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@TheMorningsStar
Could you also expand on what, precisely, you mean when you say "Theologically speaking, there is no excluded middle"?
Let me start by saying my comment about the excluded middle is
not limited to Theism. Your post is basically about ontology, and the law of
the excluded middle is a classical law of thought, and as such, it is
epistemological in nature. Even in the realm of propositional logic and
mathematics, the law of the excluded middle is rejected by the schools of
intuitionism, dialetheism, and fuzzy logic. Gödel challenged the validity of
the excluded middle because it failed with “impredicative definitions”.
Putting aside the subject of Spiritual Reality for a moment, a century of Quantum Physics has brought the very nature of reasoning, deductive logic, and rational thinking into question; it was shown that the presumption that deductive logic, reasoning, and rational thinking directly correspond to the truth about physical reality does not hold in all instances. A century of Quantum physics has furthered a trend that began with the discovery, or invention, depending upon your point of view, of non-Euclidean Geometries. In effect, it brought into question the 2500 year unexamined assumption that deductive reasoning corresponded to Truth, and it challenged the fundamental notion of the laws of non-contradiction and the associated excluded middle. Particle and wave are mutually exclusive characteristics, and yet, our best science tells us that they are complementary aspects of one and the same physical reality.
Regarding Spiritual reality then, you can’t reduce Theism to a sort of argumentative and speculative science in which the classical laws of thought apply. The Theist does not believe in inferred Gods whose existence depends on the strength and validity of the arguments that philosophers devise for proving or disproving their likely existence. Theism does not move in the arena of metaphysical probabilities. It moves in the arena of inwardness, of self-knowledge. Theism expresses a dimension of being which can only be apprehended by a specific form of human sensibility which transcends the four dimensional frame of reference of the classical laws of propositional logic.
Theism and hence Theistic knowledge is based on the idea that there is a way of knowing which transcends specific perceptual frames of reference. What Theism does is attempt to express a fundamental human experience that is spiritual, it is typically described as a "transcendent" experience because it lies prior to and beneath language and concepts. Consequently, all statements about Gods are symbolic. They transcend their literal meaning while pointing to the power and meaning that is discerned and mediated through the symbol. The basis of faith is not inferential reason, it is personal encounter, our ideas of God will, thus, always be provisional and inadequate, they are an attempt to express an experiential reality that lies beneath or prior to language and logical thought.
In the mystical core of all faiths, transcendent Gods are always represented as something that cannot be fully comprehended from a human frame of reference. The devotional experience within Theistic and non-theistic Religions, all have their source in this individual spiritual experience that is common to all people and cannot be expressed directly. Hence, each religion must use the terms of its own cultural and social programming and each therefore emphasizes different aspects of this common spiritual experience that cannot adequately be described with words and symbols. As such, the excluded middle of classical logic simply does not apply.
Putting aside the subject of Spiritual Reality for a moment, a century of Quantum Physics has brought the very nature of reasoning, deductive logic, and rational thinking into question; it was shown that the presumption that deductive logic, reasoning, and rational thinking directly correspond to the truth about physical reality does not hold in all instances. A century of Quantum physics has furthered a trend that began with the discovery, or invention, depending upon your point of view, of non-Euclidean Geometries. In effect, it brought into question the 2500 year unexamined assumption that deductive reasoning corresponded to Truth, and it challenged the fundamental notion of the laws of non-contradiction and the associated excluded middle. Particle and wave are mutually exclusive characteristics, and yet, our best science tells us that they are complementary aspects of one and the same physical reality.
Regarding Spiritual reality then, you can’t reduce Theism to a sort of argumentative and speculative science in which the classical laws of thought apply. The Theist does not believe in inferred Gods whose existence depends on the strength and validity of the arguments that philosophers devise for proving or disproving their likely existence. Theism does not move in the arena of metaphysical probabilities. It moves in the arena of inwardness, of self-knowledge. Theism expresses a dimension of being which can only be apprehended by a specific form of human sensibility which transcends the four dimensional frame of reference of the classical laws of propositional logic.
