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@badger
Why do you think they a scum team? 

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@PREZ-HILTON
There's a few more reasons that slip me right now. I think he should be in just about everyone's town pile by now though
He's in mine too, if RM is mafia it's gg
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@badger
I still want to lynch Barney, Wylted or Austin. 
Why Barney/WyIted? You think they a scum team?
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It is getting to the point where I am willing to vote everyone except myself and RM
What changed your mind with RM? You scumread him b4 

What's your top 3 in who you want to vote?
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but That wanting to pull votes off whiteflame for SirAnon is quite odd
The wf vote is going down with BK's unvote, I want to shift focus to SAnon since I see potential in the vote
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@SirAnonymous
Sheeping is almost never good strategy.
It isn't, like wf said I need to go with my own reads instead of someone else's 

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@PREZ-HILTON
You willing to vote SAnon?
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@SirAnonymous
I don't object to you scumreading me, but why are you sheeping RM?
I want to shift focus to you, RM has the power to do so, want him to join me
VTL SirAnonymous

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@RationalMadman
SAnon didn't vote wf, you wanna back this up?
I will vote with you if you do
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@RationalMadman
I mean i will just extend siranon's time. The threat wasnt empty
 I will vote siranonymous in some time shortly from now if he doesnt vote WF
SAnon didn't vote wf, you wanna back this up?
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@whiteflame
SirAnon - I still don't like his early decisions in this DP, but everything I've seen since has looked like classic town behavior from him
What is SAnon's usual town play? 
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Seems we not making any advancement, lemme go back and read this dp in detail 
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@Barney
RM gets role confirmed, alive with 7 votes on him
RM leads VTLs against wf
wf gives reads
wf vs. BK
wf claims Phil Scott with 4 votes 
WyIted claims Jay Inslee with Hitler role
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@Best.Korea
False. Your first post has you not condemning claiming at all. In your second post after two players claimed, you just said you felt like pressure on Austin was too low for a claim. You said nothing against claiming in general until 3rd out.

You  have links to these posts?
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@whiteflame
It's ridiculous how little attention WyIted has gotten for that Hitler claim. Seriously? Secret Hitler is a completely different game.
Yeah HItler isn't even a US gov he declared war on America
I'd vote this if I didn't see this as a potential Jester move
Ik the meta is to see Jester as bastard, I believe Pie hates bastard/Jesters but I may be confusing him with someone else
Also would Pie announce it was bastard? He only said role-madness 
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@Greyparrot
I am sure Trump is mafia godfather at this point.
Makes sense since Trump is immune to impeachment/conviction as President
It might be DeSantis tho
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I'm Phil Scott, governor of Vermont. Pie emphasized that he sees me as a RINO who spends too much time criticizing Donald Trump instead of seeing to my state's needs.
This is in line with what Pie said in my DP, Trump was mentioned by name in my DP too
Unvote
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@PREZ-HILTON
So far I found a game called secret Hitler that looks Interesting and may have influenced pie 
Maybe the tp is the fascist trying to get you into power?
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@RationalMadman
He is not stalling to make up fake reads, he is stalling to finally come up with a good fakeclaim, he is going to crack under the pressure. Let him crack, be the force.
VTL whiteflame
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@RationalMadman
I'm waiting on whiteflame to post reads
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@Barney
Where the fuck is Barney we should be getting claims from Barney and supa before we lynch . Not role claims, character claims to lock them in

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@badger
You want to craft setups that revolve around clears and CCs. 50/50 lynches all game long kinda thing
MMA Mafia DP2 was like this, we had 2 investigative roles claimed and narrowed scum down to wf/mar with immense pressure 
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@Best.Korea
Any reads?
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Unvote
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@RationalMadman
I don't want the answer? I do want the answer, I'm telling you what happened
I don't deny the possibility of a wf-wyited scum team
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@RationalMadman
Believe me/don't, it was an independent coincidence, I doubt you will believe me tho
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@RationalMadman
like partners in sync potentially.
Potentially but why? That's way too sus
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@badger
I didn't know about the badger apathetic meta, thanks
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@RationalMadman
You didn't just pick up what was said, you and Wylted both even replied to someone justifying me asking for votes as an accurate read, within 1 minute of each other that Barney then called out.
Yeah I know that was  insane, I was typing up my post while WyIted posted the same thought I had, took me by surprise that we thought the same thing at the same time


