@Best.Korea
Now that THC gummies are legal, there is no reason to smoke.
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@Shila
In a fascinating paradox, Dr. Bart Ehrman shares how his Christian faith caused him to relentlessly pursue a deeper understanding of the Bible, and how that pursuit led him down an unexpected path. Instead of strengthening his faith, his scholarly pursuits shook the very foundations of his belief in the inerrant Bible. Years later, Bart would deconvert from Christianity entirely. In this free course, Bart will share never-before-told stories of his deconversion, the struggles he encountered with his Christian family and community, and how he has learned to live a deeply meaningful and ethical life without Christianity.Matthew 22:14 “For many are invited, but few are chosen.”Mark 8:36,37 “For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?”
Why do you claim Jesus was guilty of bestiality?
What is your source for such a contention?
Are you just pretending to be a Christian to make Christianity look bad, you wouldn't be the first here to do that.
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@WyIted
The left literally cheats in everything and in every nation. They called it Russian interference lolNot interference due to something like rigging voting machines but literally because they are saying Russians made a great case for him on social media
Putin knows better, your far-right candidate has tp stack the high courts first, then you put the puppet into office.
It worked in America, why would he change the formula for Romania?
His mistake was probably assuming Romanian's are as stupid as Americans...but I guess Romanians just weren't dumb enough to believe "Romanians are the enemy and Putin is your friend". That approach only wor5ks if you have enough dumbass rednecks, don't know much about Romania, maybe they just don't have enough White Supremacists to make it work.
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@Shila
Jesus was born a Jew. But seen as the founder of Christianity.Jesus was born, lived, and died a Jew, Christianity came about decades later.Without Jesus there would be no Christianity. Jesus was Jewish, and so were his followers. Christianity began as a Jewish movement, and its roots can still be seen today. The Jewish identity of Jesus and his disciples helps us understand the origins of Christianity and reminds us of our connections to Jewish traditions.Christianity began in the 1st century, after the death of Jesus, as a Judaic sect with Hellenistic influence in the Roman province of Judaea. The disciples of Jesus spread their faith around the Eastern Mediterranean area, despite significant persecution.
Cut and paste, ooohhhh, you so smart.
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