TheRealNihilist

As I recall, I was just answering your question, if that makes sense. 

No, I did not, and I do not believe it needs to be justified to not be vegan.

Hopefully I'm not coming across disrespectfully.  I'm just not interested in discussing Pro-Life personally, as it doesn't pertain to veganism.  

I am not a vegan.

I do not recognize a carrot's right to life, arbitrary happenstance.  

I edited my previous post and with that said are you really expecting me to post something that says because of TDS in it?

Your link does not say the existence of TDS more so makes the claim the democrats were wrong therefore they have TDS.

https://psmag.com/news/did-trump-just-prove-theres-a-crisis-on-the-border

How many more instances would you like me to post that shows he is right about what he is saying? I can go on and on

The opinions of Trumps policies before they were implemented are just that opinions based on TDS the results of Trumps policies after they have been implemented are fact proving the TDS opinions to be that of TDS

Why would I be Pro-Life for a sponge or an amoeba?  I'm just not.

I am just "for pro-life" for humans.

I find that tedious, boring and ultimately only serves to deflect away from the topic. 

Uh, what do you want me to say?  I am just pro-life for humans?

Can you name me an instance where Trump is correct but since they have "TDS" they are unable to tell the truth?

Such forms of highly emotional reaction could be something akin to the fainting and screaming characterizing American Beatlemania in the 1960s. Unlike the Beatles however, the extreme emotional reaction alleged to characterize TDS is not based on adoration and admiration, but on fear and loathing." 

Do you think the people who have negative feelings about Donald Trump lying about what they are truly feeling or genuinely think this way?

If genuine is it bad to view Trump that way? 

Your responses about the economy have been proven to be false. Obama has nothing to do with it. You wish he did but cant possibly show that any actions he took as president made it better under Trump.

Yet you cling to that like Christians cling to their guns.

The lowering of taxes are responsible for reduced unemployment, greater GDP and increased tax revenues. 

That kind of spending should have ended poverty as we know it and built a house for every man woman and child in this country. 

Where did all that money go? You gonna tell me Trump stole it?

Yes you do have TDS.

The funny part is he has zero effect on your life, maybe that's the part you hate, not being able to blame someone else for your lot in life and having to look in the mirror and blame that person. 

As far as Trump being a failure at Business, He has started and sold 515 businesses with a 96% success rate. All big business loses money a billion dollars is a drop in the bucket over ten years.

https://www.citizensgroup.us/is-donald-trump-a-successful-businessman/

What most people that never built a business don’t realize, is that you must fail your way to the top.

So, I'm still not relating to the question. 

 It will have to die sooner or later, and it would be unnecessarily painful not to swiftly dispatch a critter before you start preparing it. 

Are you not listening?

"Science however, in my opinion, will figure it out one day"

Are you not listening? 

Are you not listening? 

"Evidence is currently anecdotal" 

Are you not listening? The explanation part i currently don't have a desire to get into with you. 

Lol. 

This conversation, again not listening on your part, isn't about proof.

It's about rationalizing far out future, beyond this reality, possibilities from what we currently know.

It is not irrational to suspect a metaphysical truth

I disagree with anyone under the spiritual banner that says they have figured out the truth unless they can prove it. 

Disprove spirituality for me please. 

i don't agree. If you look at both from your pov, they're rational bc it's your experience.

It gets irrational when you assume i look at it the same as you do and somehow i'm proven wrong bc i can't prove that to you. 

I am generally inclined towards Pro-Life.

I think everyone should kill an animal for food once in their life, and feel a full respect for its will to live, among other things.

Its the way I write things down, usually rather quickly as a brief distraction from the day or something like that.  You can just reply a little slower and you won't have issues in general, not just from me.  

My family has had a dog put down too.  It was crippled and had been living for years with cancer or something.  Have you ever heard of the story "old yeller"?

Nah, that's friendship.  Its not the same.

For one its generally not our place.  I am generally inclined towards Pro-Life.

Animals have no established social contract with humans for one.

 I think everyone should kill an animal for food once in their life, and feel a full respect for its will to live.

