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@HistoryBuff
Wait, I thought this was a U.N. thing? Only the U.S. had this nuclear deal with Iran and only the U.S. is responsible for keeping track and enforcement? If that's the case then I'm glad we pulled out, we don't need to be the world's sheriff.
weren't some of the sanctions because of human rights abuses and terrorism?
are their human rights to a level where they should no longer be sanctioned for them?
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@HistoryBuff
But under Obama things started to get better.
better how? worse how? what exactly has been different in the past 3 years?
Iran lived up to their side, america didn't.
looks like the major sanction started in 95, but tell me again who is putting on sanctions?
UN reports increasing violations of Iran nuclear deal
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@HistoryBuff
so you think there could be peace with Iran?
Do you think we should deliver them pallets of cash, lift sanctions and let them do what they want?
Things have been escalating for a very long time, under many presidents.
Do you turn the other cheek with a bully?
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@HistoryBuff
The trump administration just really wants to attack Iran.
too overly simplistic and I don't think accurate. Why would he want to attack Iran? I could agree that this was a message or warning. I could agree that it really was done to protect U.S. lives etc. But not that he simply just wanted to attack Iran.
(ever watch The Blacklist?)
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@Alec
I don't think we'll get worse drugs actually. The approval time might be even further apart than 3 years, I'm not 100% sure. But what I have seen is a drug approved in England, then many years later it's available in the U.S. This is just one of many facets to the cost differences imo. However if this is a driving factor in cost who is responsible? Well the F.D.A. is a government agency isn't it? And we want government to have more control over healthcare? Do you really think after all this time the U.S. government couldn't have done something to bring down prices to a similar rate as what other countries have been paying? Why hasn't it ever happened? Maybe if they have more control over healthcare this would change? Do you really think that's true?
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@HistoryBuff
It takes it out of the hands of the majority and places it in the hands of a minority.
that's not true, there have been presidents who have won both the electoral college and popular vote and those who have not.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
go back and read post #6 a reply to you.
your words described what I said about governor blackface, so I agreed, we agree.
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@Stephen
The U.S. designated Soleimani a global terrorist in 2011
that was under St. Obama's reign
Since 1998, Soleimani had led Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps–Quds Force (IRGC-QF) in planning and executing terrorist attacks and arming the Iranian regime’s proxy fighters in a half dozen countries, including Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Bahrain, Yemen and Afghanistan.
a real stand up guy that celebs should cry over.
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@HistoryBuff
no canadian banks needed bailing out
so really you don't need more regulations you just have to NOT bail them out, it's amazing how people/business will self regulate then the threat of failure is very real.
lol I will never understand why some people think that something can work all over the world, but it can't possibly work in america. Universal healthcare in other countries is much cheaper than US healthcare.
this is some kind of abstract comparison thread anyway
The electoral college was put in place specifically to undermine that democracy so that specific regions would get more power.
um, no, it was put in place to try and make sure the country was represented equally rather than mob rule. In a true democracy, NY and California would pick the president and essentially run the whole country.
That is a dictatorship.hey do not have the right to use violence to force their will onto others.
sure or a tyrannical government threatening to use the national guard, increasing prison space etc, yes? I agree with you then, governor blackface is or is trying to become a tyrannical leader.
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@disgusted
Because a countries resources belong to all the people.
all people or all citizens?
why do we have to pay for water then?
how are you differentiating a resource and a service?
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@HistoryBuff
Better regulations to keep companies from abusing people makes the economy better.
really? such as?
He wants a federal job guarantee, that would lower unemployment.
more federal works, yup sounds like a fine idea LOL
You would pay more to the government, but you would be paying nothing to for-profit insurance companies and keeping much more of your money.
yeah I have a bridge for sale you might be interested in.
anti democratic.
the U.S. is a republic =/= democracy you should learn some history.
The only way a civil war is coming is if moronic right wing nut jobs start one.
except that the people you are referring to were doing nothing but minding their own business, going to work etc until the government decided they want to try and control them. You see governor black face could have just let sleeping dogs lay but decided to kick the hornet's nest and now look at all the people going to town meetings, 2a sanctuaries etc and for what? just because he is pandering to the control freaks. wouldn't you think a threat to use the national guard is a threat of violence? among other threats and things they want to do. Let me again who is starting it?
all he's done is drive up the demand for guns and greatly increased purchases. these are the same geniuses that you want and think can run healthcare LOL This fantasy bubble you live in sounds like an awesome place, though far from reality.
