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Omnipotent, omnipresent etc,Wut?!
Who is starting? I would like to since the BOP is shared.If you're not gunna reach it, then you don't need it. 20k is too much. 4 rounds it is. Of course BOP shared.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I am not assume anything. I'll wait for the police report or not talk about an investigation that is currently going on. I don't have the information nor am I a professional to know what typical things that might occur. Sure I could parrot professionals but I haven't really read up on their work.I don't expect anything. You could however assume what he says is true and join the discussion as a devil's advocate kind of thing, it's up to you.
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@keithprosser
Do you take that position and should we act on it?As each life contains more sadness than happiness it is immoral to create another life, condemed as it is to more pain than pleasure, because the net effect is an increase in sadness and pain in the world.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I understand what you mean. You don't think I do, and I know exactly why you don't think I do, but I do.Hopefully one day you'll understand what I mean.
I hope I do but I can't say for sure.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Didn't really disagree with that apart from this:
"Every day it gets a little easier.But you gotta do it every day - that’s the hard part.But it does get easier."
I would say that is false.
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@PolytheistWitch
Good luck .
Thanks. Good luck on whatever you are going through as well.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Maybe a month or two would help?
I would have actually wait until Thursday to see what he says before I can decide what would help in a given time frame.
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I am pretty sure it would be illegal to fire you for your health issues, but maybe it would be good to look for other work.
Wouldn't know.
If you don't mind me asking, what are these health issues?
Don't want to say.
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@RoderickSpode
But what other standard do you have in giving consistent results on what is going on outside our realm?As I said, science doesn't deal outside of our natural realm. So I wouldn't expect it to reveal who or which creator it is.
What I mean is, why are you, for the sake of the topic of this thread, able to assume a creator, which you stated doesn't exist, but not the creator referred to in the Bible?
Alright fine. God exists how is it the Biblical one?
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@Mopac
I can't. They are not really going to take that seriously and would fire in order to get the help they need.A doctor's note wouldn't hurt. You might not need to get a full appointment to get one either.
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I'll wait after I have completed the appointment with him. After that I would know what actually happen.I don't know if you do therapy but a counselor might help you too with anxiety.
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@Mopac
Okay.So that is my advice. I hope that one day, when you realize that maybe you don't have it all figured out, you remember what I told you and consider that maybe you didn't really have that all figured out like you thought either.
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@Polytheist-Witch
So the main problem is being sick and missing work. Is your dr in a hospital or office?
Office.
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@Mopac
Don't give up, you are still young. Go to an Orthodox Church. Talk to the priest. Ask him for books. Tell him how you struggle with belief, and then be honest about why. Don't give up.The answer you are really looking for is there. The church is a hospital.
It won't help. I have already come to that conclusion and everything new I hear reinforces it.
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@Mopac
Okay.You never knew Christ, and your spiritual discipline was done in ignorance rendering it vain.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Melatonin is the substance you body makes to help you sleep. It shuts your brain off. It's not a drug nor is it addictive. You can get it over the counter and basically take it 20 minutes before you want to sleep. Once you take it, you lay down and relax as best you can. Not getting up and not doing last minute stuff. I find it very effective.
I'll ask my doctor on Thursday.
You mentioned class. I assumed you mean school can you do some classes online at night when awake.
I don't currently go but in that time frame I did go.
Would a job with different hours help? Some people are naturally night owls. My husband quit trying to work days and now just works nights. He does better cause he works in his sleep cycle. Is that an option.
I am working 6pm till 12am. That was the only time I could work due to when they need me.
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@RoderickSpode
So even if I say yes you don't have it?I wasn't offering anything. I was asking you a yes or no question.
So now we moved from prove the existence of God to prove the Bible is trustworthy.If you can assume God exists, why can't you assume the God of the Bible?Unless the subject of this thread is now prove the Bible is trustworthy.
Since you are speaking about the Biblical God it would require the Bible to be factual.
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@Mopac
Tried before. Didn't work which is why I am what I am now.You are not going to find God through external reasonings. Only through spiritual discipline.
And there is a real joy that comes from Christ, a joy that nothing in creation can even touch. It is not a matter of choosing between the truth and happiness. Quite the contrary, those who receive not the love of truth are cursed with strong delusion, delusion that leads to suffering and hell. It is only The Truth, and abiding in the Truth that one can have true joy.
That joy was never found for me.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Have you tried prescription medication?
Doesn't work.
melatonin?
No.
Have you tried mediation, warm milk, hot shower, exercise?
Meditation right? It doesn't work. Helps anxiety for the short-term but doesn't help with sleep.
Have tried warm milk, hot shower, exercise and they don't work.
Can you get the same education online and work when awake?
Don't know what you mean here.
Can you work different hours when you are awake?
No those are the times they need me the most.
But it's not my job to help so take it or leave it.
Okay.
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@Mopac
It might help to get a doctors note.If your doctor isn't doing anything but chucking pills at you, it might be a good idea to get a new doctor.