Theism and hence Theistic knowledge is based on the idea that there is a way of knowing which transcends specific perceptual frames of reference. What Theism does is attempt to express a fundamental human experience that is spiritual, it is typically described as a "transcendent" experience because it lies prior to and beneath language and concepts. Consequently, all statements about Gods are symbolic. They transcend their literal meaning while pointing to the power and meaning that is discerned and mediated through the symbol. The basis of faith is not inferential reason, it is personal encounter, our ideas of God will, thus, always be provisional and inadequate, they are an attempt to express an experiential reality that lies beneath or prior to language and logical thought.
In the mystical core of all faiths, transcendent Gods are always represented as something that cannot be fully comprehended from a human frame of reference. The devotional experience within Theistic and non-theistic Religions, all have their source in this individual spiritual experience that is common to all people and cannot be expressed directly. Hence, each religion must use the terms of its own cultural and social programming and each therefore emphasizes different aspects of this common spiritual experience that cannot adequately be described with words and symbols. As such, the excluded middle of classical logic simply does not apply.
Now, back to the concept of complementarity in Quantum Physics, I would contend that as it relates to Spiritual Reality, that Monotheism and Polytheism are complementary rather than at odds with each other or even compartmentalized as separate disciplines, so there is no excluded middle. I would further contend that Monotheism and Polytheism are referential to each other, which would mean that by definition they are one and the same. They are two complimentary aspects of the same transcendent reality so to speak. Then it is the mutuality of Monotheism and Polytheism that leads to truth. Perhaps that elusive "truth" that we are all looking for, is found in the dance of Monotheism and Polytheism, an interplay wherein the full truth is revealed.
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@TheMorningsStar
The "seem" gets dropped once you establish Polycentric Manifolds exist in reality. What is ontologically prior/fundamental must be something that exists, and so if something (Y) seems like it can be derived from X but X does not exist, then it does nothing to indicate how fundamental said thing (Y) is.
Polycentric Manifolds exist as mathematical objects, your analysis is really about the definition of mathematical terms. Athias is right, you are trying to make geometry an analog for Theism, which of course transcends the spatial and temporal.
Furthermore, Monocentric Manifolds and Polycentric Manifolds do not exist purely as spatial things, they can exist within organization structures (as an example).
No they can't, organizational structures can be Monocentric or Polycentric, but they aren't manifolds, and furthermore, your argument is not valid when applied to organizational structure.
It is just easier for people to understand concepts when it is related to them in a more common manner, which tends to be spatial or temporal. That does not mean said concepts are limited to the spatial or temporal, just that it is easier to understand them in said terms.
It's is certainly easier to understand concepts spatially or temporally, but spatial and temporal concepts cannot be understood to apply to Theology.
For one thing, your argument presupposes an excluded middle, and Theologically speaking, there is no excluded middle. I believe this applies to most faiths, a common example is Christianity of course, the concept of the Trinity manifests as both Monotheistic and Polytheistic, Hinduism's thousand Gods are all manifestations of the singular transcendent reality of Brahman.
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@Greyparrot
Anti-whitism is the new popular fad. Even advertisers know the truth about which color has power in America.
Oh poor baby, persecuted because you are white? That's just a white supremacists made up thing, one of your white supremacist slogans. You guys think if you claim you are the one being discriminated against it justifies your racism.
Don't be fooled just because everyone in your trailer park is white, diversity is what this country has always been about, it's here to stay, and you guys can't adapt for the same reason the dinosaurs couldn't adapt, brain the size of a walnut, and like the dinosaurs, you are going to go extinct.
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@Double_R
Ken Paxton, the Trump-backed attorney general, was indicted and arrested on criminal securities-fraud charges that are still pending. He has faced calls for his resignation after several of his top aides claimed he abused his office by helping a wealthy donor. And he has been serving as the state’s top lawyer while under threat of a possible new indictment, as the F.B.I. investigates the abuse-of-office and bribery accusations.And he’s still going to win.Which is quite an indictment of the people who continue to support him. Yourself included apparently.