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@n8nrgmi
30 Most Technologically Advanced Hospitals in the World
U.S. has 16 of the 30 including the #1 position
U.K. has 4
Canada has 1
but double check my figures.
wanna guess which is ranked #1?
it's not a perfect system, there's no such thing. People who have illnesses like cancer are better off being in the U.S. than other countries generally speaking.
most quality products and services come at a premium so why should healthcare should be different other than people FEEL it should be.
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@Alec
other countries approve drugs etc much faster than the FDA does. I believe England it takes 7 years instead of 10? I don't remember exactly but they get approvals faster than the U.S. That would lower costs. Every medication new and old comes with some level of risk, cost/benefit. Do you want longer studies and trials or cheaper prices? I don't think you can have both.
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@Stephen
it's the only way they can get elected and gain more control, that's all any of this is really about. What are they going to say? They are going to make the economy better? Lower unemployment? Let us keep more of the money we earn? Which democratic candidate is saying that? Um none.
There is no more taking the best ideas from both sides to benefit everyone, those days are dead. Now it's one side vs the other for total control and they would even do away with the electoral college to make that happen. They know a civil war is coming because they are pushing people over the edge, which fits very nicely with the gun confiscations states are trying to pass. The dumbasses who say no one is coming for your guns lol, look at Virginia a very real threat of them coming for their guns.
At one point there were rumors that Trump would do something to strengthen the 2a once and for all which just places another target on him.
sadly people are embracing what is seen as soft socialism but don't see the very short path to fascism.
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@Alec
It would be like requiring all males to get vasectomies.
lol it's nothing like getting a vasectomy
given similar options of birth control for men, they will opt for those instead of a vasectomy 90%+ of the time.
what if a prostitute wishes to stop or retire and start a family? sterilization doesn't allow for that, hence tolleterian/extreme
if your goal is to stop abortions then logic would dictate all females of child bearing age should be place on mandatory birth control until such a time they chose to get pregnant.
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Is there any REAL evidence that he was targeted or just happened to be there? I'm asking this because afaik this was in response to a threat against the embassy. Only after the fact and it was revealed that he was killed that this narrative arose. Trump makes it sound like it was a planned thing but that didn't sound like it in the beginning, only after the fact. It almost sounds like he's taking credit when in reality, this guy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. But I could be mistaken since the news is all over the place which is understandable given their horrible bias.
Was it orchestrated or just bad luck/ good luck?
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@dustryder
gotcha, that makes sense which I think is why people just shrug their shoulders at it. Saying he's impeached just means charged, fancy word for "statement of charges". Given it was partisan, called for before he was sworn in, it just doesn't mean much of anything, bfd. I would now equate it with the word racist as far as the impact and affect it has. Imo this is because of Bill Clinton's impeachment. What he did was wrong, lied etc but I never thought it should have been investigated how it was etc, not for what he was accused of, but that's just my opinion.
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@Alec
it's still a surgery with all the risks involved with that, not to mention that surgery time means someone else has to wait for theirs. 6k? that sounds a bit too low.
Generally professional prostitutes don't want to get pregnant generally for a lot of reasons, it can be very bad for business. I worry less about them than the crack heads and drug addicts who deliver addicted babies that will have life long problems.
Forced sterilization is totalitarian and not practical. I see no difference than making birth control mandatory for all females of childbearing age until such a time they wish to get pregnant. This is stuff of sci fi movies.
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@dustryder
hmm yeah that's what I've heard, but again I have also heard that #1 is not a crime in this instance and "contempt of congress" is a charge, he actually hasn't been found guilty of it, he claimed executive privilege, they claimed he couldn't, a court would need to rule on that, congress does not make the laws nor interpret them like that.
So if anything only #1 MIGHT be an actual crime.
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@Alec
you might get pregnant even with birth control.
but now we are dealing in hypotheticals and what ifs, the problem with that is, even though it's illegal it is still happening, what you are proposing would be a huge roadblock for people complying with the conditions to do it legally. So with such a demand/restriction of sterilization there is no real point it making it legal when currently the penalty, risk/reward is such that the illegal trade flourishes. In other words they would just continue to do it illegally as they currently are. Do you see what I mean?
