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@HistoryBuff
sell it on the blackmarket of course, I'd rather keep it in my house and take my chances, if someone breaks in it's better to face a gun charge than a death penalty via criminal don't you think?
look at the criminals getting gun charges now, as a would be first time offender I'm not concerned in the slightest based on what repeat offenders are charged and punished with.
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@Greyparrot
Ramp up the technology. I want to make guns in the comfort of my own home. Something quieter would be nice, like a mini magnet rail gun. Coming to a download near you.
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@Nemiroff
I don't know, I never said anything about admissions, did you accidentally reply to me? I haven't seen any news reports about hospitals being swamped, which states are those? Not mine anyway.
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@bmdrocks21
people with small children aren't immune either, such peaceful people deserving of equality and respect, notice all the leftist denouncing them? sure seems a large group wants a race war, so let's get on with it.
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@bmdrocks21
naw his solution would be to kneel in front of them, give them money and or wash their feet.
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@Greyparrot
There's way more testing going on right now
a lot more, then when you add to that they are testing anyone and everyone who wants it, where before only symptomatic people were being tested the numbers are greatly increased.
SARS-CoV-2 Serology (COVID-19) Antibody (IgG), Immunoassay - Detection IgG antibodies may indicate exposure to SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19). It usually takes at least 10 days after symptom onset for IgG to reach detectable levels. An IgG positive result may suggest an immune response to a primary infection with SARS-CoV-2, but the relationship between IgG positivity and immunity to SARS-CoV-2 has not yet been firmly established.Antibody tests have not been shown to definitively diagnose or exclude SARS-CoV-2 infection. Positive results could also be due to past or present infection with non-SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus strains, such as coronavirus HKU1, NL63, OC43, or 229E. Diagnosis of COVID-19 is made by detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA by molecular testing methods, consistent with a patient's clinical findings.
antibody testing is probably added in as well
then you look at the swab test...
This test is to be performed only usingrespiratory specimens collected from individualswho are suspected of
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@ILikePie5
Pretty sure gun sales were off the charts after the riots started happening.
they are, ammo too.
Sales were going up because of the unconstitutional, tyrannical, bs laws.....like one a month unless you have a ccw. Then you add in the rioting, assaults, murders and looting....you'd be stupid to not buy one to protect yourself and family imo. Then again you should have already had something to do that with. Makes the "preppers" not so crazy lol
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@Greyparrot
@ILikePie5
since the first 2 people (Adam, Eve) originated in Africa and I'm descendants of the first 2, I want my piece of the free pie.
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@Dr.Franklin
this guy was clearly bored......hanging around.
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@Greyparrot
loop not is not a noose, what is tied on that rope doesn't slide, is not big enough, is not a noose.
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@ILikePie5
slippery slope???? naw how could that happen
Plantation is racist now
an estate on which crops such as coffee, sugar, and tobacco are cultivated by resident labor.
an area in which trees have been planted, especially for commercial purposes.
Rhode Island moves to change state's official name due to slavery connotations
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@TheUnderdog
the taliban did it, incase you don't remember, destroy things you don't like, temples, churches etc it's been that way for centuries, whatever the reason is claimed, the real goal is the same, erase the visuals so people will forget, it's not that dissimilar from Orwell 1984
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@bmdrocks21
Yeah, bro. That works wonders for racial relations when a black person with an SAT score 100 points lower is admitted in front of you at a good college.
the soft bigotry of low expectations, it's amazing how handicapped blacks are according to the left, all the things they can't do and excuses why. They thrive off of taking care of a whole demographic just like rescuing pets.
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@PressF4Respect
Just because they don't know the exact mechanisms doesn't mean they don't know what the problem is.
assuming, conjecture is not the same as knowing.
Ending discriminatory loaning practices would improve the situation drastically.
since that's not possible what % of mortgages for blacks are subprime because the lender is taking advantage? Of these subprime mortgages how many of the applicants have some kind of government assistance, program or guarantee?
since the link admits and you apparently ignored...
they could have been implemented without racial animus but nevertheless with knowledge that they would have a disproportionate negative effect on non-white borrowers, or they could have been established without any knowledge that they would have a different impact on white borrowers as compared to non-white borrowers.
I don't know how many lending institutions were founded by Black or Latino people, and I don't see why this is relevant.
because if that is the case then there is some other reason that they are taking advantage of this group of people right? Like some kind of government backed benefit perhaps?
Typically anything the government subsidizes is going to cost more, that should be obvious. The government portion is guaranteed money and the beneficiary doesn't care about it since it's not theirs. Where all the people paying subprime ignorant to that fact? How many other institutions did they apply to? Lots of questions I don't see answers to.