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@RationalMadman
You already know that I scumread WF and that you are on balance a scumread because you were weirdly clued into me being a voting role as if you and wylted either talked elsewhere or a strange coincidence happened.
If you need the flip I'm willing to be the vote this DP
It's completely possible someone like badger is scum
Evading the DP hiding seems like a good way to live
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@RationalMadman
I was realizing the obvious with the info you gave, would Pie do something like this?
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@RationalMadman
You already know that I scumread WF and that you are on balance a scumread because you were weirdly clued into me being a voting role as if you and wylted either talked elsewhere or a strange coincidence happened.
WyIted explicitly said you have a voting role in this DP, Idk why it's weird that I pick up what's said 
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@RationalMadman
All you need to do is add one to make it a triple voter
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@RationalMadman
THE FOCUS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON SCUMHUNTING, NOTHING IS PROGRESSING BY THIS, I WILL PASS THE TEST.
You right, this vote doesn't say anything about affiliation, who is scum in your eyes? wf, wyIted, me?
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@RationalMadman
Idk if mafia has a person who literally starts game with triple voting power, sounds insane but could be real
Does this role even exist? 
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@Barney
@Vader
@badger
We need 2 votes on RM to role test him
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@AustinL0926
Korea is a big F0S, I'm with you in that
Let us know any thoughts you have beyond Korea/wf
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Unvote
VTL RationalMadman
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RM's play/gambit leaves me in confusion
Idk what to place wf in, he seems to be playing reasonable, same with sa 
WyIted calling back to the post above mine is helpful
Nothing is substantive enough in my mind to vote, the only one playing anti-town to me is bk
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@whiteflame
he seems driven to make it between me and him
To me it looks like he isn't going all in against you, only making it look that way
I've seen RM go fully all in against you in DP2 in MMA mafia, this isn't going fully all in, I saw absolute conviction I don't see in this game
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@whiteflame
 statement about confirming himself by DP3
Maybe it's soft-locked until then 
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@PREZ-HILTON

I did read that, that's the post you made above me when we both talked about RM goating people to vote him/wf, the posts that made Barney think we might be scum partners  


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@whiteflame
No one agrees with his perspective of my past play, which is the entire basis on which his case against me rests. 
This whole DP is confusing since it's been dominated by RM's perception of how you play + RM's conflict with WyIted with the whole role thing
All Ik is the gambit with RM is getting votes to him/you + potentially WyIted and me

I understand that tactic, but just believing that RM is town doesn't mean his VTL makes sense. If you don't agree with his logic, don't just parrot him because you think he's town. I think he's likely town, but that doesn't mean I'm voting for either you or WyIted by default.
Good point, RM's perception alone isn't enough to vote you, going with someone I believe as town isn't an optimal way to play but I'm willing to believe RM since he usually reads right, anyone you willing to vote in now? 

He straight up admitted that he doesn't know how to read me in DP1 back in post #34.

This explains why the accusation against you feels so shakey

I'm honestly just not interested in engaging with this tunnel vision RM at this stage, so I haven't been as involved when he's the one dominating the posts
I highly dislike the flow of this game, we need change it, focusing in on substantive things, but I'm not seeing anything substantial 
How do you feel about WyIted accusing RM of backtracking/lying? WyIted is saying RM is setting up to backtrack 
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@SirAnonymous
RM is far too certain that WF is scum.
Good point, RM is convinced  all in on the fact wf plays insanely defensively with info as town and let's info go as mafia alone
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@PREZ-HILTON
What do you think a scum slip is? I don't know if WF is scum or not, I scum read him every game so I know I like lynching him early even if it is a mislynch, so I can have a more accurate decision in a MYLO situation. 
I think it's acting in a way scum acts in, like trying to control the narrative/the flow of information, deflect lynches off of themselves onto a scapegoat, etc. I also tend to scumread wf so I'm with you on getting him out in the beginning 
If anyone scum slipped, please show me the post so I can help you lynch them. 
Hopefully I find one, I will let you know when I do