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@dustryder
Was there anything you disagreed with or wanted clarification on?
what exactly was/were the crime(s) he committed? actual crimes, not he did a bad thing.
many republicans agreed what he did was in bad taste, wrong, whatever, but not criminal is my understanding anyway.
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@Imabench
It struck me as so strange (for a lack of a better way to express it) that for all the arguments we've had in the past, as of late I generally agree with you, far more than I ever thought possible. You've changed a lot. It's interesting reflecting back on past posts etc. I guess age does that to most of us.
I may have to go back and reread some d.d.o., feeling nostalgic haha
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@Alec
you don't believe birth control prevents abortions? Are you familiar with how long an implanon is good for? depo provera? Public health has a lot of authority (Department of health, CDC etc). So this could easily be licenced which would include frequent checks, testing and contraception. Then there is the whole issue of compliance.....
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@Alec
I believe where it is legal (forgot the name of the ranch) they must undergo std testing and there could very well be birth control regulations as well. Std testing is part of mma, boxing and other sports so I don't see any issue with you ideas really. Sterilization is a bit extreme. How do countries regulate it where it's legal?
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@Greyparrot
Biden is slowly coming to understand
he is slow, signs of his age and probably a medical condition or 2
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@Greyparrot
that was epic, almost everything we talked about too hahaha
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Parishioner who shot gunman describes attack on Texas church
FBI special agent in charge, Matthew DeSarno, said the gunman had been arrested multiple times in the past.
(dang let's make laws so criminals can't own guns, oh wait.....)
huh imagine that
they aren't coming for your guns either, until governor blackface sends in the national guard, good thing he's increased the budget for extra incarcerations.
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@Dr.Franklin
More black babies are aborted than born in NYC and Georgia
so basically p.p.h. and it's founder is working as designed, huh, go figure.
though one has to wonder why more emphasis, promotion and focus would be put on avoiding and preventing unintended pregnancy then emphasising, promoting and emphasizing on abortion.
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@zedvictor4
does it concern you that blacks then Hispanics have the highest % of abortions?
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@YeshuaBought
that's true, but do you have a penis that you can donate? a second heart perhaps? because if you have them they are not yours, right? I mean those things you were not born with, right?
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@YeshuaBought
does your body have a penis? how many hearts does you body have? fingers, toes.....is unique and different dna "your body"?
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@Alec
rehab is used after they are addicted and if they want help, it's not mandatory, regardless there is a market for these substances and the cartels are making huge profits from them.
Human traffickers would get punished under US law once caught.
they do now, IF they get caught, and until then imagine what these children go through. Making it easier to move them around from country to country would make it easier and more profitable for them imo, there would be far less risk of being stopped or caught at the border since there wouldn't be one.
gun runners/smugglers guns do get smuggled in and out of the U.S. currently, imagine if there was no border.....
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@Alec
please rethink that idea, drug cartels, human traffickers, gun runners etc would LOVE open borders. Just a few horrible problems with an open border idea.
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@Greyparrot
lol true, waiting for them to bring out the drones that will work like the traffic light cameras. Think about it, they have a huge database of photos from the dmv, most welfare programs require a photo i.d. or they will make you one. No chance of a totalitarian government, none whatsoever, also I have this bridge for sale.....
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"Baltimore is experiencing one of its most violent years on record"
more laws too please
that'll fix um
anyone remember the bullet case multimillion dollar waste for a database? that didn't solve 1 crime in the 5 years they wasted money on it.
planes sound like a fantastic idea
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@HistoryBuff
so wealthy individuals like athletes and entertainers aren't the problem? because I think they are WAY over paid. If they negotiate their salaries only a company who has the resources could hire them which is one of the incredibly wealthy companies you speak of right? How can you have one and not the other?
medicare for all could be the one time that the government didn't waste money, over pay for everything because people found ways to take advantage, and there won't be horrible unintended consequences, it is possible, just like life on other planets.
