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Trump is now selling his own, new and improved Bible, the "The God Bless America Bible".  The latest and greatest Bible is the only one endorsed by Trump, with additions such as Lee Greenwood song lyrics (“God Bless the U.S.A.”), the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and other valuable additions.

MAGA Folks, get your order in now, your guy needs the money for Lawyers, Fines, and Bail.


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Biden's State of the Union speech was awesome, he has stepped up and hit a grand slam.

I think he won the election last night, and probably won back the House and Senate also.


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Trump's latest campaign ad features his humble nature:


So, what do you think, can we put the blame on God?

Evangelical Christians are the target audience, don't they also think God made Hitler?

If they think God made Trump, do they also think God made Biden President?

I wasn't sure if this post should go in the "Politics" forum or the "Religion" forum.  untill they come up with a "Fucked Up Shit" forum I guess it should go in "Politics".

I suppose "Politics" and "Fucked Up Shit" forums would be redundant anyway.
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How do you MAGA folks celebrate? 

Sing praises to Putin, kiss a horse's ass in honor of Trump, just what are the festivities on this important MAGA Holiday?
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"When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, (possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits), despotic in his ordinary demeanor, known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty, when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity, to join in the cry of danger to liberty, to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion, to flatter and fall in with all the nonsense of the zealots of the day, It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind"  - Alexander Hamilton (in a letter to George Washington in 1792)
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It seems the far right has seized on the word “woke” as asymbol of everything they don’t like, the way it is used it appears to be anumbrella term designating the “them” of their “us/them” thinking.  “Florida is where woke goes to die”, wtf doesthat even mean?

Those of you who talk about how terrible "woke" is,please clarify, how do you define “woke”, explicitly, what does “woke” mean to you?
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The sites focus has completely changed in response to the new CoC enforcement policy, perhaps DebateArt is no longer representative of what we do here, I recommend we change the name of the site to WhinyLittleBitches.com.

That way, newbies will know what to expect.
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Another first for Trump, one in, more to follow.

Comments?
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We all know tonight is the Superbowl, one of the most televised events in the world, kick off is 6:30, so arounf 6:25 the National Anthem will be televised to well over a hundred million people. 

Consider what could happen, and the terrible risk we are taking.

If a white football player takes a knee during the National Anthem tonight, meh....but what if a black plyaer does so?  OMG, the horror, the horror.

Fox news would erupt like a volcano spewing racism lava throughout the world and covering the major cities with conspiracy theory ash, Republicans would spontaneously combust, and the remaining people would choose to be gay and start destroying gas stoves and Doctor Seuss books, children would all start playing with Mr. Transvestite Potatohead, and soon, mankind would die out in a blaze of tolerance.

For the future of civilization, let's all pray that tonight we can make it through the National Anthem without incident,  our lives depend on it.
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The Republican House went from hating Nancy Pelosi to getting the majority, and then hating Kevin McCrathy.He had to cut so many deals to get elected, going forward he has to get Matt Gaetz seventeen year old girls, and make Marjorie Taylor Greene's tin foil hats, and most critically, he agreed to a rule change that says any congressman can call for a no-confidence referendum if they don’t like how he’s doing his job.

So, how long do you think he will last, I think there's no way he makes it past 6 Scaramuccis.

What do you think?


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It may be the right thing to do, but we all know no Republican would have done the right thing.  


And where is Obama, when is he going to hit the campaign trail, he has the most potential to influence the midterms, is he on vacation or what?
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Trump dials up the hate, during a time of increasing political violence he invites violence on Mitch McConnel and his wife.  At the same time this racist, insurrectionist, defamation machine that can hardly speak without flinging defamatory remarks at anyone who opposes him, hypocritically sues CNN for using word like “racist” and “insurrectionist” to refer to him.

Is this dangerous lunatic simply desperate for attention or what? I expect that next he will go after Desantis for stealing his spotlight.  
He bragged that his base thinks murder is OK, and to them five dead is a peaceful protest, if one of his many crazies kills McConnel, should he be held accountable?   
 
Trump's violent rhetoric conjures chilling echoes as midterms loom | CNN Politics
The former President dialed up the hate another notch last week with a social media post that accused Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, with whom he has a strained relationship, of having a “death wish” and flung racism at his wife, former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao. In another escalation, Trump recently slammed FBI agents as “vicious monsters” over the lawful search of his Florida home.

Trump files $475 million defamation lawsuit against CNN | AP News
Trump’s lawsuit claims “The Big Lie” phrase CNN uses, “is intended to aggravate, scare and trigger people,” while he does his best to “aggravate, scare and trigger people”.
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Let the freak show begin, whatcha got, compiracy, deep state, secret democratic society of evil, or....maybe he broke the law, what do you think?