Why can't you leave a comment when you have done adding the message? Why do you have to upload the comment then update it afterwards? You have done this consistently for it not to be a problem and it is a problem for me when I had to add another thing I had to respond to. It is not even fixing errors in your writing. It is that you missed out information that was given to me prior. 

Not really, no. 

I think we should try to get along with one another, and view eating humans distastefully.

What is the difference between an animal and human?

Regulating diet sounds totalitarian.  I was saying that it's a cultural thing in "developed" countries, not a problem of abundance.

What are you referring to, and what side am I on in your view?

Pay for your own birth control.  It's not that expensive.  You can buy 6 condoms for $5. 

If you can't afford birth control, don't have sex.  It's easy. 

I've been a virgin my whole life.

ASTAP enables helping people by discouraging bad things.  They aren't big taxes either for the most part.

If there were citations to the graph you would ask what are the citation's citations.  For some reason, you ask for links and when I provide links, you want links to those links.  If I gave you those, you would ask for more, etc.  

Here is a citation approved by the CDC: https://public.tableau.com/profile/tina.norris#!/vizhome/FIGURE8_1/Dashboard8_1

They can get insurance.

I don't believe that the government should subsidize any private company.  If this is trickle down economics, then no.

The person said that the top 10% of drinkers drink 74 beers a week.

I imagine rich people are disproportionally more likely to be practicing alcoholics because they can afford it.  

At the food shelf I volunteer at people tend to be a bit more plump then average.  

I don't internalize it, but yeah.

What is the difference between an animal and human?

Are you for human violence? 

If you get your meat in a natural way, like hunting, or maybe locally raising animals, than you don't have to depend so much on the displacement of native habitat, which is an issue of serious consideration in our time with human populations reaching unprecedented levels.

I don't internalize it, but yeah.

Thats called limited free will ex ...'an airplane pilot has limited amount abilities to will a plane headed toward earth in death spiral dive.'...B Fuller

The less experience of the pilot then the inherent less degrees-of-freedom { options } available to the pilot.

Uncertainty does not neccessitate chaos nor does in validate random disorder i.e. there can only exist order of Universe.

The lack of order is only humans inability to find that order.

I'm not talking about animal torture.  

I have mentioned that I take no issue with killing animals.

If you don't want to get shot, arm yourself because the criminal will always have a weapon.

The people are insured.  ASTAP shows how they can get insurance paid for with a minimum wage job.

I don't know why you always want evidence, but the smoking rate is below:

http://media.beam.usnews.com/25/8d/0748ab4941499643d17c697a4149/151112-smokingrates-graphic.png

They filed for bankruptcy which means they don't have enough money. This is clearly not a point against people who can't for medical issues since that was the cause of bankruptcy. 

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So you are for abolishing taxing income?

Yes.

It was based off of some research.  I know that it's about 10 drinks a day per person that is in the drunkest tenth of the US population.

when others are talking about meat, cows, mammals, and other animals.  I would appreciate keeping to the topic of veganism, if you can tie things in with that.

Vegans are merciless towards to the plant kingdom, and fungi are the scum between their toes.

Neither does preaching for alternative energy.  My house actually has solar panels.  It works pretty well; $100 gets saved every month.  I'm not telling other people to get panels though.

It works on a small scale, and it means that you wouldn't be a hypocrite.

Getting this whole nation to go solar costs trillions of dollars when factoring in the panels, the batteries, and the transport of the electricity.  Given that climate change will only cost humans about $1 trillion, I would rather wait until the technology for solar power gets better for humans to use something like solar.

This is off topic, so I shouldn't respond to this.  If you want to have a gun debate on a forum, make a forum about it.  This forum is about ASTAP.

They file for bankruptcy for surgeries other then STD treatment.  I imagine to treat an STD, you just have to take some pills, although I might be wrong on this.

The government does something similar with tobacco yet less people smoke.

If alcohol is treated like tobacco, less people would want to drink.  The tax loss would be gradual and can be added on to the adult tax when it happens.

