TWS1405_2

You can Google it and find the answers yourself. Also, Dinesh D’Souza wrote “End of Racism” in 1995, I think, that spells it all out. It’s a good read. Check it out.

@<<<TWS1405_2>>>

oh, shit.  Who triggered wet Archie Bunker this time?

Denying a child the use of own body is forcing your will on the child.

All that enormous smaug-like wealth off political capital and institutional trust... wasted on mutilation and targeting children... what an absolute shame.

People have a right to do whatever they want with their bodies. If that bothers you, you are part of the problem.

Humans are not slaves. Therefore, person is not owned by another person. No one can tell that person what to do with own body.

Oh no, you blocked me 🥺

I sad now.

• "“Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases,” found that children who suddenly adopted transgender identities in adolescence skewed heavily female and frequently had preexisting mental health issues."
  
• "The paper found evidence that youth experiencing ROGD were involved in transgender social media groups and peer groups. It also found that youth with mental health problems were more likely to have socially and medically transitioned than those without."
  

• "Transgender gun owners, some of whom have armed themselves out of fear of a “genocide” of transgender people, have flocked to the 5,600-member r/transguns subreddit forum, sharing photos of themselves with rifles and tactical gear and discussing plans to defend themselves from “transphobia,”"
  
• "R/transguns users widely believe that transgender people are at a heightened risk of violent persecution and must be armed to defend themselves, according to the subreddit’s top posts. Their beliefs echo the rhetoric of trans activists, who frequently suggest transgender people are the victims of widespread violent persecution and are assaulted and killed because of their gender identity."
  

• "Seven months after the academic journal PLOS ONE indicated plans to seek further expert assessment on a study focused on “rapid-onset gender dysphoria,” the journal has republished the research with a series of corrections and updates by the study’s author to address concerns raised in the journal’s reassessment."
  
• "The notice of republication from PLOS ONE states: “After publication of this article... questions were raised that prompted the journal to conduct a post-publication reassessment... involving senior members of the journal’s editorial team, two Academic Editors, a statistics reviewer, and an external expert reviewer."
  

• "A transgender psychologist who has helped hundreds of teens transition has warned that it has “gone too far” — and fears many are making life-changing decisions because it’s “trendy” and pushed on social media."
  
• "Anderson is so concerned, in fact, she said she is considering ending her own pioneering work helping teens transition.
  
  “I have these private thoughts: ‘This has gone too far. It’s going to get worse. I don’t want any part of it,’ ” she said."
  

• "A major scientific journal has retracted a study on the social contagion of transgenderism in young adults and adolescents after transgender activists demanded the outlet retract the article and fire the editor responsible."
  
• "On May 5, a group of five transgender activist groups, including the “Center for Applied Transgender Studies,” and many individuals published an open letter demanding the retraction of the study “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: Parent Reports on 1655 Possible Cases” and calling for the firing of the journal’s editor, Dr. Kenneth Zucker."
  

• "A prestigious U.S. medical journal retracted a study that claimed that “gender reassignment” procedures brought mental health benefits. This happened after its authors admitted that the study found “no advantage to surgery” and that those who have had “gender reassignment” surgery “were more likely to be treated for anxiety disorders.”"
  

• "Springer Nature is doubling down on its decision to retract a controversial paper about trans-identifying teens and their parents. Despite nearly 2,000 researchers and academics signing a letter in support of the article, Springer nonetheless decided to retract the paper without disciplining its editor."
  
• "As punishment, activists flung every insult and accusation — no matter how baseless or horrifying — at Bailey that they thought might squash his book and its insights."
  

• "Although Walsh never arrives at a satisfactory answer on what a woman is, he does shed light on transgenderism, which is effectively a modern-day cult. Its adherents preach a false gospel of salvation to vulnerable people who lack the reasoning or emotional capacity to resist. As part of their conversion, these converts are drawn away from their communities and brainwashed to hate their former selves—making them even more vulnerable to manipulation. By the end, they are so thoroughly deluded that they distrust everything and everyone and ultimately give up their lives to the cult."
  

• "This is especially true in cases of so-called Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria, in which previously normal teenagers (usually girls) suddenly announce their desire to transition to the opposite sex. It is readily apparent how a teenager struggling with severe or even common adolescent angst could be lured into such a group."
  
• "Perhaps transgenderism is better described as a form of “social contagion.” This term refers to “the spread of ideas, feelings and, some think, neuroses through a community or group by suggestion, gossip, imitation, etc.” The explosion of cases of gender dysphoria, previously an exceedingly rare condition, over the last few years has coincided with a meteoric increase in sympathetic attention to the topic in regular and social media—thus suggesting social contagion. Parents whose children “come out” as transgender when their friends do certainly agree with this explanation.""
  

• "Knowles pretends to claim transgenderism and transgender people are two different things, and he was careful to use the “ism.” He said, “There can be no middle way in dealing with transgenderism. It is all or nothing.”"
  

"The problem with transgenderism is that it isn't true. The problem with transgenderism is that it puts forward a delusional vision of human nature that denies the reality and importance of sexual difference and complementarity. The problem with transgenderism is that its acceptance at any level necessarily entails the complete destruction of women's bathrooms, women's sports, all of the specific rights and spaces that women currently enjoy. 

