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@ludofl3x
But shooting it [beer cans] with an AR15 seems at least EQUALLY guilty of the dreaded 'virtue signaling', with an extra helping of violence, I just don't understand it.#131

And what about your tranny shooting up a school full of children and teachers and killing three of each?
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@b9_ntt
Wikipedia:
The name is derived from the song "Proud of Your Boy" originally created for Disney's 1992 film Aladdin but left out following story changes in production, and later featured in the 2011 musical adaptation. In the song, the character Aladdin apologizes to his mother for being a bad son and promises to make her proud. McInnes interprets it as Aladdin apologizing for being a boy. He first heard it while attending his daughter's school music recital. The song's "fake, humble, and self-serving" lyrics became a running theme on his podcast. McInnes said it was the most annoying song in the world but that he could not get enough of it.
FFS!
So Aladdin, a character from a animated children's  Disney movie says sorry to his mom and promises her  to make her proud? 

Are you fkn serious!

So how does this go anywhere in describing "proud boys" in the USA and what they are proud of?  

You simply cannot answer can you?  


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@Deb-8-a-bull
Dunking kids in water aint half as bad as Dashing kids against rocks. 
God does both. 

10/10 Deb.

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@b9_ntt
b9_ntt wrote: It looks like I'm interacting with a bunch of right-wingers. No use arguing ... neither of us will change our minds.

Well I don't believe that I am left or right. I go with facts not sentiment.  So I don't feel "loyalty" to any party - even in my own country. And  keeping in mind that I am English and I don't have a dog in the/ your  fight,  from where I stand Biden is a lying bumbling idiot that has no genuine interest in the welfare of the American people. Hence so are those that surround him and pull his strings. But that is my opinion and doesn't count for anything.



And you still haven't told me what these "proud boys" are proud of?  What is it? Their mothers?  Their education? Their children? Their fathers? Their profession? Their homes? Their motor bikes and cars?  I really would be interested to know. 
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Ok what I'm gonna have ya do Hen issss. 
Dont mention tradesecret in ya next ten posts.

Its rude not to reply when I am asked about our pathological subject, Deb

Andddddd. 
Dont be so friendly with this fucking goose.  

I will if it warrants it, which is highly unlikely.


His Your complete opposite. 



If i find out you two are (PM)ing  each other and being real fucking amicable like. 
Fwwwwwwww. 

The twat cannot hold a half decent conversation or a debate. So he's be totally wasting his time PMing me deb. The clown has me on block so he hadn't better risk doing that. Although the idiot thought he could trick me into believing he was a "new member" just recently. I think he misses me.

Good night . Deb.
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@b9_ntt
The Proud Boys vocally promoted themselves as violent actors,says one former FBI agent
I see. And I suppose you have clear cut evidence for this claim made by an ex FBI agent.


Maybe it was just a coincidence that Proud Boys appeared at the times and places of BLM protests.


It must be a trick they learned from Antifa. They seem to appear out of nowhere at the drop of a hat.
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@ludofl3x
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So are you saying that transexuals & and homosexuals have none of this.

I'm saying they're being infringed upon,

By whom?

Well putting the shoe on the other foot this can be said for parents not wanting explicit sexual literature about gender and homosexuality in school libraries.

THere are many steps between "explicit sexual literature available in school libraries" and "complete and total ban." Elementary school libraries are not an appropriate place for sexually explicit literature. But "My Two Mommies" is not sexually explicit literature, wouldn't you agree? Banning it because it's about a girl with two women parents isn't the same as banning it because it has graphic depictions of cunnilingus. Be realistic.

I am asking you what about the rights of parents being ignored about their concerns on what they wish their own children are being  taught against their wishes.



Are women not allowed then to have their own safe spaces where they can feel comfortable and secure? A man dressed as a woman in a woman's changing room makes them feel unsafe. Or don't you agree?
I'm not a woman, so I think if you want to hear about women's safe spaces, you ought to talk to them. None of the women in my life spend one second worrying about if the person in the other fitting room has a dick, and I've not seen a spate of sexual assaults or any real problem from having gender neutral bathrooms. But again, it's really a question for women. 
We are not taking "the other "changing room, and you know it, stop being so ignorant and disingenuous.