Back in January 2016 he bragged about how morally and ethically banckrupt his supporters were:
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, okay, and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay?" - Donald Trump
His supporters have shown just how right he was for almost seven years now, I can't tell if it's the corruption or the racism that appeals to them most.
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@Shila
It's hard to keep track of all of Trump's legal entaglements, maybe this will help.Great link.Do you have a link to all the cases Trump lost?
Here's only a few:
The court ordered Trump to close his fraudulent charity
and pay $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds, $250,000 a piece went to eight different charities,
included the Army Emergency Relief and the Children’s Aid Society, he stole
from financially distressed veterans and poor children in need of nutrition, health, and safety.
He paid $25 million to settle the lawsuit about his fraudulent Trump University.
And of course, Trump lost over 50 lawsuits challenging the election outcome.
Here’s a list of Trumps 4095 lawsuits in just the last 30 years:
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Is it because Trump welcomes their support? Is it because Trump speaks their language and uses racist dog whistles? Is it because they believe Trump is a racist?
All of the above and then some.
"For a number of whites, these monumental social and political trends – including an erosion of whites’ majority status and the election of America’s first black president – have signaled a challenge to the absoluteness of whites’ dominance. These threats, both real and perceived, have … brought to the fore, for many whites, a sense of commonality, attachment, and solidarity with their racial group. They have led a sizeable proportion of whites to believe that their racial group, and the benefits that group enjoys, are endangered. As a result, this racial solidarity now plays a central role in the way many whites orient themselves to the political and social world." - Ashley E. Jardina’s 2019 book, White Identity Politics
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@K_Michael
Sure, the original story was Danish or whatever, but mermaids definitionally don't live in Denmark, so they can be whatever ethnicity or mix of ethnicities the creators want.
Actually, in the original Danish story, her skin was green, the Character has been whitewashed and blackwashing, it's green people that should be outraged.
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@Shila
Trump believes he declassified all documents just by thinking about it. So why is something like his Tax Returns which was on his mind for years not declassified?
Did he mentally declassify the documents before or after the FBI planted them.
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@Avery
No, I mean you saying TWS is a normal conservative and isn't a white suprmacist, that is batshit crazyEthnic nationalism is normal. Wanting your own ethnic space is normal. People of the same ethnic group are genetically closest to you (compared to other ethnic groups), and all people are the world prefer being with people similar to themselves.I've never seen a hit piece on China being too Chinese, or Israel being too Jewish, or Kenya being too African.It's only White people wanting their own ethnic space that it's criticised for being too White, that it's "white supremacist".TWS is on here advocating for White people, calling out double standards against White people, and calling out attacks against White people. This is normal Conservative behavior. Chinese, Israeli and Kenyan Conservatives will do the same.Calling normal Conservative behavior "batsh*t crazy", is batsh*t crazy.
Nope, still wrong, saying racism is normal Conservative behavior is batshit crazy.
Common, yes, normal, no.
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@Avery
Oh, well yeah, I'm being sarcastic too.
I read the news, I see what people say, when it feels like I'm trapped in a Fellini movie, I go with sarcasm.
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@Avery
The Human mind is single unitary thing, a whole so to speak, and therefore tribalism is too interrelated with other requisite functions to simply be removedHow did you conclude that this is the case?
It's a foundational tenet of Sidewalkerism, once you've been reprogrammed you will understand perfectly.
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@Avery
TWS is a normal Conservative.OK, good start, that's what I'm talking about, batshit crazy stuff like that.Oh so you're one of those people who think normal Conservatives all believe in "batsh*t crazy stuff".A perfectly reasonable position.
No, I mean you saying TWS is a normal conservative and isn't a white suprmacist, that is batshit crazy
Do you ever go outside?
Do you ever read his posts?
Try going to his website.
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@Avery
It's theoretically possible and desirable that the human brain could be redesigned to remove its tribal elements.
