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That doesn't even touch on how many will die when this over reaction causes the next great depression

If it is overblown than you are literally siding with the conspiracy theorists who acknowledge the media is sensationalist

Zedvictor4- "If you don't believe what most people believe about everything than you are a cool aid drinker"

Also Zedvictor

"I am unique and special not like all these other morons"

That iis retarded. You are literally sitting g here saying the media does not ever sensationalize things and should be taken at their word, and telling me I live in fantasy land. 

You are an idiot. They said it was footage from an american hospital when it was from an italian one. Why are you okay with that lie? 

Also the word has is used as rhetoric to mean the media is sensationalizing things. Would you like to debate me on whether the media sensationalized things

Here is another example of the news using fake footage for corona virus https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/cbs-admits-to-using-footage-from-italy-in-report-about-nyc/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjStvm0-YTpAhXZGs0KHbAtBeEQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw00fghh1JZkFhdY2mRQl1TD&cf=1

And it is irresponsible because they were clearly implying they were using footage of actual hospitals during the corona virus, that is why this stock footage was also surrounded by non stock footage. If you think that the media is always correct and has never once sensationalized anything, I'm not sure what to tell you

Why would they not make it obvious it was stock footage if that is the case? Does that sound like responsible reporting, to use stock footage and then try to imply it was footage of a corona patient?

We have proof covid 19 is a hoax. The media is using fake footage and sensationalism.  Check this evidence out https://youtu.be/KZHzKEqlvWI

The video is absolute proof of lying so watch it now before it is removed

Notice pro does not even challenge my premises, just the conclusions. He doesn't even challenge the structure of my arguments.

Literally a video proving the media is lying https://youtu.be/KZHzKEqlvWI

They used a dummy and claimed it was a covid19 patient

Implying all hospitals are being overwhelmed 30 days ago

That article directly says new York's largest hospital is empty. 

We are just arguing my premises right now. 

P1- the media is wrong about it's portrayals of all/most hospitals as overwhelmed 

P2- the only motive for doing that is to back up untrue claims, (true claims don't need lies, sensationalism etc.)

C1- seeing as how the media would only lie if they were wrong and they are wrong, it proves the coronavirus is not as bad as they are stating. 

I respect the fact bill Maher is not an NPC and actually looks at all the facts, even though he is usually wrong. 

What about my sources showing hospitals are not over crowded. Even politifact has confirmed the conspiracies about empty hospitals is true. Here is one that shows the media is using fake images https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-news-admits-mistake-after-airing-footage-of-overcrowded-nyc-hospital-that-was-actually-in-italy

If the media's narrative is true, why would they lie? Think about it. If the truth is on your side,you would have zero reason to sensationalize, lie or practice any sort of phony alarmist. 

Thank you

I also feel like it is more intuitive to put the accordion button on the left instead of the right but not that big of a deal. That or change where the options pop out from the left to the right so it is more intuitive

Actually pro seems reluctant and on the list I would rather water represent us. So I am going with wp

I figured out what was bothering me. I can't see alerts on mobile while in the forum. 

I disagree. It would be harmful to my political position if I didn't think people were predominantly good. I think a society where people are mostly bad should be proof that liberal ideals are superior. At least their economic ideals. 

I think people should be allowed guns, because I think most people will act responsibly with them and not put me in harm's way. I believe in less restrictions on businesses becaus I think they are smart enough and well intentioned enough to put long term good over some short term profits. J think big corporations are evil and things with too much power don't get me wrong, which is why I want a free market. Restrictions usually benefit one company over another and as a result less people enter the market,meaning they get too much power and are corrupted by it, but in a conservative society less big business would exist. It would mostly be mom and pop shops, and you can depend on your neighbor to be honest with you and good towards you, and if not then unlike big corporations you can just go to another neighbor which would harm that person's livelihood. Etc etc ad nauseam 

Hell even protest groups like antifa which operate in a non hierarchical manner proving conservative ideals right, out perform their peers such as top down soros funded protest groups. Spontaneous order is right and wins every time. Look at debateart vs debate.org also. That site was destroyed due to an unresponsive top down approach will this community led site flourishes. Reality disproves liberalism over and over

Apparently the constitution did not work. I blame boomers. Fucking hippies who were anti government and free love until they gained power and once they had the reigns of government, they were like, okay having control of everything is awesome. 

Exactly why they destroyed small businesses, a few large corporations are easier to control than a million different small businesses. 