But then I would have to wait on another list. That d*ck must have either put me really low on the list or completely forgot to put me in.
Really, God helps. Find God.
Didn't help me when I needed him the most. So f*ck him. Why do you think I was an atheist? Because I just wanted to rebel? No. I became an atheist when I didn't get an answer. When I waited long enough I saw YouTube videos online pretty much making it clear what I had thought already. God didn't exist or doesn't have an impact in our world because it didn't answer me. I would say on one hand it was a good thing I was in a bad state due to the realizations I found about reality but in another I would be in a good state while being a Religious person. So basically I would have to pick being happy or being right. Of course I didn't get to pick instead was handed the cards I was given. If I had to pick again maybe I would pick being happy in the hopes I do come to the realizations I came when I wasn't. If you don't have happiness in life then what is the point of existing? I have been wondering that for a while and still have yet to find a single good answer.
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I keep messing up.
I try to do things at the best of my ability but what I am left with is my failing. This might be me over-emphasizing problems or maybe are actual problems which I am not doing a good job overcoming. This is very general so I will apply it to a context not the same but close enough.
I go to work. I have taken 2 days off from 4 due to illness. My employer I think thinks I am lying and has reminded me this looks bad on me and how much they needed me as well. Of course I have an illness used the medication and still I have the illness. I have a doctor's appointment on Thursday to vent my frustrations out at him but it does seem apparent that my doctor is a f*cking dick. For one I am sure the f*cking medication doesn't work because of a more important problem he hasn't addressed. I have brought it up before and pretty much told me to wait and I waited. Every single Summer the problem exacerbates because of the more important issues comes in the way of the medication. He knows this but still hasn't done anything. Guess how many Summers including this one I had to deal with this sh*t? 5-7. That is not even including how difficult it is for me to sleep and he knows because he made me aware of the problem. He knew I had difficulty sleeping and still he hasn't done anything about it. This is implied because it doesn't take 7 f*ckin years to book me in for an operation and find the necessary staff to make it happen yet here I am the problem is still not fixed and other problem just pile due to the foundational problem.
I think this also impacted me mentally given the time frame 12-19 or 13-19 or 14-19. Time frame matters because this is almost the full window of puberty. I don't know how much of an impact this problem had given the transition period I was in because I was a teenager relying on my doctor to know what was good for me. Mentally in another way due to my sleep. It takes me at least 2 hours to sleep. I start at 12 and eventually go to sleep at 2. This would mean if I start school at 8 would mean I had only 6 hours of sleep before school. Playing video games can also be the problem but if I was able to sleep at 12 then I would have had 2 hours extra to sleep per day. Since I don't think I need to tell people how important sleep is I'll leave it at that.
Any tips?
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@Stephen
Islam. I don't like Islam.
Your very first comment on this was about Muslims sending hate mail:
Coming to a town near you.Cafe in Bradford receives hate mail for calling itself Greedy PigsI have told you many times now prosser , once muslims become a large community, it is then they start demanding that YOU change YOUR ways. I noticed this letter is signed of "the community" and not the Islamic Community, I wonder why that is?
Where was the comment about Islam again?
Not once in your entire response did you even mention the word Islam. You instead talk about the followers of the Religion as if that is the problem when we both know Islam is like how Christianity is the problem not Christians.
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@keithprosser
I'm glad it's not just me that gets that impression!
I Kind of had a bad approach but it is still true. He dislike Muslims when he should be disliking Islam. People can change. A scripture cannot. If Religion becomes less of a thing in people who are Muslims then they tend to be less violent. This can clearly be seen with Christianity. When people do not have Religion taking up most of their time they tend less to delve deep into it.
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@keithprosser
Why not tell me what it is you want to happen?
From what I am gathering is that he doesn't like Muslims therefore they should leave.
He is afraid of demographic changes and thinks of it like a takeover since his picture of a British citizen is going to be a lot different if this carries on. Probably he is white and since he has biases that he doesn't like brown people due to some reasonable criticism not specifically about brown people and some exaggeration of what is going on. It is not a takeover more so what happens. Declining birth rates of whites leads to less whites. Increasing birth rates results in more browns lead to more brown people. Done. Takeover implies it is done without the consent of people even though I haven't heard of how mosques are created without the government knowing or when other Religious institutions are built they are done without the approval of the government laws.
My take-away from the reactionary Stephen.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Why not post the police report instead of a second hand opinion if he wasn't there that is?
If there isn't a police report I much rather have an actual news source telling me the news not some random guy with a YouTube channel.
To expect me to have a logical argument when your source isn't credible for the facts is really stupid.
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It looks nice and I used it in a game I think.
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@Ramshutu
Short fire way of being a fence sitter. Instead of actually committing to one idea you don't and run into of the problem with both sides getting annoyed.and thus being hated on by both sides of it.
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@Barney
Could the negative become a positive?I'd say it defaults to a negative, but is not assured to be immoral (that depends on the motivations of the parents).
Should we create life?
