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Speedrace

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guessing speed janitored doc from pie and waived the nk to make it seem like he self protected. Its likely why supa saw no one else visit him
GUYS SUPA SAW ME VISIT MYSELF

I'M CONFIRMED DOC

REMEMBER???? CHRIS TOLD SUPA I VISITED MYSELF

THIS IS CONFIRMING ME AS DOC
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WWII Nations Mafia - DP4
BTW, there are two scum left. If it was just Mikal, after lynching me, he'd get lynched. So we have to get this lynch right
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WWII Nations Mafia - DP4
We lost lol
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VTL Elminster
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@Vader
@ILikePie5
Please don’t make me scum
Same

gets scum together
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WWII Nations Mafia - DP3
This is me actually wagoning  
lollllll
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He better be guilty bruh
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@Vader
If oromagi flips scum, that means
Lunatic is likely scum
Mikal is likely scum
What? If Oro flips scum, that means Mikal is likely town...
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@Greyparrot
Because your "just do it" justification makes it more likely oro is scum, and that you should be ignored for now.
What? If Oro is scum, then I have to be town...?

And what "just do it" justification
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@Greyparrot
It's either you or supa.
So remind me why you're voting Oro?
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@Greyparrot
When Oro flips scum, would speed be automatically guilty?
If oro flips scum, that means I'm town lol wdym
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@Elminster
its weird its like we don't have a doctor  
I already said I'm a 2x doc
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@Elminster
You're crazy if you think you'd live long enough to do give results lol. If you're actually town, they kill Supa this NP and then you
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@Elminster
Answer 426
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@Elminster
the opportunity of me being right provides results
Oh, wait a minute. So you can give us results this NP?
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WWII Nations Mafia - DP3
are you saying both gp and luna are scum and im town?
What? No
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WWII Nations Mafia - DP3
Speed is not that stupid that he can't see this.
I CAN SEE IT. BUT LUNA AND GP BOTH SAID THEY WILL NOT LYNCH YOU

Besides that, lynching you and then Oro is literally the same exact outcome
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@Elminster
gp if oro flips miller you promise to vote me?
I need confirmation from before lol. He's just gonna lie now
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@Elminster
they are refusing to vote me now because killing or o makes sense you potato
Luna literally argued with me for like 5 pages on why you're not scum, and he said he will lynch Supa next DP, not you

gp already said he would vote me if oro flips town
Where

My point isn't that they won't vote for you now, it's that they won't vote for you NEXT dp

you are actually braindead atm lol. 
Please point me to where Luna and GP said they would vote you if Oro flips town
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WWII Nations Mafia - DP3
if oro flips miller, I'm the obvious target. Anyone can see that. The more he does this the more it makes me think he has some fuckery role with results. 
Ok, please point me to a group of five people who will all vote for you if Oro flips miller. Please. Oh wait, you can't? Because TWO people are REFUSING to vote you? WOWWWWW that's crazy

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@Greyparrot
If I promise to vote Oro tomorrow will you vote  Mikal?
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@whiteflame
The only way that it's true that we won't be able to get a lynch off on whomever we want is if attitudes stay exactly the same and no one's willing to change what they're doing right now.
Precisely, and that's exactly what's going to happen


If that's a problem, then it's a problem whether we lynch Oro or Mikal.
That's literally not true. EVERYONE except Oro himself wants to lynch Oro tomorrow. So if we lynch Mikal and he flips town, we have the numbers to lynch Oro tomorrow because me, you, Luna, Grey, Supa will ALL be on him.

But if we lynch Oro and he's town, the only people who want to lynch Mikal left are me, Supa, Reece (possibly?), and you. GP is extremely stubborn and won't switch. Luna is equally stubborn and won't switch. And obviously Mikal won't lynch himself.

So what happens is, if Mikal is scum, he just kills me, you, Supa, or Reece. That way, there aren't enough people to lynch him (because you'll need 4 votes tomorrow).

Thus, we have to lynch him today

I don't see how lynching either one necessarily puts us in a better position.
You agree with me that scum is Mikal or Oro. We will not get a chance to lynch Mikal after this. Thus, we have to do it today. But we have all the time in the world to lynch Oro if Mikal flips town
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@Elminster
no im just assuming thats how it works based off past games
Nvm he told me that it does show up
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@Elminster
A lyncher would not show up as "scum" on a sensor so this literally could make sense. 
Did you ask Chris this? I just asked him and he confirmed that this is true
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@Vader
Well I'm ready to put the hammer on Oromagi if it is OK with town depending on how much time there is
Please wait for WF :(
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WWII Nations Mafia - DP3
Anyway, WF when you log back on, please don't refer to Mikal for my views lol
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Like you are literally assuming 3 mafia left. 
No, because the amount of people who will lynch Mikal, and the amount of people who will lynch Oro, are completely independent of how many mafia are left...?
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Also him saying that there is enough numbers to end. There isn't. 
That's not what I said. I said we won't have enough people to lynch Mikal tomorrow. The ONLY people who will do it are Supa, Oro, me, Reece, and WF. If Oro dies, then scum kills one of those, suddenly you only have 3 people to lynch Mikal but you need 4 votes.