 If women have their sports encroached  upon, indeed invaded and taken over by men just because they say they are women, how long do you think women's sport will last?
So one of your top problems with transgender legislation is that it doesn't do enough to protect records in women's sports? Seems obscure. 
No.  you are being disingenuous, again. .The women can look after their own "records" if allowed to compete against other women and not forced to compete against men.


I've not seen a spate of sexual assaults 


Swimming Star Riley Gaines Assaulted by Transgender Mob at San Francisco State U: ‘F**king Transphobic B*tch’




Lesbians say trans-women coercing them into unwanted sex



 I have yet to see a "spate of assaults" against transsexuals.  Indeed, from what I have been reading and watching all the aggression is coming from the trannies.

This must be one of the most famous threats of aggression ever live on air made by a tranny ..

"cut that out now, or you'll go home in an ambulance"





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@ludofl3x
What rights haven't  they got that others have? Have these people got less rights and protection than anyone else under the law of the land? 
THeir rights of self ownership, self expression, right to the pursuit of happiness, and right to assemble have all arguably been infringed upon.

So are you saying that transexuals & and homosexuals have none of this.


I get what you're saying, but the time to fight for rights is before they're taken away. The first step to taking away rights is dehumanizing or minimizing or 'othering' them, and that can begin with stuff like removing books from libraries about them. 

Well putting the shoe on the other foot this can be said for parents not wanting explicit sexual literature about gender and homosexuality in school libraries.


U.K Teacher  enforcing LGBTQ propaganda: ON CHIDLREN

"you don't have a choice. If you refuse to do it, that will be dealt with severally"
What about the rights of women? These people want to my mind are taking away the rights of women to feel safe in their own spaces.
In what way does someone being allowed to dress how they want, request that others call them by a different name or pronoun, making women feel unsafe? 
Are women not allowed then to have their own safe spaces where they can feel comfortable and secure? A man dressed as a woman in a woman's changing room makes them feel unsafe. Or don't you agree?



 If these things are allowed to carry on we may never see another female champion in sport ever again.


Or, female sports will just get better because it's not a bunch of chicks doing layups anymore. 

I am sure you see the contradiction there.  If women have their sports encroached  upon, indeed invaded and taken over by men just because they say they are women, how long do you think women's sport will last?


 I get what you're saying, but the time to fight for rights is before they're taken away. 

That is what women are doing, and being vilified and called all sorts of phobes  and attacked physically for fighting for what are their by rights.


Swimming Star Riley Gaines Assaulted by Transgender Mob at San Francisco State U: ‘F**king Transphobic B*tch’



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@BrotherD.Thomas
MISS TRADESECRET GOING AGAINST THIS JESUS INSPIRED PASSAGE WITHIN THIS RELIGION FORUM

 The Reverend Tradesecret has done nothing but deny what is written in scripture Brothel D. except when it suites him/her to do so. And then s/he makes a complete arse of it and herself. This is why it is very rare you will see that bible cretin attempt to invoke anything written in the bible. 

Is all we ever get from the clown is how god loves us and how great he is, and sh/he's even wrong about that!
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@b9_ntt
 Proud Boys.
never heard of them. What are they proud of?
Really? I think they are white supremacist fascists. Maybe that's what they are proud of. Sounds twisted to me.

So you don't know what they are proud of so have had a shot in the dark. That sounds more twisted to me.

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@ludofl3x
 Like I said, you can call yourself what the hell you like but don't expect me or try to forces me  to agree with you. That is my pint and you know it is.

A human with a dick and a pair of bollocks is not a fkn woman. And he will never get me to agree otherwise. But this is the "rights" they will be insisting on. 
THere is no law that wants you to AGREE that someone with a dick and balls is a woman.
"there is no law";
Not yet. But in my opinion we are just a step or two away with incidents concerning alphabet people already being described "non crime hate incidents", for which one can be arrested, fined and imprisoned. As in the case of the ex soldier in the story that you do not want to even acknowledge.< This was only dropped after the story went international and it became a total embarrassment for the idiot officers involved.
Indeed the Police here in the UK even launched their own campaign  with billboards no less "reminding" people that "Being Offensive IS an Offence". Although their seems to have been some backpaddling on that now because of the utter madness of it all.

