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@MisterChris
the next DP, the full role PM of any eliminated users will be displayed (including his full role/character), unless obstructed/altered by some unexpected mafia role in the game.
Is Mhar known to have these role altering roles in his games? Like Judas as Anon mentioned
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@MisterChris
What's good about hated town claim is that it's easily provable in lynch, is a role flip via lynch a thing?
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@SirAnonymous
What's your read on WF, you left him out in #115
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@MisterChris
That said, I don't think it's a very strong tell of anything a
It's ooc behavior, that's what's weird about it, who knows the reason why oro is ghosting
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@Danielle
I have some guesses as to theme split but don't feel the need to discuss yet.I'm not loving the claim of Falcons as Hated at all. Who cares about the Falcons?
I like the fact that you don't like this claim, discuss theme when you feel the need
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@ILikePie5
He’s usually the dashboard guy
Ik that lmao, that's his signature move
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Bit odd that Oro is MIA. Usually he tries to hash out the theme.
How often is this usually? Didn't know oro was into theme analysis
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@SirAnonymous
Being active DP1 is neutral then, got you
Think it's soft town at least, moving the game
You have any character reads yet?
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@SirAnonymous
Theme is a good springboard to jump off of, but dive too deep and you will get lost, what I'm thinking now makes sense
Spurring activity is a pro-town move
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@Greyparrot
I hope that doesn't lose the game because we can't figure out the mod's theme.
I have a theme in mind now but it needs to be developed further
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Let's back off of oro, I think that's enough pressure beyond this point, no one else vtl oro
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There is no Jester
No one is motivated to be lynched then, we can live in peace knowing a lynch won't end the game, no mention of no TPs
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@badger
Why you suffering? Hope you well, what will find without theme?
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@Danielle
I'm not loving the claim of Falcons as Hated at all. Who cares about the Falcons?
Yeah this is weird, everyone wanted Atlanta to win against the Pats, Atlanta is memed to death with 28-3 but that's not hate, Atlanta is disappointment
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@Mharman
I've been logged out of my account, the activity check got.me back in, thank you
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@SirAnonymous
What are your thoughts on lynching in DP1? For or against?
I oppose unless we have sufficient evidence someone's mafia/TP, TP is policy lynch
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@Discipulus_Didicit
i'll be a replacement if you need one.
We need one
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@Earth
I guess I'll /in but I'll admit I'm more interested/knowledgeable about SnK than Kanye West.
Same
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@Earth
but at any rate I think we should NL.
Why do you think we should NL?
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@Earth
As for what to do at this stage, if the goal is to gain info, I think it's risky to lynch. A mislynch at this point ends the game. I don't necessarily like a VTNL, but as the Cop, I necessarily should be killed off during the NP. If I'm not dead during the NP, I'm the easy lynch during the next DP, and it strikes me that with these investigative roles, we could do a lot with even one NP even if someone is faking their claim. I think that information is more valuable than the potential of getting another crack at figuring out the theme split in a game where it's pretty likely that at least one scum is fake claiming their martial art anyway. Hell, if we're looking to be even more certain, we all agree that Earth is basically confirmed town at this point. He could Watch me during the NP, or, if RM doesn't trust those results, he already said that his Justice role wouldn't be compromised by framing, lawyering or a godfather. Confirm me that way, or have each of you confirm someone else and have the game sorted in a single NP since I will be confirmed scum if I survive this NP. All we do is go from MYLO to LYLO. Nothing substantive changes. We don't need my Cop or to keep theorizing about possible theme splits to win this.It seems straightforward to me. VTNL.
-WF #113
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@Earth
WF-Boxing-Cop
RM-Kung Fu-Justice
Earth-Judo-Tracker/Watcher
Mhar-Sambo-Vanilla
Supa-Capoiera-Vanilla
That2-Karate-BP
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@RationalMadman
I think the biggest slip ever is that Mharman and Whiteflame clearly got lost during their mafia chat and forgot I'd outed with a clear on Earth, there is absolutley no way they had the same slip this close to each other without outside communication, I would believe. Do you notice how Mharman hasn't said shit to me since that slip to justify it?