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Anyone who has tried to have a rational conversation with a Trump supporter recognizes that the problem with the obdurate and dogmatic closed mindedness of Trump supporters is that everything is one dimensional, there's no depth, nothing at all below a surface level understanding. Allow me to try to explain this phenomenon in the context of the evolutionary approach of science.

Paul MacLean’s "triune brain" thought process posits three distinct groupings of the human brain’s various autonomous structures that from an evolutionary point of view developed sequentially in time, and is roughly associated with the emergence of reptiles, mammals, and humans.  The brain structures that evolved over time on the way to making a human brain are the “R-Complex” or reptilian brain, the limbic system or “paleomammalian complex”, and the neocortex or “neomammalian complex”. As we evolved each sequential brain development necessarily built upon and was added to the preceding structures and result in the general behavioral characteristics typical of the reptiles, mammals, and primates that sequentially emerged and have the added new brain complex in addition to the ones that had previously evolved. MacLean’s central idea is that human thought is a complex interplay of separate behaviors characteristic of our evolutionary development that developed sequentially as these brain groupings were added, this model allows us to learn more about human behavior by examining and relating the behavior of the associated three classes of animals. 

Anatomical brain research, particularly changes observed after selective damage to cortical regions and brain mapping techniques, have since demonstrated a strong correlation between the behavior described and the brain structures described in the model. While MacLean’s model is not perfect, a great deal of understanding resulted and to this day, most brain researchers think along these lines.  The brain did evolve in an additive way and specific types of behavior did emerge sequentially, and there is clearly a spectrum of behavior that ranges from the lowest level reptilian “brain”, strongly associated with the ritualistic displays, territoriality, and aggression of reptiles, to the last general brain structure to evolve, the prefrontal cortex which exploded in size during hominid evolution and in a fully developed form, is considered to be what makes us human.  The prefrontal cortex is associated with planning, complex problem solving, regulation of emotion, and spirituality.

The aforementioned obdurate and dogmatic closed mindedness of Trump supporters is a comprehension problem that stems from an "R-Complex" (lizard brain) dominance, which is behaviorally characterized by stereotypically reptilian ritualistic displays and the typical instincts of dominance, territoriality, and aggression associated with Reptilia class conduct. R-Complex dominance results in a limitation to the range of logical or rational responses as reptile typical automatic and irrational behavioral responses supersede the higher level processes of logical thought and rational behavior.  The ability for abstract thought is compromised, and the individual becomes trapped in a surface level understanding, making it difficult or impossible to comprehend symbolism, metaphor, and meaning. The reason such close minded individuals are so dogmatic is that the irrational reptilian instinct of territoriality becomes attached to ideas and opinions which are then aggressively defended as a matter of self-preservation.  The associated constant and illogical repetition of dogmatic assertions is the reptilian phenomena of ritualism making an irrational attempt to socially delineate a hierarchical position of territorial dominance in the realm of ideas and opinions.

In R-complex dominance reptilian behaviors are amplified and the emotional and thinking brains are down-regulated, so for instance, attempts at logical, rational, and socially acceptable interaction trigger reptilian territoriality and aggression and ritualistic displays instead of logical consideration of the other person’s point of view followed by a reasoned response. The R-Complex dominance will desensitize limbic system characteristics such as altruistic behavior and the capacity for intellectual empathy are subordinated to the reptilian instinctual behaviors of aggression and territoriality, and the mammalian functions that allow an individual to distinguish between what is socially acceptable or unacceptable is compromised as the individual becomes desensitized to other people’s thoughts and ideas in favor of repetitive ritualistic displays and the species typical reptilian behaviors of aggression and territoriality.  Social ineptness can result in societal isolation and an associated resentment because the reptilian lack of abstract reasoning and the related reptilian inability to comprehend or respect the affective states of others downgrades logical thought and results in a reptile typical and completely territorial attack approach to discussing other people’s ideas.
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I think it’s common for young children to see the Bible as a story book and to have a childish understanding of God as an invisible man in the sky that grants wishes to those who pray.  Of course, as children age and mature their conception of God and their understanding of faith develops and matures beyond such childish ways of understanding things.

But apparently, that isn’t always the case. There seems to be a group of very vocal Atheists whose conception of God and faith did not mature as they got older and who spend a lot of time ranting about how much more intelligent, rational, and mature they are than people of faith because they now reject this childish idea of God. They apparently don’t understand that no adult Theist believes in the God they don’t believe in and yet, they really seem thrilled with themselves for their intellectual achievement  It just seems that they are using the faith discussion to brag about how they are all grown up now and so they don’t believe in the invisible man in the sky anymore, and when I read those posts I can’t help but recall the image of a little child I saw on vacation a few years back who was clinging to the wall of the hotel pool kicking his legs and yelling “Mommy, mommy, look at me, I’m swimming in the deep end just like a grown up”.