"Cops apologise for making up the law as they go along: Woke police force backs down over 'utterly chilling North Korean' (and wrong) claim that 'being offensive is an OFFENCE'".
They want you to legally have to treat them the same as everyone else, that's all. 

Well we are back to my question earlier.#137


What rights haven't  they got that others have? Have these people got less rights and protection than anyone else under the law of the land? 

What about the rights of women? These people want to my mind are taking away the rights of women to feel safe in their own spaces. Then there is sport. If these things are allowed to carry on we may never see another female champion in sport ever again.

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@ludofl3x
YEs, a student is within their rights to get upset if a teacher calls them something other than whatever they ask to be called, this is the right to self ownership. Use the name example to see why, right? If a child's name is Ngongala, and the teacher doesn't like that name, and decides instead to say "I can't say that name, I don't like it, it makes me feel weird, so I'm just going to call you....Mark." Isn't the student right to be upset? 


I was talking pronouns he. she, them. not given names.  I have just watched a teacher (someone respected in my day) get absolutely slated and screamed at because he called a him a fkn her. or is it her him.? Its hard to tell with all those little fkn brats shouting everything to the contrary. demanding



second, I'm still an asshole.

 Like I said, you can call yourself what the hell you like but don't expect me or try to forces me  to agree with you. That is my pint and you know it is.

A human with a dick and a pair of bollocks is not a fkn woman. And he will never get me to agree otherwise. But this is the "rights" they will be insisting on. 


I  didn't look up the one about the British soldier because again, that's not really a credible news site based on the way they write headline.


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@ludofl3x
I didn't look up the one about the British soldier because again, that's not really a credible news site based on the way they write headline.






Here's  a Christian website 





As far as misnaming you, the FIRST time I'd just be wrong. Once you corrected me, said "Hey man, my name is Stephen / Night Hawk," and I immediately (not weeks later while I get used to calling you Stephen) said "Sure thing Stephanie," I'm no longer operating under ignorance and wrong, we can agree now I'm just being an asshole, right?

Wrong. My skin is thicker than that.


It costs me nothing to call you Nighthawk. Literally zero effort or impact on my life.

 Or mine.

 My point is at some point, ignorance becomes just being a jackass, and while I don't think I should be arrested or fined for it,


 I agree, that was a typo above. It should have read Wouldn't and not would

Typo bold under lined>> Stephen wrote: " And I would want you arrested , fined or imprisoned for being such a fkn stupid ass hole, either"..#147

Is it right that student should ball and scream at their teachers for not using pronouns and demanding that they do?
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@b9_ntt
 Proud Boys.


never heard of them. What are they proud of?
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@ludofl3x
What about the rights of the parents  of children that do not wish their children (some as young as five) to be exposed this kind of stuff ?  

I'd say don't bring your kids to a drag show and don't let them read books about trans people then.

I agree. I could be wrong but hasn't a lot of this is taking place in schools where the parents haven't even been consulted?

don't conflate them with adult drag shows, that's done too often around here.

I wasn't. I specifically spoke of children being exposed to it. 


 Have you been to either a drag show or a drag story hour, in person?

Nope. But I know Adult people that have. But don't you conflate adult "drag acts" with transsexuals being invited into schools to reading stories to children .





I believe that they want the right to force me to believe something that simply isn't true. And they want the or A law to back them up.
No, they don't care really what you believe. I am not familiar with what law they're proposing to 'back them up,' can you explain it?
See below.


Isn't "misgendering" someone a "non crime hate crime/offence"?
Not in the states it isn't. It's just a sign of ignorance (as my own mistake in this regard has been pointed out to me). I don't think it is or should be a crime to be an asshole. I mean what if I decided that even though you told me your name is Stephen, I just referred to you as Stephanie, and told everyone else to do the same, wouldn't that just make me an asshole?

