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@Lunatic
???
Why'd you make yours so narrow lol you could've just screenshotted mine
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@oromagi
speed is always scum. I don't even understand why it's not freaking everybody out how often speed is scum.
It freaks me out how often I'm scum
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@MisterChris
I will say that my role operates during a "twilight phase".... Gonna guess that's what Drafter is substituting for a night phase.
Shouldn't have said that. Twilight phase is in-between the flip and the NP and very few roles use it
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@Vader
Good morning its 11:55am for me so it's morning
It's 11:58 for me and it is definitely NOT morning
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I procrastinated homework so won't be on much until this afternoon
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@Bullish
So after white died none of the mafia left would have been copped guilty anyway
Well for me, if your action got redirected it would be sus and that would probably give me away
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That should have immediately pinged my radar that he was in fact the scummiest.
Dead
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@Elminster
If drafter lets me play sure.The chances of that happening are roughly 0 lol
Forgot about that lol
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@Greyparrot
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@MisterChris
@Elminster
You know you wanna
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@Danielle
@Bullish
@warren42
@WaterPhoenix
@Crocodile
Joinnnnnnn
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@Vader
@MisterChris
Thx, fun times!
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@warren42
I think I'm too biased to say if I was actually prideful about the Supa kill lol but I was genuinely surprised that everyone thought it was such a bad kill
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@Lunatic
Lol thanks. You still manipulated me in the end though. Fuck haha
Just how the cookie crumbles, or how the town burns?
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@Lunatic
Oh bruh I forgot to tell you this but HUGE props for this:
I'll ignore the fact that this is WIFOM and indulge you because you just proved my own point on why you wouldn't have killed me. You yourself said you don't fear a 1x role, which is also me. And for a bit of reverse WIFOM, it seemed at the end of last day phase I would pursue drafter today. If scum thought I would help them with a mislynch, they would 100% leave me alive. It's exactly the reason I planted that seed that I thought drafter was behind the kill.
I completely ate this up the DP before which is why I didn't NK you or Drafter lol. That was a phenomenal play
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@Greyparrot
@whiteflame
Thx for the fun times!
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@ILikePie5
Thanks for playing and congratulations!
Thx man, fantastic setup
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@Lunatic
I hate you.
<3
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GGs all around
Really well-balanced I think
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Unless I'm missing something about that
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@Lunatic
You telling speed to lynch me just looked like you were throwing cuz you thought you lost.
All I would've said was "VTL Lunatic, warren can't hammer because he would lose since I'm soldier"
And obviously warren wouldn't hammer since he knew I was scum lol. So I don't think it would've done anything
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@Lunatic
From now on the policy is: Lylo with speed? Lynch him. No matter what. Fvck I hate you. Why are you so fvcking good
Noooooooo don't do that you don't wanna ruin my scumstreak
I'mma have to start killing you earlier on
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And we even had the huge fight between Lunatic and drafter lol
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@Lunatic
@warren42
Also wanna point out that this played out almost exactlyyyy like Office Mafia
First maf gets lynched for behavioral reasons (WF and SirAnon)
Second maf gets lynched for making a scumslip (Supa and Grey)
Then I magically avoid the cop and go all the way to LYLO with Luna
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@warren42
Yeah but you opened both the past two DPs set on me. I would’ve tried to hit that home that you cared way too much about the lynch target
That would've been smart for sure, I was sooooooo scared that if we lynched you Lunatic would immediately turn on me
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@Lunatic
The power of a bus.
Lolll I really didn't even see it as a bus tho. Like I just read the room and was very certain WF would get lynched so I hopped on early
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@warren42
If speed was the soldier he could have lynched you to achieve the town win con too. I wanted to see how he reacted without tipping my hand.