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@PressF4Respect
220 instances out of how many lenders and borrowers exactly?
Loan originators sought out lists of individuals already borrowing money to buy consumer goods in predominantly black and Latino neighborhoods to find potential borrowers, and exploited intermediaries within local social networks, such as community or religious leaders, to gain those borrowers’ trust.
from you link, taking advantage I don't consider racism, business will exploit those that let them.
Even after controlling for credit scores, loan to value ratios, the existence of subordinate liens, and housing and debt expenses relative to individual income, Bayer, Ferreira, and Ross (2015) found that black and Latino borrowers in all of the seven metropolitan areas they studied were significantly more likely to receive a high-cost loan than others.
seems rather subjective given no real numbers.
the specific individual-level mechanisms through which discriminatory lending occurs remains largely unexplored. We do not know, for example, how the employees of bank and non-bank lenders identified black and Latino borrowers to target for high cost loans and how they gained those borrowers’ trust.
so in other words they don't really know, but they know it exists, um ok.
it's gone from not giving mortgages to giving them and making money off of them according to your link.
The persistence of high levels of racial segregation combined with structural changes in the lending industry thus facilitated the development of a structurally segmented mortgage market that offered separate and unequal loan products to disadvantaged borrowers located in black and Latino neighborhoods, particularly large numbers of high-cost, subprime loans
sounds like government influence right there doesn't it?
they could have been implemented without racial animus but nevertheless with knowledge that they would have a disproportionate negative effect on non-white borrowers, or they could have been established without any knowledge that they would have a different impact on white borrowers as compared to non-white borrowers.
I've read enough of that. Everything happens to some extent but how much? we don't know, but I would say not very much. in a perfect world it wouldn't happen, but how much does this realistically happen or affect the entire system?
This is but bandaid fix at best, if you could figure out what to fix.
got anything else? don't want to admit independence is better than dependence? how many of those lending institutions or decisions were made by a black or latino person?
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@zedvictor4
imo you have a group addicted to government, dependant, others cherish freedom and independence. unfortunately it seems there's more people who do not cherish freedom and independence so we have the presidential choices we have rather than a more libertarian one. that's a big part of it, not all, but a big part imo.
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@Greyparrot
I don't know them all but the ones I did know where anti 2a so I couldn't vote for anyone like that.
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@PressF4Respect
everything is a credit score so if you have something current which disproves that I'll read, not from 22 years ago.
when has throwing money at problems ever worked? government housing? entitlements? more programs that make people dependant? you'll understand my skepticism about doing the same thing over and over which hasn't worked, not in the long run anyway.
"Plantation politics. Black people in the worst jobs, the worst housing. Police brutality rampant.
"But when the so-called black committeemen came around election time, we'd all line up and vote the straight Democratic ticket.
"Sell our souls for a Christmas turkey."
I'm not interesting in bickering about context because the words apply and speak for themselves. Government money, entitlements and programs keep the blacks on the government plantations. Even Mr. Obama admitted it, believed it was accurate enough and true enough for his book.
give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
you don't believe that statement to be true? what the left has always advocated and you seem to be, is just giving them more fish.
with all the "black" programs and blacks only still isn't enough? you want to make more maybe? how about black only mortgages? black only lenders, that will fix it.
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@RationalMadman
For what is important to me and what I think is best for the country, Biden ain't it, it's really that simple to me. There's lots of people I'd prefer over president Trump but they aren't running and wouldn't have a chance of winning anyway.
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@PressF4Respect
I skimmed it but it reads as throw more money at the problem I think.
Problem is, I don't know if conservatives will ever accept these.
If they think it's a bad idea why should they accept it, that statement reads like they are right and everything else is wrong, might as well say if you disagree your racist.
Explain why it would be better to increase government handouts rather than wages and employment? Other than the leftist would never accept that.
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@Dr.Franklin
Are you fat shaming? Every thing is acceptable and normal to the leftist.
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@Dr.Franklin
Cheap unhealthy food is easy to buy and economical for the food stamp life. Welfare and easy free access to abortion sure seems like population control. Now add in cheap illegal labor to keep unemployment high and wages low and the lemmings will never notice.
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@PressF4Respect
well tbh and I don't mean this to come across like it will sound but I'm not word smith, I didn't ask what the roots where, we constantly and readily identify the problems and yet no solutions, maybe it's hopeless and there aren't any, if great strides weren't made in 8 years of a half black president what hope is there really?
How about poverty? do you think reducing that would help?