The Human mind is single
unitary thing, a whole so to speak, and therefore tribalism is too interrelated with other requisite functions to simply be removed, a better idea would be to adjust the tribalism function in a way that removes discord and conflict, a sinle cohesive tribalism would fuse the cognitive structures of the
brain into a unified whole and unleash the astounding power of a fully
functioning whole brain focused on just a single collective tribe called Sidewalkerism, that would be the best solution
and don't worry, I will be a benevolent potentate.
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@Greyparrot
Blueanon is more profitable.
Slow start, but hey, add some Antifah, maybe some shadowy cabal of Democratic pedophiles, and you're on a roll.
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@Avery
TWS is a normal Conservative.
OK, good start, that's what I'm talking about, batshit crazy stuff like that.
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Witch hunt, good news, that's all you got, where's the good stuff, Jewish Space Lasers, the NY AGs dad killed Kennedy, c'mon, you're not even trying, the least you can do is lay some "Q" on me.
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It's hard to keep track of all of Trump's legal entaglements, maybe this will help.
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Let the freak show begin, whatcha got, compiracy, deep state, secret democratic society of evil, or....maybe he broke the law, what do you think?
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@RationalMadman
Thanks man, I think schizophrenia explains the nature of the OP, not sure what he thinks we can do and I'd hate to do five hours and still not know.
A lot of conspiracies on these boards and I've already told someone to take thier meds lol, I think maybe he's already dealing with the correct professionals, and if he's not inclined to trust them I see no reason he'd come to trust one of us.
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@Terran_01
Help. Whistleblower. Gravely injured. Dying. Surrounded. Get this evidence out and save my life. No time. This is the motherload of real conspiracies, and it happens in every corner. You are all fighting the wrong battles and looking in the wrong places. This is not a game, so stop treating it like one. What point is there in fighting corruption, when there are loopholes in every country to grab, silence, torture and kill whistleblowers, witnesses and victims without a warrant, and make anyone who talks to disappear? Here is the proof you need, to justify what you know you need to do. Don't waste it. Please save my life. Hurry.
I read this and still have no idea what it's about, it's unreasonable to ask us to put almost five hours in to find out what the post is even about.
What am I treating like a game, what do I know I need to do? It's a very dramatic post but it doesn't tell me anything except that I need to invest almost 5 hours to even know what it's about. Information please.
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@cristo71
of course I'm going to see it in terms of raceWhen all you have is a hammer, every problem starts looking like a nail.
When an issue directly affects you and your family, you pay attention to it.
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@Greyparrot
You obviously didn't see the movie.That's fine, it helps me identify clueless edgelords and people of culture.
I saw it, loved it, and when he was holding the rabbit he was pure Hitler Youth, you cropped a swastica out of the picture.
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@Greyparrot
How do you know I am not a young kid struggling against a fascist state?
Because if that were the case using a picture of a Hitler Youth would not make sense.
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@cristo71
I know you “get a pass.” That… is my point! Conservatives know that criticizing an individual who happens to be black is not racist… another aspect of the point I’m making. Every Republican president from Nixon to the present day has been accused repeatedly by the press of being a racist, fyi.
Yeah, I know.
If you tried to tell me the Republican party was racist in 2008, I'd have landed on you with both feet, but in 2009, when I saw how my party reacted to Obama, I was ashamed to be a Republican, and then came Trump and the nature of what was happening became undeniable. What Trump did was show the Republican party that you can win by embracing the white supremacists, and rather than stand tall, they bent over and squealed like a pig, now I am proud to have left the party.
Where you stand on an issue depends on where you sit, and from where I'm sitting, of course I'm going to see it in terms of race, but I really think I'm seeing it the way it is. I know that everyone that supports Trump is not a racist, but I also know that every racist supports Trump, and there is no question in my mind who's driving the movement. I'm sorry if I offend, but not that sorry, since it's intentional, you may not be a racist, but you know who you have allied yourself with, and you should be ashamed.