The people who will lynch Oro, however, is literally everyone except Oro himself.
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WWII Nations Mafia - DP3
Like literally if Mikal flips scum then it's Oro.
If Mikal flips town*
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As town why would he no consider oro.
I am considering him for next DP. Like literally if Mikal flips scum then it's Oro. The only difference is, next DP we won't have enough people to lynch Mikal, but we will for Oro. So logically it makes more sense to lynch Oro
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Alrighty
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@whiteflame
Take it this way. If we don't lynch Mikal this DP and he is scum, they just kill me, you, or Reece and they have enough people to lynch Supa next DP. If it's Oro and he is scum, and he lynches Mikal this DP, he'll still have more than enough people to lynch him next DP.

So if Mikal is scum, this is literally the last chance we have to lynch him
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@whiteflame
Wait no, all Mafia has to do is kill Reece and then they'll have the numbers to lynch Supa next DP :/
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@whiteflame
That being said, if we both recognize that this is a choice between Oro and Mikal, then lynching Oro should at least be entirely reasonable for you to do at this stage.
That's what I'm saying about you with Mikal
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Wait no, it's impossible for there to be a tailor because Chris reveals affiliations after the lynch. You can't do that if you have a tailor
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WWII Nations Mafia - DP3
Read the stand and look at speeds behavior and just keep that in mind. 
Same except Mikal's behavior LOL literally acting exactly the same
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WWII Nations Mafia - DP3
Low-key thing mafia may have stuff like janitor and tailor.
We already know they have janitor, Drafter thinks tailor is OP and would've told Chris not to include it
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Also, if I was scum, I'd just go with the Oro lynch, then go with either the Supa or Mikal lynch tomorrow lol. Me trying to lynch Mikal today makes no sense if I'm scum
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@whiteflame
Well, I'm not so convinced about Supa being town, though I largely agree with you that it's between Oro and Mikal. I'll almost certainly be on the lynch Mikal train if Oro flips town, but I'm also seeing this as an opportunity to verify Supa's role.
If Mikal is town, then Oro must be scum b/c of balance, right? And there was only 1 scum on that lynch so that would town confirm me and Supa.

If Mikal is scum, he needs two mislynches to win, so none of his partners are on that lynch, so again that would confirm Supa and Oro.

So in both scenarios, Supa is town. We don't need to verify his role. Besides that, he claimed France and watcher unprompted, which scum doesn't do.

Also there's no guarantee that his role will be verified tomorrow anyway
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Because it would give us a dp4 sensor and is safe no matter what.
This is false because Mafia would just kill him lol
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@whiteflame
...Wasn't a large part of why we're sus of Mikal in the first place the result of there being so many investigatory roles?
If Oro is Town, that means there's a cop, so there can't be a Sensor for balance. Likewise, if Mikal is the sensor, there can't be a cop, so there can't be a miller, thus Oro would be scum. So it's either Oro or Mikal, Supa is town no matter what.

Having a Sensor plus a Cop, Doc and Watcher seems like a lot to me. We may not have a Cop, but this lynch on Oro would tell us that. Meanwhile, if we can verify the Watcher, I'd have a much harder time believing that we have a Sensor.
My point is that based on balance, we already know it's Oro or Mikal, so if Mikal somehow flips town, we just lynch Oro next DP. But because Mikal is acting scummy, he's more likely out of the two to be scum
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@whiteflame
But that's the thing: I see Supa as verifiable. If we can verify his role, then we can also verify that Mikal is scum. I've got my misgivings about Mikal, but I at least see a way to narrow the field and be more certain of that lynch in the next DP. I can't see any way we gain by waiting with Oro.
What does Supa being verifiable have to do with Mikal?
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@whiteflame
For that matter, while Oro hasn't made any slips, he also hasn't really had to (or been able to) prove anything.
Firstly, I think we can both agree Supa is town, I'm advocating for Mikal's lynch, not Supa's. But secondly, my point is that Mikal has been scummier than Oro and also hasn't proven anything, thus him being scummier should make him the lynch
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@whiteflame
Like I said earlier, it's almost certainly either Mikal or Oro.
My point here is, based on balance and game mechanics we have equal sus on Mikal and Oro. But Mikal has acted scummy, Oro hasn't. Besides that, miller is almost always a townie. Thus, that should make us lean Mikal
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@whiteflame
Let's see how Reece would vote first. We'll need 4 votes for Mikal next DP. Mikal, GP, and Luna will all vote Supa. We need to see where Reece will swing before rushing into this
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@Reece101
Pls vote Mikal, we need you to lynch him?
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Reminder: Oro claimed Miller off the bat, Mikal has been acting scummy this entire time and changed his claim from sensor to even-night sensor
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@whiteflame
If Oro flips town Miller, we'll have confirmed that there must be a Cop, which would basically confirm that either Supa or Elm are scum.
:(

If we do that, everyone will pile on Supa, and then we'll lose. We know it HAS to be Mikal or Oro based on balance, but if we don't get Mikal here then everyone will pile on Supa tomorrow and that's a loss, assuming 2 more maf members
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@whiteflame
Gonna log off, but just wanted to say that if Mikal flips town we can lynch Oro next DP
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Speedrace won't invest the time to teach you anything about the game; He wants to play on your current bias against elminster for simply voting you. Which means he is trying to use you, don't let him use you. You don't even have to wagon me. If you choose his side I just want you to at least know why what he is saying is ridiculous, and why supa has an overwhelming amount of evidence against him. Speed doesn't care if you understand the reasons, he just wants to see elminster lynched at all costs.
LOLLLLLLL
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