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@Dr.Franklin
heard they are genocyding it up in Rwanda or someplace like that, looks like a U.K. news outlet covered it a little but that's about it, because American Black Lives Matter, unless you live in an inner city, or are part of a gang, drug dealer, abortion clinic etc
we could get into how the welfare state has increased obesity, high blood pressure which makes people more susceptible to think like covid, diabetes, heart disease etc but hey one bad cop kills one bad man and they go nuts, guess it's ok so long as it's the welfare state and each other that's doing the killing. ignorance is bliss.
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@Dr.Franklin
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@PressF4Respect
but you have to start somewhere, where or what would be the most productive and realistic change that could be made?
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@PressF4Respect
defunding public schools in favor of private would be a band-aid at best I think. creating competition, which is the idea DeVos was going for I think, would work but to such a small extent it wouldn't be practical for the turmoil and unintended consequences compared to whatever benefit it might have.
Do you think if there was a way to reverse the fatherless homes that would help with the societal problems more than pretty much anything the government could do? Poverty and education being a couple of the big ones?
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@PressF4Respect
Discrepancies in grades have a lot more to do with the children that enter into the school than the school itself.
if that's true then people who claim the inner city schools are terrible and want to throw more money at them would be wrong. Examining the drop out rate, math and literacy rates there certainly is a problem and tbh I agree is the students, their parents and the low standards of society. But that's not politically correct or acceptable to place the responsibility where it belongs. There is a huge problems in the schools but perhaps not so much WITH the schools. I think you are right, it does make sense.
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@Trent0405
that's interesting, if the private schools are "better" they must be better in some way, you'd think grades or something, maybe graduation rate? gpa? something, or maybe they just aren't any better than the public schools, sounds like an interesting analysis and rabbit hole haha.
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@sadolite
the ironic part which I think is what you are going for is they will call out the fake stuff but readily convict without having all the facts, they believe the social media they like but not what they don't, they can't see how easily social and other media can be manipulated and suck people in making them believe. they don't get it, they can't see the bigger picture, expand their minds, they only see what's in their little bubbles they live in.
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@Trent0405
what about outcomes? there must be some kind of comparison between private and public schools with regards to grades, attendance, behavior problems etc?
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@Greyparrot
“Black people in the streets are getting killed and if one of them happens to be your kid, I’m concerned about him too. And clearly I’m more concerned about him than you are,”-Cedric RichmondIt's okay, because Cedric put him back on topic.not one person had condemned or punished him for what he said, when you can attack someone and involve their children in that setting without reprisal that should say a lot about the state of society. they have NO moral authority over President Trump.interesting how that furthers division and harmony in our society, gotta fire up the riots and looters I guess.
how that isn't painfully obvious I don't know, I've tried to explain it one last time, I can't dumb it down anymore because I don't know how, it's my failing. Regardless they don't see the their own hypocrisy of defending what he said but so readily jump on someone else who's offense is rather mild compared to this personal attack, but they never spoke out when they attacked a 14 year old Trump. Such classy people these leftist.
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@PressF4Respect
But you don't seem to understand mine: This whole debacle came as a result of Gaetz interrupting Richmond and going on a tangent to a completely unrelated topic.
I do understand which is why I asked if that justified what Richmond said in post #32
"so that justifies Cedric's response then, like the riots, looting and murders because a cop killed a guy, it's really all the same in my view, more or less, do you see it as all justified?"
you then quoted it in some slip post and then go full lefttard after that, for as smart as you think you are I'm not sure the difficulty you are having here, so I'll really dumb it down if I can.
Richmond got too personal by bring someone's child into the argument, the leftist here and elsewhere seem to use the childhood defense "he started it" by using children in such a manner or anyone's loved ones who aren't part of issue or politics can not claim any moral superiority, nor anyone who condones such behavior and thus the end of morality and civility, now I say the end because at this point no one can claim moral superiority due to all the ugliness and behavior that has been displayed. You see to be ok by justify it using the playground defense (I think I will use that phrase a lot now, I like it and it fits) You also add in what about Gaetz behavior. You seem find with historybuff calling his child a 'cabana boy' and whatever else he said about something he knows nothing about.
Now I'm going to use the privilege that you h.b. and oro seem to be ok with so you'll accept this as well right?
I'm a parent you are not so you can't understand what it would be like to have someone say anything about your children like Richmond did (I thought you saw this coming)
I'll assume you all had parents, because I'm a parent I care more for your parents than you do. (see what I did there) now let's see what that actually says and means.
if that's true that means you are a horrible son/daughter and a horrible person
if that's not true that means I think you are a horrible son/daughter and a horrible person
how could it not be one of those 2 things, I don't know your parent/parents, one would assume you love them to some degree generally speaking.