RM seems like he is trying to set himself up to back track on insinuating a role related to having a vote on him. He also stated earlier when he first entered the thread that his role was somewhat scummy
If it is set up I want to see the execution, let's see how RM reacts 
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I literally pointed out 4 posts where RM was doing that. One to you, one to WF and one to supa. Are you not trying to make any effort at comprehending what people say?
Point it out to me a 5th time, I feel I'm legit confused/inattentive this game, distracted by things, Idk if it's this game/if my reading comprehension is going down, I need to get back into reading, maybe I need sleep

What's confusing is the conflicting things you and wf be saying, seems like I'm missing what's being said
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@RationalMadman
WF is calmer as scum and okay with info being leaked and revealed. He is much more airtight and worried as Town about any variant of a mass reveal.
wf is semi passive in this yee, I don't see him playing so defensively with info in this
Question is who has the biggest scum slip, wf/WyIted?
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I find the whole RM/Wylted situation weird, initially I saw Wylted's action as town helping town by moving RM's vote, which RM openly wanted between him and wf
Then RM stated this was Wylted outing him out cockblocking him, sussing me out since I didn't call out Wylted's action, why did Wylted make this move?  Idk, I don't like Wylted saying this in place of being quiet as RM noted, why is RM saying that Wylted cockblocked him? At this point it wasn't fully known what Wylted's action did to RM to anyone except RM, I wish Wylted stayed silent and RM didn't respond to it, my read on Wylted keeps shifting between towny when wanting to up activity to scummy when he does things like this, especially confusing when Wylted says he will vote RM since he backtracked on being a voting role. What? When did RM backtrack? Why vote RM if he backtracked? All I know is that RM's role is semi complicated, doesn't RM backtracked being a voting role, confusion.

RM's play is his town play, calling out the scum team being wf, wylted, me, I like this a lot, focusing in on 3, the pressure and wanting a  1 v 1 w/ wf
I see a semi shift with willing to vote in Wylted, doesn't seem dedicated all in to facing off wf now, maybe he's adapting to an all encompassing play, I do like RM and Barney noticing the potential shadow note checking between me and Wylted, since we keep lining up with what we saying and failed to question him with the RM thing, this could be buddying/scum pinning 2 town as scapegoats but I don't see it, RM is too town to me to be mafia, Barney is pretty null to me but I do like the catch he makes then RM makes

wf is playing dispassionately, not disengaged, he is engaged, I need to go back and read what he says in detail, RM is saying this dispassionate play paints him as mafia, wanting the 1 v. 1, in the MMA game that wf was scum he actively wanted me to full claim, joining in with someone else in wanting this
Going off RM's perception alone wf leans scum, wf is not freaking out with mass claims as RM's perception of town wf would do, he's also not actively pushing anyone to full claim like he did me when scum, to me wf is playing wf slight scum/neutral, I'd even say wf is playing as he usually does, least what I perceive to be wf's usual play

BK is playing anti-town but I'm seeing that as noob town play, not scum, tho I wouldn't be surprise if BK flips guilty

I hope Badger posts by this point, I'm posting b4 I see any updates in my last post

Supa is someone I see as being scum, only a feeling tho, need to see him posting actively

SAnon is neutral, missing RM pushing to vote wf/RM equally looks like an honest mistake, being semi apologetic with not knowing what to do in the game even when playing semi well seems like a semi towny thing to do, now that I see it SAnon is slight town if not neutral, this could be an act tho

I don't like Austin's extensive soft claim but it did add fuel to the whiteflame fire, neutral

GP playing like GP, neutral

0nly town I'm seeing is RM, since he wants wf vs. RM I'm voting  inwith him 

VTL whiteflame

 


 
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I'm gonna eat, gonna post my thoughts when I get back
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@badger
Please post reads, want to know what you thinking
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