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@cristo71
Ah… well, you hurl accusations of racism and white supremacy in a way that would make any progressive glow in admiration. In that case, a rewording is in order: luckily for you, you vote Democrat and the POC you lambaste does not.
Unluckily for you, you are forcing the moderates and the independents to vote democrat.
That, plus my family is mixed race, so I get a pass from POC LOL, my black relatives will tell you the same thing about Walker, saying Walker is a moron isn't racist, its just the fact of the matter. I've got white supremacist relatives too, trust me, I know racism and white supremacists when I see them. You may not really be a moron, but if you try to deny the Trump movement is all about white identity politics, then you are pretending to be a moron.
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@Greyparrot
You realize he won the primary against a bunch of while republicans lul.
Yeah, because Trump owns the primaries, he knows how to make Republicans lose, problem is he doesn't know how to make them win.
If you are counting on the few hundred KKK klansmen to keep him out of the Senate, you might be disappointed.
Nope, the Klan will vote the way Trump tells them to, I'm counting on a few million thinking voters recognizing that Walker simply lacks anything even resembling qualifications to be a Senator.
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@cristo71
Again— Luckily for you and your criticism of a POC, you aren’t a conservative, nor is Walker a Democrat…
Except for I am a conservative, it's the Republican party that is no longer conservative, I left the party when George Will left, and for the same reason.
In 2016 they gave me a choice between the last two people on earth I would vote for, so I voted Libertarian. Every Republican I know told me that was really a vote for Hillary, every Democrat said it was really a vote for Trump, it wasn't, it was a vote for the only candidate that didn't make me gag. But since then, as I watched the white supremacists help Trump take over the Republican party, I get what they were saying now, and you can be damn straight I became a straight ticket Democrat, my vote is against this dark force that is the gravest threat to my country ever.
You see, that's the problem with how Trump polarized this country, the Republican party doesn't stand for anything anymore, it's just about hating the opposition, and of course the opposition is all the same, you don't like diversity and you can't see diversity. Your pavlovian response to anybody that isn't with you just assumes that preposterous stereotype Trump painted for you when you stopped thinking and started mindlessly following. He said "Don't believe what you see and hear, believe what I tell you", anybody who swallows that KoolAid is not thinking, and now he tells you what to think and what to say and you say it.
You can't win an election without winning the moderates and the independants, Trump told you we don't exist, in polarization there is no middle, and the more you group us in with the Dems the further away you send us , I'm no lib, I'm George Will and everyone associated with the Lincoln Project, and you need our votes to win.
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@cristo71
For saying that, Walker gets this:“The Racist History Behind Herschel Walker’s “I’m Not That Smart” Debate Comment”
Yeah, I forgot Georgia Republicans wouldn't want an uppity black man to be senator, if they have to have a black senator, their definately gonna go with dumb as a post. Compulsive liar, history of domestic violence, secret children out of wedlock, and multiple personality disorder are just bonuses.
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@Greyparrot
Let's play a game, you strongman Walker and I will strongman Warnok. Just as a fun experiment. You go first!
I don't know that game, what does "strongman" mean?
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@Greyparrot
Now do Walker on the economy.
Sure, regarding the economy:
“My message is, I want to bring the economy down”
“It’s not right to tax the rich” (He made $41 MM last year)
“Inflation hurts women more because they’ve got to buy groceries.”
Oh yeah, and regarding bravery: “My favorite game I used to play, guys, was Russian roulette…Unless you can put this gun to your head, you ain't fearless like me. People used to think I was crazy. I would take a gun, put it to my head, snap it. Wouldn't even think about it.”
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@cristo71
Here's a few more Hershel Walker quotes for your review and consideration.
Regarding efforts to stem climate change: “They continue to
try to fool you that they are helping you out. But they’re not. Because a lot
of money it’s going to trees. Don’t we have enough trees around here?”
Regarding school shootings: " What I like to do is see it and everything and stuff…You talk about doing a disinformation, what about getting a department that can look at young men that’s looking at women, that’s looking at their social media? What about doing that, looking into things like that, and we can stop that that way?”