There can be no middle way in dealing with transgenderism. It is all or nothing. If transgenderism is true, if men really can become women, then it's true for everybody of all ages. If transgenderism is false as it is, if men really can't become women as they cannot, then it's false for everybody too. And if it's false, then we should not indulge it. Especially since that indulgence requires taking away the rights and customs of so many people.

If it is false, then for the good of society and especially for the good of the poor people who have fallen prey to this confusion, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely. The whole preposterous ideology at every level."

I miss McCain vs Obama. We all knew McCain didn’t stand a chance but whomever won, we wouldn’t be the laughing stock (sic) of the world.

Spirit Four Primary Kinds

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@<<<TWS1405_2>>>

No, not my reality

Didn’t know we get to just pick them. Right wing arguments suddenly make so much sense.

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@<<<TWS1405_2>>>

A lot like adult gender reassignment surgery.

A) They have a right to do what they want with their body

B) Many reasonable interpretations of the Hippocratic oath would prevent a healer from promoting or assisting.

• "Euthanasia became a legal option for Canadians 18 years and older in 2016, who had to prove suffering from severe pain and have a reasonably foreseeable death, as well as two doctors signing off on the decision."
  
• "“[The law is] probably the biggest existential threat to disabled people since the Nazis’ program in Germany in the 1930s,” Tim Stainton, director of the Canadian Institute for Inclusion and Citizenship at the University of British Columbia, told the AP."
  

• "Canada has allowed terminally ill patients to end their lives with medical assistance since 2016. And eventually, even as early as next March, Canadians living with severe mental illness could also be eligible under the law known as medical assistance in dying, or MAID. But as you might imagine, that has raised many difficult ethical and moral questions, both about the motivations of health care workers who might offer the option and also about the competence of patients who might request it."
  
• "We suspect that this is the kind of dilemma that might resonate across borders."
  

• "A Canadian military veteran seeking counseling for post-traumatic stress disorder was offered a rather disturbing answer by an employee of Canada’s Veterans Affairs administration — medically assisted suicide."
  
• "Trauma and suicide are real issues facing not only the American military, but Canada’s as well, which makes the suggestion of a medically assisted death as a solution to post-traumatic stress disorder all the disturbing."
  

• "The VAC released a statement last week admitting to an incident "where medical assistance in dying was discussed inappropriately" with the veteran. The department pledged that "appropriate administrative action will be taken" after the veteran expressed outrage at the suggestion, according to a report in Global News."
  

• "Canadian Army veteran Kelsi Sheren was 19 years old when her life changed forever on a mission in Afghanistan in 2009. Today she's fighting Canada's push to expand euthanasia access to veterans suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)."
  

Shouldn't this type of topic be banned?

Even some kin of Coretta Scott King hate the new $10 million sculpture just dedicated to her and her iconic civil-rights-leader husband in Boston — with a cousin claiming it “looks like a penis”.

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@<<<TWS1405_2>>>

And the evidence to substantiate this, is…?

I dont need evidence to believe in something.

After all, people usually refuse to work well unless you yell at them.

• The peak of any debate performance is knowing enough about the subject to be able to argue both sides competently. 
  

Do you believe that’s accurate? 

Democrats save the economy after Trump botched Covid. Recession looks less likely than before

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@RationalMadman

A thread like this is just a reflection of the author.

Still, were a normal user targeted, intervention would occur.

By necessity moderators are callous. There are limits; but it takes a lot more than some sad projection.

Why are you participating in it?

Just keep this a normal thread, it didn't even have any person directed towards!

Yes, RMs awkward, extended self-admiration is always provocative but he was also on-topic.  MPS's burn was just in reply to RM and way off topic and so the greater fault here.  TWS's defense of MPS is clueless.

“What made you interested in debate?”

@<<<TWS1405_2>>>

What part of… 

Truth is an affirmative defense 

…did you not understand???? 

The part where insults are by definition untrue rendering the establishment of truth to be equivalent to proving non-insult.

If you don't get my sense of humour that's alright.

You said this 

but someone who has not been proven guilty beyond a reasonable guilt cannot be deprived of rights. 

*Rights are not things you have to take time out of your day to go to a courthouse to recover.

Under the new rule enforcement, the opposite should be true.

The derailing abusers should be punished, not the one to engage honestly. Cheers for your pointless post though.

Former President Donald Trump said in 2016 that a president under indictment would “cripple the operations of our government” and create an “unprecedented constitutional crisis” –

I think this thread is a good example of why nobody wants to sign up for this site, just a bunch of trolls dogpiling rather than sharing their own reasons for the thread title's question. Absolute toxic idiocy.

Sir.Lancelot @Mps1213

Debate doesn't change minds at any appreciable rate because the number of people committed to rationality as a core value is small and most of those have already come to the correct conclusions already.

I let go of that delusion a long time ago.

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@Barney

@whiteflame

@oromagi

@Best.Korea

They abused me and tried to gaslight me that I asked for it, that is quite literally what's happened here, still waiting on the mods to clarify what the rule enforcement is here.