No, it would simply make you wrong and anyone that followed your lead would be just as wrong as you. And I would want you arrested , fined or imprisoned for being such a fkn stupid ass hole, either..

But we will have to see how far these demands go. With that said:


Democratic California Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation on October 4, 2017 that would punish health care workers with fine, and potential jail time, if they decline to use a senior transgender patient's "preferred name or pronouns." The bill was sponsored by California State Sen. Scott Wiener. (AP 
California health care workers who “willfully and repeatedly” decline to use a senior transgender patient's “preferred name or pronouns” could face punishments ranging from a fine to jail time under a newly signed law.


If this story has any merit, then this Governor is certainly one of the "ass holes" that you mentioned.

There was a story here in England about an army veteran being arrested for "causing anxiety" to the homosexual "community". 

UK police say British Army veteran arrested because anti-LGBTQ social media post 'caused anxiety':








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@ludofl3x
And who is that they believe are denying them those rights?  

Places that are outlawing stuff like drag shows and story hours, places that are banning books about these issues, I'd imagine that's pretty disturbing to see if you are among their population. 

What about the rights of the parents  of children that do not wish their children (some as young as five) to be exposed this kind of stuff ?  

 You mentioned "that they weren't asking for "extra rights"  above.

I believe they are. I believe that they want the right to force me to believe something that simply isn't true. And they want the or A law to back them up. Isn't "misgendering" someone a "non crime hate crime/offence"?


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@ludofl3x
What rights do they not have that any other citizens doesn't have?
They're not asking for extra rights.
I didn't say "extra" rights. 


They're asking for their right to the pursuit of happiness and freedom from discrimination, harassment and oppression. 

And who is that they believe are denying them those rights?  



I just wouldn't patronize those businesses. 

Well I should imagine that is what most have or are doing. I guess some just like to go that extra yard to make a point. 


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@ludofl3x
I'm not sure what you're asking...I don't think anyone was being excluded.

Its that you have said "  It's not saying "We'd rather have LGBTQ+ customers than regular straight old white dudes." It's saying they want to expand business to include both"#120

" wanted to include both"
My point being that the alphabet brigade were not excluded from buying this piss water in the first place.


Basically a bunch of weirdos decided "I'm going to kill this beer because I can't be drinkin' the same thing as some tranny!!!" 

They probably do not want to be seen as helping promoting anything they see as wrong and or perverted?

It's as with transsexuals demanding "their rights" . What rights do they not have that any other citizens doesn't have?

How did this conversation get from gun death rate to trannies on a tin?
 


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@ludofl3x
 It's not saying "We'd rather have LGBTQ+ customers than regular straight old white dudes." It's saying they want to expand business to include both.  .......Doesn't bud light taste equally disgusting 

Why do you say that.  Who was actually " excluding" them? What was stopping them buying alcohol of any kind at any time before there was a transsexual on the tin?
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@BrotherD.Thomas
As shown so easily, Miss Tradesecret FAILED AGAIN by bringing forth her equally Bible stupid "DavidAZ" clone .

Well as I pointed out above. It didn't take Tradesecret posting as "new member" DavidAZ too long to show his true colours. 


Tradesecret is simply just struggling to be relevant. Look how quick and abruptly he terminated his conversation with ludofl3x . ludofl3x had him on the ropes very quickly (as did I) and he simply couldn't cope.
So instead he preferred to make excuses, tell lies and cause an unnecessary argument/s rather than a civil discussion with a great opponent such as ludofl3x . 

I have said many times , to people with narcissistic personality disorders such as that Tradesecret suffers, the believability of the fantasy and his lies seems to be of no consequence.
All that seems to count is whether the tale helps him rebuild the facade of his greatness. Of prime importance to NPD suffers is their self aggrandizement and the propping up of their fragile egos, not the well being of their fellow men and women. . nor his 300 parishioners' that have to listen to him week in week out nor do those poor university students that he claims to lecture and tutor .

I'm sure moderation will catch up with him sooner rather than later.