Regarding evolution: "Science said man came from apes and if that is true then why are there still apes?"
Regarding Covid he promoted “walking through a snake oil dry mist to kill any Covid on your body."
Regarding climate change/green new deal: "Since we don't control the air our good air decided to float over to China's bad air so when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move. So it moves over to our good air space. Then now we got we to clean that back up."
Regarding his intentions when he was holding a gun to his wife’s head: “I’m going to blow your fucking brains out.”
Regarding school shootings: " What I like to do is see it and everything and stuff…You talk about doing a disinformation, what about getting a department that can look at young men that’s looking at women, that’s looking at their social media? What about doing that, looking into things like that, and we can stop that that way?”
Regarding evolution: "Science said man came from apes and if that is true then why are there still apes?"
Regarding Covid he promoted “walking through a snake oil dry mist to kill any Covid on your body."
Regarding climate change/green new deal: "Since we don't control the air our good air decided to float over to China's bad air so when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move. So it moves over to our good air space. Then now we got we to clean that back up."
Regarding his intentions when he was holding a gun to his wife’s head: “I’m going to blow your fucking brains out.”
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@cristo71
Here in Georgia, there's going to be a debate, your candidate can't come up with a coherent sentence, he's a laughing stock, unless the debate rules say you have to tackle your opponent to win, Walker is going to be humiliated,If conservatives claimed what you do here of a Democratic politician of color, they would be labeled by Democrats and media outlets as racist and have no recourse. Luckily for you, you aren’t a conservative, and Walker isn’t a Democrat…
Even Walker agrees with me, in trying to lower debate expectations he recently said, "I’m this country boy. I’m not that smart. And he’s that preacher. He’s a smart man, wears these nice suits. So he’s going to show up and embarrass me at the debate October the 14th, and I’m just waiting. I’ll show up and I’m going to do my best.”
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@Greyparrot
That's what he looks like, why you gotta make fun of him?
I don't think his debate icon is actually a picture of him, don't think you are actually JoJo Rabbit either.
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@RationalMadman
Both sides have simpler minded people among them, one likes to share through compulsion (left wing) while the other likes to minimise sharing for the times they believe are worth it (right wing). Both mentalities can result in simpleminded outlooks.
That’s true, what I said in a previous post about extremist Theists
and Atheists applies to political extremists also.
Political extremists, both Democrat and Republican, only appear to
be opposed, but I think they are “polar opposites”, and to say that “opposites”
are “polar” is to say much more than they are opposed or separated; it is to
say that they constitute a whole. There is a reciprocal, transactional
relationship being described. Polar opposites don’t even exist without each
other, they are contingent upon each other, you just can’t have the one without
the other. Polar opposites are like the two sides of a coin, or the two ends of
a stick; they reference two opposing aspects of one and the same thing. Such
extremists are closer together than either of them is with the reasonable,
middle view.
This would certainly
explain why there are more similarities than differences between the online
posts of extremist Democrats and extremist Republicans, they only appear to be opposites
but are in fact inseparable opposites; they constitute a whole. Seen as mirror
images of one and the same extremist, they are not mutually exclusive at all;
in fact they are mutually sustaining, reciprocal in their true nature.
I think they are a lot like the dog barking at his inverted mirror
image.
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@3RU7AL
step one,dehumanize your opponents
This from a guy with a reptilian alien for his debate icon, but OK, done, new OP :)
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@3RU7AL
No Republican should be allowed to speak until they condemn Fascism.merging corporate and political power = fascism
Alternative definitions to go with alternative facts.
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Anyone who has tried to have a rational conversation with a Trump supporter recognizes that the problem with the obdurate and dogmatic closed mindedness of Trump supporters is
that everything is one dimensional, there's no depth, nothing at all below a
surface level understanding. Allow me to try to explain this phenomenon in the
context of the evolutionary approach of science.