Their narrative is being crushed though when you look at conservative or libertarian like solutions destroying them. Linux is the best operating system and is basically libertarian spontaneous collectivism at work, while windows is the result of a top down hierarchy. Yellow cab is a fascist regime and the libertarian uber is destroying it. Hotels owned by big corporations are inherently fascist and they are losing tons of money to air BNB. Anytime liberal top down ideology like windows or yellow cab go against libertarian ideals in action like linux or uber,you see they are destroyed by an non partisan look at quality. 

You seen all the articles about empty hospitals backed up by the united states Navy and we even have texas hospitals with layoffs because the hospitals are so empty. Now here is CNN directly tryi g to imply all hospitals are overloaded and that the pandemic is real contradicting nearly every medical professional in the country. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/us/brooklyn-hospital-coronavirus-patients-deaths/index.html

People are literally dying of heart attacks because fascists are spreading rumor that we have a pandemic and people are afraid of having hospitals so busy they won't be treated. Every heart attack death that would have been prevented is the fault of people like oromagi spreading fake news

I watched CNN the other day and they were reporting all hospitals are overwhelmed. 

New y9rk city hospitals are dead. https://www.businessinsider.com/why-nycs-largest-emergency-hospital-javits-center-pretty-much-empty-2020-4

The place with the worst of the "pandemic" outbreak has occurred 

Another article https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/23/accident-and-emergency-department-coronavirus-hospital-serious-conditions

Is the navy lying about empty hospitals https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/04/23/navy-comfort-westchester-county-center-coronavirus/3010754001/

I want to screen shot the posts from the facebook group, but don't want any back lash towards these nurses as it is a private group. Quick question though. Do you think our trusted medical professionals are lying? Do you trust a sensationalist media over medical professionals? Why would all the nurses in that facebook group be lying? I also have cousins that are nurses. I will text them later to see if hospitals are significantly over crowded right now. 

I can't believe you fuckers are falling for this. My wife is part of a facebook group of nurses and they are all reporting less work than normal and being bored. Yet we have the news reporting overflowed hospitals. I saw a youtube video of some guy in New York the other day who showed up to the hospital and the place was a ghost town. This shit is a hoax

I don't understand people. I have used this as motivation to eat healthier and work out more, so if it attacks me, I am more likely to survive. People should be preparing by ramping up their immune system. What is really scary is that instead of catching this early, they have made it more deadly by pushing back a lot of cases to flu season. Catching flu or corona is unlikely to kill you, but both at the same time is terrifying

Oromagi "if all humans die because of a depression induced by the flu, it is good because wildlife benefits" 

What is with homosexuals not caring about the future. I think Keynes was like this as well. Wanting to base eco comic decisions on the present instead of focusing on what the 100 year cumalitive effects will be. 

I should have read more carefully.  I see what you are saying now

I will try to change it on my own. I can't explain it. It just feels wrong. Maybe I just need to give myself time to get adjusted. 

Please make it so I can toggle out of the mobile version of the site. Not a fan of the mobile version

Bold claim there that zero people will die. Not even one freak death as a result of the coming depression that will steal your chances of a middle class life. 

Could you explain why you think that shitting everything down so people starve to death will improve the economy or maybe direct me to an economist claiming it is good for the economy so I can read their argument

Here is a better article that proves conservatives are smarter than your average liberal who makes 1st order solutions. "Derp rent too expensive let's do rent control" while conservatives actually look at the impacts of policies https://www.speakfreely.today/2019/09/28/intelligence-negatively-related-socialist-beliefs-data-shows/

Studies show libertarians are smarter than democrats.

Your philosophy is what a 2 year old would have. Poor people don't have enough money, we should give them some. It takes somebody with a brain to resist that liberal attitude and say hey maybe improving the eco omy so they aren't dependent on the state is a better ideal.

Education is not on par with where it should be so liberals are like 2 years. Most obvious thing throw money at the school system. It is like they are too stupid to look at statistics such as that washington DC has the highest spending per child and still has the worst school system. But like a 2 year old "deep give them money"

I was a liberal when I was like 5. Because 5 year olds believe you solve homelessness by giving the homeless money or solve the people of crime by arresting less people instead of a solution. That takes a brain such as fixing a lot of the socio exo comic factors at play that cause crime. 

Keeping having your philosophy of "derp do most obvious thing a 2 year old would think of and claim moral superiority, derp"

Sanders was the anti establishment candidate. People saying they want change. Putting Biden in office will not accomplish those aims. Sanders also pulled some republicans while biden really doesn't.  We also have the issue that biden literally has dementia and it is not a good ideal for him to be president regardless of your political persuasion. 

Grey parrot. 

Yes. But I will forget by Tomorrow so remind me a week prior

Why would I discuss it after the IQ test. If I am some idiot spouting nonsense I should be easy to beat, so why have a problem. adopting the belief system of somebody smarter than you, if it is impossible?

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