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@ADreamOfLiberty
So what I'm getting so far is that Jesus strikes people with thunderbolts... so where's the problem? ............. Let's just let natural but supernatural phenomenon take out all the sinners

God takes far too long and usually takes far too many innocents along with the "sinners".. 

God doesn't know his arse from his elbow, so we all have to go down with the perves. I am not happy with that. Are you?


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Regardless of what you may think of me.
That doesn't answer the question.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So what I'm getting so far is that Jesus strikes people with thunderbolts... so where's the problem? ............. Let's just let natural but supernatural phenomenon take out all the sinners

God takes far too long and usually takes far too many innocents along with the "sinners".. 

God doesn't know his arse from his elbow, so we all have to go down with the perves. I am not happy with that. Are you?
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@Sir.Lancelot
Roosevelt is the christian maniac that got badly roasted by BrotherD.Thomas. 

It's not too difficult to "roast" a thicko, now is it?

Good on Brother D.👏
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@b9_ntt
Are you a fascist?

Nope, you my honest a goodness opinion.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
@oromagi. Just a few newsworthy links shown below of Catholic PEDOPHILE PRIESTS and their coverups of same: 

More than 150 priests, others in Baltimore Archdiocese abused over 600 kids: 

Investigation reveals widespread sexual abuse and cover-ups by Archdiocese of Baltimore:

The Baltimore Archdiocese hid dozens of child sex abuse cases:


WHO WANTS TO BE A HELL BOUND CATHOLIC IN THE 21ST CENTURY, RAISE YOU HANDS SO JESUS CAN STRIKE THEM WITH A LIGHTENING BOLT!


Amen, Brother D. AMEN!

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@b9_ntt
 Antifa are the good guys.

Well I believe them to be cowardly scum.  Just my opinion of course. Don't take it personal.😊
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@PREZ-HILTON
you seem antagonistic towards Christianity

 I have explained my stance on the subject more times than I can count.  It is the scriptures that I have a problem with. I don't care what you decide to label yourself. 
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@IwantRooseveltagain
No. I mean, So you don't agree that foreigners that choose to live in another country that has a culture entirely different to their own should adpapt to the cultures of country that they chose to live. 
How many different countries did England invade and try to impose their will on?
Not in my own life time.  



You’ve got some nerve.
Opinion.
But let's not derail your thread with other matters of invasion and conquest, such how land was stolen from the native Americans by your own ancestors.

Tell me more about gun culture that American was born and raised on. Let's start with that blunderbuss that you owned at only 12 years of age. Did you ever shoot yourself in the foot with it?
12 years of age, eh?  must be in the genes.



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@IwantRooseveltagain
So you don't agree that foreigners that choose to live in another country that has a culture entirely different to their own should adpapt to the cultures of country that they chose to live. 
Do you mean “foreigners” should have to eat crappy food and warm beer and be sexually frigid?

No. I mean, So you don't agree that foreigners that choose to live in another country that has a culture entirely different to their own should adpapt to the cultures of country that they chose to live. 


I got my first gun, a 12 gauge shotgun, when I was 12 years old. It was for shooting pheasants and deer. Then people went nuts and wanted weapons of war.

I never believed that I would ever have the wish to own such a weapon. Obviously you did, at such an early age too. 
Anyway. Tell me more about gun culture that American was born and raised on.


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@BrotherD.Thomas
Stephen AND the membership of this Religion Forum, when are you ever going to learn that what Miss Tradesecret says about Jesus and the inspired words within His Bible are to be taken with a MILLION POUNDS OF SALT!!!  

Well Brother D, I didn't ever believe that I would ever say this to you, but................. in my case you are preaching to the converted.

The Reverend Tradesecret (also posting under the user name DavidAZ)  has held the No1 spot for bible duncery  for some years.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
And I would have thought it simple common curtsey  for the foreigner to adapt to  his/her adopted country.

your sentence makes no sense.

So you don't agree that foreigners that choose to live in another country that has a culture entirely different to their own should adpapt to the cultures of country that they chose to live.
Still you are more than entitled to you opinion, as warped and cockeyed as it is.

Anyway. Tell me more about gun culture that American was born and raised on.