Paul MacLean’s "triune brain" thought process posits three distinct
groupings of the human brain’s various autonomous structures that from an
evolutionary point of view developed sequentially in time, and is roughly
associated with the emergence of reptiles, mammals, and humans. The brain structures that evolved over time
on the way to making a human brain are the “R-Complex” or reptilian brain, the
limbic system or “paleomammalian complex”, and the neocortex or “neomammalian
complex”. As we
evolved each sequential brain development necessarily built upon and was added
to the preceding structures and result in the general behavioral
characteristics typical of the reptiles, mammals, and primates that
sequentially emerged and have the added new brain complex in addition to the
ones that had previously evolved. MacLean’s central idea is that human thought
is a complex interplay of separate behaviors characteristic of our evolutionary
development that developed sequentially as these brain groupings were added,
this model allows us to learn more about human behavior by examining and
relating the behavior of the associated three classes of animals.
Anatomical brain research, particularly changes observed after selective damage to cortical regions and brain mapping techniques, have since demonstrated a strong correlation between the behavior described and the brain structures described in the model. While MacLean’s model is not perfect, a great deal of understanding resulted and to this day, most brain researchers think along these lines. The brain did evolve in an additive way and specific types of behavior did emerge sequentially, and there is clearly a spectrum of behavior that ranges from the lowest level reptilian “brain”, strongly associated with the ritualistic displays, territoriality, and aggression of reptiles, to the last general brain structure to evolve, the prefrontal cortex which exploded in size during hominid evolution and in a fully developed form, is considered to be what makes us human. The prefrontal cortex is associated with planning, complex problem solving, regulation of emotion, and spirituality.
The aforementioned obdurate and dogmatic closed
mindedness of Trump supporters is a comprehension problem that stems from an
"R-Complex" (lizard brain) dominance, which is behaviorally
characterized by stereotypically reptilian ritualistic displays and the typical
instincts of dominance, territoriality, and aggression associated with Reptilia
class conduct. R-Complex dominance results in a
limitation to the range of logical or rational responses as reptile
typical automatic and irrational behavioral responses supersede the higher
level processes of logical thought and rational behavior. The ability for abstract thought is
compromised, and the individual becomes trapped in a surface level understanding,
making it difficult or impossible to comprehend symbolism, metaphor, and
meaning. The reason such close minded individuals are so dogmatic is that the
irrational reptilian instinct of territoriality becomes attached to ideas and
opinions which are then aggressively defended as a matter of
self-preservation. The associated
constant and illogical repetition of dogmatic assertions is the reptilian
phenomena of ritualism making an irrational attempt to socially delineate a
hierarchical position of territorial dominance in the realm of ideas and
opinions.
In R-complex dominance reptilian behaviors are amplified and the emotional and thinking brains are down-regulated, so for instance, attempts at logical, rational, and socially acceptable interaction trigger reptilian territoriality and aggression and ritualistic displays instead of logical consideration of the other person’s point of view followed by a reasoned response. The R-Complex dominance will desensitize limbic system characteristics such as altruistic behavior and the capacity for intellectual empathy are subordinated to the reptilian instinctual behaviors of aggression and territoriality, and the mammalian functions that allow an individual to distinguish between what is socially acceptable or unacceptable is compromised as the individual becomes desensitized to other people’s thoughts and ideas in favor of repetitive ritualistic displays and the species typical reptilian behaviors of aggression and territoriality. Social ineptness can result in societal isolation and an associated resentment because the reptilian lack of abstract reasoning and the related reptilian inability to comprehend or respect the affective states of others downgrades logical thought and results in a reptile typical and completely territorial attack approach to discussing other people’s ideas.
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@Greyparrot
No Democrat should be allowed to speak until they condemn Marxism.
No Republican should be allowed to speak until they condemn Fascism.
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@Shila
Both links don’t appear to be accessible.
I just tried them both again, both worked for me. In any event, they are both on Netflix, if you have it you can search for them, if not, my link was to Muscle Shoals on youtube, you can search on Youtube to watch it, not sure if Rumble is on youtube though, its well worth the effort to find out where you can see it.