Lol I already thought about this. All I say is "VTL Lunatic, warren can't hammer because since I'm soldier town would win"
That's what I would've done lol
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@Lunatic
JK lel just kidding >:)
I just KNOW you hate me now xD
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@warren42
Speed took this as a bit of an insult. He’s a hell of a mafia player. He knows that. So I come in and say “no good mafia player makes that kill.” He doesn’t like that. Look at him subtly defending the kill. He talks about how GP and WF obviously were okay with it and I say “no, if I’m mafia I grab the bull by the horns and nix that kill”
lol I was showing how your logic of "I wouldn't do this as mafia" applied to everyone
His pride got in the way and he had to defend the fact that either he didn’t make it alone or it wasn’t so bad a kill after all.
I'm actually cackling
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@Lunatic
Well my gut screams warren, but I would almost lynch speed just because the pain of getting outplayed by speed again hurts worse. Please make your cases against each other. Use as much WIFOM and behavioral analysis as you can. At least a paragraph or two doesn't have to be an essay. I just wanna do the game due dilligence. I fvcking hate lylo,
I had no incentive to kill drafter. I would've had to bus both GP and WF HARD and really had no incentive to do so. Also the kill on drafter is likely from warren because drafter was unbudgingly on Warren.
I dunno I feel like that's it. And all of the reasons you scumread warren apply I guess but for me it was always POE
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Because the soldier wouldn't be the last town alive, you would be
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@Lunatic
hold up im confused lol I thought we would have won if speed was soldier what am i missing
If warren lynches me, he wins.
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@warren42
Speed you little fucker you did it again
I'm dead
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@Lunatic
lol he lynches the soldier and wins. That's exactly what he's gonna do
It's up to you
VTL Warren
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yeah hammer the vtnl I wanna end the game tonight
Cool
VTNL
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@Lunatic
Guarantees us 2 townies confirmed.
OHHH from my perspective I had you and drafter already. That makes way more sense nvm
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@Lunatic
Thats hella helpful because we know whoever he is framing is an either him or the person he's framing scenario, so we can poe the other...
My point was just it's always gonna be a "Warren v Speed" scenario or a "Warren v drafter" scenario. If you think just choosing one of those is better then that's fine but I don't see how that's gonna really be different than the info we already have
But VTNL is fine if you think having one of those specific scenarios is fine
Just let me know when you're done talking through this and I'll vtnl then
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@Lunatic
If your town this is only the case for you. Outcome is undetermined until we get results from his backup which he reportedly can use tonight.
See above post, his results won't matter since it doesn't reflect his affiliation
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@Lunatic
It forces warren to get results or fake results, making it an either/or situation if drafter motivates him. If he claims roleblocked he scum because no one has claimed roleblocked so far lol
If he's town, he finds out scum is me or drafter (from his perspective). If he's scum, he just says scum is me or drafter. I don't see how those scenarios are going to change what we think because they give absolutely no reflection on his affiliation
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Basically, mafia killing me is suicide. But the following NP they still have the chance to kill me and win. So maf won't kill me, and obviously between drafter and warren they can't kill the other and get rid of a potential mislynch. So VTNLing does nothing, which is why I didn't VTNL
If you want to VTNL that's fine with me since the ultimate outcome will be the same, but ultimately it's just a waste of time
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@warren42
Why the FUCK did you guys hammer before the cop was able to post
+1111
And no, there’s a very particular reason I need to hear why speed voted for me immediately.
Because drafter and Lunatic are town
So we no lynch. If speed doesn’t die, he’s at F3. Then it doesn’t matter who gets lynched, town wins. Speed didn’t even think to consider that. Why not, speed?
I already thought about VTNLing. If we VTNL, scum waives. If they don't waive, they HAVE to kill me. The problem then is, it's still up in the air between warren and drafter as to who is scum, and that is something Lunatic chooses. If scum doesn't waive, there are then THREE possible mislynches, which is better odds than two. Then maf tries to get a mislynch, and they kill me the following NP, and they win.
So VTNLing doesn't do anything because no matter who scum is, they'll always waive.
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