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@IwantRooseveltagain
No. England and the rest of the UK is going down the shitter because of mass immigration, legal and illegal. 
Your statement is indicative of the British people being unable to adapt.

Well You don't live here, sunshine. And I would have thought it simple common curtsey  for the foreigner to adapt to  his/her adopted country.

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@IwantRooseveltagain
You didn’t answer - mass murder or ordinary murder? Mass murder is mostly accomplished with semiautomatic weapons.

I seen that as a statement not a question.


But I do wish I owned a gun, considering my country England is going down the shit pan, I believe I am going to need one sooner rather than later.
Oh, you are from a second class country.
Thanks for the compliment, but I see it as a third world , third class country compared to the one I used to know.


England is going down the shitter because it is unable to adapt to a modern world.

No. England and the rest of the UK is going down the shitter because of mass immigration, legal and illegal. We have a clash of cultures going on here that is about to morph into a clash of civilisations.



Plus, you people still have a royal family, lol.

You mean a Monarchy. . Probably the only genuine thing we have left


I assume you need a gun to commit suicide 

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@Best.Korea
And you seem to be telling me that god chooses what he will create evil
What I told you was: "create evil" isnt equal to "create all evil".

Yes I seen that. But you didn't understand my reply.  You have used the word "all" in your own quote in defence of god not creating ALL things including  not ALL things Evil.

But the BIBLE contradicts you.

"All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made". John 1:3

"For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him". Colossians 1:16

There are many BIBLE verses proclaiming the same.. You will have to explain away why every single one of them doesn't  mean what they say.

It is pointless continuing this conversation while you are going to persistently contradicted the BIBLE and your god.


God is not your servant. Rather, you are his. 

That bible cretin the Reverend Tradesecret used to tell me that often. I didn't believe him/her and I don't believe you.


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@IwantRooseveltagain
what is the going death rate for murder by pistols 
Mass murder or just ordinary murder? Are you including suicides too?

No. I am not going to include suicide and that is not murder. The clue is in the name.


And I am simply enquiring as I have never looked at the subject. ..... until now.


October 26, 2021
"Handguns generally fall into two categories: 1. revolvers, which are "wheel guns" that hold about six rounds of ammunition, and 2. semi-automatic type handguns, which have smaller sizes that hold roughly seven to eight rounds, and larger ones with about 15 to 16 rounds".

"While semi-automatic rifles such as the AR-15 are a major flashpoint in the gun control debate and are often the focus of attention following mass shootings, there are only about 20 million assault rifles in the United States, a fraction of the estimated  400 million guns in the country. Instead, according to ABC News contributor and former FBI agent Brad Garrett, handguns account for the most gun murders in the U.S."





I’ll make a deal with you. If you agree we should ban and collect up all the handguns in the United States I’ll agree to allow ownership of semiautomatic rifles with 10 round magazines. Do you agree?

I am not American, sunshine.
 But I do wish I owned a gun, considering my country England is going down the shit pan, I believe I am going to need one sooner rather than later.
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Now a shooting in Louisville. Crime in Red states is out of control
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@IwantRooseveltagain
semiautomatic handguns with magazines over 10 rounds qualify as an assault weapon 


  I see. And what is the going death rate for murder by pistols?

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Eventually the Trans and Feminist movements will clash... Who will the right-wing join?
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@zedvictor4



 I seen the transsexual brigade  are now protesting that lesbians don't want to date them.

The worlds gone  tits up, Vic, lad.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
The reason we have so many mass shootings in this country is because of our lax gun laws and our proclivity for assault weapons.

I will assume that hand guns kill many more.
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The problem I have with Jesus
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@PREZ-HILTON
The flood wiped away most of humanity so he did kinda take out a lot of the prototype.

Well not entirely. The bloodline  was still intact. Seriously poor pest control, me thinks.


If you do something like build PlayStations, you should throw 10% of them in a fire somewhere.

Why? And which ones?







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@Best.Korea


No. "Create evil" is not the same as "create all evil". Obviously, God created an evil place such as hell to be home for criminals.
Read Matthew 13:24-32
"The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared. The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’ “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.