Imagine if I said this in front of your coworkers, friends, rivals, enemies AND that it would be shown on tv.
I'm not sure any of you three can really comprehend what I'm saying since you aren't parents.
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So... none of you are going to address #54? It's laid bare, right in front of your eyes.
I did the first time he wasted his time typing all of that out, it's irrelevant and I have no need to point out how and why, because you aren't a parent and can't understand.
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@PressF4Respect
um nope I thought you figured out what I was doing and it was a genuine compliment, tbh I can't stand your immaturity, self righteous, leftist thinking so feel free to not reply to me any more and I'll do the same.
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@Greyparrot
black privilege, imagine anyone of a different hue had said that.
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@PressF4Respect
I am talking about one thing, and then Greyparrot and Robert go off on a tangent and move the conversation onto a different topic, completely sidestepping the issue at hand in I an attempt to discredit my argument. But then again, what else did anyone expect them (and others like them) to do?
or maybe it wasn't clear but you are too obtuse to further explain yourself, what else did anyone expect you to do?
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@PressF4Respect
You don't know that. How dare you assume that he doesn't have any kids and that he isn't a parent. Do you think you know more about whether or not Oro has kids more than he does? Shame on you.
ahhh you're slick, much respect but you really burst my bubble with the direction I was going :(
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@oromagi
all that typing just to be so wrong lol wow, my main issue is claiming to care more for his child than he did, obviously you aren't a parent, perhaps ask a parent what kind of reaction they would have.
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@PressF4Respect
so that justifies Cedric's response then, like the riots, looting and murders because a cop killed a guy, it's really all the same in my view, more or less, do you see it as all justified?
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@Greyparrot
minor children should not be any part of any of it imo.
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@HistoryBuff
I assume you don't have children but your parents did. If someone told your parent that they cared more about you than they did what type of a reaction would you expect? What would there to be gained from making such an inflammatory statement do you think?
you say extremely mild? you obviously aren't a parent, and they he adds insult to injury by asking him if he struck a nerve?
sadly I thought you had come along way in your development and maturity then I read this
simultaneously supporting trump who has : banged and bribed hookers, made many many misogynist comments, commented white supremacists etc.but you think trump is a hero shows how fundamentally intellectually dishonest you are.
you just can't break out of that old lying habit, not yet anyway, though I thought you had made great progress and I un-ignored you, I'm disappointed actually, no idea why you would revert back like that, sad.
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@oromagi
@HistoryBuff
you don't have to explain, I get it you are justifying bad and imo horrible behavior because the other person started it, I remember the playground and elementary school and it's common for siblings to say "they started it" and yet the left still tries to claim some moral superiority, you are letting your ideology blind you imo.
it's whatbout isms, Oromagi is posted up a whole bunch and wonders why I ignored them.
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@oromagi
yeah one black man speaks for all and they all know and can understand his experience, ask any leftist about the black monolith. classic and typical.
Whatever you think Gaetz did wrong that justifies the response? Rhetorical question of course a leftist would say yes, rather than saying he should have been the bigger/better man and not stooped to the level. I love the derogatory things you said about him and his son even though you know absolutely nothing about him, but feel righteous enough to judge him. You are a fine example of the leftist. Keep up the hypocrisy your excelling in it.
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@oromagi
what he chooses to reveal is his person business and no one else, personal life involving children should not be used in politics, children should not be used as swords in politics, I know the leftist don't agree with that because they pretend some moral superiority when in fact most are a-moral.
playing the color card has been a very old ploy of the leftist as well, dismissing someone or discounting their opinion because of the skin color, when they know nothing about the person is nothing new, neither is the hypocrisy.
more racial division, the leftist is pro at that and winning, contratz.
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@PressF4Respect
causation does not equal correlation
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@PressF4Respect
yeah but the point stands right? you seem to imply the lack of censorship allowed him to take control, however censorship allowed him to keep it, expand and everything else that came with the rise to power.
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@HistoryBuff
yeah the left attacked Barron Trump when he was like 14, so I can see why you think it's ok, I'm not surprised you think it's ok to attack someone's family who has nothing to do with politics.
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@PressF4Respect
yes more freedom is better, our constitution (2a) for example would make something like that improbable, I'd say impossible but I try not to use extremes. Even if the military tried to take over it wouldn't be 100% of the military. So that and the armed populous not to mention some other country would try to move in, I don't see a scenario where it would happen.
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