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@RationalMadman
All the did was point in the air, there are only so many new salutes to invent...
Oh pulease, all they did was point in the air while the Qanon anthem "Wwg1wga" played, which stands for the QAnon slogan “where we go ONE, we go all”
Maybe not a new salute, but in context, it's clear they were saluting Qanon...the OP is right, Trumps gone full Qanon. He's threatening violence is he's endicted, and Qanon are his enforcers, in his mind at least, he's threatening the DOJ. I'm not seeing an act of strength, I'm seeing an act of desperation.
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@ebuc
Yep, saw it, it was fantastic.
You'd probably like another fantastic music documentary, Muscle Shoals, check it out.
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@Greyparrot
Many Jews also sympathized with the Germans. Cuck strong friend.
Well there you go, you can probably count on both those votes, and then there's everyone on Trump's Truth Social, that almost a hundred votes right there...sorry, but even with all those votes you just don't have enough white supremacists to win an election,
I'm afraid you're gonna have to go with another insurrection.
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@Greyparrot
I think your Black supremacist movement is more likely over.
Don't worry, I'm white, there's nothing to be afraid of.
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@thett3
To win back the senate you need racist Trumpers to come out and vote for a black man in Georgia, and a Muslim in Pennsylvania, not happening.It’s probably happening
Maybe in your conspiracy psychodrama world it's probably happening, but over here in the real world you've already lost Georgia and Pennsylvania.
Fetterman had a stroke, dissapered and went up in the polls, he could probably die and quack doctor Oz will still lose. Here in Georgia, there's going to be a debate, your candidate can't come up with a coherent sentence, he's a laughing stock, unless the debate rules say you have to tackle your opponent to win, Walker is going to be humiliated, Warnock's lead will only widen, and Walker will be eating dust by November. For Walker to win, the racist Trumpers will have to all come out and vote for a black man twice.
This time around there just aren't enough of you white supremacists, not even in Georgia.
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@Greyparrot
come out and vote for a black man in Georgia,Just call him Obama. Problem fixed.
Really old news, since then there's been two impeachemnts, an attempted insurrection, the reversal of Roe vs Wade, and a plethora of criminal actions, none of those Trump Democrats are still there, and large number of the Trump Republicans are gone too.
Face it, your white supremacist political movement is over, you guys are no longer relevent.
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@thett3
Yeah I can tell this event clearly had absolutely no emotional impact whatsoever on you lol. I’m definitely living in a fantasy land, calling a rich lib vacation spot having to spend a whopping 24 hours dealing with 0.001% of what border communities have had to deal with for a with for the last 18 months “human trafficking” isn’t at all indicative of an emotional response. The stunt definitely didn’t bring Biden’s disgraceful border crisis back to the forefront. Liberals don’t look like “migrants for thee but not for me” hypocrites at all. I’m so owned right now
Man, that's some erection you have.
Come November this stunt will only ensure the Trumpers that were already voting his way will vote his way, it may help you with the next insurrection, but it isn't going to help you win the election. Over here in the real world, abortion AND GOP racism will still be issues, you just don't have enough crazed fanatics to win an election.
To win back the senate you need racist Trumpers to come out and vote for a black man in Georgia, and a Muslim in Pennsylvania, not happening.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You’re a liar. A MAGA liar. Just like Trump
Oh sure, over here in the real world it's a lie, but they have thier own seperate Trump reality, in thier conspiracy world psychodrama, it's not a lie, its an alternative fact.
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@thett3
There’s a difference between something getting coverage briefly and getting the wall to wall emotional meltdown DeSantis’s stunt caused
That was the intent, and you guys were screeching about Democrats having an emotional meltdown before anyone had even reacted, thats how conspiracy thinking works, independent of the real world.
But hey, a lot of people are going to have a strong reaction to human trafficking as a political stunt, Desantis was counting on that, he was also counting on it giving you guys an erection, apparently it worked, now go take a cold shower, the real world isn't nearly as dramatic as your conspiracy world. .
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