I see WF knowing Earth is town, Earth being WF's 100% town, I haven't seen Mha make notice of Earth being fully town tho
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@RationalMadman
Can I ask you why you guaranteed that Earth wouldn't die when you outed? I understand the bluffing idea but you do realise all scum had to do if they had a roleblocker was roleblock you and kill Earth to frame you, right?
I wanted to outplay mafia, I thought that they'd back off of killing Earth, but if they killed Earth to kill me I'd lead into me specifically being self-defense to save myself
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@RationalMadman
Supadudz's martial art and role yet to be claimed.
Supa claimed Capoeira-Vanilla
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If 3 Investigative town roles exist that leaves me, Supa, and Mharman
I know it's not me so it has to be Supa and Mharman
If we believe RM/WF that Earth is 100% innocent, and you believe I am innocent, then Supa/Mhar has to be someone's mafia partner
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@Earth
@RationalMadman
@whiteflame
Why do neither of you think there are 3 investigative roles? Earth what do you think is this possible?
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@whiteflame
Not entirely sure what you’re asking for here
How do we determine scum? What scum teams do you have most likely to least likely?
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@RationalMadman
Do you think Day Phase one AS REAL COP that I claim an alignment checking PR role and he doesn't CC me there and then?
See, that's shaky, Idk why WF wouldn't do this immediately as cop as me, but in WF's mind this isn't a CC:
Justice is a bit weird, but I never saw it as a CC for the Cop, and Luna will often throw in underused roles.
-WF #192
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@RationalMadman
Do you think Day Phase one that I claim an alignment checking PR role and he doesn't CC me there and then?
This is missing a few words
You will notice that almost all of my replies and questions have probed thought processes today, your thinking process is townier than Mharman's is. Mharman's seems concocted. As for Supadudz... Let's avoid an insult...
Why is my thinking townier than Mhar?
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@whiteflame
I’m not convinced that exploring theme splits is the way to go here. We’re mainly just spit-balling, and even with all the claims on the table, we have 3 or 4 potentially viable splits, all of which could be wrong and many of which disagree.
What way is the way to go in this?
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@whiteflame
Still, I think it’s valid to consider who could be faking their claim. Capoeira seems plausible since it is another Brazilian martial art and just generally being vanilla makes the claim easy to fake. Sambo might be as well due to also being Vanilla
2 vanillas makes 0 sense
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@Vader
I still would like to read up a bit more though
What have you found?
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@whiteflame
Geographically, BJJ is isolated from everything except Capoeira. It involves a lot of ground fighting, just like Sambo. If you’re going to focus on theme splits, at least try to incorporate the one we all accept is almost certainly in this game and scum.
Did we find out who BJJ is? RM speculated it being Supa but he claims Capoeria, I feel looking into alt theme splits is optimal
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@whiteflame
Do you believe in RM vs. WF? That if one of you is innocent the other has to be guilty?
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@Mharman
you can still lynch anyone else you suspect of being Whiteflame's teammate, including me.
Again? Why the Hell would anyone lynch you? You seem obsessed with this, you vanilla?
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@Mharman
If it really does result in the spin from Whiteflame that RM fears, we just lynch Whiteflame anyways.
Any possibility WF will be immune to lynching DP3?
I see that as highly unlikely, but a semi good chance WF convinces us to not lynch if he lives in NP2
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@Mharman
Ik why WF living is implicating, why it makes sense that he's lynched, but why you?
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@Mharman
Then we just lynch Whiteflame and I'll go with it too. Again, if you are the one roleblocked and can't tell I can also be a lynch target next DP. I am really this confident in the plan.
Wait wait why would you be okay with being lynched DP3?
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@Mharman
At least with the test there will be more information
What info will we gain with the test?
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Alt sequence:
WF is VTLd DP2, WF is town, RM/Earth is roleblocked, the other is killed in NP2, it's 3v2 LYL0, but WF isn't the auto lynch, giving town time to find out who mafia is
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