I’m sorry, but this type of Atheism just doesn’t appear to be all that grown up to me, and clinging to such childish ideas about God and faith isn’t what I’d call “deep”.

What do you think, does this explain a lot of the behavior we see on these boards?
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According to the Standard Model of Cosmology, the Universe is temporally and spatially finite, and it is expanding. 

The question becomes, what is it expanding into?
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The Existence of Green is Disproved

In another thread, on a far away board, much like this one, angry Evangelical Colorblinds (ECs) finally proved that Green does not exist. Here is a report by someone that was actually there...

For centuries it has been said that Green was both blue and yellow, and yet, it was neither blue nor yellow.

The Evangelical Colorblinds (ECs) pointed out the obvious contradictions in this paradoxical statement, it was proven that something can not be both and yet neither at the same time, and Green was shown to be illogical and irrational.     

Those who believed in Green pointed out that people everywhere, in all times, always, have reported having experienced the color Green.

The ECs explained that those people lived in a pre-scientific age, which is equal to unscientific of course, and therefore Mankind must in fact have always been wrong and that Mankind has just always been delusional, simply wishing that there was a color Green.

It was shown that what is referred to as Green by pre/unscientific man is merely a particular wavelength of light within the visible spectrum of the electromagnetic field, and that in fact, the color Green had therefore been explained away by science. It was determined that Green has no objective existence.

It was pointed out by the people that believed in Green that they do in fact experience the color Green themselves.

These people were told that the burden of proof was on them, that no one can prove the existence of Green, and it had already been proven that Green had no objective reality anyway. The EC's then explained that these people were also delusional, anti-scientific, illogical and irrational; they mocked them, called them names, and proclaimed them stupid.

The believers said that Green was the color of photosynthesis, that photosynthesis transforms light into life, and that the air we breathe is nourishing because of this process. It was said that no color chart is complete without Green.

The ECs proclaimed that Green was the color of envy and the color of money and so it was a function of greed. The ECs went on to show that most of the wars of mankind were fought by people wearing Green uniforms, so that Green has obviously been the cause of mayhem and murder for centuries, and it was shown that all of the terrorists of 911 had Green cards and so in our day, Green was nothing but the cause of terror and destruction also. It was stated that if men would simply accept science and renounce Green, the world would be a better place and we would have peace on earth.

I became frustrated by this thread and wanted a break from the discord and so I went to look at the Color Forum to read other threads to see what the believers had to say among themselves, I wanted to see people pronouncing the glory of Green in all its shades and hues.

But all I found were posts by the Forests mocking the Hunters and the Hunters mocking the Forests. People were telling the Azures and Turquoises that they had allowed the one true Green to become polluted by adopting the royal blues of the Romans and Greeks, and the sky blues of the Native Americans into their Green. People were telling the Emeralds and the Jades that they had allowed an eastern yellow to pervert and pollute the one true Green. The Pales were attacking the Darks, calling everyone neo-darks, and the Darks were attacking the Pales, saying they were Greenless. Ranging from patronizing to blatant anti-Olivism, it seemed everybody was picking on the Olives, some even said the Olives had killed Green. Teals were fighting with Chartreuses, there was a Seventh Day Avocadoists telling everyone that the world was coming to an end in capital letters, and some nutcase offering people a free toaster if they would accept Limeism and tithe. Everyone was proclaiming that their Green was the one true Green, and that all other Greens were false Greens.

I realized that nobody was really discussing Green; they all just seemed to be waiting for their turn to talk and then speaking about themselves, and I just didn't see the point of it all.

I realized that over half of the people in the world had developed their color charts on the basis of the color chart of the ancient Olives and so I think they must have been on to something. I also knew that the ancient Olives had believed that one should not even utter the word Green so as not to turn Green into an object and forget that the word Green was referential to a relationship. I was beginning to understand why the Olives tried not to use the word Green and so I decided that I would never again say the word Green as long as I lived, and having so resolved, I turned off my computer and went for a walk in the woods.

After a while I just didn't think about it anymore, I didn't try to put words to it, I just felt the grass under my feet and looked out at the plants and trees, the vastness of the blue sky filled me with a sense of awe and wonder, and the yellow sun warmed me. I breathed the fresh air and I was surrounded by an abundance of life, and I realized that it didn't matter what anyone had to say about the color Green, for I beheld that the quality of Green is within me.

I experienced something real and genuine that day. I don't exactly know how to express it with out saying the word, all I can say is that what I experienced that day was both blue and yellow, and yet, it was neither blue nor yellow.
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