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@RoderickSpode
If a qualifed scientist submitted an article for peer review that gave evidence of not just God's existence, but specifically the Biblical God, would you become a Christian?
Okay. Lets see what you come up with.
So, if you can add assuming the God of the Bible communicates to individuals, then hopefully you can see why the Bible is strongly considered.
That can't be assumed. It has to be proven.
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@bsh1
Shown no sign of improvement while repeating similar harassment. You have such a lenient bar to ban someone.
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@Yassine
Is this to say: God, as defined in the Quran, exists? Or: God exists & the Quran confirms it?
Tell me the labels you have for God that are in the Qur'an then I'll say what I'll accept.
30k is too much, no one has the time through a 60k character round! 20k tops. & how many rounds?
30k is the maximum not what we both be reaching. It is there just in case if we need it. You decide on the Rounds. More than 3 less than 5.
Who has the burden of proof?
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@Barney
Do you consider the act of bringing a life into the world as immoral or a negative?Long story short, people should ensure they can assure their children a good life before having any.
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@Club
If you are a homosexual then have sex with the same sex. If you are not do that. I thought you were unhappy I didn't include gays or something.So the meaning of life is to be homosexual?
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Basically your stances on it.
Here is the definition:
Antinatalism, or anti-natalism, is a philosophical position that assigns a negative value to birth. Antinatalists argue that people should abstain from procreation because it is morally bad (some also recognize the procreation of other sentient beings as morally bad).
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@WyseGui
Thanks it is not difficult to outsmart Mopac. Just have him talk about what he believes and he traps himself. All I do is point it out. If you know what to look for it is easy.
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Neognosticism is in an upswing because we have a generation of know it alls. Very attractive to those who think they know better.One of the oldest recognized heresies.
Wow God is a heretic by that logic. I await for the special pleading fallacy, ad-hominem/name-calling or no comment.
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@David
@bsh1
When is this unrelenting harassment train going to be stopped permanently?
I can't think witch has more fuel left.
Basically called Club a "sock puppet" and said to me " fuck off". Sure you can get annoyed about what I said to witch but I do not target her consistently. Witch goes out of her way to target me and even when I don't give her attention she still carries on. Here is proof of a topic I created where she couldn't help herself?
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@Club
Alright fine then. Get f*cked. Be engaged with someone of the same sex and maybe adopt. Done.
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@Ramshutu
The universe is only depressing if you had an over inflated idea of your place in it.
Yeah sure. Doesn't make it less difficult to move from that into reality while still being happy with it.
the sheer amazing ness of what we lump of matters are figuring out should make you feel good ;)
Not really so I can't spend my time jerking off to a scientist speaking. Motivational and learning new things videos have lost their charm on me.
What ultimately made it unsuccessful was an exceptional local hospital and my inadequate knowledge of pharmacology.
Did you have some sort of emotion afterwards that gave you more happiness that it would get better or are you still the same person just not willing to die?
Humans have always, always been dumb. The entire history of humanity has been a list of humans believing in insane shit, realizing it, and then improving themselves and the world until the next set of dumb sh*t comes along. It’s sad, but anti-vaxx is going to last right up until the next major pandemic.
Sad really. It is also sad that it could have been yourself in a different scenario.
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@Club
Maximize happiness.What's the meaning of life
So basically get off DA and politics. F*ck a lot. Do drugs and die young. Done.
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@mustardness
I guess the big bang.Thanks. Do you know why Universe exists?
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@mustardness
OMar, do you know the mechansim that has the electron mass always repeating itself ---0.511 electron volts mass--- at approximately 207 times itself, as the muon-electron and not at 46 or 155 electron volts?
No I don't.
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@RoderickSpode
Again, this is an avenue for some to conclude God is good. You're not looking for proof of God's existence, but asking why some consider (or assume) God is good, right?
If I assume God exists. I am not assuming the Biblical God exists which means you still need to tell me how the Bible is a trusted source.
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@RoderickSpode
there are numerous texts in the Bible that indicate that God is love, which would make him good, likeJeremiah 31:3 (NLT) - Long ago the Lord said to Israel: “I have loved you, my people, with an everlasting love. With unfailing love I have drawn you tomyself."Romans 5:8 (NIV) - But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.Also, combining this avenue of consideration with day to day living, experiencing loving, being loved, us being made in God's image (per the Bible consideration), it's logical to conclude God is love, thus God is good.
This is under the assumption God is good, God exists by the Bible being a trusted source?
Can you tell me why I should trust what the Bible says?
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No one cares.
I can't believe you haven't been permanently banned. You are actual trash for the harassment you do on this site.
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@bsh1
Was it due to spam?He is temp-banned and will return soon.
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@Outplayz
Okay.That's good no drugs. Weed just heightens how i feel.. i noticed i feel bad watching politics high for the most part. In your case, idk. I think politics is depressing personally. I'm sure not everyone agrees with me, but it seems you might. I guess being aware that's just how things are makes it better... but not really. Moderation seems to be key for me.
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