Stop it!. You are now telling me that the "servants" of god and neither  god himself couldn't keep an eye on the comings and goings in his own house?
And you seem to be telling me that god  cannot choose what is will create evil. When he tells us himself that he is " the creator of ALL THINGS!"

"All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made". John 1:3

"For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him". Colossians 1:16

“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn."
So god can't tell the difference between the weeds and wheat? 




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@Best.Korea
he had done in creating evil in the first place
God did not create evil people. New Testament clearly says that evil people are products of the evil one, not God.

 I have already corrected you on this a couple of time on various threads.

God said:

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7
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the-problem-i-have-with-jesus?


I see we are no closer as to why god demanded a blood sacrifice, and of his "own son" too.

 What is it with this god and sacrifices of blood anyway?  That's another problem I have with this story.

And here's another

Why didn't he simply just banish the "sins of the world " away with a god like sweep of his heavenly hand as quickly as he had done in creating evil in the first place?
Why was it only torture, and blood and death that would satisfy this so, so loving god?

Why did god not nip this "sinning" in the bud millennia ago?

Why didn't god just kill the first two sinners instead of waiting millions of years before the "sinning" got so out of hand that he had to send a flood wipe away all millions of sinners and animals?

Why didn't god simply realise that these two first sinners were not up to his specifications and do away with the prototype and go back to his drawing board and re-design and create a pair of that wouldn't go awry, like a human would do?

 It simply cannot be that old apologetic chestnut "free will".  It is not "free will" if it comes with a threat of death.


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Sports
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@Greyparrot
Wrong, sports definitely cares about trans people.

 And far too much.  These transsexuals are killing the chances of any budding sports women and girls. 

Unfortunately it is only women that" identify" as adult human females that can do anything to stop it. IMO, to begin with they should simply refuse to compete cocks in leotards, gym skirts and swimming suites. These perverts are nothing short of failures should they enter any sport of adult human males. 
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TRANSEXUAL PASTOR COMPARES CHILD MURDERER TO JESUS.
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@oromagi
“No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:1)

Don't worry, Stephen, my cock's big enough for the both of us.
Showing your disgusting sick perverted true colours, there  oromagi. Learn your sexual deviancy first hand from a young age did you? Local priest I suspect.

What is it with the Catholic church that attracts and or creates so many  sick sexual deviants, rapist and perverts.

All the £££billions donated  by its good  and decent god fearing Catholics to help the poor are not reaching its intended target but are being used to pay off  millions  victims of rape and other sexual abuses. 

No one should be surprised that you came out fighting to defend a fellow sexual deviant.  



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@FLRW
Now Eve is a fascinating creature for many reasons. The Bible tells us she is the first example of human cloning.

 I have always said that if we superimpose todays sciences over the creation of Eve we could be looking at genetic engineering.
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@TWS1405_2
Reading comprehension matters. Context matters. Semantics matter. Syntax matters. 

Reading my statement, contextually the word was meant to be fictionalized. But it was autocorrected. There is no way, contextually, that I mean factionalized. 

Again, reading comprehension matters. Context matters. Semantics matter. Syntax matters.

 I agree. And I understand NOW that it was a typo.

But your fkn rant after simply being asked for clarity was way out of order and wasn't "stupid" and neither was it "a waste of time".  

Are you calling me "stupid" because I did respond to the word  factionalized in your comment?  Here>


TWS1405_2 wrote: Jesus is a real person, but his intent and purpose in life was purely factionalized. 

Stephen wrote: 
Indeed. His claim is that he had only came to unite and save the lost people of IS-RA-EL, which were made up of the 12 tribes and other Jewish factions and sects. His mission was to rid IS -RA-El of Roman occupation in a uprising. This his why  his first 12 disciples came from the rebel country: Galilee.  That also happened to be the same location where the fire brand preacher John the Baptist came from.

Both were cut down before they got seriously out of hand. If the bible is to be believed.#72
IE  Jesus was only interested in one faction. The Jewish faction.  he attempted to "factionalise" the Jews into one united group. As you said, "reading comprehension".
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