Not all medical issues are expensive.  I don't know how expensive it is to treat an STD, but if they don't get treated, then eventually every human will have ever STD and humanity would suffer on such a basis.

Not on the basis of income, but on the basis of "sins".  If there is a sin tax that rich people are more likely to indulge in, that is tecnecally a tax on the rich, but not because they are rich.

The typical alcoholic drinks like 10 beers a day, so that would cost about $20 a day from that alone.  How can poor people afford that with all their other expenses?

https://slate.com/technology/2014/10/how-much-alcohol-do-americans-drink-consumption-predicts-alcoholism-and-death-rates.html

If you want to fix the environment, get solar panels.

Such forms of highly emotional reaction could be something akin to the fainting and screaming characterizing American Beatlemania in the 1960s. Unlike the Beatles however, the extreme emotional reaction alleged to characterize TDS is not based on adoration and admiration, but on fear and loathing." 

Bioshock 1

Deadrising

TF2

Fallout 1

Persona 5

If you don't want kids, don't have sex.

Then they save up to get treatment.  I imagine it's very cheap compared to $200/year.

Are you on assumption that people just have STD's just because of some sick joke?

To an extent, yes. 

There also will be people that quit alcohol consumption due to the taxes.  It's not a big tax either.

Those are for surgeries that are very expensive.  Just getting an STD treated I imagine costs very little money.  Once STDs are eradicated, then humanity can enjoy sex more since there is less incentive to enforce abstinence.

I imagine rich people are disproportionally more likely to be practicing alcoholics because they can afford it.  

The typical alcoholic drinks like 10 beers a day, so that would cost about $20 a day from that alone.  How can poor people afford that with all their other expenses?

I have evidence. You keep saying no evidence.

"Scientists" don't know how to find spiritual evidence through the scientific method. 

Therefore, i don't have a scientific way of providing evidence... but, if i have experienced object manipulation, strong premonitions, etc. all of them consistent and that have repeated throughout my life... then i have evidence.

You're the one being irrational assuming you know 7 billion people plus, plus... don't have any evidence. How do you know? It's the height of arrogance for you to think our present day methods and knowledge is far enough to provide "you" proof (hard evidence).

If you can't get beyond this fact... you are both irrational and narrow-minded. There's nothing else i can do... you are what you are. Continues proving me right about the movie angle, i don't care how far you can push yourself beyond that. 

Can you not answer this? Everything else i wrote you are throwing out the window... when i have used my experiences, observations and attained knowledge to come up with rational explanations... you throw them out the window (on top of all the other frivolous talking points). What makes you rational? Do you even know?

I don't think the government should be paying for it.

If people are taxed for having an STD, they would want treatment more in order to avoid paying the tax.

There should be an exception for non treatable STDs, but spreading those by having sex should be more punishable.  I think people can afford treatment.

If that happens, then it's a reliable source of income.

Besides, aren't rich people more likely to be addicted to alcohol, so it's basically a tax on them for the most part. 

Poor people can't afford to get drunk.

I want to see any evidence you have that taxation encourages a condition you laid out.

If you punish (insert behavior), you get less of it.

I do have a rape tax because rape is evil. 

I have an unintended pregnancy tax to discourage people from having premarital sex.

I have an STD tax to encourage more people to get their STDs treated.

Alcohol should be discouraged with a tax

The adultery tax is supposed to discourage non consenting adultery.  Adultery breaks families apart.

To say that you provide "the highest standards of integrity, fairness, and consistency possible" is laughable.

Moderation always tries to achieve the highest standards of integrity, fairness, and consistency possible.

I could have sent it privately, but since the mods were asking for feedback, I figured I could tell them this way.  Most of my votes were tie votes, which the mods say don't need a RFD.

No.

Yes you most definitly correct with you rational, logical common sense reply to D-Pirate{?} regarding violent sports.  Humans consent to beating on each other in sports. If its to hot get out of the kitchen.  Other animals do not consent violence on each other as in sport.

Fuller talks about how were breeding { evolving } the next level of non-thinking humans via boxers who beat each others thinking brain to a pulp. Then there is all the money and kind of thinking behind this stupidity.