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@HistoryBuff
Pro athletes and entertainment people imo a way overpaid but it's a demand thing, no different than any product, they are the product and the companies who employ them wouldn't pay them what they do if they didn't believe they, in turn would make more money. The companies that you hate are no different. Who are you or anyone else for that matter the one to dictate how much someone can earn if they do so within the law? Why don't you question how someone making $175k per year (part time mostly) is worth 20 million or more. Creepy Joe isn't the only one who's child/children have gotten rich because of who their parents are.
Unions had their day in the sun and they blew it with their own greed, it's sad really because the idea of how a union should work is a good one. I am pro union but not at the expense of killing business and unemployment.
Bernie has made a lot of money just writing books, that doesn't really employ many people, not really, shouldn't he have been taxed at like 60%? Let's be real, someone else actually did the work for him.
If there is a non leftist article about these healthcare schemes lowering costs I'll read them. If it was a net cost savings the would be hammered every chance the democrats could get, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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@HistoryBuff
I don't know about "smashed unions" as much as the corrupt ones turned people away from them or bankrupted the companies.
suppressed wages? aren't many employers having to increase starting pay etc because they don't have enough workers?
funnel wealth upwards, so you think people who start companies to make money, make more money is somehow wrong? these aren't charities.
ah yes the rise of costs, how much will costs go up with the socialist entitlements the democrat candidates are promising? hell they even admitted taxes will increase but that's ok, they will have programs to make more people dependant and those who already are, even more dependant on government handouts, great idea that will fix the problems LOL, not.
what is the make ends meet? they can't afford high speed internet? cable tv? I'll bet there's a lot of Vensualians who'd love to be poor in the U.S.
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@HistoryBuff
I agree with most of what you said, I think you are spot on, the only issue is the claim about how the economy has been designed. That would require forethought and planning. The economy is almost a living entity, it changes, developes, ebbs and flows. Anyone can choose to participate in it, but that is a choice. Like every aspect of live it's easier for some than others. We take walking for granted and yet there are some who struggle to even stand, but that doesn't keep them from trying or finding solutions. If you look at the people who have overcome extreme adversity due to illness, accident etc, didn't quit but kept trying how can you have much empathy for someone unwilling to work and work hard to better their lives?
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@Alec
and? you sound surprised but I don't know why. it's just a new kind of slavery really and it's legal. Consider this, wild animals who are captured or rehab'd often become dependent on the people taking care of it, to the point they could no longer survive in the wild. Very similar imo
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@Greyparrot
is there a better voter base than the poor and desperate? it's beneficial to have a large base like that if you want to be elected. What do you offer someone who isn't poor? Well you offer to let them keep more of their money perhaps, but they probably have adjusted to what they actually bring home, even so that wouldn't be a huge change for most people. you get elected generally by offering people free stuff which is actually other people's stuff that they didn't earn.
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@Alec
I don't know much about it, but based on the graph, imo it is a scheme that makes people feel good and relevant, more so the agencies or groups who created these "wars" or ideas.
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@bmdrocks21
imo she screwed up by saying they'd do away with the electoral college, among other things, but that's a biggy imo
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@Greyparrot
ROFL
there was fear of scolding from Pelosi for bad table manners so the caterer "committed suicide" by shooting themselves in the back of their heads after they "hanged" themselves. Clintons apparently are paying for the funerals.
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@Greyparrot
impeachment is the new racist, now another word that will never have the impact it once did and still should have, the story about the party who cried impeachment.
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@HistoryBuff
Basically, they are arguing that a president cannot be punished in any way by anyone.
yet Clinton was impeached by members of both parties, logic fail.
But now they are fighting tooth and nail against impeaching a president for abusing his power.
it has yet to be determine if he abused his power, the leftist like yourself believe it's a forgone conclusion but it has yet to be determine if that's true and or if it's an impeachable offense, congress is not the judge,jury and executioner.
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@HistoryBuff
lol it aint over yet, not by a long shot.
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@dustryder
I don't believe anything thinks the privilege is absolute so I'm not sure any real precedent was made. and has @ILikePie5 correctly stated "The method to overcome that is by going to the other coequal branch - the judicial branch."
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@ethang5
it's darn close, hopefully the world will end before that.
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@drafterman
I don't think it's that simple really. It's a multifaceted problem. I seem to recall a study linking the family break down with the increase in poverty and crime.
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@drafterman
are a disproportionate number of people of a certain skin color poor? if crime is disproportionate then it would stand to reason poverty is as well since they are often related.
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